Open Thread WE 7 FEB 24 ~ e day, EU, Pan

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 5:00am



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1992 -- The Maastricht Treaty is signed by 12 countries from the European Community (EC) to create the European Union (EU) except UK split and Ireland may do the same?

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Pan illustrated in the Flemish magazine Regenboog. Draft for the woodcut Pan of Jozef Cantré. Published in 1918. per wiki

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Pan And Syrinx

Pan’s romantic pursuits often led to captivating tales, and his infatuation with the wood-nymph Syrinx is no exception. As Syrinx returned from a hunt, Pan’s advances forced her to flee. She ran from Mount Lycaeum, seeking refuge among her nymph sisters who, in a bid to protect her, transformed her into a reed. When the winds caressed these reeds, they produced a hauntingly beautiful melody. Unable to discern which reed was Syrinx, a heartbroken Pan fashioned an instrument from several reeds, creating the iconic pan flute. This instrument became synonymous with him, a constant reminder of his unrequited love.

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This jumble of ideas presented today is only a start, please add whatever turns
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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 6:49am
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One of today's funny headlines:

In the Nevada primary, Nikki Haley came in a distant second place
behind "none of the above".
H/T to Humphrey in last nights EB.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 7:46am
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for being wrong. No, you get punished for being right.

"American Journalism Has Lost A Giant: Rest In Peace Kristina Borjesson,
Who Broke The Truth About TWA 800, And Was Exiled From CBS
And The Profession Because Of it"

This is a bit dated (12/29/2023) but her legacy is important.

Kristina was the author of many important books including:
Into The Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press (2002);
Feet to the Fire: The Media After 9/11, Top Journalists Speak Out (2005) and
The Reptile Club Librarian (2013).

https://americanswhotellthetruth.org/portraits/kristina-borjesson/

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Submitted by Lookout on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 8:33am
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My question is will the EU and NATO survive? I doubt it.

Nice story/myth of the pan pipes.

I finished the winter mowing yesterday. I've got a little weed eating to finish up this morning.
We've had lovely weather..sunny and mid-60's.

Well thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 9:42am

Well, I have done everything I possibly can to stay out of any local political election crap, but 2 peace officers running for office just happen to be my long-time clients. Yesterday, a hearing involving the two peace officers went very public, drawing news reporters from Houston. I had no part in it, did not attend.
After it ended, I received 3 strange phone calls at my office. Weird, vulgar stuff. All from "private caller" showing up on the screen on my phone. We were unable to trace it.
I have decided to take this up with the FBI if it continues, skipping the Sheriff's Office completely. One of the peace officers from yesterday is running for sheriff against the incumbent.
That's how my week is going! My trip to visit Goliad, tour the historic district, will not happen this weekend. The rains and storms begin Friday, continue through Sunday evening.
With travel, it's always something!
Thanks for the OT, my friend!

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 10:00am
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Sorry to hear that. As well as the weather spoiling your plans.
Hopefully things will flip into a more positive frame.

cheers

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 10:05am
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for today.

Some facts about China and Chinese moving into the Americas - worthy of a full read, and the embedded stuff on Mexicali too.

https://www.scmp.com/economy/china-economy/article/3250695/china-has-mad...

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 10:57am

@enhydra lutris the distribution of fentanyl is the China-Mexico-US route.
It works really well when someone on this continent speaks Chinese.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 12:23pm
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and seemingly places in Mexico and SA too. What the article is about is the increased investment in Mexico due to the US' tariffs and treaties, similar to the post '64 boom in maquiladoras.

When I was in Mazatlan, the dockside area was literally covered with new MG automobiles. The brand is now owned and manufactured by China's SAIC company in China. They have a decent and growing market share in Mexico, but none in the US because of punitive duties levied by the US. They are one of the companies looking to set us shop in Mexico because then those cars can enter the US duty free. Ditto EVs, they are a world leader in EVs, but sell none here. That too is a sector that is seeking to build factories in Mexico, as well as battery manufacturers.

President Joe Biden’s administration is concerned that Chinese carmakers would sidestep the measures by building cars in Mexico, outshining global rivals with technologically advanced models that are more competitively priced.

Top members of the Republican-led House Select Committee on China wrote in a recent letter they were worried Chinese companies would use Mexico as a “back door” into their market.

China is the world’s largest producer of electric vehicles and their batteries, with its carmakers increasingly exporting low-cost models around the world as they face overcapacity in domestic factories.

https://www.afr.com/world/north-america/us-fears-as-china-eyes-ev-factor...

This isn't just about drug running, and the real question is whether or net there is a net benefit or loss to US citizenry if/when it occurs, and whether or not the US, which is sure to try to stop it, can effectively do so.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by on the cusp on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 1:26pm

@enhydra lutris There is tons of chatter about why Chinese are coming here illegally. Added my two cents.
(Very glad, since two cents is the entirety of my budget for such.)
Are you still in Mexico in your mind? Sounds like you had a great trip.
It is wonderful you were fit enough to do your vacay thing there.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 4:14pm
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@on the cusp

vaguely in Mazatlan. However, my body is somewhat addicted to specific monoclonal antibodies which sort of ties me down here.

be well and have a good one

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 1:30pm
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@enhydra lutris
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are the fences of the investment class
can't win that way alone so
they get politics and military involved

foot shooting basics

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 11:03am
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China sees a way to invest in a country to build market potential.
US sees that as an encroachment by hostile competitors.

China’s Ministry of Commerce said at a December news conference that its cooperation with Mexico on new energy vehicles is “normal commercial activity between two sovereign countries”, adding the US has no right to intervene.

US lost out in the long run by shipping our manufacturing base to China and Mexico.
The weakness created by short term gains is coming back to bite the US now.

good luck with the rains

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 12:06pm
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monica

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 2:07pm

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 2:33pm
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that horse has already left the barn.
Zion is proving there is a
double standard as to what defines
human rights, using the race card

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 2:33pm

Prelude:

Many in the west have their panties in a bunch.

I like this response.

I guess that it really happened!

https://www.rt.com/russia/591999-peskov-carlson-putin-interview/

Russian President Vladimir Putin met with US journalist Tucker Carlson on Tuesday for an interview, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told a daily media briefing on Wednesday. The American had announced the imminent release of the footage hours earlier.

Peskov declined to say when exactly the public will be able to see the interview and would not comment on its contents. He noted that being an American, Carlson was neither pro-Russian nor pro-Ukrainian in terms of his attitude to the Ukraine conflict, which is expected to be the focus of the interview.

He pointed out that the interviewer’s position contrasts with that which dominates in Western media, which is why the Kremlin had granted his request. The Kremlin spokesman added, however, that Carlson is wrong when he claims that Western news outlets haven’t bothered to seek an interview with the Russian leader.

Earlier, The Wall Street Journal reported that Carlson will likely publish his production on Thursday, citing “people familiar with the matter.”

Carlson has vowed that his talk with Putin will be released uncut on his streaming platform and will not be paywalled. He said it was important for the American public to hear what the Russian president had to say, because the stakes of the Ukraine stand-off were very high.

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Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 3:03pm
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with Assange, Snowdon, Manning and the like.
If MSM can not control the message
there is hell to pay. Can't call it state secrets.
Maybe stay in Russia for awhile?

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Submitted by humphrey on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 3:25pm

keep up with what he is doing.

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Submitted by Cassiodorus on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 4:04pm
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@humphrey

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The ruling classes need an extra party to make the rest of us feel as if we participate in democracy. That's what the Democrats are for. They make the US more durable than the Soviet Union was.

Submitted by QMS on Wed, 02/07/2024 - 4:05pm
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Saudi Arabia has drawn a line in the sand with Rafah.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/blistering-saudi-statement-slams-...

https://www.rt.com/news/592026-saudi-arabia-palestinian-state/?ysclid=ls...

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