Open Thread SAT 9 MAR 24 ~ Spirits in the night

Submitted by QMS on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 5:00am

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Welcome. Treated to a pair of owls discussing politics out front last night.
I think there was one R and one D. They could not agree on anything.
Back and forth with the same sounding hoots. Over and over.
Kinda cool to listen to.

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Something to get the ball rolling. Any and all tidbits are up to you.

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Submitted by Lookout on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 7:05am
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We often enjoy an owl concert. Such a variety of them here from the small screech owl to the large Great Horned.

We're still looking for a regular Sat OT host(ess). Some of my favorite OT's featured postings of art and artists, poem of the day, music genre' or musician, bird of day would be fun, or some other simple theme/format. Hope one of you will consider the task.

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Submitted by QMS on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 8:01am
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Agree with the idea of a simple posting. Comments come in from all directions
and the thread takes on a life of its own. Can appreciate how much effort you
put into the Sunday Watch. Two OT's a week is a bit much for me.

cheers

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 11:39am
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Biden has promised that he would take action 3 years in a row and he makes it obviously that they are empty promises.

This is the dem playbook going back to Clinton. Obama promised to codify abortion rights and it was his first priority….once he got in he said it wasn’t a priority.

Biden promised that if voters send the right people to congress he will codify abortion rights….last election Pelosi and Schumer went out of their way to re-elect Cueller who is anti abortion. Hillary selected Tim Kaine, and anti abortion as her VP. You think democracy give a hoot about abortion? Can you be that stupid? If democrats catch the abortion car then what will they run and campaign on? Saving social security?

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Submitted by doh1304 on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 11:56am

@snoopydawg
Medicare, SS "cuts" since at least the 1980s. Or has he forgotten?

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On to Biden since 1973

Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 4:16pm
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@doh1304

But now we’re being told that republicans are going to destroy it even though dems hold the senate and WH. But remember Biden’s other promise

"I will reach across the isle and work with republicans."

Schumer and others ‘progressive democrats are pushing for Medicare Advantage to replace regular Medicare. Both parties want it privatized. Schumer, Biden, Pelosi, McConnell, ect have been in congress for 4-5 decades and they have worked to make our lives less secure every year. Since Clinton they have been trying to destroy the new deal and they have almost succeeded. Slowly, but Shirley government has made life much more difficult to survive.

Dad used to work 8 hours 5 days a week while mom stayed home to raise the kids, got 2 weeks vacation spent at their 2nd home, had decent medical care….. and now?

Why did we keep electing the people who were doing this to us and why didn’t we see it earlier that they were? Remember it was a dem president that got NAFTA, welfare reform, the crime bill and many other horrible legislation passed that republicans couldn’t because of the dem base objected. Obama ruined the housing market for the next generation and he destroyed the medical system as we knew it.

Democrats say we must vote for them to save democracy. Pffft. I want them to fix the economy so people don’t need to work themselves to death.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 11:57am

difficult, I wouldn't be able to post them! Lol!
OTs are the place where commenters mention whatever topic or idea came to their minds. Most members do not write essays, but need a good place to share comment content and start an engaging back and forth. I encourage site members to consider doing an OT and devote a little time to keep the exchange of ideas flowing.
I have some free time this afternoon, and intend to watch some videos from the ebs. We went to a Mexican food restaurant last evening that hasn't gotten the memo to inflate their prices. We had a huge meal, and enough leftovers for another meal this evening. $38.00. The best corn tortillas evah!
I hope everyone has an enjoyable weekend.

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Submitted by earthling1 on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 5:55pm
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@on the cusp
I have no trouble generating a topic to open an OT and putting together some sentences and paragraphs, and I flunked English twice in High School.
Spellcheck is the holy grail for me.
As Barbara Wawa used to say " Discuss amongst yourselves".
I would encourage anyone to give it a shot, you may like.
I have.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
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Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 3:06pm

days to implement) was as successful as flying a lead balloon a new plan has been developed in order to deflect criticism.

https://www.politico.eu/article/cyprus-gaza-sea-corridor-not-imminent-bu...

A ship carrying aid for Gaza will leave Cyprus in the next 24 hours on a trial run along a new humanitarian sea corridor, Cypriot President Nikos Christodoulides said late Saturday.

A vessel belonging to the Spanish charity Open Arms will be ferrying food aid collected by the U.S. charity World Central Kitchen, as the EU and its partners attempt to open up a new avenue for getting urgently needed assistance to the besieged Gaza Strip.

“The ship will leave Larnaca in the next 24 hours. I cannot say the specific time for security reasons,” Christodoulides told reporters late Saturday.

European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen on Friday visited the Cypriot port of Larnaca, the starting point of the corridor, and said that the operation might start as early as this weekend.

Cyprus, which is the closest EU member to Israel and the Palestinian territories, first presented the idea of the sea corridor last year. In December, it was announced that a ship with aid had left for Gaza but eventually had to offload aid for Gaza in neighboring Egypt.

Christodoulides didn’t specify where the ship will anchor to unload the aid. The hope is that the supplies can help alleviate the dire humanitarian crisis in the Gaza Strip, where the United Nations says the population is suffering from “catastrophic hunger” after more than five months of conflict.

Analysts said that, even if this pilot run is successful, the sea corridor won’t become operational until a planned temporary dock is constructed by the U.S. The American military estimates that will take two months.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 3:29pm

@humphrey will die from starvation by the time the magic floating port is usable.
Didn't I read somewhere that Israel will still control what aid gets into Gaza?

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Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 3:40pm

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As far as I can tell the aid coming from Cyprus seems to be loading on a small barge which will do little to help the famine caused by Israel with unlimited support from Genocide Joe.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 3:56pm

@humphrey will go unabated.
If you run out of sharpshooters, do this instead.

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Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 4:23pm

for Israel seems to be eroding although it can't happen soon enough.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68518468

Sweden and Canada have said they will resume aid payments to UNRWA, the UN agency for Palestinian refugees.

They were among 16 countries that paused funds after Israel accused at least 12 UNRWA staff of involvement in the 7 October attack by Hamas.

The UN is investigating, and France's foreign minister is leading a review.

Sweden said on Saturday it would send 200 million kronor (£15m; $19m) initially, after UNRWA agreed to more checks on its spending and staff.

"The government has allocated 400 million kronor to UNRWA for the year 2024. Today's decision concerns a first payment of 200 million kronor," it said in a statement.

It comes after Canada said on Friday that it would re-start funding for UNRWA while investigations into the agency's staff continue.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 5:35pm

in a few minutes.
I saw one wild turkey, herd another one gobbling. Lots of doves. At night around here, their are always owls calling out somebody for something.
We will drive the 5 miles going in relative sunlight and can spot the deer before we hit them with the car. Coming home, we will drive very slowly. They seem to be drawn to headlights!

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Submitted by earthling1 on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 6:09pm
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And the MM cut. Always found myself humming that tune for no particular reason.
Some where on my smarty phone I have a pic of two owls sitting side by side watching me make my rounds on the mower at the farm. I'll see if I can find it and post.

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Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 6:59pm

The rest of the tweet:

So, during regular classes in basic military training, local schoolchildren began to be trained as “saboteurs,” writes Ukropsky Fresh . In particular, it is reported that, by order of the command of the 117th TRO, boxes of pistols began to be delivered to schools in the Sumy region, and children were trained to “fight the Russian occupiers.”

Roughly speaking, the plans of the command of 117 TRO provide that a significant part of the region will come under the control of Russian troops. However, it will not be regular Ukrainian troops who will have to fight against the Russian Armed Forces, but local schoolchildren, each of whom will be assigned a pistol, as well as personal protective equipment.

Let us note that in the current situation, in addition to the notorious “Hitler Youth”, there is another important nuance - keeping weapons in schools can lead to terrible tragedies.

Throwing fooled children with bad weapons under tanks is Zelensky’s defense plan. Ukraine follows the path of the Reich in everything.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 7:01pm
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a fantastic winter predator.
Thanks for the Manfred Mann, haven't heard that one in a looooong time.
Thanks for picking up the OT.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 7:22pm
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to get them to admit helping Hamas' invasion to get countries to stop supporting UNRWA.

Will the world leaders who are Sitting on their fcking asses get off them and condemn Israel?

https://www.caitlinjohnst.one/p/israel-accused-of-torturing-un-workers?u...

“The document said several UNRWA Palestinian staffers had been detained by the Israeli army, and added that the ill-treatment and abuse they said they had experienced included severe physical beatings, waterboarding, and threats of harm to family members,” Reuters reports, saying UNRWA workers “reported having been pressured by Israeli authorities into falsely stating that the agency has Hamas links and that staff took part in the Oct. 7 attacks.”

This is another one of those stories about Israeli offenses that are so stunning that at first you can mistakenly believe you must not be reading it correctly — especially since the western political-media class haven’t been treating it like the jarring news that it is. If we had anything remotely like an objective news media in the western world, reports that Israel tortured United Nations staff to get them to make false statements against a UN aid agency would be the top story everywhere for days.

Maybe if Israel was called Russia there would be consequences for their actions. They have broken every international law in the book and then some. I think that answers the question whether Israel has a right to exist.

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Submitted by humphrey on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 9:38pm

@snoopydawg

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 11:05pm
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“I’m never gonna leave Israel. The defense of Israel is still critical, so there is no red line,” he said in an interview with liberal news outlet MSNBC.

However, the president noted that Netanyahu, with his actions in Gaza, is harming Israel more than helping it, turning the whole world against the Jewish state, Biden said.

"He [Netanyahu] has the right to defend Israel, the right to continue to pursue Hamas, but he must, he must, he must pay more attention to the innocent lives being lost as a consequence of the actions taken," Biden claimed, adding that in his opinion, Netanyahu "is hurting Israel more than helping Israel by making the rest of the world" to go against what Israel stands for, which is a "big mistake."

You gd blathering idiot! Which country has vetoed 3 ceasefires so that aid can get into Gaza? And the whole world isn’t just turning against Israel. It’s turning against you and America for showing what the rules based order stands for. And no Israel doesn’t have the right to defend itself when it costs hundreds of thousands of innocent lives. Notice how Biden, et al never say that Palestinians have the right to defend themselves from what Israel has been doing to them since Jews arrived in the area.

Shitlibs discussed how much worse Trump would be if he beat Biden. Well by the time Trump gets elected most Palestinians will either be dead or pushed into the Sinai desert because Biden allowed Israel to continue its murderous right to defend itself! Sadly this is a bipartisan agreement.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 11:19pm

@snoopydawg @snoopydawg come se, come sa.

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Submitted by snoopydawg on Sat, 03/09/2024 - 11:43pm
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@on the cusp

But by the time he wins again most Palestinians will be dead. All that will be left is to sell ocean front property in Gaza.

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Submitted by on the cusp on Sun, 03/10/2024 - 8:58am

@snoopydawg have a place picked out, I am guessing...

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Submitted by Cassiodorus on Sun, 03/10/2024 - 12:02am
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@snoopydawg -- especially if one limits the focus to foreign policy -- as down there with James Buchanan, who did not feel he could stop the US civil war, and whose Secretary of War John B. Floyd scattered vast caches of weaponry in places in the South where the Confederates could seize them, before himself becoming an incompetent Confederate general. Or maybe Biden will be ranked with George W. Bush...

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Submitted by TheOtherMaven on Sun, 03/10/2024 - 11:26am
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@Cassiodorus

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