Today's humor, 2/10/17 edition: moments of unintentional clarity

As the Titanic, carrying 330,000,000 passengers is slowly heading beneath the waves, it may be worthwhile to keep dancing while the band plays on. And since laughter, though rare these days, is better than crying, my prescription is for you to laugh. Dammit! Whether you like it or not, LAUGH!

So here its goes.

Question: what one thing must a politician NEVER do? If you said beat the spouse, wrong. How about kicking the dog or cat? Wrong. One more guess. How about not paying income tax? Wrong.

Correct answer: telling the truth.

Alas, to paraphrase a famous saying, the first victim of politics is the Truth. So witness witless T. Perez who blurted out the following:

“We heard loudly and clearly yesterday from Bernie supporters that the process was rigged, and it was."

Oops! Tom you must never do that again. You will lose all DemonRATic respectability. So let's be dishonest about this, just like the HRC playbook demands. Bad news for you Tom, your fell off the chair--now go stand in the corner.

But wait! There's more.

And if you read just one paragraph further down, you will be treated by another pearl of truth-telling by the soon-to-be-diagnosed demented Minority Leader, the inimitable Nancy Pelosi, who gained fame earlier this week by proclaiming that she can not "work with President Bush now" Right Nan, Bushie has left the building along with your cognitive faculties.

At the Frown Hall, er...Town Hall meeting, the following excerpt is quoted:

The college student received the kind of answer about wealth and income inequality that one would expect from a member of Congress whose net worth is estimated at over $100 million.

“I wonder if there’s anywhere you feel the Democrats could move farther left to a more populist message the way the alt-right has sort of captured this populist strain on the right wing, if you think we could make a more stark contrast to right-wing economics?” the student asked.

Pelosi laughed and responded, “Well I thank you for your question, but I have to say we’re capitaliststhat’s just the way it is.

Nice of you to tell the Truth, as your dementia is slowly eroding your ability to consistently lie--but will only enhance your consistent disdain for serfs.

Moral of the story: don't tell the Truth.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KnrX3eEFSc]

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I'd really like to know why my state continues to be Evil the Lesser. The country now looks points and laughs, what a bunch of maroons! The infrastructure is falling down around us, hire more lawyers!
Kamala Harris introduces first bill in the Senate, a response to Trump travel ban

Yeah that's the answer, better access to lawyers. Wealthy Democrat and Republican priorities are to keep labor cheap and shelter expensive, because profit. Fuck humanity, Disney first! Plus, it makes such a good story. The Ds are all about good stories, a polished unreality. Don't say 6,000,000 human beings live in abject poverty, say yay California!


Harris and Wasserman-S, match made in hell. Hardly better than the "opposition" I'd say, but go on. Thanks.

Edit: removed a few zeroes, trillions billions gazillions. lol. Wink But seriously there a six million people in poverty, and we're also number one in homelessness. "That's the system."

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@eyo Kamala Harris is the former attorney general of California who not only refused to prosecute Steven Mnuchin and his fraudulent banking practices in CA, but also told her investigators, who had already found 1000 instances of provable (not probable) fraud, to back off. This order came at a time her investigators thought that there were at least 1000 moire fraudulent transactions which had not already been adequately investigated. When asked on several occasions, mouthy Kamala was strangely silent. It thus surprised me not at all to see her on stage with fellow weasel DWS. Two bookends from opposite sides of the national DemonRATic swamp.

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@Alligator Ed thanks, nice to see another west coaster. Why did so many people vote for her? Lack of choice, or fear of Trump I guess. As lesser evil is destroying the ecology, it hurts just the same. Love mother earth.

The water board just extended drought restrictions another year (almost). W! T! F! ? Hopefully our state planners never get stuck inside a paper bag. Not just BigAg, BigTech you know it was so much more important for the Oracle monopoly to buy Ellison (or Facebook or Apple or Google, etc. ... pick your taker) some island in Hawaii then it was to tax him, so maybe our major highways and spillways wouldn't flood and/or collapse during winter storms.

Another example of great planning by the D's billionaire pals: Delay in tax system imperils California’s rush to govern cannabis economy. I'll just quote this part here:

At stake is $1 billion in anticipated tax revenue for the state, which needs that money to implement and enforce hundreds of new regulations...

"Track and Trace", yet another database billionaire dream come true. Plebes paying rent every single step of the way, is what happens with a shitty bill so long and complicated some people don't even understand what they're voting for. Corporate capture of weed complete. Thanks Democrats! I am NPP in California, No Party Preferred. When it comes to politicians first I look at the purse. Wooba gooba! Biggrin

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@Alligator Ed Sounds like either leverage or a payoff. This era's political question: are they being strong-armed, or paid?

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Diablo

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@eyo and I will vote for them. Meanwhile ...we couldn't even get rid of Darrel Issa .. Even with a pretty good candidate. Kamala Harris was on the ballot the alternative was worse IMHO.
Our problem is SYSTEMIC. Politics is like shoe polish makes you look good ( this too is delusion) but doesn't change much. Once again I repeat. These are our problems. Over population. Thermodynamic collapse, resource depletion. Everything else is just stirring the pot.

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@eyo The ONLY reason I voted for a Wall Street sell out (She supported the "deal" which let Wall Street mortgage criminals off the hook) was to keep the even more odious Loretta Sanchez out of that seat. Had she won, the news would be full of reports of Sanchez elbowing Bannon away from Trump's Mini-D so that she could leave her lipstick on it.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

as a giant game of Jenga. Both D and Rs are eroding the stable base to increase the top. When the whole thing crashes one says " I won!", the other says "you nudged the table".

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

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@eyo Firstly, Kamala was opposed by another less well-financed woman named Sanchez as the second top vote-getter in the CA primary. I knew nothing about the deal giving Mnuchin his Get Out of Jail Free card until after the election. This of course is only part of the clusterfuck the DemonRATic party has perpetrated upon us serfs to get one of their precious cronies into office, where they can continue on the path of High Crimes and Misdemeanors. @ghotiphaze

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@ghotiphaze For such rich people, the billionaires, by and large, have little understanding of how precarious their continuing self-aggrandisement at the expense of the serfs is becoming.

"Let them eat croissants!" is the new Walton mantra. To them I say, why don't you eat the shards of your fine crystal goblets?

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Proudly pronounces she's a capitalist, because she's so fucking out of touch. Millenials are much more inclined toward socialism, but what would a perennial congresswoman know who lives in a hermetically sealed world of endless access, fundraising events, phone calls and dinner with lobbyists and donors, opulence, and unmitigated power.

I was going to put up an essay using her as an example of how craven, stilted and completely disconnected from reality the Dems are, epitomized by here cringe-inducing pandering of late.

Jimmy Dore does the honors, better than anybody:

Lee Camp also hammers Dem Senators and Congressmen (i.e. Shumer & Pelosi together) for their limp attempt to rally people with a publicity stunt protest rally that has to be seen to be believed for how pathetic they truly are (segment is from 6:45):

That Greenwald piece in the The Intercept from which you quote was one that should definitely be shared far and wide:

"Tom Perez Apologizes for Telling the Truth, Showing Why Democrats’ Flaws Urgently Need Attention"

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"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:

THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"

- Kurt Vonnegut

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@Mark from Queens however she is perfectly in touch with the mainstream American zeitgeist and in tune with the general thrust of our current social Darwinist lives. You are the outlier.

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@Song of the lark

The establishment, including, but not limited to politicians, pundits and establishment media, do not align with the zeitgeist; they create it.

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@HenryAWallace that is how she leads, by example.

She and her cronies have plenty, so fuck it. "That's the system."

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@Song of the lark Nancy Pelosi isn't in touch with any zeitgeist except that which her allies in various consulting firms and media companies have created.

She's hooked into lots of money, and the money is spent on creating narratives for various American constituencies, and anyone who accepts the narrative they're being offered, well...one bite, and all your dreams will come true!

What's really cute nowadays is that the PTB have figured out that you don't have to buy people off with real concessions--just give them a story they like and give them a role to play in it and they'll be yours for months, years, or life.

But none of this is a zeitgeist. It's just a way to trick demoralized people who, quite sensibly, don't want to face the way things really are.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Song of the lark The sense in which people here are outliers is not in the content of their beliefs. The policies we advocate are wildly popular--a lot more popular than those that Nancy advocates. Our politics is more popular than hers as well, or at least it is when it's not suffocated under media blackout. If people get a chance to see our politics and hear about our policies, they are wildly popular.

When people here are outliers, it's in their ability to make their saving throw against propaganda and manipulative media tricks. We're not outliers in our views on politics or policy; we're outliers in that we don't always run off after every attractive media narrative that's presented to us. Not always.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

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@Mark from Queens and cutsie. Not good for an old lady. And it shows.I approach that age, and have done public speaking (but only to science nerds). A >70 y/o person probably does not have brown hair. I am nearly 64 and I am a silver fox. Screw being younger.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

@riverlover However, in the "ya never know" category, a male relative of mine (not a blood relative, sadly) died in his 90s with a full head of hair that had only just begun graying. My mother in law, on the other hand, began graying in her teens.

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@HenryAWallace that it is not natural, unfortunately doesn't go far enough--or does it? She is a natural political: rich, phony, selfish, and living in a bubble. However, my dear colleague, Dr. Aloysius A. has taken a liking to the jello in her brain box. Mix and stir. Mix and stir.

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@riverlover LOL! thanks. It was the Senate not Congress, but same same.
Democrats Hold Classes On How To ‘Talk To Real People’ and still fail.

... ends Thursday night with a lecture from Sen. Dianne Feinstein from California on how to oppose Trump’s Supreme Court Pick – whoever that may be.

Yeah, Democrats are not like Republicans at all.

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@riverlover with those below: age can't be determined by hair color...especially with women. (This is my natural hair color--this week).
Mostly I think she needs to cut back on the botox treatments. Her smile looks like Sheldon Cooper pretending to be happy.

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There is no such thing as TMI. It can always be held in reserve for extortion.

@Mark from Queens "So the very same people who bear the blame for Trump’s presidency — by cheating to elevate the candidate most likely to lose to him — continue to dominate the Democratic Party. To describe the situation is to demonstrate the urgency of debating and fixing it, rather than ignoring it in the name of talking only about Trump."

The vote was in fact rigged.

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@Mark from Queens Looks like Lee Fang has had one of his fangs drawn. I notice that the fact that the Dems are as corrupt as the Republicans is neatly sandwiched between stories of Trump's voter purge and other Trump follies.

It's plain irresponsible to talk about Trump committing election fraud or voter suppression in the general without also talking about Hillary committing election fraud and voter suppression in the primary. You can't sweep election fraud under the carpet for one side and decry it in the other.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

capitalism. I've been noting the establishment's effort to denigrate populism by equating it with Communism, racial or religious discrimination, authoritarianism, etc. It's bull puckies

Although I have come to respect wikipedia for many purposes, wikipedia's definition reflects the bs, too.

This is the definition that google gives us:

pop·u·lism
ˈpäpyəˌlizəm/
noun
noun: populism

support for the concerns of ordinary people.
"it is clear that your populism identifies with the folks on the bottom of the ladder"
the quality of appealing to or being aimed at ordinary people.
"art museums did not gain bigger audiences through a new populism"

https://www.google.com/search?q=define+populism&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

However, dictionary definitions reflect common usage. So, if the bs-ers and the people they fool keep it up long enough, dictionary definitions will reflect the bs.

The made the word liberal meaningless, first by mocking liberals and then by dividing the nation into liberals and conservatives (as if). (IMO, "progressive" always was meaningless.) Now, they are turning "populism," a word describing a political philosophy that should appeal to at least 90% of the population, into a pejorative.

I rarely post this word anymore, but fuck 'em.

Twice.

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@HenryAWallace

but a Capitalist is a Corporatist is a Republican, and a Populist is a Fascist is a Democrat who is also a Corporatist unless he's a Socialist or a Republican.

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@native As I've said before, most of the candidates for President were fascists by Mussolini's definition. People just don't like Mussolini's definition, because if we accept that definition, we will be forced to see that we're living in a fascist state. But there's no death camps and forced labor camps within our borders (though there are a few detention centers where people, mostly dark-skinned people, get disappeared and tortured, like the one in Chicago). And there's nobody goosestepping down the road with an arm band, and no legally segregated ghettos, and nobody has to wear a yellow star to announce their race or ethnic heritage, so we can all comfortably assume that nobody here is a fascist except the farthest right wing of the Republican party and their white supremacist supporters.

Except that almost every politician up there either supports a corporatist police state and the austerity economy and endless war that goes along with it--or has been effectively bullied into accepting it.

Aside from Bernie, and, perhaps, Lincoln Chaffee, I'd be hard pressed to find a candidate from the two major parties that wasn't a fascist.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal @Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal @Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal @Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Couldn't agree more, but would like to add, regarding 'no forced labour camps':

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/prison-labor-in-ame...

American Slavery, Reinvented

The Thirteenth Amendment forbade slavery and involuntary servitude, “except as punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted.”
The Atlantic

Whitney Benns Sep 21, 2015

... Some viewers of the video might be surprised to learn that inmates at Angola, once cleared by the prison doctor, can be forced to work under threat of punishment as severe as solitary confinement. Legally, this labor may be totally uncompensated; more typically inmates are paid meagerly—as little as two cents per hour—for their full-time work in the fields, manufacturing warehouses, or kitchens. How is this legal? Didn’t the Thirteenth Amendment abolish all forms of slavery and involuntary servitude in this country?

Not quite. In the shining promise of freedom that was the Thirteenth Amendment, a sharp exception was carved out. Section 1 of the Amendment provides: “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.” Simply put: Incarcerated persons have no constitutional rights in this arena; they can be forced to work as punishment for their crimes. ...

... Convict leasing was cheaper than slavery, since farm owners and companies did not have to worry at all about the health of their workers. ...

... More than a century later, our prison labor system has only grown. We now incarcerate more than 2.2 million people, with the largest prison population in the world, and the second highest incarceration rate per capita. ...

... Angola is not the exception; it is the rule.

Over the decades, prison labor has expanded in scope and reach. Incarcerated workers, laboring within in-house operations or through convict-leasing partnerships with for-profit businesses, have been involved with mining, agriculture, and all manner of manufacturing from making military weapons to sewing garments for Victoria’s Secret. Prison programs extend into the services sector; some incarcerated workers staff call centers.

Given the scope and scale of prison labor in the modern era, one could reasonably expect some degree of compliance with modern labor standards. However, despite the hard-won protections secured by the labor movement over the past 100 years, incarcerated workers do not enjoy most of these protections. ...

...As the camera zooms out and pans over fields of black bodies bent in work and surveyed by a guard, the picture that emerges is one of slavery. It is one of a “justice” system riddled with racial oppression. It is one of private business taking advantage of these disenfranchised, vulnerable workers. It is one of an entire caste of men relegated, as they have long been relegated, to labor for free, condemned to sow in perpetuity so that others might reap.

The fruits of the important and highly pertinent research copied below indicate the nature of the beast...

(Edited to add bolding)

https://www.opendemocracy.net/beyondslavery/genevieve-lebaron/slaves-of-...

Slaves of the state: American prison labour past and present
Genevieve LeBaron 23 April 2015

We know that corporations are drawn to prisoners because they constitute a source of cheap and reliable labour. But what makes prison labour so attractive to governments?

Prisoners in the United States produce a vast array of products bought and sold in supermarkets. They roast coffee beans, farm trout and catfish, milk cows and goats for artisanal cheeses sold at Whole Foods, and pick and process Idaho potatoes and other fruits and vegetables. Corporations both large and small have called upon prisoners to make clothes, shoes, and other department store goods, such as American flags or Prison Blues jeans.

The US prison system is characterised by staggering racial and class-based disparities. For instance, in 2008, the US Bureau of Justice reported that one in three black men would go to prison in his lifetime. Of the one in 35 adults in America currently under correctional control, most are from poor and working class backgrounds. Reflecting on the fact that most prisoners are arrested for poverty-related crimes like theft or selling drugs, while prison time perpetuates their poverty, Harvard sociologist Bruce Western has called US prisons ‘the new poverty trap.’

Prisoners’ meagre wages do little to free them from this trap. They are paid dramatically less than market rates would dictate for their labour. The state of California, which has put inmates to work as fire fighters, reportedly pays them $2 a day compared to a non-inmate fire fighter’s typical hourly wage of $34.44. Wages vary across different ‘employment’ scenarios, but the majority of employed prisoners are paid between US$0.12 to $0.40 per hour. Prisoners have often been subjected to dangerous working conditions, such as being exposed to cadmium and lead while recycling electronics. ...

... Prison labours past

Prison labour is not a modern phenomenon. A vast body of research has demonstrated that there have been at least three major waves of for-profit prison labour in the history of US capitalism.

The earliest wave occurred across Northern states in the early to mid nineteenth century, where the rise of factory work and urbanisation was resulting in labour scarcities and worker rebellions. Prisoners were put to work in large-scale industrial factories to fulfil capitalists’ need for a productive and disciplined labour force. Prison factories during this period were penal-social laboratories. ‘The whip made men living machines’, while managers experimented with different divisions of labour and violent methods of discipline. As historian Rebecca McLennan has argued, these prison factories played an important role in quelling widespread resistance to the new industrial social order by habituating them into the disciplines of waged labour.

The second and overlapping wave of prison labour—the convict lease system—emerged in the Southern states in the wake of the formal abolition of plantation slavery in 1865. American states leased large blocks of prisoners to private companies, which forced prisoners to pick cotton, mine coal, and lay railroads. Far from being a mere substitute for slavery, historians like David Oshinsky have argued that this system of unfree labour was ‘worse than slavery’: it was a brutal strategy to re-appropriate the labour of former slaves and their children. With convict death rates of over 40% in some states, prison labour powerfully and publicly reinforced a racially polarised social order.

Both of these systems of prison labour were enormously profitable. According to one study, in 1865-66, ‘American prisoners made goods or performed work worth almost $29 million—a sum equivalent, as a relative share of Gross Domestic Product, to over $30 billion in 2005 dollars.’

The role of prison labour in US capitalism has never been just about corporate profits. The key architect and beneficiary of these prison labour systems have always been states. Prison labour has helped generate the power and revenue necessary to impose a social order ruled by money and markets. At the same time, the prison system upholds the market order imposed by governments, incarcerating those who resist or cannot find a livelihood within it. ...

... Prison labour today

The third wave of US prison labour—our contemporary system— needs to be understood in this historical light. Today’s prison labour is not simply a ‘substitute for’ plantation slavery or an interchangeable ‘form’ of slavery. To suggest otherwise obscures the central role of governments in perpetuating and profiting from prison labour. While there are some obvious parallels between different systems of exploitation and domination, simplistic analogies blur complex entanglements between slavery, prison labour, and other systems of unfree labour.

In comparison to the two previous waves, a relatively small number of contemporary prisoners exclusively work for private businesses. A wave of legislation—beginning with the Prison Industry Enhancement Act in 1979—re-authorised profitable prison labour and mandated that prisoners work during their incarceration. Today, most of the 2,220,300 prisoners in the US work directly for the state to maintain the prisons in which they are confined. Roughly 6% of state prisoners and 16% of federal prisoners are incarcerated by and work for private companies.

Some prisoners work for Federal Prison Industries, a government-owned corporation also known as UNICOR, which reported in 2014 to employ 12,468 inmates across 78 prison factories. UNICOR recycles toxic e-waste, manufactures goods from the postal containers used by US Postal Service to ballistic military gear, and runs call centers for private firms. UNICOR’s total sales surpassed US$389 million in 2014.

Still more inmates work for booming, state-level prison industries. Prisoners in states like California and Colorado work at everything from farming and roasting almonds to making the diploma covers that college graduates buy in their University gift shops. Some build custom motorcycles that retail at over US$30,000. In spite of bans on the sale of prison made goods in international law, such as the International Labour Organization’s 1930 Forced Labour Convention, such goods are sold commercially across the United States, including in state-run retail outlet stores.

Although these prison industries are owned and operated by state governments, private businesses sometimes partner with the state through ‘joint venture programs’. In many states, prisoners are leased or contracted directly to private firms. For example, Arizona Correctional Industries claims to have ‘provided over 2 million hours of labour to private sector companies’ since the year 2000. Its partners have included Cargill, Hickman’s Family Farms, and ESB Modular Manufacturing. Although these programmes appear to be expanding, it is important to emphasise that only about 6% of state inmates are estimated to work for private firms. Even in these schemes, the state benefits through revenue exchanged for prisoners’ labour.

The cost-savings and direct revenues accruing to federal and state governments through prison labour are substantial, offsetting the massive cost of incarcerating so many Americans. In addition, prison labour has become a key source of revenue for states coping with fiscal crisis. One notable example is the state of California, which faced prolonged and dramatic budget crisis between 2008 and 2012. In response the state has increasingly turned to prisons for skilled labour, replacing unionised and well-paid government employees with low-paid prisoners. California’s inmate fire fighter program reportedly saves the state $1 billion a year.

Slaves of the State

Just as in past, prison labour today is about far more than money. Prison continues to play a central role in anchoring the increasingly unequal and highly racialised social order that characterises contemporary US society. The majority of prisoners continue to be predominantly working class people of colour who have been incarcerated for minor offenses, such as theft, selling drugs, or property related crimes. If imprisonment is, as Loic Wacquant has described it, ‘the punitive regulation of poverty,’ then prison labour is one of the most corporeal forms of neoliberal discipline in existence today. It draws in the unemployed, disenfranchised, and discriminated against, trapping them into disciplines of precarious waged labour.

In keeping with historical precedents, the key architects and beneficiaries of prison labour remain federal and state governments. It has long been clear who retains the ultimate ownership of prisoners’ labour, with the Virginia Supreme Court declaring in 1871 that prisoners were ‘slaves of the state.’ This premise hasn’t fundamentally changed since. Attempts to attribute all blame to profit-driven corporations wrongly absolve governments of their primary responsibility in the exploitation of prison labour.

About the author

Genevieve LeBaron is Senior Lecturer in Politics at the University of Sheffield and Human Trafficking and Modern Slavery Fellow at Yale University. Her research focuses on the global growth and governance of forced labour in retail supply chains and the politics of corporate social responsibility.

Her website address is linked at source and the book this is apparently excerpted from sounds fascinating, if depressing. At any rate, if I had any money, I'd certainly buy it.

But some of these places sound like death camps as well...

We are all one - we, the disposable 99%.

And the 'Drug War' against The People expands, again, under the billionaire Corporate Party President.

Edit: also, do we really need to point out that dark-skinned people don't have'...to wear a yellow star to announce their race or ethnic heritage...' or that 'the clothes/car/area of residence make the man' in the eyes of the police state/fascist authority types of which we speak?

Holocaust survivors were touring years back, speaking of the familiar signs of fascism rising into ascendancy they were increasingly seeing in North America... it ain't just us who've been seeing it, but those most expert in the most regrettably personal ways.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North Oh, right. For a moment, I'd forgotten the prisons. How could I forget?

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal

Lol, how can anyone possibly remember everything all at once, regarding all of the signs of fascism being displayed? You do come pretty darned close, though and I am, as always, impressed by your commentary.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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a clique of overfed fossils. It goes extinct, good. I want to embrace the 21se century, not get dragged back to the 16th. Rec'd!!

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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.

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@orlbucfan To paraphrase Robert Frost: will the earth end in fire or in a cold bathtub?

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"If they were poor and they were sleeping on my sidewalk, they would be arrested for loitering, but because they have 'Impeach Bush' across their chest, it's the First Amendment." - Nancy Pelosi

The Democratic Speaker of the House would like to arrest activists for loitering. Her Quisling like behavior has led protesters to her front door in San Francisco, but she has only herself to blame for the inconveniences she and her rich neighbors now suffer. The great unwashed masses have a right to assemble at her home, her office, or anywhere else they choose in order to exercise what is left of their right to speak freely. Her own words show her level of contempt for the democratic process.

We're all just riff raff to her.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger

I'm sorry, but a (multi-millionaire) top Dem politician thinks people poor to the point of having to sleep on the sidewalk should not be helped but arrested???!!!

Now, there's a true psychopath speaking; they must be kept out of public office and off the streets where they can harm others.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

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@Ellen North

'MY' sidewalk.

Pelosi's line is just so wrong on so many levels.

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The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?

@Not Henry Kissinger

I have to admit she's comprehensive about displaying her pathology. Credit where credit is due - but she somehow never pays interest...

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

It is getting to the point that the difference between Republicans and Democrats is:
when a Republican rapes you, at least he doesn't expect you to fake an orgasm.

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Not Sure I Can Take Much More

@Sonny Boy

Damn, I think that's about the most accurate definition I've heard so far, and I've heard some pretty good ones.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.