DWS Unwittingly told us the 'Truth', according to the DNC
Debbie Wasserman Schultz "accidentally" told the truth about the purpose of Super-delegates in the Democracy Party -- and it has very little to do with promoting grassroot democracy -- just the opposite actually.
Super-delegates exist to control and diminish grassroot democracy, from ever threatening the Party elite's tenuous hold on power.
And the way the Media constantly confounds (and combines) the unpledged delegates with the pledged delegates in their Democratic "delegate" Totals, it would seem the DNC's "true purpose" for them, is well founded.
Here's the accidental quote from the DNC Chair back in February this year, during 'the pre-game show' to a Democratic Debate, when asked by CNN's Jake Tapper, to explain the idea of "super-delegates" to new voters:
DWS: Unpledged delegates [super-delegates] exist really to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don’t have to be in a position where they are running against grassroots activists. We are, as a Democratic Party, really highlight and emphasize inclusiveness and diversity at our convention, and so we want to give every opportunity to grass-roots activists and diverse committed Democrats to be able to participate, attend and be a delegate at the convention. And so we separate out those unpledged delegates to make sure that there isn’t competition between them.
TAPPER: I’m not sure that that would — that answer would satisfy an anxious young voter, but let’s move on.
Here's a longer version of that exchange:
CNN's Jake Tapper calls out DNC Schultz as she "clarifies" Superdelegates
It seems particularly "separating" {segregating} -- when the corporate media frequently goes to some length to explain that the GOP Unpledged Delegates, are "free to choose" any candidate, even right up to the convention.
Yet they rarely make that same distinction for the Dems Super-delegates -- and bother to explain that they too are "free to choose" any candidate, even right up to the convention. No with Dems, our corporate media lumps in the Unpledged with the Pledged, as if they are so complex in "purpose", the Audience would never be able fathom it. ... Just Look at that Clinton 'Delegate Lead'!
Grudging thanks to Wasserman Schultz however, for helping us out with her "clarifying" remarks. ... Which were never to be repeated by the corporate media again. Ooops!
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That's 100% Right...
SuperDelegates are to circumvent the democratic process in the democratic party to maintain the apartheid rule of the "Establishment" over the majority of the party...
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It's the establishment's
safety valve plan of last resort.
Schultz has said as much.
Just a reminder of what I posted from Dean saying the same thing
a few days ago here on the Daily Show:
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'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Just a small correction
SuperDelegates, closed conventions, caucuses (unlike what we have here), electoral votes, voter ID, (instead of the well tested purple finger), and anybody who says you must chose a political party are against the will and free spirit of the human race to decide with One person, one vote.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
The fix is in.
So, when will the DNC throw her under the bus?
When will we
throw the DNC's rigged rules "under the bus"?
The history of when the Super-D’s were added to the Party apparatus,
had something to do with “Preventing another McGovern”
if I am memorizing it correctly.
Which implies at some point in the Party’ History — this “safety valve”
Did.Not.Exist.
I get it.
But she pretty much gave away the game. The DNC will replace her just keep angry liberals off their backs.
As I was just reminded
Progressive Tim Canova is trying to send here packing.
and she tried her dirty tricks on him as well by attempting
to block him from the FLA voter database. Words I associate with DWS include self-serving Zionist toady who shows up at election time at senior citizen centers to get their names on her absentee ballots.
She succeeded at doing it until he brough enough attention to it
and she backed down. But this was no 'attempt' - she absolutely did it.
Win by any means is the motto share by her and by her leader.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
If it isn't McGovern, it's Nader....
Always the fault of those DFHs.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Yet the Status Quo Insiders
just looove to tell us How Progressive They Are!
Just Trust Them.
Yeah, Right!
Yes, but they're "Progressives who get things done!"
...by which they mean they are anything but progressive, but they sure would like to lay claim to that term which focus-groups so very well with the Dem base!
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Why bother since it was
a one-time leger de bouche? 15 seconds of 'lost in the froth of the tides' never to be repeated.
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are doomed to repeat it ...
The only ones who learn from history
are those who suffer because of it.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Oh We're repeating a lot of things.
It's the nature of Status Quo-ism, innit?
My point was why throw her under the bus when no one but a few pinko commie rat bastards even remember the quote. No, man, she'll get a post on the WH staff or Cabinet slot, or some sort of other payoff. Killery "doesn't even need the Left," so why bother making concessions?
Good read though even if I couldn't bring myself to play the vid.
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That quote should be updated...
...because, "Those won't, can't or refuse to learn from history are condemning the poor to repeat it..."
I want my two dollars!
Yup. I remember seeing that video live and thinking
yea, she is so out of touch she doesn't realize what she just said. Probably the most un-democratic oblivious fingers on the scale statement a party chairman could possibly say. And they want unity? Fuck them.
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I saw it live too.
Had the same reaction too.
Does she even hear herself?
This election has been rigged before Hillary
even 'officially' declared her candidacy.
Remember that she bought those 33 delegates back in 2015.
DWS scheduled the first debate on the Saturday the week before Xmas, opposite football games and other ways that made it harder for people to watch them.
After the disaster of the midterm elections she should have been fired since she put up weak candidates, but that also gave Obama a republican congress and great cover for not being able to get his agenda passed. As if he needed more cover. How many bills did he pre cave on?
And does anyone else think that any other person who was being investigated by the FBI besides Hillary would have been able to be the candidate? I certainly don't.
If we survive her presidency, people will look back at it and wonder how so many people could have been fooled to vote for her.
Remember the Time magazine cover after Bush won reelection?
It asked how could 59 million people be so stupid?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
I agree wholeheartedly in principle...
but your calendar is a bit off.
Yes, the collusion between HVF / DNC /State Parties - Super D's was in August 2015.
Hillary got into the race officially in early April 2015 is my recollection (Bernie made the first announcement I heard on 4/29 and then I think he 'officially' entered the race in May, but I think of his getting in on 4/29).
The first Republican debate was in August 2015, by which time the DNC had not yet even ANNOUNCED when ours would begin. Ours did begin in mid-October (after TWO MONTHS of the Repubs having 24/7 center state media coverage with our party absolutely absent). My recollection is that the December Debate was the 4th debate, but I think there was also an MSNBC town hall which DWS allowed specifically because it was not a DEBATE.
Debbie Wassername was saying initially that we were not doing debates because then the American peeps would see how batshit crazy (I believe that's a direct quote... or, er, it was pretty close) the Republicans all are, which would drive the overwhelming hoards of voters to tick the box for HRC (because Democrats and independents have a long, time-honored history of showing up to vote AGAINST someone in her world, or something)
Clearly, she's not so fond of the pesky inclusiveness of our big tent or whatever, and she has not been convinced people will be motivated to show up to vote for Hillary based on what she's selling if our best strategy is to collect the dregs of those offended by the other side. Showing our own wares was distinctly NOT part of her plan for warming up for the primary. This still appears abjectly anti-democratic (as well as anti-Democratic) to me.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
And in 2014 a Hillary supporter's daughter paid the clerk at
the BOE who was implicated in the NYC voter disenfranchisement (that affected my kid) $6.6 million for a dilapidated property in Manhattan on which she owed thousands of dollars in fines and apparently had no interest in selling up to that point (or no interested buyers). The mother ran for Senator of NY at the same time as Hillary and pulled out to give her the seat. The clerk apparently has a history of working the system to her advantage http://nypost.com/2016/04/21/board-of-elections-official-scapegoated-for....
The challenger has to win by a knockout
We always knew this.
Soooo, the message from the msm
when they insist on counting in the superdelegates in large part is to the "superdelegates" to stay in line? "Hillary is counting on you." Probably be harder for them to switch after dumping Shil for Obama last time around...guilty consciences and all.
I always thought (and might have heard) that the "superdelegates were put in after McCarthy almost won the nomination in 1968. They were introduced first in 1972 to see if the Party could avoid the spectacle of a snow white dove representing them against Tricky Dick. In '68, Humphrey was inserted to prevent McCarthy (say, maybe THAT's the McCarthy Barney Frank is referring to?) even though Humphrey hadn't run in any primaries and McCarthy won the popular primary vote. The rioting in the streets of Chi-town in '68 was a major embarrassment for the establishment as one might imagine. They NEVER wanted anything like that again. DWS spoke the truth...unwittingly, I am sure.
“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire
Barney Frank: more annoying than heavy traffic on the Mass Pike.
When did he make the transition from liberal Congressman to full-on Masshole?
Has he been hanging out in Southie for too long?
Seems to me he was already this way by early in this Admin
I had thought that this behavior had started when he became a board member for a big bank, but that was actually just last year. http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/06/17/barney-frank-yes-that-barney-f...
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
What the hell?
"They don’t get involved with exotic derivatives and credit default swaps." Until enough people l on the board decides it's time to get involved in exotic derivatives and credit default swaps.
Also, watching him debate people is funny. He gets humorously bent out of shape when anyone starts to talk over him, and angrily demands that he be allowed to finish uninterrupted. I wonder what he thought about Hillary's debate performance during that one debate where she attempted to filibuster her way through it.
I'm sure he applauded her talking over so bizarrely...
Most people are entirely blind to their hypocrisy (I'm sure I am). He, for sure, is full of crap.
I remember really admiring him - a close friend of mine knew him decades ago, and although he was already a public figure, I thought of him as 'one of us.' He's totally disabused me of THAT thinking.
'What we are left with is an agency mandated to ensure transparency and disclosure that is actually working to keep the public in the dark' - Ann M. Ravel, former FEC member
Ignore this post.
Just this one that you're reading, not the one above this one.
And dailykos continues to work for DLC/DNC
Hillary changes her words but the billionaires know what she will do, just like Obama
Swimming with Loan Sharks
Tim Canova is running against her in the Dem primary, and she is freaking out because he is raising as much money Bernie-style as she is from such proud Progressive institutions as the Payday Loan industry. Send him a few bucks if you have them and maybe we can get rid of this nasty piece of work.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
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I sent a donation :)
We need to get some actual progressives into Congress, and I'd give a lot more to unseat DWS if I had it to give!
Oh what are all you progressives whining about?
Don't you understand that something as precious as "self rule by the people" just can't be entrusted to the people!?!
I mean it's one of those self-evident truths isn't it?
21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.
My hope is that DWS
gets on the podium to speak at the convention, and she's not just BOOed off the podium, but pelted wth unmentionables. I'd like to see signs like "Let's run Washerwoman-Schlitz out of the building in tar and feathers on a rail!"
I utterly detest the bitch and the whore and hubs the bitch and her moneid pals have used to detroy my party. Gods all damn all them to hell. They're oligarchs and there's no room on the planet for them or their lifestyles any more.
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