Trump Ends Obama's War in Syria
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Trump Ends Obama's War in Syria
President Trump defied and shocked the political Establishment by announcing that The United States would end Military operations in Syria and be our pulling troops out of that Country.
The Syria War was started under the (corrupt) Obama administration with Globalist Neocon-Warmongers like John Brennan (CIA), Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Lindsey Graham all directly involved in hatching the policy of selling weapons to ISIS and arming Terrorists (using U.S. Taxpayer money) in order to illegally and violently overthrow the Government of President Bashar al-Assad. Their goal was to perpetrate Regime Change (Coup d'Etat) with Geo-political motivations involving permitting a Gas Pipeline to be built through that Country (so that Europe could be less reliant on Russia for Gas). By building up and arming ISIS, they created chaos, plunder, and massive human suffering -- (as with all Globalist-Neocon hatched Warfare policies).
President Trump changed the mission to instead fight against and drive out ISIS, and return stability to the region as part of an overall plan to bring an end to the War and bring the troops home. With this announcement, the U.S. War against Syria is over, and also proves the point (for those that were skeptical) that Trump was never a part of the Globalist "Regime Change" Neocon cable (unlike Clinton, Obama, and the political Establishments of both political parties).
History will now show that the illegal Regime Change policy was reversed, the Government of President Bashar al-Assad was left in power, and the Syrian War did not become yet another permanent Foreign U.S. Occupation and endless entanglement (as originally designed).
First Announcements:
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First announcement before MSNBC started to massively spin it into a negative.
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The Establishment Freaks Out:
It is moments like this when we get to see who is the part of the criminal class in Washington, and who are the few "good guys".
People like Tim Kaine (Hillary's running mate), Sen Lindsey Graham, Mark Rubio, and most all of Congress are all howling about the decision. Even more instructive is that almost all of the Mainstream Media is showing their true colors once again as nothing more than Globalist War Propagandists, and just "Fake News". CNN’s Jake Tapper quoted an "unnamed Pentagon official" (Fake News) calling the end of the war a Russian victory. ...yeah right....
Fortunately there remain a few honest people in Washington who will speak against the absurdity and counter-productivity of this War, and why it needed to end.
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Hawks within the administration will likely oppose the plan. It’s not clear how long it will take for the US to get 2,000 troops out of Syria, and some military officials may drag their heels on the matter, hoping that they can talk the president out of ending the war.
For now, however, there is reason to hope that the American involvement in the war is about to be over. Peace for Christmas.
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Troops coming home!
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Pro-War U.S. News Media is sickening
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Neocons unhappy their Policy was reversed and then stopped.
Epic battle emerging as President Trump aware of covert plans to remove him from office (as they did with President Kennedy).
Nope. They'll just be deployed to wherever else the capitalist
pigs want to destroy next.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
That depends on who is President
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No it doesn't.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Funny....
People who oppose Trump's ending the War in Syria (which no Establishment figure would have ever done), and try to spin it into a negative ... are showing their true colors here.
Funny.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
What the fuck?
Are you again trying to scare someone with that Mccarthyite comment about true colors?
Oh please.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Heh, "does the US want to be the policeman of the middle
There's a tell. That's an outright lie or he's really fucking idiot (sorry for the "foul" language).
Try to figure that out, he knows darn well the reason the US is in the middle east is NOT to be the "policeman", which is also the obfuscation used to justify US imperialism in general. So he's clearly lying here or he truly doesn't understand what the US REALLY has been doing in the middle east, which is possible but I'd have to think not.
I think the author of this essay knows that, (FS - do you really think the US has been in the middle east to act as a policeman") but posting this tweet as evidence of Trump's great decision making while also saying that Trump has "defeated ISIS" and brought stability to the middle east, shows a significant lack of cohesion in thought process regarding US imperialism and the US role in the wars and instability in the middle east and north africa.
The more I look at the cognitive dissonance within Trump's tweets, the more I think the guy is just off his rocker and/or just playing to his base who have the same cognitive dissonance problem.
Apparantly it's okay to play policeman in Yeman
where the US is blocking the UN ceasefire and it's okay to do it in Africa where the US is building one of the largest drone bases. And it's okay to do it in only the military knows how many other countries in the ME it is in. And it's okay to keep the 800-1,000 bases open across the pond.
If Trump does pull the troops out of Syria and reduces them in Afghanistan then I will say that it's a good start. But so much more needs to be done that I know will never happen.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Sorry, but this is utter bullshit and needs to be challenged.
"President Trump changed the mission to instead fight and drive out ISIS, and return stability to the region as part of an overall plan to bring an end to the War and bring the troops home. With this announcement, the U.S. War against Syria is over, and also proves the point (for those that were skeptical) that Trump was never a part of the Globalist "Regime Change" Neocon cable (unlike Clinton, Obama, and the political Establishments of both political parties)."
You've got to be kidding to say he changed the mission to drive out ISIS, everyone knows the US created and maintained ISIS for the regime change mission Trump himself bought off on but failed. Here's a rational take on what's really happening with this announcement which if people say no one saw coming, they simply don't know the score.
Trump might not be totally in sync with some neocons, but his subservience to Israel clearly shows he's on board with the Zionist plan in the middle east and his sucking up to Saudi Arabia because they buy billions of dollars of US weapons clearly shows he's a globalist asshole who would rather kill babies in Yemen than care what happens in Peoria. He doesn't tie his shoes unless Netanyahoo tells him to. He's not a nationalist at all, that's an insult to real nationalists. He's a globalist thru and thru, for himself and only himself and his kids (I'll give him credit for that).
Relative to his "ending the war in Syria" and "bringing stability to the region" good grief. Here's a more rational conclusion on this bullshit about Trump ending the Syria war, which is no different from Bush's "mission accomplished" and Obama's "ending the Iraq war", which btw, globalist Trump is continuing.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/dont-be-fooled-trumps-withdrawal-from-syri...
Trump might not be totally in sync with some neocons, but his subservience to Israel clearly shows he's on board with the Zionist plan in the middle east and his sucking up to Saudi Arabia because they buy billions of dollars of US weapons clearly shows he's a globalist asshole who would rather kill babies in Yemen than care what happens in Peoria. He doesn't tie his shoes unless Netanyahoo tells him to. He's not a nationalist at all, that's an insult to real nationalists. He's a globalist thru and thru, for himself and only himself and his kids (I'll give him credit for that).
Relative to his "ending the war in Syria" and "bringing stability to the region" good grief.
Damn, people are jumping around on this blog right after Trump says something like the fucker has never lied in his life. Not to mention the complete disregarding the overall big picture relative to U.S. imperialism and the absolutely unwavering dedication to ruling the world (which is globalism too btw).
Israel is a client state of the US Empire.
Netenyahu may think of himself as king, but he's not as powerful as folks make him out to be.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Trump's policy was NEVER The Establishment policy
And that is why they are all howling (in opposition) at him.
If you don't know that's a fucking lie,
Fowl Language changes nothing and isn't helping your cause.
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The facts are clear.. and the anti-Trump spin (War propaganda) will fall of its own weight and fade away.
LOL man.
Heh. What will Mr. Trump do about bases,
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
I am so thrilled that that idiot isn't in the WH,
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
As in spam,
Misspelling and awkward language is a tell.
Don't feed the trolls.
I'm [kind of] with Free on this
Sure Trump spun the announcement into something he could politically say. After all, he wasn't about to say, "I decided to stop funding ISIS and besides, the Russian's kicked their ass anyway." Putin didn't argue (heh, no point in arguing when you're winning). So yeah, plenty of spin on the ball, but I'm still content with pulling out.
Now... will that actually happen? Who can know? This is Trump after all. But for now, at least, I'm willing to say that he campaigned on it. He's doing it. Until other data comes to the fore, I'll go with the Occam's razor solution. I'm putting the odds of actual withdrawal from both Syria and Afghanistan at about 10%... maybe 5%... even if Trump wants to.
Finally, if we do pull out, will we just move on to stomp some other country... probably in South America. I'd guess absolutely. The war machine must march on after all and there's plenty of hate for latinos among the Trump base.
Still, I'll take my wins as they come... cautiously for sure... but I'll take them.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
While I appreciate the more cynical speculation of that link
THIS certainly doesn’t ring true:
Per NYT--7,000 troops,
approximately half the troops deployed to Afghanistan--will be pulled/coming home in coming months. It's not just Syria.
Personally, don't trust anything that comes out of this Administration. And, the Syria/Afghanistan pull-outs may, or may not, happen. But, DT did run on getting troops out of the ME.
Initially, I'd say that the Deep State 'managed him' better--at least, before he started weeding out some of them. Certainly, I don't believe it's because he's 'a good guy' that he's calling for this. My impression is that DT is such a major cheapskate, that he views these deployments as "a waste of money." (Not to say they aren't wasteful or immoral.)
My point being, I'm not buying that DT opposes these military deployments based on "humanitarian" grounds, or, because he "cares for" American troops. But, I don't doubt that he's wanting to pull them out. Partly, out of self-interest--since he ran on doing so.
Now, I do think that the MSM hysteria over Mattis' resignation is totally ridiculous. IOW, just more carrying the water for the Deep State, etc.
And, Dem lawmakers are certainly eager to lead the so-called "conversation" on today's events, declaring that we are in very perilous times. Just listen for a few minutes to Cable News--you'd think that the US government had just collapsed, or worse!
For sure, I'll be real curious to see what the so-called 'progressive' lawmakers have to say about all this, since most of the lawmakers that I've heard (today) have been Establishment/corporatist Dems. We'll see some true colors, I suspect.
Blue Onyx
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Remember when Obama said we were leaving Iraq
and all the media coverage of the last battalion driving off into the sunset? The people cheered because he was keeping his campaign promise to end the Iraq war.
Well except that he tried keeping the troops there after the status of forces agreement and then started putting them back into Iraq. But hey it was great at the time wasn't it. Boy what a difference a president makes.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Many actually said “He ended 2 wars & didn’t start any new ones”
when the reality was, the U.S. military was waging open war in two countries when Obama came in, and in at least seven countries when he went out.
I have written those words so many times
that my Ipad will have them ready for me when I go to type them again. It also finishes "he has been the best president since FDR" in the same sentence. I had a good friend over there who said that to me and I of course corrected her after asking WTF?
But people actually do believe that he ended the Iraq war because the troops had to leave. However, he asked Iraq to let them stay after the SOFA was up. Then he just put them back in there without Iraq's permission, but shhh, don't say that there.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
This remains to be seen
Whilst I'm happy to hear about this, I doubt that the MICC will actually allow him to pull all of the troops out. As for the end of regime changes I'm withholding my happiness until Bolton and his ilk are out of the WH and Trump reduces sanctions on Iran. This has been the last country on PNAC's wishlist for as long as 1979 when they overthrew the Shah who we put in power for the oil companies.
BTW. I think the fight against ISIS was really done by Assad and Vlad after McCain and his buddies armed and protected them. Obama had to be shamed into bombing them and their oil trucks making their way into Turkey. Imagine that. Obama was worried about civilian casualties.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Bolton is a guy
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
Troops coming home does not mean the US involvement
and support for the war has ended:
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
I read somewhere
It was at Moon of Alabama which I linked and included in a comment below.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
That is from Haartz
which I am not sure is for real or just satire. One of the articles stated that it was Assad who created ISIS and that he will never have to go to Nuremburg to stand trial for it. Flynn said numerous times that Obama and Kerry did nothing as ISIS gained power because they wanted to use them to overthrow Assad. Nice!
One thing that no one has brought up is that Mattis or Bolton have stated that the military will stay in Iran even after ISIS is defeated to counter Iran. This was a few weeks ago and it's just usual military creep and moving the goal posts for when the US exits a country it illegally invade. On false pretenses.
BTW. Anyone remember if there was a public call for troop withdrawal from Libya as they went over to play in the Syrian sand? You remember after we invade Libya on false pretenses when Hillary said that Gaddaffi had ordered his troops to rape women and was handing out boxes of Viagra?
I just wish there was a much outrage when the military goes into countries as it does when they are pulled out.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
One moment please, fellow c99ers all!
OK, so there's dispute as to whether Donald Trump's demilitarization moves are as advertised (as our Essayist Free Society suggests) or false propaganda (as most of the Commenters prior to this Comment seem to be asserting).
I ask that we all wait a few moments, for the reasons I will elaborate below.
Your humble scribe is in a rare position to evaluate the truth as to whether we're really pulling out of Syria or not: I dwell in a military town whose most populous military base, Fort Carson, Colorado, has many units whose Modes Of Service (MOSs) make those units among the most deployed units in places like Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan.
So my attitude about all this is "wait and see". Distrust and verify. If Trump puts his money and the US military forces in Syria where his mouth is, it will be physically impossible for our local news outlets not to cover it to death. Our local capitalist barons guarantee this; the return of numerous large military units to their home base at Carson means far too many millions of dollars in Colorado Springs' economy for our local news outlets to ignore it. Moreover, loved ones of those soldiers are a major slice of the audience of those same news outlets, translating directly into dollars in their coffers.
I plan on reporting any and all returns of such units to "The Mountain Post".
So, before we get any too hostile with each other on this subject, let's see whether or not the old Great Orange Hairball delivers on his promises. If he doesn't deliver, and fast, we've caught him red-handed in a major lie complete with smoking-gun level direct evidence supplied straight from the man's own mouth! If he does deliver on them, I suspect that the author of The Art of the Deal is trying to deal his way back into the White House in November 2020. We SHALL see.
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Peace to and upon you all.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Yo mon,
Just a heads up, Bro!
Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .
Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .
If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
sign at protest march
I respectfully suggest . . .
Bob Corker says that it's a done deal
"We're moving out."
"Entirely?"
"Yep."
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
Gotta kick out of these headlines
Analysis Despite the Blow to Its National Security, Israel Will Bow to Trump’s Syria Withdrawal
How Assad Helped Create ISIS to Win in Syria and Got Away With the Crime of the Century
Trump's Pullout Leaves Russia Holding the Cards in Syria, to Israel's Bitter Disappointment
This is all I'm able to read without a subscription and I don't think I'm going to waste my money.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
The insane propaganda is so tiresome,
"Obama promised transparency, but Assange is the one who brought it."
TIL (Today I Learned) Israel likes the Kurds
Might be common knowledge to some, but not to me. I thought Bibi didn't like anyone in his great big neighborhood.
so, if the troops withdraw from Syria, doesnt that mean
lots and lots of folks lose their jobs making profits of the war and losing their credibilty?
Isn't that the true reason why those who make a living out of making war in Syria are opposed?
BTW. Bolton might be President, if you don't pay attention. And we will have wwIII.
So, what else is wrong with my thinking?
Can't understand the world anymore. May be that is good.
https://www.euronews.com/live
A suggestion that I got from JPR
Trump is withdrawing the troops from Syria because Turkey has said that they are going to attack the Kurds whether Americans are in the way or not. (the bombing will continue, and that's where the profit is anyway) Maybe he was just saving himself from an ugly situation. Of course, he could take advantage of the next false flag to go back, or he could deploy elsewhere. (Iran? eastern Europe?)
On to Biden since 1973
Posting a comment below about that (n/t)
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Anyone Remember Bush's Gog & Magog Craziness?
Apparently Magog means "of Gog", and Gog is prophesied in the bible to be an area in Russia, part of the Tartarian Empire. Gog will invade Israel to kick of the End of Days.
I was watching some freaky stuff on Tartary and saw Gog on an old map. I did a quick search and the first thing I found was a link that suggested that the Gog might be located in - get this - modern day Turkey.
Just kind of freaked me out a bit. Thought I'd share.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
now that's funny
That sentence may be true, but it's hilarious that you think the Trump Administration isn't infinitely more corrupt, and that John Bolton isn't a much worse warmonger.
You do sabotage your *own* premise by saying “infinitely”
Say “just as corrupt as” and who could disagree with you?
Even “vastly more corrupt than” is at least debatable.
But “infinitely” — in a comment ridiculing someone else’s thinking as lacking balance — is itself ridiculous.
I am in the camp of believing it when it happens, BUT
in the meantime, Moon of Alabama has posted a very interesting analysis of why Trump made the decision to pull out of Syria. I think it is very much worth considering since it seems as though Moon of Alabama has often been on the money with previous statements and analyses on the Middle East.
Although Trump has previously stated that he wanted the US out of Syria and much of the Middle East wars, it appears that his decision came after a very long conversation with Turkish President Erdogan. I am linking a few excerpts from Moon of Alabama's column written on Thursday the 20th.
~Snip~
And finally this.
I hope people here will to the link above and read the entire analysis provided by Moon of Alabama.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Very interesting, thanks.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.