Monday Open Thread; December 4 is National Cookie Day


December 4 is the 338th day of the year, there are 27 days left
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Today's number is 4

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4 is the second squared number
4 is the smallest squared prime
4 is the only even squared prime
4 is both 2 doubled and 2 squared. It is the only number that is both 2x & x squared.
A number is divisible by 4 if its last two digits are divisible by 4. For example 1632 is divisible by 4 because 32 is divisible by 4 (4 x 8 = 32)
A Tetrahedron has 4 sides and 4 vertices. It is the simplest Platonic solid.
4 is the first positive non-Fibonacci number
4 pops up quite frequently in religions, magik, divination & superstitions, 'nuff 'bout that.
4 is beryllium

The four states of matter are: solid, liquid, gas, and plasma.
There are four fundamental forces (electromagnetism, gravitation, the weak nuclear force, and the strong nuclear force).
There are 4 forms in the logical "square of Opposition": A ("All S is R"), I ("Some S is R"), E ("No S is R"), and O ("Some S is not R")
It takes 4 Supreme Court Justices to grant a writ of cert.
There were 4 classical Greek elements (earth, water, air & fire)
There are 4 seasons
There are 4 suits in a standard deck of playing cards
There are 4 horsemen of the Apocalypes, plus Basement Cat.

A 4 banger is a 4 cylinder engine
A "Four in hand" is a knot used in tying men's neckties

There were 4 Lads

and then 4 Tops

And then 4 Non Blondes

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Title 4 of the US Code is FLAG AND SEAL, SEAT OF GOVERNMENT, AND THE STATES (sounds like misc. to me)

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4 BCE
was the Year of the Consulship of Sabinus and Rufus
Herod the Great died
Publius Quintilius Varus, then Governor of Syria (YES, that damn Varus again), took three of his four legions from Antioch to Jerusalem to restore order and crucified 2,000 Jewish rebels.
Seneca the Younger, a Roman Stoic philosopher, statesman, and dramatist was born

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4 CE
was the Year of the Consulship of Catus and Saturninus
Augustus adopted Tiberius to be his heir.

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On this day in:

1619 -- Thirty-eight colonists arrived at Berkeley Hundred, Virginia.
1674 -- Father Jacques Marquette founded a mission on the shores of Lake Michigan that became ChiTown.
1786 -- Mission Santa Barbara was dedicated.
1829 -- Lord William Bentinck declared that anyone who abetted suttee in Bengal was guilty of culpable homicide.
1867 -- The Grange was founded
1872 -- The ship Mary Celeste was found crewless and adrift (much like today's US)
1881 -- The first edition of the L.A. Times was published
1943 -- Josip Broz Tito proclaimed a provisional democratic Yugoslav government in-exile.
1945 -- The Senate approved US participation in the UN
1954 -- The first Burger King opened (in Miami). Arteries began clogging
1965 -- The Grateful Dead's first concert under that name
1969 -- Fred Hampton and Mark Clark were murdered by Chicago police
1978 -- DiFi became SF's first female mayor.
1982 -- China adopted its current constitution.
1984 -- Sri Lankan soldiers killed 107-150 civilians in Mannar.
1991 -- Pan American ceased operations
1992 -- George H. W. Bush ordered 28,000 U.S. troops to Somalia

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Born this day in:

1660 -- Andre Campra, composer
1667 -- Michel Pignolet de Monteclair, composer
1777 -- Juliette Recamier, businesswoman and influential socialite
1795 -- Thomas Carlyle, historian and philosopher
1865 -- Edith Cavell, nurse
1866 -- Wassily Kandinsky, painter
1875 -- Rainer Maria Rilke, poet and author
1892 -- Francisco Franco, fascist dictator beloved of the US government
1897 -- Robert Redfield, anthropologist
1908 -- Alfred Hershey, bacteriologist and geneticist
1910 -- Alex North, composer
1915 -- Eddie Heywood, pianist and composer
1920 -- Jeanne Manford, activist, co-founded PFLAG
1921 -- Deanna Durbin, actress and singer
1923 -- Charles Keating, narrow-minded, pious, crook and fraudster
1930 -- Jim Hall, guitarist, composer and arranger
1939 -- Freddy Cannon, Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon, singer and guitarist
1942 -- Bob Mosley, singer, songwriter, bass player and grape
1944 -- Chris Hillman, singer, songwriter, guitarist, mandolin player
1944 -- Anna McGarrigle, singer, songwriter and musician
1944 -- Dennis Wilson, the only Beach Boy who surfed, drummer, singer, songwriter
1948 -- Southside Johnny, singer and songwriter
1950 -- Bjorn Kjellemyr, bassist and composer
1951 -- Gary Rossington, guitarist
1955 -- Cassandra Wilson, singer, songwriter and producer
1966 -- Andy Hess, bass player
1968 -- Dionne Farris, singer, songwriter, producer, actress
1973 -- Kate Rusby, singer, songwriter, guitarist
1978 -- Jaclyn Victor, singer

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Died this day in:

530 BC -- Cyrus the Great, king of Persia
1131 -- Omar Khayyam, poet, astronomer, mathematician, and philosopher
1798 -- Luigi Galvani, physician, physicist, philosopher
1850 -- William Sturgeon, physicist who invented the electric motor
1935 -- Johan Halvorsen, violinist, composer, and conductor
1976 -- Tommy Bolin, guitarist and songwriter
1993 -- Frank Zappa, singer, songwriter, guitarist, producer Don't Miss His BOLERO below.
2009 -- Liam Clancy, singer, actor, and guitarist
2011 -- Hubert Sumlin, singer and guitarist

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Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days and such:
Cookie Day! maybe that's pronounced kookie

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So, for music,
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Virginia colonists

Father Jacques Marquette

Santa Barbara

The Grateful Dead

Fred Hampton

George H. W. Bush

Andre Campra

Michel Pignolet de Monteclair

Eddie Heywood

Jim Hall

Freddy Cannon

Bob Mosley

Chris Hillman

Dennis Wilson - A song expressing the quintessence of critical thought in the US -

Southside Johnny

Bjorn Kjellemyr

Gary Rossington

Cassandra Wilson

Andy Hess

Dionne Farris

Johan Halvorsen

Timmy Bolin

Frank Zappa

Liam Clancy

Hubert Sumlin

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Bonus:

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very early Dead

y before that, tambien

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Gots to have ZAPPA

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picture is "RECALLED - Cookies", by FDA -- US Government Work

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Lookout's picture

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQE0LQFFn3s]

Thanks for the music and OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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@Lookout
I shall have to try to make or obtain a cookie sometime today, though we're still working on an apple cake I made the other day. Perhaps I'll make amaretti this afternoon.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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feature a wooden recorder? Your day is always brightening. Bone broth with sel et poivre chez moi. Must try with Szechuan pepper.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

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@riverlover
Perhaps the recorder was deemed to be a subset of flute? Your repast sounds wonderful, though I, being a carb junkie, would fill it with spatzele or hand rolled sourdough noodles.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Arrow's picture

Man those were FUNKY times everybody was getting down.

A short comment about last evenings 'what Americans belive' discussion.
All hail our lizard people loverlords!

Here is an artists renidion of what they look like from knowlegeable sources(the artist himself)

Word has it he was going to distroy Earth but his wife nagged him out of it.

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I want a Pony!

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@Arrow . I'll learn how to put in pictures properly.

If you have lizard people overlords - You need a tee shirt.

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I want a Pony!

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@Arrow
and placement of your graphics. Perhaps I need to look into that - I just paste them in there.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

@Arrow This makes me laugh every time I see it!

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O.k. When is the next meeting for the revolution?
-FuturePassed on Sunday, November 25, 2018 10:22 p.m.

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@WIProgressive

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@Arrow
sit here baffled as to why Ms lizard would save the earth. Perhaps a crush on John McCain?

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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According to Alexa just now, in the U.S. c99 ranks 123,392 and Hillary-backer Peter Daou’s propaganda vehicle Verrit, despite big-bucks backing and HER’s endorsement, only ranks 212,736.

https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/caucus99percent.com
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/verrit.com

Oddly enough, global rankings are reversed: 118,856 for Verrit, but only 844,931 for c99. How does that come about? Preponderance of interest in Hillary talking points lies outside the U.S.?

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@lotlizard @lotlizard
conclusion. It was HER turn, and HER had HER turn. Next HER (endlessly) told HER tale of woe and betrayal and pointer HER fingers at those she blames for HER loss. HER still has HER following (it's yuuuuuge) and HER influence (ditto), but, quite frankly, it's long past becoming tedious.

HER bankster and FIRE cronies, and the MIC might not be up to staving off the collapse of the US empire and, frankly, a decent ethical human should root for that collapse. HER relevance is as an obstacle only, and hopefully will fade.

Interesting article on the instabilities in our financial/economic imperialism in CounterPunch: https://www.counterpunch.org/2017/11/29/monetary-imperialism/. I've been watching the noises out of China/BRICS about a substitute currency, and really don't see us as ready to send the marines to all of Eastasia in order to stop it. When the bottom falls out, those on the bottom fall less far, and their oppressors often fight among themselves over the limited supply of exploitables. Global pain is not a good thing, but it might be fun to watch the US elites get their comeuppance.

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@lotlizard

All independent sites with views similar to ours can increase their standing by massive cross-linking with each other. That's what the google algorithm looks for, collections of interlinking sites.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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@Timmethy2.0
parrot the approved narrative and, worse yet, permitting folks to actually challenge and question the approved narrative.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

As always, you make me both think and smile. And remind me that "Math is hard," at least for me.

If I'm honest, I never thought Herod was all that great. However, he and his heir (his heir being the Herod of Biblical infamy) were into big building projects, so I assume they created jobs. One can only hope they were paying jobs, rather than more work for slaves. Probably both, I guess. Ugh.

In numerology, four is the number of hard work and some other things to which I don't aspire. Much of numerology interpretation focuses on only numbers from 1 to 9. So, numbers consisting of two or more digits are added to reduce them to a number from 1 to 9. Consequently, some speculate that the number 13 got such a bad reputation because 1 + 3 equals 4. That never made much sense to me, but I thought I'd mention it.

I appreciate the four seasons and am sorry to see them blending into each other.

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@HenryAWallace A prime and surrounded by multipliers and multiples. No upvoting for me, rumdum phone co again. Life is but a dream.

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@riverlover

Numerology reduces 23 to 5, a number of adventure and change. As all change and adventure is not positive, that has its upsides and its downsides. The same is true of all the numbers. Numerology, about which I have only the most superficial knowledge, however, has to do with the letters in your name, each of which gets assigned a number from 1 to 9, starting with A as 1, the numbers in your date and year of birth, etc. and not with your favorite or "lucky" numbers.

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@HenryAWallace
There are, for starts, many differing numerologies, though 4 does seem to get good press across the board. Nonetheless, a rectangle, under stress, readily deforms into a rhomboid. A triangle is far sturdier.

The method of adding digits to reduce to a numeral less than ten is somewhat equivalent to working modulo nine -- 15 - 9 = 4, just FWIW. That process surfaces in a great number of places and activities.

Having been raised in SoCal, I grew up generally unfamiliar with the seasons. Now I have a greater awareness and understanding, but I'm not sure that I have that much fondness, except that I need to wait for certain seasons before I can harvest certain crops.

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@enhydra lutris

addressing you as EH, rather than as EL. I've done that more than once. This morning, I was telling myself the entire time I typed my post to get your initials right and I still got them wrong! I've now fixed my earlier post.

First, please note: Everything I've said on this thread about numerology is über oversimplified. I was never seriously into numerology. A friend once gifted me with a numerology book. I played around with family and friends for fun, but that was about it. And I haven't done even that in years.

Four is very good in numerology if your work address or phone number reduces to 4, but not for all purposes. I never knew what to do with phone numbers anyway. Should I or should I not factor in the area code and/or the 1 that we must dial before entering the area code. ¿Quién sabe?

Three, the number of sides in a triangle, is about sociability, joining groups, etc.

The method of adding digits to reduce to a numeral less than ten is somewhat equivalent to working modulo nine -- 15 - 9 = 4, just FWIW. That process surfaces in a great number of places and activities.

In numerology, 15-9 would be 6, much as it is in mundane math. In numerology, six is a number of marriage and home. You might thing that would be 8, which, of all the numbers between 1 and 9 looks most like a couple, but 8 is money.

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@HenryAWallace
13 - 9 = 4.

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@HenryAWallace

Not 41 or 43 but 42, according to Hitchhikers Guide To the Galaxy.

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Beware the bullshit factories.

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@Timmethy2.0
Gallons in a barrel of oil, it would be something else in the metric system.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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@Timmethy2.0 I have no ideas about the meaning of life or the meaning of the universe. In numerology, however, 42 would reduce to 6, which is a number of home, family, marriage--more stability, for example, than 5, which represents change and adventure.

But don't take my word for anything. I am about as far from an expert as one can be.

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he's here to roll back the areas of Bears Ears and the Grand Staircase national monuments. Bears Ears is to be rolled back by 85%.
MAGA! Yipee doodah!

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.