Resistance and Solidarity

Election fever season seems to be heating up to a level unprecedented in recent cycles and the hype is getting pretty thick relative to the significance of the election.

Not that you asked for my opinion, but, this is probably the least important election of my lifetime. That is not to say that other events are not consequential, we live in precarious times with the sands of change shifting under our feet. The thing is, it's quite unlikely that this election will make any difference in addressing the urgent situations that humankind is facing.

We have gotten to the point in the cycle where we can say that (excluding the occurance of a miracle) the winner of the election will either be an unhinged, deeply corrupt, war-mongering, McCarthyite, racist, austerity and globalization-promoting, fracking queen - or it will be an unhinged, austerity-promoting, tax-chopping, racist, ego-driven, narcissistic, climate-change-denying, loose cannon, con-man.

In other words, the Democrat or the Republican will probably win.

But the good news is that the 1%'s game is more transparent than ever:

For much of the last century the illusion of social progress sold through the New Deal, the Great Society and more recently through capitalist enterprise ‘freed’ from the bind of social accountability, if not exactly from the need for regular and robust public support, served to hold at bay the perpetual tomorrow of lives lived for the theorized greater good of accumulated self-interest. ... Being three or more decades in the making, the current political season was never about the candidates except inasmuch as they embody the grotesquely disfigured and depraved condition of the body politic. The ‘consumer choice’ politics of Democrat versus Republican, Hillary Clinton versus Donald Trump, poses the greater-evilism of an ossified political class against the facts of its own creation now in dire need of resolution— wars to end wars, environmental crisis to end environmental crises, economic predation to end economic predation and manufactured social misery to end social misery.

The liberals and progressives in the managerial class who support the status quo and are acting as enforcers to elect Hillary Clinton are but one recession away from being tossed overboard by those they serve within the existing economic order. The premise that the ruling class will always need dedicated servants grants coherent logic and aggregated self-interest that history has disproven time and again. A crude metaphor would be the unintended consequences of capitalist production now aggregating to environmental crisis. Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are both such conspicuously corrupt tools of an intellectually and spiritually bankrupt social order that granting tactical brilliance to their ascendance, or even pragmatism given the point in history and available choices, seems wildly generous. For those looking for a political moment, one is on the way.

This election cycle more than previous ones, the 1% parties have shown their hand rigging the primaries behind the scenes to deliver us the "choices" for the November election.

It is fairly obvious that elections as a means of making positive change for the US is foreclosed as a means for the people.

Even the sainted Bernie Sanders says so, as David Dayen notes in a recent essay about the launch of "Our Revolution" :

When Bernie Sanders stepped to the stage on Wednesday to announce the launching of “Our Revolution,” a political organization dedicated to keeping the momentum of his presidential campaign going by supporting candidates at all levels of government, he inadvertently admitted that it wouldn’t do much good. “Real change never ever takes place from the top on down. It’s not some guy signing a bill,” Sanders said at the live-streamed launch event. “It always takes place from the bottom up when millions of people come together and demand fundamental change in the country.” ...

The truth is that what boosted the Sanders campaign from irrelevance to prominence did come from the bottom up—not just from $27 donations, but from millions of moments of personal expression, using tools as old as leaflets and as new as Facebook. A cultural and political transformation brought Sanders, and more precisely his message, to the forefront. And the people who did it don’t need to be told how to continue the mission.

We’re in an era of leaderless political engagement at the street level, where exercising power and expressing outrage frequently mirror one another.

The opportunity that is upon us is an unparalleled opportunity to resist the system as a largely united people. There are social forces stirring - from football players protesting social injustice, police brutality and inequality to average people who have been energized by the possibility of radical change during this election cycle.

These agendas don't need a political candidate to carry them forward, they need the people.

Left/progressives can use the same tools that they used to turn the Sanders election campaign into a political force to mount a resistance and change campaign to further a more radical agenda which is needed to deal the many urgent issues that we are facing. We can create an alternative culture of change with the media tools that we have at hand and build a movement.

The challenge we face is in achieving solidarity both amongst ourselves and with a larger community.

We are a fractious bunch that falls easily into argument about everything from elections and candidates to what sorts of language is proper to be used by activists. These arguments tend to split up our groups and make us less effective in spreading an agenda.

My $.02. Your mileage may vary.

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Seems to me that far too many injured/damaged veterans get very little money, respect or security...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

it costs the USA approx. $1Million per year to keep a soldier or sailor on duty. Of course, little goes to the individual military enlistee but when you factor in the pay, room & board, and future benefits that too adds up.

Stay a civilian; don't offer your body to the MIC.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

ggersh's picture

for the national guard, they never expected to go overseas to fight in Iraq
especially those who joined up before the Iraq war

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

the first line of defense for disasters - natural and man-caused - and their ability to respond quickly with the needed expertise and supplies saved many lives. To me, this overcame the misuse of the Guard to suppress labor in strike situations.

I think it was unprecedented to routinely deploy the national guard overseas in combat roles.

Nice call - thanks.

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ggersh's picture

I remember all about the guard from my cousin who was in it back in 68, who gently warned me not to come anywhere near Grant Park where he
stationed during the convention.

BTW he joined the guard to stay out of Nam.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

in the National Guard. Hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, chemical spills - Call the Guard and they'd get there very quickly and were trained to help the people and keep order.

It was more than a shame when the Guard was considered to be regular army and deployed out of country - states lost a valuable resource in emergencies and the Guard was placed in situations their training did not prepare them for. (good for your cousin.)

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

ggersh's picture

it was a way for Dubya to circumvent not being able to fight the wars he wanted to, these same lawless misadventures also led to the new mercenary forces we have serving in god knows where countries worldwide.

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

mimi's picture

as fake as all the other bullshit propaganda spread out in this country.

No, me and my son have no excuse. You make me feel like shit. And I don't like it. But heh, we have no excuse. So, you are so right. Thanks.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

mimi's picture

most of his digits he puts on the table.

Sad. Let's talk about something else.

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whose son is right now trying to decide whether to enlist in the Army or AF, because the only work he's been able to find since graduating h.s. this spring is 10 hours/week at Taco Bell - and his step-father is not at all keen on continuing paying any more of his bills (the parents, both of whom work full-time, have two much younger children of their own).

I suppose he could just hit the road, but he has no vehicle and hitch-hiking is even more illegal hereabouts than being a vagrant (also at least a few nights jail-time plus fine illegal).

What would you recommend he do? I've not been keen on his enlisting, but have told his mother he's probably less likely to get shot at in the AF and might get more useful training.

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Only connect. - E.M. Forster

Is he in a union state? If so, he might inquire about an apprenticeship program with a union in the building trades.

Also to be considered is an entry job in health care - nursing assistant training for example.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

a "right-to-work" state. His mother's full-time job as a home health aid at $9/hr, which she left working 30 hrs/week for $10/hr two months ago at Wal-Mart to get a better, more predictable schedule for her 8- and 12-year-old kids just had a meeting last Friday afternoon. The buzz was it would be a raise to $10/hr. Nope - big (white male) boss man announced his company was losing too much money, so starting Oct. 1, all jobs are 20 hours a week or less, still at $9/hr.

She told me the older workers in their 40s and 50s walked out of the meeting then no one showed at all in one of the counties on Monday, leaving those working trying to cover (but *no one ever* gets more than 40 hours or earns over-time). On Tuesday, the company was advertising in the local daily for part-time workers, experience preferred, not required.

Times are *tough*, people. All I could tell her, more than once, is "I'm sorry."

Thanks for your suggestions, though.

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Only connect. - E.M. Forster

Not only does the state of Mississippi not support its wage earners - and those that want to be wage earners - but actively works against them by a regressive tax system and allowing the schools, public hospitals, and water systems to fall into what seems to be terminal disrepair.

(I grew up with family members who were union longshoremen, union electricians, and National Maritime Union - I spoke from that perspective and it's clearly inappropriate to the situation in the deep south - I am sorry also)

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all on his own and behind my back, then brought me one morning all the material that the recruiter (who wanted him for the Army) had given him to convince that he can be a soldiers AND get an education at the same time. He was already much older than the regular recruits and it was basically the last year he could have enlisted. The educational part might be true, if they are not employed into wars. I was a bit shocked, but knew I had no influence on him anymore.

My son then studied the material from the AF and obviously believed that their educational offers were a little bit better. I had a colleague (German woman) married to an Afro-American police officer in Baltimore. Her son grew up in the US with her and his father. He did well in school and well in an educational program through the AF. Something to do with Bio-chemical lab work. Have forgotten.

My son didn't test well enough to get into some training programs that might have helped him better after he finished his contract. It was also hard for him to get security clearance, because of his father. But what the heck. He had been broken and lost his self-confidence way before as a child, so I don't blame him not finding another solution than the military. He himself says whatever he had learned in life, he doesn't regret it. He also got of course the "hecate" treatment from lots of folks in HI, where he escaped to. All I know is that those who pump out moral blame to Veterans don't know that they hurt, at least in the beginning. Until they don't care anymore and ignore it.

I can't give any advice. And btw. being in the AF and in the engineering squadron and more involved with logistics and construction didn't mean a thing when it came to war zones and getting involved in combat moments.

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Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

Au contraire, mon frere.

There is, shall we say, an economic draft.

But there's a name for this practice of avoiding a traditional draft. It's called a poverty draft. Because people tend not to want to participate in wars, those who have other career options tend to choose those other options. Those who see the military as one of their only choices, their only shot at a college education, or their only way to escape their troubled lives are more likely to enlist.

Have a look; it's a good article: http://www.alternet.org/story/149165/how_the_pentagon_turns_working-clas...

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

ArizonaProgressive's picture

it being an economic draft. Just take a look at where the recruiting stations are in any city, and who the military spends their time recruiting. A 19-year-old with a pregnant girlfriend, no money, little education, no job prospects or hope for the future, is promised housing, medical insurance and food for his new family. Hardly a "choice." There are certainly a few who truly "volunteer", but they are not the target of military recruiters.

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Can you really blame those, who enlist in the US military, because there are no other choices to make a living for them?

An exercise German politicians — fearing foreign opinion or outcry? — feel compelled to go through with, as if it were hugely significant evidence of their post-war morality and virtue.

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a pretty hollow argument. That's asserting that it's okay for there to be dead non-Americans, so that Americans can have some money.

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I'm sure few of those soldiers from the bottom three economic percentiles think to themselves "I'm sure glad there are no jobs in Saginaw and that my father's health is broken from 25 years of manual labor and is an invalid whose ability to NOT be homeless depends on me providing for AT LEAST myself, and hopefully throwing some bucks his way too. I'm really glad the military is my only viable option! And it's really handy that the world is full of non-Americans that it's OK to kill, so that I can make some money that can keep my broken-backed father in food and rent!"

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

War is rich old men protecting their property by sending middle class and lower class young men off to die. It always has been.--George Carlin

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Big Al's picture

I wrote a diary a good number of years ago about how I was one of those who had little choice. I actually did but barely and I needed some structure. Of course I didn't know then what I know now. But even so, am I blameless for joining a murderous imperialist military machine because I was ignorant?

It's like with cops. We've got a literal militarized police state now with cops who think nothing of beating protesters, killing people who had a burnt out tail light, or tasing 80 year old women if they don't obey them. Not all are like that, we all know that. But at what point do they all become just part of a unequal, corrupt and violent single system and therefore they're all the same no matter how many teddy bears some of them hand out?

I'm certainly an advocate of holding those accountable at the top responsible for the overall situations and for their major crimes, but when do we say it's not OK to become an Executioner no matter how desperate you might be? Maybe to end it we need to hold everyone accountable.

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I know who set this game up, and my eyes are firmly on them.

Who decides that the workday is 9 to 5 instead of 11 to 4?
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJT5XBT6oRM]

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

parties to agree on a contract. Both parties are to blame if violent and dishonest cops are not brought to account. There's the elected officials on the one hand who agree to some of these sections in contracts that can be used to shield illegal behavior and there's the layers of management and supervision within the police department who lack the ability and will to go after cops who refuse to follow their training.

Many states do not allow public employees to form unions and have contracts. To call officers in Virginia,say, unionized is wrong: No locality has the ability to enter into a contract with a group of public employees. This is common in right-to-work states. In the absence of a contract, the onus falls mainly on the elected officials who oversee the police and hire the top management as well as the officers themselves.

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"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"

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I don't see it happening (the rejection of going into the military, that is).

Many problems need to be addressed in order to achieve this--including those of economic opportunity.

As I posted over two years ago, our own Labor Dept has reported that almost 2/3's of the jobs created in the next couple of decades will be low paying service sector jobs. With very few, or no benefits.

And, as the recently appointed Military Commission hearings demonstrated--military 'jobs' considerably out pace private sector jobs, regarding both pay and benefits.

(This was not always the case. Many of us took a considerable pay cut considering educational attainment by going Civil Service in the 70's. The rationale was that some of this was offset by the exceptional menu of 'benefits.')

Now, instead of working to raise the floor on private sectors jobs, our neoliberal overlord's ideology dictates that the 'even things out' by destroying the pay and benefits of federal employees, which we've witnessed repeatedly during this Administration.

It's also the reason that GWB, PBO, and FSC are all pushing supporting free Community College education--2/3's of the jobs being created will not require education beyond one to two years beyond high school. Which is also one reason that I'm apt to believe that our lawmakers won't pass a bill (anytime soon) that widely pays for a 4-year college degree--the PtB's own Labor Department has determined that the jobs that require a bachelor's or higher, won't exist in large numbers in the next couple of decades.

I'm in agreement with you that it should be our objective to discourage folks from joining the military. But to do so, there's gonna need to be another option offered folks--aside from taking an increasingly low paying private sector job.

Since Dems didn't pass the proposed $10.10 increase in the minimum wage when they had both Chambers and the WH, it's hard for me to imagine that on a federal level, we'll see much action regarding a sizable federal minimum wage increase--if FSC is elected. (With or without the Senate, being in Dems' hands.) Time will tell, I suppose.

Mollie


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Update: Misty May has been adopted. Yeah!

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Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.

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military or the private prison industry as an administration's only job programs.

We also need to reacquaint the American public with the horrors of war. Not only do we not see the casualties of our military actions, we must be fighting a totally casualty-free war on our end, because we sure don't see an of that troublesome stuff anymore, do we? Troublesome as in the dead coming into Dover.

I wonder, does anyone here know the casualty numbers for our adventures in the ME since whatever we have going in Afghanistan was initiated? I don't. Which is SHAME on me. But I (we) sure knew the latest casualty numbers during Vietnam while keeping up with the draft lottery's monthly 'winning' numbers picked from those that didn't want to go but HAD to.

http://icasualties.org/

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUzd9KyIDrM]

As for the reasons that "they" are "still funneling their children into the militaries."

As for Veruca and the Rodeo Clown, it's pretty obvious why she is the nominee, and it ain't much to do with the will of the populace.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

should not have control over everything--if for no other reason than that they tend to make persistently terrible decisions. Everyone on the planet should have at least some say in the decisions that run and often ruin our lives. There needs to be a politics that facilitates that, rather than smothering it.

How about we start with that. We can start with democracy.

As for other goals, I could give you a list as long as my arm, but it could start with:

II. An end to poverty
III. A habitable planet
IV. Dismantling the police state
V. Eliminating the power of weapons manufacturers over the government. This war=profit has to stop.

Or, if you want it put in positive terms:

II. A guaranteed minimum income
III. A habitable planet (this includes clean water and arable soil to produce the food)
IV. Guaranteed basic rights--which could, of course, begin with the Bill of Rights as a good starting point.
V. Peace.

There.
Now, as Joel Robinson once said:

Joel: Hi everybody, welcome to the Satellite of Love. I'm Joel Robinson... Oh, look, here comes Tom Servo... Crow T. Robot.
Crow: Hello.
Servo: Evening.
Joel: Hey, come on up here, you guys. I wanna show you this toothpick sculpture I've been working on for the last three years.
Servo: You've been working three years on that?
Joel: Yeah, on nights and weekends.
Crow: It's not very good.
Servo: Shh!
Crow: Uh, I mean, what is it?
Joel: It's a scale reproduction model of Monticello rendered in toothpick. I got the idea off the nickel, see?
Servo: It's beautiful. Where'd you get all the toothpicks?
Joel: What, are you kidding? We're on a spaceship; this place is crawling with toothpicks.
Crow: Well, it really is cool, Joel. Of course, you know we'll have to break it.
Servo: It's nothing personal, you understand, it's just a thing we have to do.

Joel: Okay.
Crow and Servo: Huh?
Joel: Sure, go ahead, that's why I made it, smash away.
Servo: No, no, Joel, you're ruining it for me!
Crow: Yeah, I feel dirty.
Magic Voice: Commercial Sign in five seconds.
Joel: It sure seems like a waste being toothpicky and fragile and all...
Magic Voice: Commercial Sign now.
Joel: I'm just going to leave it here... unattended... to dry... Uh, we'll be right back.
Crow and Servo: Aaaaaah!!! Ha-haaaaaaaaaa!!! Flame her!!!

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

or oligarchy vs something farther left than democracy

and four subsidiary issues, which include 3 of the famous 4 mentioned in JFK's inaugural:

Poverty, Tyranny, Disease, and War itself.

Substitute "ecological collapse" for "disease," and you're pretty much there.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

just as well to ask what we're here for. Tends to get lost in the day-to-day, and pretty soon one's got nothing but a bunch of assumptions.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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a tipping point. What will it be? I don't get into the minutiae fights here because they are a distraction from what we could be doing - organizing into a cohesive group to up-end the oligarchy. It has to start somewhere - Bernie brought it out into the sunshine, it is now up to us to carry the chant forward - enough is enough - and bring change to fruition. I touted this meme at TOP - much to the chagrin of many, who thought I was from outer space. However, it must come from the people; the 99%, as it will never come from the 1%.

If not us, how? If not now, when?

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

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I think we need to concentrate. If everyone knew what was going on, Jill would be our next President. Instead we'll be happy if she gets 5%.

Some sort of coalition of independent media seems like one decent plan, but people don't find us if they don't look, and who knows what Google will end up doing about searches even if they do look.

What about nonprofit local newspapers in every city owned by the writers? Given how crappy the corporate offerings are, it seems we could provide serious news and humor and win the local newspaper wars. Funding one small local paper would probably be very doable, but multiply by every location and I'm not so sure, although it would provide a venue for those local small businesses discussed upthread.

My paper doesn't even bother sending me the morning's news in my email until the afternoon, and here were headlines from yesterday's front page (top to bottom, left to right):

What's 101 feet long and was designed on a beer carton?
EKU artist's long weekend by the numbers: 3 days, 151 Pokémon
Jewish Student Center opens on UK's campus
Drug dealer tied to Knott double killing seeks to set aside his prison sentence
Sports: No more "fragile mentalities"
Sports: Same old Cincy stumbling block
Gray unveils his jobs plan

Srsly. The Jewish Student Center was the big news if you judge by how much of the page it took up. With one hand tied behind our backs, we could do better than this.

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joe shikspack's picture

well, we have a blog. we have friends with blogs and faceboob pages, twitter accounts, etc.

we have clever people who write well, can do graphics, create memes and have an assortment of other new and old media skills.

we could put something together and try to make some noise. perhaps we could come up with an agenda that we all pretty much agree on and then try to get other people interested in it.

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Wherever you live you can find a local activist group that needs your help. I'm working/networking with LACAN and Pacifica Radio. I have also been a participant in The Skid Row Neighborhood Council Formation Committee to give Skid Row a seat at the L.A. political table.

Here's a short video of the set up for LACAN's Labor Day block party:

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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn

moneysmith's picture

Your networking and street fair -- awesome!! And funny you mentioned this today. Doing more locally is the same thought I had at 3 am last night. Unlike most of the 3 am brainstorms, this one actually makes sense.

My little community is hurting. Maybe I flatter myself, but I think I could help change that in some small way. So I'm going to do some research and see what the possibilities are. I've volunteered to work on literacy locally, but I'm sure there's more to be done.

Thanks for posting this. Good to run into like minds here.

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Hell is empty and all the devils are here. William Shakespeare

The repubs have spent the last decade delegitimizing Obama because he is part African American. The primary has delegitimized Hillary because of all the irregularities in the primary. Trump is putting that out on the table so that any win Hill gets will be tainted.

And this in turn is delegitimizing democracy. We can take no pleasure in any election from now on knowing how easy it is to manipulate.

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Gerrit's picture

read your stuff again after a summer break.

Politics is a great time-waster these days. Any politics above municipal level is completely useless and a waste of time and energy. "What is it good for?" Like war, "absolutely nothing." Folks, consider the opportunity cost of wasting your life energy on this election. Instead of faffing on about the inside baseball of an election completely outside of your control, you could rather post on practical action at ground level, near where you live. I'd actually read such posts - with great attention :=)

Cheers, joe, good to see you again, mate. w00t!

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Resilience: practical action to improve things we can control.
3D+: developing language for postmodern spirituality.

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great to see you! glad that you're back.

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For building on what we have to create a new, democratic internet that can become a reflection of a real, democratic World.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

MarilynW's picture

The 1% have made a mockery of the US election on a global stage. There are two puppets dancing for first place in the White House. My mind is on climate change and the destruction of the Middle East and its people, famine in Africa - the world can't afford to spend much time on this puppet show. Life on earth is at stake.

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To thine own self be true.

If the Green Party gets 15% of the popular vote in polling, that will mean inclusion in the Presidential debates. If the Green Party gets even 5% of the popular vote, that will be an important statement to all of America and could also mean, for 2020, easier ballot access, possibly federal matching funds, more news coverage, easier fundraising, etc. Also, Bernie's run will be seen the only possibly reason for any significant increase in 2016 from the share of the popular vote that Stein got in 2012, which was .36%.

If the Green Party actually somehow costs Hillary the election, there will be some kind of political earthquake, in my opinion, but I am not sure what it will be.

So, voting is important though Thing One or Thing Two will win.

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joe shikspack's picture

i will be voting green again and i hope that stein continues to improve in the polls and gets into the presidential beauty contest debates.

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2020 and strengthening the concept of a left of center party other than the Democratic Party. I am not sure if the Green Party is my "forever home," but for 2016, it's the only pebble on the beach. So, I will give that whatever legitimacy my one vote can give it.

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shaharazade's picture

you summed up the reality we find ourselves in nicely. It's often easier to fight the devil we have been told is the enemy via our totally wrecked electoral system. Divide and conquer and playing their duplicitous political game just isn't going to do a damn thing but make this nightmare even more entrenched. The nature of this deadly game is becoming more and more obvious to all ordinary people. Us includes all of us not just so called 'progressive's'. The fear of other is diminishing with every obvious move they make. When they bring out the bulldozers and start demolishing the land and communities to move people out of the way I believe that more and more of us will say enough is enough. What to do? Solidarity is essential and so are random acts of civil disobedience. Fighting over the pols and their intentions be they Bernie or Trump and Hillary is a big waste of time and keeps the power right where they want it. FDR had a good point about fear.

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RantingRooster's picture

These are the people that worry me (party loyalist)
[video:https://youtu.be/6NcLNoxiPBk]

We need to be aware of "The Leader of the Coming Revolution"
[video:https://youtu.be/9DxvBjevpGg]

But of course there's this "Revolution: An Instruction Manual"
[video:https://youtu.be/8Zq4f6WYmHU]

(take what you like, compost the rest....I don't necessarily agree with everything in these videos, but they do have some valid points!)

We live in Wacko times....

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C99, my refuge from an insane world. #ForceTheVote

joe shikspack's picture

thanks for the vids. there are some worthy points made, but i wonder why they chose the dark music and apocalyptic tone. it seems to me that if you are selling revolution door to door, you might want to present a different picture of the opportunities your revolution affords.

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Lenzabi's picture

Let us as a people break the minds of the Oligarchs. Let us see 3rd party players (Jill Stein is my choice), and see their puppets out in the cold for once if we want any chance at real change. She scares them, the smears by the Corporate owned MSM have been there from the start which says a LOT of how much they fear her getting elected over Hillary and Trump.

So, elect someone not of their choosing and watch their heads implode.

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So long, and thanks for all the fish

janis b's picture

Thank you for always putting things in perspective.

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joe shikspack's picture

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