Backstory behind Trump MidEast Troop Withdrawals

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Not since the days of President John Kennedy has a U.S. President went up against the corrupt Foreign Policy Establishment, faced down their subversion of his policies and insubordination, and tried to truly wrest control away from the Elite Global Government planners and their Multinational Cartel structures (behind them and who had been calling all the shots).

Shown below is the backstory behind President Trump's struggle with the Foreign Policy Establishment and the circumstances surrounding his recent decisions to withdraw our U.S.Military forces from Syria (already announced), and to finally bring an end to the futile 16 year U.S. Occupation of Afghanistan (planning in the works).

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You won't ever hear these details from our (pro-War) U.S. "Fake News" Mainstream Media, who have been spinning the end of our illegal involvement in massively destablizing the Middle East as "Treason" and cause for Impeachment.

When illegal Wars End it becomes easy to tell who the bad guys were (and still are), and who the good guys are.

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To be continued.......

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The Elite Globalists policy has always been to overextend, bleed, and bankrupt our Country dry overseas while getting rid of our Nation's core infrastructure, local manufacturing, and borders - to absorb what is left of America into an authoritarian World Government control system.

The epic battle that is still unfolding is whether the United States will lose the struggle and will be transformed into 3rd World status (with low wages, high crime, no borders, no Sovereign control) run by their Global Cartels, or whether The United States will stand up and fight this off and remain an Independent Nation - with self-governance and remain a Sovereign Country.

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzOhnd9sBsM]

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The cure for 1984 (Orwell) is 1776 (Independence - "America First").

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@FreeSociety @FreeSociety
writings in defense of Trump's policy (and execution of that policy) are generally more coherent and articulate than anything that actually comes our way from Trump or any of the people who work for him?

I mean, I'd disagree with you even if that weren't true, but I wonder how you yourself make sense of this curious fact.

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The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.

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@UntimelyRippd

Does it trouble you at all that your various writings in defense of Trump's policy (and execution of that policy) are generally more coherent and articulate than anything that actually comes our way from Trump or any of the people who work for him?

FS is missing a bet. (S)He ought to hie over to Washington and get a job in the Press Secretary's office. Make the big bucks!

Wink

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

I doubt that anyone here will be fooled by your Republican propaganda into believing that Trump is for anyone but the 1%.
But I could be wrong.

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@gjohnsit the Koch Bros. 'Free Society' whining, this should come as a surprise to no one who has paid attention.

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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@gjohnsit

I doubt that anyone here will be fooled by your Republican propaganda into believing that Trump is for anyone but the 1%. But I could be wrong.

UntimelyRipped is right: Free Society's (FS) defenses of Trump's policies and actions are actually better than Republican propaganda. (S)He's missing a bet. (S)He ought to be taking this pro. Trump is able to pay very well indeed.

And Trump is only "for" one member of the 1%: Donald J. Trump. Smile

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

@gjohnsit

Trump is (quite obviously) going against the grain of the Global Elite's plan.

Trump's "America First" agenda is the diametric opposite of the New World Order Global Government subservient control system (run by Multinational Cartels under the control of the International Bankers).

And his focus on reviving native U.S. Manufacturing again quite obviously serves the interests of American workers and the local economy -- not the Global Elites and the 1%.

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@FreeSociety
Let's take the War of the Roses as an example.
The struggle between different factions of the ruling elite can be real, while still being irrelevant to members of the working class.

That's Trump v. enemies in a nutshell.

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@gjohnsit

You're way off.

  1. I'm not a Bush-Cheney-McCain-Romney-Ryan-McConnell Republican at all.
  2. I'm also NOT an open-borders, pro-War, "Globalist", pro-Censorship, World Government control Democrat either (Clinton-Obama-Biden-Kaine-Kerry-Gore-Pelosi-Schumer, etc.).

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The real issue is not "Left" .vs. "Right".

The real issue is Global Government (enslavement) .vs. Nationalism (American Independence - local control).

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@FreeSociety

The real issue is Global Government (enslavement) .vs. Nationalism (American Independence - local control).

The real issue is the 1% owning everything. The ruling elite don't give two shits about your nationalism.

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@gjohnsit

Just who do you think the 1% is?
==> The Global Elites and Multinational Cartel structure of their World Government control system.

That's who we're fighting here. If people do not stand up and fight to reclaim national sovereignty, secure borders, and local manufacturing and economic independence -- we will all be sucked up into their top-down economic enslavement system, top-down censorship, and perpetual Global violence and warfare.

And people are resisting all over the World now .. with Brexit (although the movement was quashed), and the riots of France (against globalism), and the Election of 2016.

National Sovereignty is about wresting control away from the (Global) Elite 1% who want us enslaved, American upward mobility destroyed, and us turned into an impoverished 3rd-World territory that they manage.

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The answer to 1984 isn't 1776. It's 1917. Roll that into your capitalist bootlicking pipe and smoke it.

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Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

@The Aspie Corner

1917

That explains a lot ....

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@FreeSociety

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@Deja

Aspie really is a Soviet admirer. I disagree with Aspie on much here. The brutality and inequality of Soviet governance were not mere capitalist propaganda; they were real, and the capitalists' propaganda was essentially written for them by the Russian Bolsheviks. Instead of eliminating the entire boss class forever -- what Hegel, Marx, Engels, Proudhon, Emma Goldman, etc., wanted, and what humanity must do if it is to survive -- what Bolshevik rule actually accomplished was to merely replace brutal Tsars with equally brutal "Commie-Tsars".

And setting the world Socialist cause back more than 100 years. Only now, after the brutality and ethno-cultural conflicts baked-in to the USSR from Day 1 did what trillions of dollars and decades of Cold War never succeeded in doing -- destroying the USSR -- can we dare to speak about socialism again. Even then, it took another 20 years before socialism and socialists in the West could do so. This is my pet peeve with the USSR.

But Aspie still has every right to advocate what he advocates. As does Free Society. Both have holes in the causes they advocate through which the SS United States could be easily sailed. In that regard, they're actually quite alike. Smile

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

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@thanatokephaloides

Instead of eliminating the entire boss class forever -- what Hegel, Marx, Engels, Proudhon, Emma Goldman, etc., wanted, and what humanity must do if it is to survive -- what Bolshevik rule actually accomplished was to merely replace brutal Tsars with equally brutal "Commie-Tsars".

And while I admit I've got an interest in Soviet history, it's easy to see the Soviet Union wasn't without its problems. That being said, it's a terrible idea to take anything the US propagandists scream about the Soviet Union or hell, any other communist country for that matter, at face value.

Grover Furr would be a good place to start:

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJNjwxcjDn8]

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Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.

Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.

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@thanatokephaloides
It was a bit of a knee jerk reaction to my perception of it being meant as an insult. Aspie can certainly hold his own lol.

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@FreeSociety A revolution against capitalism that worked out so well that several imperialist powers, including the United States, tried to invade them. In fact, the US and Britain propped up Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany to fuck with the Soviets, and when that failed, they formed NATO to keep them under constant siege, just like the fuckers are doing now to Venezuela and North Korea.

But I guess you prefer the false revolution of the Founding Plutocrats that amounted to less than nothing for those who weren't in their little capitalist clique. Nope. The little people got fucked with the Riot Act, the Alien and Sedition Acts, constant attacks on the press including the death of Benjamin Franklin's grandson from yellow fever while in prison, the list goes on. And not a single thing has changed since then. Donald J. Trump is just an incompetent mix of George Washington and John Adams, and he can't even get their authoritarian schtick right.

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@The Aspie Corner

I'd love to discuss this, but decided not to enlarge this essay's threads. Can't delete, now, though.

Weird caps, poor spelling, poor grammar, personal attacks. What might these indicate?

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countries that are doing business with Russia and China. He'd pull us out of Yemen and Africa and elsewhere else he has the military playing in.

The global elite wants global austerity and Trump is doing his part here by passing the heinous tax bill and putting work requirements on people who rely on social programs.

If he was bucking the deep state then he'd release the original IG report on the FBIs investigation into Hillary's emails. And the FISA warrant that allowed Obama to spy on his campaign.

I'll give him kudos for removing troops from Syria if that happens. But not for the other things he is doing. He is a sadistic sociopath in my opinion who will screw over anyone he wants.

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The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.
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I have no idea why Trump is doing what he is doing. I am sure he sees this as a benefit to him, or he wouldn't be doing it. If his withdrawals are more real than Obama not giving the keys to the guy that drove the car into the ditch, I am in support no matter how much Trump gains from it.

This is a non-partisan site. Sometimes folks here forget that. I hope you are right, and I do wholeheartedly agree with this.

The Elite Globalists policy has always been to overextend, bleed, and bankrupt our Country dry overseas while getting rid of our Nation's core infrastructure, local manufacturing, and borders - to absorb what is left of America into an authoritarian World Government control system.

The epic battle that is still unfolding is whether the United States lose the struggle and will be transformed into 3rd World status (with low wages, high crime, no borders, no Sovereign control) run by their Global Cartels, or whether The United States will stand up and fight this off and remain an Independent Nation - with self-governance and remain a Sovereign Country.

I believe the right and left agree on much. We just need to find a way to come together and take down the so called centrists aka traitors.

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@dkmich I have been saying for some time that we really need to reach out to those who may have voted differently from us which is why I try to view things from a less partisan perspective. For the 99%, we all have far more in common than we have differences.

While I do not doubt that Trump, or any other politician for that matter, has his own ulterior motives for withdrawal, I will take withdrawal over continued war, no matter who does it. The extreme reaction of the establishment in Congress and the media over this withdrawal tells me that whatever Trump is doing is not according to Deep State plans.

All I want is to see a lot less war and a whole heck of a lot more Peace. It the US is not involved, then there will be a far greater chance for Peace.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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@gulfgal98

The extreme reaction of the establishment in Congress and the media . . .

I'm not exactly sure what it's telling me, other than it must be a good thing, or they wouldn't be losing their minds.

That's just the cherry topping. The real treat is the obvious -- fewer dead and seriously effed up people, including our own.

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@dkmich

Recall that Trump campaigned all along on opposing the (Bush Clinton) Iraq War, and his opposition to the whole (Obama Clinton) "Regime change" policy hatched in Syria.

It is not a mystery as to why Trump is just following through on what his stated beliefs always were.

But he has had to battle against insubordination, policy subversion, and Neocon persuasion and "Fake News" the whole time, and figure out who he can really trust and who he cannot. This is what the posted video at the very top shows.

This is all very similar to what President John Kennedy went through in 1962-1963. And it is even more transparently obvious (than it was in Kennedy's time) that the Establishment is out to get the U.S. President (for his Independence).

I hope Trump can survive. The epic battle continues ....

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Hope the withdrawal from Syria and Afghanistan actually happens. Doesn't seem like the president has a game plan but is just pulling stuff out of his ass as he goes along. And he doesn't appear to be loyal to any side. I see that as a good thing.

Hope he pulls climate mitigation out of his ass real soon.

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motive, but don't care.
If he gets Troops out of the M.E., Afghanistan
I just might vote for him myself.

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