11/03 Open Thread - Prime Meridian Day

The Prime Meridian is both a thing and a concept.  The word  Prime has a vast number of usages as a noun, verb and adjective - for example there are prime numbers, prime rib, prime cuts of meat, one can prime a surface for painting, prime a well and prime certain antique weapons and there is the concept of a Prime Meridian.  Da Wiki tells us that:
In geography and geodesy, a meridian is the locus connecting points of equal longitude, which is the angle (in degrees or other units) east or west of a given prime meridian (currently, the IERS Reference Meridian). In other words, it is a coordinate line for longitudes, a line of longitude.
, which gets us a bit ahead of out story and is very much earth centric.  The "celestial sphere", the moon, all of the planets and all of their moons also have meridians as well as their own "Prime meridians".  Generally, then, a meridian is an ellipse (including a circle) that runs through both poles of a planet or moon.  A prime meridian is an arbitrary meeridian selected and designated as such in order that it may be used as a reference arc for specifying locations and navigating.
The wiki on "meridian" cited above tells us that Eratosthenes invented the first Prime Meridian back in 200 BCE.  He did many things, and may have invented the concept for his local culture but that is pretty late in the day for anybody to be the first to use such a concept and the wiki for Prime meridian contradicts this assertion.   It notes a fourth century CE Indian astronomical treatise which described the thousands of years old customs of the prime meridian, or zero longitude, as passing through a couple of specific locations.  It seems reasonable to assume that many or most peoples who engaged in significant amounts of journeying developed somewhat similar systems for identifying where they were and where they were going.  We know that many such meridians were specified by various countries and others over the ages including the monstrously evil Tordesillas line blessed by Pope Julius II who signed off on it on January 24, 1506.  
Since the whole point is all about navigation, sea faring nations and England in particular took a great interest in the matter.  In the later 1700s and early 1800s, the UK Royal Astronomer, one Nevil Maskelyne began cranking out issues of The Nautical Almanac and Astronomical Ephemeris for use in navigating.  These, naturally, took the meridian of The Royal Observatory, Greenwich as the base or prime meridian.  These, and hence that meridian, became the standard, even in France.  As a result, a conference in 1884 made it official that the Greenwich (pronounced grenitch) meridian would be used as the prime meridian.  However, stuff like that cannot long stand.  Just as Greenwich Mean Time (GMT) became   Coordinated Universal Time (UTC - don't ask me why), the zero merician could not stay Greenwich.  It was replaced with the IERS Reference Meridian further abbreviated the IRM 100 years after being adopted.  This new standard is not just a rename, but was newly determined using lasers and satellites, oh my (W00t!) and is now 102 meters east of where it was.  I mean, that is just sooo cool, and, while it is nice to have blisteringly precise tech, the damn imaginary line is, as noted above, fookin' arbitrary, but, whatever.  Next time they move it I suggest that they run it through the bandstand in the Plaza Republica in Mazatlan, or maybe somewhere in Vera Cruz
On this day in history:
1493 – Christopher Columbus first sighted the island of Dominica
1534 – The English Parliament passed the first Act of Supremacy, making King Henry VIII head of the Anglican Church
(died 65)
1783 – The American Continental Army was disbanded.  Please don't tell Donald J Trump.
1793 – French playwright, journalist and feminist Olympe de Gouges was guillotined.
1817 – The Bank of Montreal, Canada's oldest chartered bank, opened 
1838 – The Times of India, was founded as The Bombay Times and Journal of Commerce.
1848 – A greatly revised Dutch constitution, which transferred much authority from the king to his parliament and ministers, was proclaimed.
1868 – John Willis Menard (R-LA) was the first African American elected to the United States Congress. Because of an electoral challenge, he was never seated.  Odd how that worked 
1903 – Encouraged bythe United States, Panama separated from Colombia, but not the US.
1920 – The Russian Army retreated to Crimea, after a successful offensive by the Red Army 
1929 – The Gwangju Student Independence Movement occurred.
1946 – The Constitution of Japan was adopted through Emperor's assent.
1956 – The Khan Yunis killings by the Israel Defense Forces in Egyptian-controlled Gaza resulted in the deaths of 275 Palestinians. 
1957 –The USSR launched Sputnik 2 carrying the dog Laika, the first animal to enter orbit
1961 – U Thant was unanimously appointed to be the 3rd Secretary-General of the United Nations 
   
1973 – NASA launched Mariner 10 toward Mercury.
1979 – Five members of the Communist Workers Party were shot dead and seven were wounded by a group of Klansmen and neo-Nazis 
1986 – The Lebanese magazine Ash-Shiraa reported that the US had been secretly selling weapons to Iran
1986 – The Compact of Free Association became law granting the Federated States of Micronesia and the Marshall Islands independence from the United States.
2014 – One World Trade Center officially opened in New York City, 
Some people who were born on this day:  
He who sees the truth, let him proclaim it, without asking who is for it or who is against it.
~~      Henry George
AD 39 – Lucan,  poet 
1500 – Benvenuto Cellini, sculptor and painter 
1505 – Achilles Gasser,  physician and astrologer 
1560 – Annibale Carracci,  painter and illustrator 
1587 – Samuel Scheidt,  organist, composer, and educator 
1656 – Georg Reutter,  organist and composer
1689 – Jan Josef Ignác Brentner,  composer 
1749 – Daniel Rutherford,  chemist and physician
1793 – Stephen F. Austin,  businessman and politician 
1794 – William Cullen Bryant,  poet and journalist 
1801 – Vincenzo Bellini, composer 
1815 – John Mitchel,  journalist and activist 
1854 – Carlo Fornasini,  micropalaeontologist 
1862 – Henry George,   journalist and politician 
1877 – Rosalie Edge,  environmentalist 
1878 – Bangalore Nagarathnamma,  Carnatic singer and activist 
1901 – André Malraux,  historian, theorist, and author
1909 – James Reston,  journalist and author 
1917 – Annapurna Maharana,  activist 
1918 – Elizabeth P. Hoisington,  general 
1918 – Russell B. Long, lieutenant, lawyer, and politician, helped LBJ with War on Poverty
1930 – Mable John,  blues singer 
1930 – Tsutomu Seki, astronomer and academic
1933 – John Barry,  composer and conductor 
1933 – Ken Berry,  actor, singer, and dancer 
1940 – Sonny Rhodes,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist 
1943 – Bert Jansch,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1945 – Nick Simper,  bass guitarist
1948 – Lulu,  singer, songwriter, and actress
1951 – Ed Murawinski,  cartoonist
1953 – Helios Creed,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1954 – Adam Ant,  singer, songwriter, and actor
1955 – Teresa De Sio,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1956 – Chrystian,  sertanejo singer 
1960 – Ian McNabb,  singer, songwriter, and musician
1967 – Mark Roberts,  singer and guitarist
1967 – Steven Wilson, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
1973 – Mick Thomson,  guitarist
1976 – Jake Shimabukuro,  ukulele player and composer
1978 – Tim McIlrath,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist
1978 – Jonas Howden Sjøvaag,  drummer
1983 – Myrna Braza,  singer and songwriter
1987 – Courtney Barnett, singerm songwriter, and guitarist
1989 – Paula DeAnda,  singer, songwriter, and actress
1989 – Joyce Jonathan,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist
Some people who died on this day: 
I don't ever want to grow up. That's boring.
~~     Quincy Jones
1643 – John Bainbridge,  astronomer and academic 
1643 – Paul Guldin,  astronomer and mathematician 
1890 – Ulrich Ochsenbein,  lawyer and politician, 1st President of the Swiss National Council 
1933 – Pierre Paul Émile Roux,  physician, bacteriologist, and immunologist 
1939 – Charles Tournemire,  organist and composer 
1954 – Henri Matisse,  painter and sculptor 
1956 – Jean Metzinger,  artist, 
1980 – Caroline Mytinger,  painter and author 
1991 – Chris Bender,  singer 
1993 – Léon Theremin,  physicist and engineer, invented the Theremin 
1997 – Ronald Barnes,  carillon player and composer 
1998 – Bob Kane,  author and illustrator, co-created Batman 
2002 – Lonnie Donegan,  singer, songwriter, and guitarist 
2006 – Paul Mauriat,  pianist, composer, and conductor 
2012 – Carmélia Alves,  singer 
2016 – Kay Starr, singer 
2024 – Quincy Jones,  producer 
Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:  
National Bison Day
National Cinnamon Day
National Wine Tasting Day
Prime Meridian Day
Today's Tunes
Samuel Scheidt
Georg Reutter
Jan Josef Ignác Brentner
Vincenzo Bellini
Mable John
Sonny Rhodes
Bert Jansch
Nick Simper
Lulu
Teresa De Sio
Chrystian
Ian McNabb
Jake Shimabukuro
Jonas Howden Sjøvaag
Myrna Braza
Joyce Jonathan
Leon Theremin
Lonnie Donegan
Kay Starr
Quincy Jones
 Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now.  What's on your mind?
Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com
Open Thread, Prime Meridian, Laika, Mabel john, Lulu, Leon Theremin, Lonnie Donegan, Quincy Jones


Comments
More depravity
Alastair Crooke discusses the "scandal" in Israeli society:
Naughty little boys and girls, you see, must hide the worst of their genocides, and not show them to strangers. It would seem that Crooke is right to say that the Israelis think they have done nothing wrong, but only according to one part of what Doctor Freud would have called the Israeli "psyche." Das Über-Ich is quiet; das Es, on the other hand, reveals a serious problem.
Crooke also shares the reveal about Trump's loyalty to the Zionists -- it seems the Adelsons bailed him out at one point and thus the settlement of one of his bankruptcies was modified in his favor. So why do you need business smarts when you have Zionist billionaires on your side?
"PayPal is evil" -- Max Blumenthal
Good mornng Cass, thanks for the video. True enough
they not only think they have done no wrong, but in fact know that they have done a meritorious and holy thing because it is god's will.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
that is one warped god
.
which I guess explains the warped society
that are under their god's spell?
Zionism is a social disease
Hoping clear ideas
.
will prime my brain into useful
ideations at some point today
but it is Monday so not too expectant.
Thanks for the OT!
Zionism is a social disease
Good morning Cap'n Q. Mondays are somewhat
like that, even long after they no longer mark the beginning of "the work week" and "recovery" from the weekend's celebrations.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
remembrer as a youth
.
you did not want a car coming off the
assembly line on Mondays and Fridays
(as if they would tell you) as the cars
were prone to lemonish characteristics
A TU, WE or TH vehicle seemed to have fewer
basic defects for undisclosed reasons. Secret
union rules or some such. The tell was to open the
door or hood of two identical models, and if one was
sticky, or just fell off, it was probably a Monday.
Zionism is a social disease
Guess the author
.
.
... Long has paled that sunny sky:
Echoes fade and memories die.
Autumn frosts have slain July.
Still she haunts me, phantomwise,
Alice moving under skies
Never seen by waking eyes ...
... In a Wonderland the lie,
Dreaming as the days go by,
Dreaming as the summers die:
Ever drifting down the stream --
Lingereing in the golden gleam --
Life, what is it but a dream?
Zionism is a social disease
Heh, complicated and timely -
It is artfully excerpted from Carroll, and I suspect that the artist behind the artful excerpting is the author of the above comment.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
We have a winner!
.
Alice may have been the giveaway?
For your prize, a ticket to paradise
for an all inclusive stay in the resort
of your dreams. Certain restrictions apply.
Check with admin for details.
Zionism is a social disease
Hah! I know that poem by heart
or used to, anyway. It's a poetic acrostic, of which the fist letters in each line spell out "Alice Pleasance Liddell" (the original "Alice" for whom the stories were written).
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Hi maven
Interesting! although I don't know how these two lines fit?
Children yet, the tale to hear,
Eager eye and willing ear,
https://victorianweb.org/authors/carroll/zrd/12.htm
Good afternoon, el!
Hegseth, Miller, Rubio, and Noem, and others, have moved onto military bases due to personal threats. I don't think it would take much to set off civil unrest coast to coast.
We live in interesting times, dear friend.
Thanks for the OT.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
yeah, the funny bit
.
Tulsi wanted to bunker down too
but they refused her a stay at the inn.
Our leaders afraid of us? It is about time.
Zionism is a social disease
Tulsi is out of the loop and screwed.
On Oct. 31, she was announcing the US is completely over the regime change thing. Within hours, Trump announced we would overthrow the Venezuelan gummint, the "covert" CIA agents were already there, and troops moving into the vicinity.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good evning otc. Intresting times too, Thanks
for stopping by.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Hi el
Is it Clobe 1 or Globe 1?
Thank you el, for your Monday memories and music, expansive knowledge and quirkiness.
I am enjoying your music selection as I prepare some food, and have a much needed break from travel preparation.
Cheers
All these pieces were new and enjoyable to me.
The trio playing a composition by Samuel Scheidt
Teresa De Sio’s Italian reggae
Jake Shimabukuro’s sweet Hawaiian ukulele
Donegan's Scottish interpretation of, 'does your chewing gum lose its flavour …' was fun
Thanks again el