New Hillary Supporter Talking Point: "Bernie's supporters just wanted to drag the rest of us down the SJW rabbit hole."
This talking point comes via a youtube comment exchange with a Clinton supporter who believed the lie that 25 percent of Sanders supporters would have voted for Trump in the general if Bernie won the primary. What is it with Hillary supporters and identity politics? They accuse us of using all that and acting like 'special little snowflakes' when the Clinton campaign did it themselves over and over and over again. "Bernie can't get the black vote." "Bernie doesn't get Latinos." "White States." "White privilege because we can't survive with Trump." "Special little snowflakes just want free shit." And so on. Wanna know what's worse? The guy who screamed about SJWs (Social Justice Warriors, made quite popular by the 20-something gamergate crowd), which is used by wingnut gamers and other internet trolls to shut down any and all conversation, claimed to be 'centrist (Read: Right-wing apologist)'.
Seriously. I don't think any of these assholes will ever be happy until we all just disappear and let them finish wrecking what's left of the planet already. Barring that, identity politics have played a HUGE part in the schtick of Clinton and her supporters. Some will just vote for her for the sake of having the first US woman president, and that's just as shitty as Republicans voting for Romney because he's a white guy back in 2012. Kos and his minions at the Great Orange Shitcan did the same thing before and after declaring the Ides of March when he said 'You can't win without forming coalitions with minorities blah blah blah' and more stupid lectures about us being 'out of touch', 'selfish' and anything else that could be thrown at us.
It get's worse on youtube, though. All many supporters have over there is 'because Republicans' and 'Stopping trade agreements won't stop automation'.
So instead of trying again and again to argue with Clinton supporters on youtube who are pissing their pants over her meat puppet boogeyman, Donald Trump, I've deleted my account instead. Whelp. That's three websites I've decided to leave behind.
As far as I'm concerned, these morons are more than welcome to keep whining and pissing their pants over Hillary's manufactured boogeyman. I refuse to play along.
And just one more thing: Desiring to elect someone who actually wants to set America's priorities straight is not 'jumping down the SJW rabbit hole'. It's good self-governance.
I'm sick of this shit.
See ya around,
Aspie
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"It gets worse on YouTube"
I think you could have stopped there!
And as for "Stopping trade agreements won't stop automation", well,yeah, but as I have argued elsewhere , the first things to be automated are going to be neoliberal knowledge work jobs - you know, the kind of jobs the Hillbots all have? So backing a woman who is so totally clueless about this trend is essentially suicidal.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
That's happening at a rapid pace with IT is it not?
If so then that would explain why I can't get hired...well, besides the disabilities and license thing.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Automation is a distraction. The real danger of the TPP
is that corporations will be able to sue the government if things like environmental regulations interfere with their profits. Corporate power can overrule the will of the people.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Endgame for climate change according to environmental scientists
from what I've heard. And yeah, the corporate tribunals would put the world at the mercy of corporate power for sure. Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises and Murray Rothbard would be proud.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I don't see this as a big
I don't see this as a big problem, simply because the people's will has no force as it is. The government we have already doesn't do what we want. And any movement capable of overriding a neoliberal government is just as capable of negating corporate sovereignty.
There will be legal precedent if/when the SCOTUS OKs TPP
You can't overrule the Supreme Court in this country of law unless you overthrow the government.
Ironically, the biggest downside of voting Hill is trumpeted (pun intended) as a strength by her deluded supporters.
This isn't a country of law.
This isn't a country of law. Comey and the DoJ made that clear.
The composition of the Supreme Court is set by Congress, not the Constitution. If we wanted we could appoint another ten justices and render the existing nine irrelevent.
We could also simply abandon the agreement. Who's going to enforce it against the US? We're the 800-pound gorilla.
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Yes you can: Constitutional amendment.
Not saying it's easy!
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Exactly.
Big business was tired of having lobbyists bribe state and federal legislators. Big business would rather just govern us directly. Who can blame them for that?
And Obama not only agreed, but wanted it fast tracked!
I've been using the unsubscribe link a lot lately
The latest was Credo Mobile. I've been getting their emails for a decade now but the email I received a couple days ago was the end of the line. The last wanted me to sign partition to demand congress investigate Trump for his links to Russia to see if Russia is trying to influence our elections.
They conveniently ignore the roll the DNC played in actually rigging our elections. Instead, they get all wound up over the possibility that Russia might be trying to influence them. It pissed me off and I let them know it in the comment section of the unsubscribe page.
I'm really getting sick and tired of these so called progressive sites ignoring the actions of the DNC and focusing on something to obscure the real issue. Next on my list is going to be Move On if they send me one more email that includes the words Trump and Russia in the same email.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
Do they even pay attention to those?
Probably not, I would guess. Most emails these orgs send is just automated clickbait anywho. I figured as much when I got automatic replies to indignant responses I sent to the Clinton campaign with their Stop Boogeyman Trump spam.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I think some of them do pay attention
A few years ago I tried and tried and tried to get off the DNC's email list. I'd unsubscribe and wouldn't get any email for a few months and then for no reason it would start again. I'd unsubscribe again and the same thing would. No emails for a couple months and then bingo, I'm on the list again. This happened at least 5 or 6 times. I had finally had it and filled out their little comment box and told them I had tried multiple times to unsubscribe and against my wises they kept adding me back on. I told them "If you ever add me back onto your list without my express written consent, I will file a lawsuit against you. I demand that you permanently remove me from your database and never mail or email me again."
Now, I didn't really believe that would stop them, but much to my surprise, I've never received another email from them!
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
me, too. i used to spend a lot of time at the
kossacks for sanders subreddit until the mods there instituted a no-trump policy. apparently, you can no longer post anything that even vaguely muses about voting for/supporting trump in order to deny her royal majesty the wh.
fuck that.
Unsubscribing
is my new way of venting!! The "Please tell us why you are leaving (optional)" is my avenue to let them know that anyone, or any group that will not offer up policy, rather than fear-mongering, and anti Trump bullshit will no longer have my support.
And yes...I unsubscibed from Credo over the same email. If you have donated to any of many organizations, or signed a petition, you are automatically sold to every other like minded org. Kos does it, Act Blue does it, Credo, and on and on.
I wondered if there were others that felt the same way...
about that email. It pissed me off! Had me yelling at the screen as I was typing my good bye note. Now I really wonder just how many people unsubscribed due to that one email. I'd be willing to guess there were thousands. I also wonder if they even understand?
And Move On got it from me today! That was the last email I'll be getting from them. I've actually been on Move On's email list since their inception back in the 1990's when they they first started their site with the "Censure and Move On" campaign. I also made that perfectly clear in my good bye note. There is a major political shift underway. So called "progressive" sites better pay attention or they're going to disappear.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
George W. Bush
I know what you mean
I got rid of Credo, Moveon and a cpl.others, I'm just sick of hearing Stop Trump Because.or its some other shit about all the great things hrc has done or gonna do. I did sign up for Green Party and CounterPunch much better content.
Didn't know
you could sign up for counterpunch, gonna do that right now. I did like them on FB though.
Solidarity forever
Yep
So you railed against
So you railed against identity politics but then you also said:
Gamergate had a point, regardless of whether you're too ignorant (willfully or otherwise, depending on where you got your information) to see it. "SJW" is only used to shut down conversation to the extent that SJWs try to use identity politics, bullying, and shaming to control conversation, and pointing out when people are trying to exert such control does not make one a right-wing apologist or a troll.
It's funny: for years, the right (that's the real, actual right, not "everyone who doesn't agree with you 100%") has been pointing out problems both with the Democrats and with the left generally, and so have a number of centrist and alt-left independents - and rather than take the opportunity to self-reflect, the supposedly more-educated, more-enlightened, and more-tolerant left doubled down.
Gamergate had a point on a few things at best. The rest.....
Was just unmitigated harassment at folks like Anita Sarkeesian just for stating the obvious when it came to women being used as plot devices, among other things. Oh, and shutting down female developers who supposedly slept with reviewers so they got better reviews than they deserved. The big guys do that kind of shit all the time and that never seemed to bother them before. Funny, isn't it?Last I heard Thunderfoot was still milking that cash cow even though it died a slow painful death. But hey, the man's gotta make a living, right? Keep in mind I'm not a fan of hers or any internet 'feminist' for that matter, but maybe she wouldn't have gotten as much attention as she did if a bunch of man-children hadn't whined about it and tried to harass people they didn't like out of existence.
If gamergate really wanted to do something constructive besides bitching about people criticizing their medium of choice, how about speaking out about the way companies are half-assing games and then releasing the rest as DLC? That's been huge with AAA developers over the better part of the last decade.
And as far as gaming and controversies go, I was playing Mortal Kombat when most gamergaters were in diapers to start with.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Gamergate had a point on a
Well, that was the story coming from feminists and the gaming media... and if you believe that, then you probably also believe there's a special place in Hell for women who don't vote for Hillary.
The smears they used against Gamergate were remarkably like the smears used against "BernieBros", and that's because they were using the same playbook.
You could just say you're biased.
Because that's outside the scope of what Gamergate was trying to do, which was to hold gaming media accountable. Speaking out about how the way companies are half-assing games and the releasing the rest as DLC is what the gaming media should be doing.
(There was another thing that Gamergate was trying to do, although most of them either denied it or weren't aware of it. SJWs have been attacking "geek culture" in all its forms for years now, and a lot of geeks are sick of being told that all their media is "problematic", that they are all sexists and racists, and that white men are the problem. Gamergate tried to fight back, which is one big reason why anti-Gamergate cast them all as sexist white bros. Unfortunately, a lot of people on the left eat that shit up with a spoon.)
Considering the number of present-day adults who grew up with Atari or Nintendo and the way "gamer" demographics are skewing older and older, I wouldn't be so sure about that. But I guess when you call people "man-children" it pleases you to imagine them in diapers.
Then they were doing a piss poor job of it.
Not gonna happen. There's too much money being made with the current business model for any effective change to happen. That'll take another market crash. And with the way things are going, I'd say it's not far off.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I agree to a point.
Gamergate had a point, insofar as it pertained to transparency in gaming journalism, which is notoriously corrupt, but it went completely off the rails when it started deploying actual sexism to combat what the people that were part of it saw as unfair, identity politics-based suppression of speech. The problem is that people on both sides were so wedged into their "Gamegate is sexist" and "SJWs are terrible" dichotomy that any relevant issues that they both brought up were lost in the constant back-and-forth between them. It also didn't help that most gaming outlets and forums banned anyone for even suggesting that Gamergate was anything other than sexist and that they might have a point.
Plus, Gamergate itself is interesting in that it was more of an intra-left dispute than a traditional right-left argument. The right picked up on it eventually, but it was really more of an argument between a faction of the Anonymous-like folks on 4chan and the neoliberal left. In that sense, it was fascinating to see how the establishment immediately shut down the critique of the industry by deploying "sexist" as an attack designed to silence and shame the opposition. Even today, a lot of people in gaming media, particularly at clickbait tabloid sites like Kotaku and Polygon, just assume that any critiques of the behavior of people in the industry are motivated by sexism, even when it's revealed in the end that said individuals--both men and women--acted inappropriately.
Expecting honesty in business journalism in general...
You can't really expect honesty or ethics. I might be exaggerating a bit but if business journalism were honest, especially about products released by the big guys, then the guys who pay them for reviews wouldn't make money. Or at the very least, they wouldn't sell as much as they want to.
It also doesn't help that businesses work their employees to death, especially during holiday seasons, to get products out even if they aren't finished. That's what really needs work, I think.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
I really just think that we need full disclosure.
There's a conflict of interest everywhere in gaming media. I don't ever expect it to get resolved, but I think that one of the big reasons why there hasn't been a big consumer revolt against the terrible practices of the big devs and publishers is because the media is so complicit in pushing their business model onto people. Even now, it seems like there's a record low level of trust between gamers and media, and folks are turning to YouTube personalities for a more "unfiltered" perspective, but in some respects, that's even worse in terms of transparency.
I definitely do agree with you 100% on the production side, though. The annualization of sequels and the transformation of gaming into a service rather than a product has pretty much ruined the hobby and has set the industry up for another crash in the long term. It's all about immediate profit and selling everything to us piecemeal, while the devs have little job security, are underpaid, and have their creative choices undercut by the higher ups. Like every other industry, all the money is heading to the top while the workers get screwed.
This is exactly the reason I try to support indies.
Not only is the product better quality, but the pace of development is much slower, and the interaction with the fans is much better.
Yes, it means I'm several years behind on graphics, but as that's all AAA seems to care about anymore, it seems I'm several years ahead on gameplay, plot, and sound. (Oh lord the music. One of the greatest joys of being a fan of indie games is hearing and talking to composers. Have learned SO much from just a few conversations.)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Yeah, the "real right"
is the group who set the neo-liberal agenda in the first damned place, so you'll pardon those of us who see no reason to congratulate them for pointing out the corruption on the other side. A very nice distraction from THEIR agenda, and look how well it worked. They are not anyone's hero in this story, no matter how correct they might be. It does take a snake to know one many times you know.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
That was my problem with Gamergate in general.
They claimed that the movement was about 'journalistic ethics' in gaming when over time it became more and more clear that it was anything but. They had no problem going after smaller-scale companies and female developers and critics, but wouldn't say a damned thing when it came to the bigger guys doing the same things they claimed were the problem from the start.
Or, if you wanna go political with it, Bill Clinton got impeached for what amounted to an oval-office blowjob while Dubya got off scot-free for blatantly ignoring every warning before the 9/11 attacks and the war crimes that followed (And Hillary voted for them to boot).
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
you'll pardon those of us who
You should congratulate yourselves for dealing with the corruption. Except... aww, you can't, because you didn't.
And neither did Gamergate.
Instead they became a weaponized mob and internet cash cow that was all too easy to exploit. Not a single one of them had the balls to deal with the corruption or the other problems plaguing the industry and that eventually led to it becoming little more than a punchline. And it was well deserved considering how readily they shit on small scale developers while giving the larger ones a pass.
Yeah, because god forbid we actually question the guys who churn out our overly priced roided out spank fests with new and shiny digital eyelash rendering. Never mind the people who are worked to death from programmers to artists to rush it all out before the Black Friday and Christmas Hunger Games despite still being in what could be considered a beta stage. Then those same companies will sell the rest of the game as shitty paid DLC and make out like bandits.
Let's just go after a female developer based on bullshit spread around forums by a pissed off, vindictive ex-boyfriend. Let's go after a female media critic who stated the obvious, too. We can't have those dang ol' radical feminazis pointing out sexist tropes while saying it's perfectly fine to enjoy gaming while recognizing they exist. Oh, but we're totally not sexist assholes because paid shills from the American Enterprise Institute and A Voice for Men who happened to be women joined our cause and totally legitimized the movement.
And that's why Gamergate became the punchline it is now. And they have only themselves to blame for it.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
"Instead they became a
"Instead they became a weaponized mob and internet cash cow"
You're writing fiction now?
"Not a single one of them had the balls to deal with the corruption or the other problems plaguing the industry"
What you mean is that not a single one of them had the platform to do so. That was the media's job, which is why GG went after the media. The media used their platform to smear its critics instead.
"Let's just go after a female developer based on bullshit spread around forums by a pissed off, vindictive ex-boyfriend."
If the genders were reversed, you wouldn't dare describe what happened this way, you sexist hypocrite.
"Let's go after a female media critic who stated the obvious, too."
By "stated the obvious", you mean "packaged a slanted and inaccurate narrative with cherry-picked evidence to support the false conclusion her aggrieved and entitled followers wanted to see".
"Oh, but we're totally not sexist assholes because paid shills from the American Enterprise Institute and A Voice for Men who happened to be women joined our cause"
ROFL. Yeah, they were all paid shills. All the blacks and gays, too; in fact literally everyone who wasn't a cis-hetero white male was paid. GG spent millions on astroturfing. Keep this up and your name will appear in grocery store checkout aisles next to Danielle Steel and Dean Koontz.
I've been called an SJW. Because as a Bernie supporter I am
fighting for, ya know, social justice.
Some do use it as a pejorative to shut down the conversation. I wear the label proudly.
And I doubt you'll find me bullying, shaming, or trying to shut down conversation.
Like so many things, the definition changes depending on who you ask.
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gamergate's
only point was whining crying flaccidly-masturbating male babies wanting to continue to come all over their Thanatos kill-boxes without some icky nasty scary wimmins saying anything about it.
Anyone who utilizes as criticism the term "social justice warrior" is an irredeemed winger, just as anyone who utilizes as criticism the term "political correctness" is an irredeemed winger.
And anyone who plays a "game," in which human lives are taken, is anathema.
A post like that takes a lot
A post like that takes a lot of nerve. You've got to really commit to looking like a complete ass - no half-measures will suffice.
SJW isn't really the correct term.
"Injustice Collectors" is.
And there are more Injustice Collectors among the Hillbots than among the Berniacs. Berniacs tend to want to actually fix what is wrong with American society. Hillbots just want to whine against us trying to do so.
From the linked website, here's some evidence to this assertion:
Does that sound like the situation at TOP, or what?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I remember hearing that term a while back.
And in this case it definitely fits.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Sounds exactly like an SJW to
Sounds exactly like an SJW to me, except that your description is generalized whereas an SJW specifically uses "social justice" and the high moral ground it presumably grants its advocates as an excuse for their behavior and a means of attack.
I have to admit I'm having a hard time thinking of any non-SJW examples, although some of the most stubborn and obnoxious right-wingers might fit (right-libertarians in particular, for whom all government is crime and theft, except when it's protecting their stuff).
Sounds like HRC herself.
Dingdingdingdingding!!
Give Eagles92 a Marijuana! (I live in Colorado; I can say that!)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Well, that's an odd line of attack.
I was under the impression that the individuals traditionally identified as SJWs were Hillary supporters, given their use of identity politics to shut down debate and redirect to only the social issues that they care about. Practically all of the folks that signed that #WeAreTheLeft dumpster fire of a manifesto weeks ago are from that contingent. The "Social Justice Warrior" label, at least as I understand it, really applies to individuals who talk the talk on social justice issues, but come from highly privileged backgrounds, and refuse to walk the walk. Most of what they say is straightforward neoliberalism.
The majority of the folks that refuse to vote for Hillary now do so on the basis of concrete policy, while the folks that are bashing the hell out of us are screaming "Trump is a Nazi" and calling us sexists.
Depends on who you ask.
Hillbots genuine social justice warriors? Pshaw. They wish.
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The Clinton campaign rests on only 3 things
1. Identity politics, held together by a 2-decades-old patronage network
2. Fear of the opposition
3. The inevitability of victory
That's it, the whole thing, right from day 1. They've basically got nothing else, and don't seem to give a damn. A few months ago I managed to get myself suspended over at GOS for pointing this out.
It's amazing how the people on DK have changed since it was
created. Many of us joined during the Bush years, mainly because of the Iraq war, the tax breaks for the rich and the illegal spying.
But once Obama was elected and continued his policies, especially continuing PNAC's war in the Middle East, his use of drones, killing Americans without due process and expanding the illegal spying, many people just accepted those actions because it was Obama doing them.
Remember how many people said that Snowden was a traitor for revealing the spying program?
Or the I/P pie fights?
Or accepting that the war on Libya was acceptable because Gaddafi was a bad person?
Now despite the evidence that Hillary is a warmonger, her supporters refuse to see it.
They believe that after spending 4 years giving speeches on how great the TPP is going to be, they believe her after she said that she is against it as it is written now.
Or that she is going to do something about climate change after she spent 4 years pushing for fracking all over the world.
But the biggest change is Markos coming out in support of Hillary, going so far as to make his website the laughing stock of progressive websites.
His acceptance of the people being paid by Correct the Record and letting them deride longtime members.
Here is the article he wrote when Hillary ran against Obama.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/05/AR200605...
Add everything she has done since then, including her paid speeches to the banks and refusing to see that she isn't going to regulate the people who had funded the Clinton's entire political careers, and especially the favors that she and Bill owe the people and governments who paid Bill millions in speaking fees and donating to their foundation.
If Hillary loses the election, it isn't going to be because of the Bernie supporters, it's going to be because she is a liar and people don't trust her.
Or Bill who is going to be the co-president. He's going to have more power than Kaine.
There were problems with running a campaign of Joy while committing a genocide? Who could have guessed?
Harris is unburdened of speaking going forward.
bill's not going to be co-prez...
he's going to be the prez--& lazy hillary is just fine with that.
it's going to be fun watching her try to shift the blame to whoever when bill's decisions blow up in her face, too
Hillary's already been President for 8 years!
The same role he had when he was the elected President! Hillary's already been President for 8 years! She shouldn't get to run again, BUT......
;-(
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Here's where the entire narrative gets sticky.
The entire "SJW" has gotten insanely expansive, to the point where you have people screaming that people are SJW's for attacking people who don't like movies as sexist.
It's gotten to a factional war on Twitter, with groups of users demanding oaths of fealty, and numerous other ridiculous tactics, all straight out of the DKOS playbook.
As a term, it no longer has any meaning anymore. It's been attempted to be reclaimed by the "SJW's" to be a term of pride, but is also used by those that dismiss that meaning. As a result it's a meaningless word, much like "Sexist" has become anyone who differs from an opinion held by someone who wants to employ shame as a tactic. (Jill Stein supporters, supposedly are sexists. It has NO meaning anymore.)
Smears and accusations are only inflamed by the media, which likes to hold up certain people as victims, and others as aggressors, until it's no longer clear exactly what happened, and all we have left is a great deal of hearsay obfuscated by dozens of people shouting that they KNOW it's true because somebody else said it was true. This is exactly how everybody KNOWS Nader cost Gore the election. This is how everybody KNOWS Bernie Bros threw chairs. This is how everybody KNOWS anybody who criticizes certain people is a Sexist... on and on.
Eventually you just can't trust anything the media says. Which is my policy. I know both gamergaters and self proclaimed SJWs. When they stick to the topic and debate properly, it's amazing how cognizant and eloquent they can be. The mudslinging match the media wants is not the reality, but the perceived reality, which is what people react to.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
That's happened to a lot of terms, really.
Socialist, Communist, Fascist...just to name a few. And most of the time they're used as a means of stopping meaningful conversation.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
Hillary is the "specialest" snowflake of all.
You are not supposed to mention her age; her voice; her laugh; her health, her hideous fashion sense, her marriage; how she got the job titles that supposedly qualify her to be President; her job performance as Secretary of State or, indeed, any of her track record before last month; my abuela's pandering; her bigoted primary campaign of 2008; her bigoted primary campaign of 2016; her hugs to Kissinger, Bush 43 and Trump, among others; her symbiotic relationship with Wall Street; her email servers; DNC corruption on her behalf during the primary; what actually happened to the Hillary Victory Fund; her Iraq War vote; her opposition to equal marriage until 2013; her willingness to negotiate a constitutional amendment on choice; her screaming hypocrisy about Citizens United,; her involvement with the DLC and Al From, etc., etc., etc.
I've long since given up on Truman"s "The buck stops here." No Politician ever takes responsibility for anything anymore. However, whatever happened to Truman's "If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen?"
joan walsh (gag) said (if anyone cares what jw says)
that the dp now belongs to a-a women b/c they voted for hillary (by 85%) in the primaries/caucuses.
good luck in winning the general with that baggage, hillary!
Social Justice is my moral compass
I can't imagine subscribing to any ideology or supporting any candidate where social justice is not part of the agenda.
Love is my religion.
That's why use of the best terminology matters!
There are genuine warriors for social justice who aren't narcissistic dicks. (Example: Bernie Sanders.)
That's why the term "Injustice Collectors" is the superior term to use here, IMO. "Injustice Collectors" are the narcissistic dicks, and only the narcissistic dicks. It makes it a lot easier to talk about the the narcissistic dicks when you only want to talk about them.
And this election cycle is replete with the "Injustice Collector" species of the narcissistic dicks, as is TOP at the current time!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Injustice Collectors
Good to learn new phrases. Yes, very important to differentiate the two sorts of people.
Love is my religion.
There's nothing wrong with being a Social Justice Warrior. There
IS a lot wrong with being a Social Justice Whackjob.
There's a big difference.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa