Open Thread 11-15-15

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Victims mourned as France investigates Paris attacks
Country enters second day of mourning as police make arrests and find weapons in a car abandoned in Paris suburb.

People have gathered across France as the country marks its second day of mourning following coordinated attacks claimed by ISIL that killed at least 129 people in Paris.

Mourners lit candles and laid flowers on Sunday at the locations of the attacks across the capital, standing in silence as police investigators elsewhere in the country launched a search for the attackers' accomplices.

Stepping up their hunt for information, authorities found several AK47 assault rifles in the back of an abandoned SEAT car in an eastern suburb of Paris.

Paris attacks: Weapons found in 'getaway car'

Several Kalashnikovs have been found in an abandoned car believed to have been used by some of the Paris attackers, French judicial sources say.

The black Seat car was found in the eastern Paris suburb of Montreuil on Sunday, suggesting some of the attackers got away.

Earlier, the first of the seven dead attackers was named as Ismail Mostefai. Six people close to him are in custody.

France is in three days of mourning for the 129 people killed in the attacks.

3 Paris terrorists identified, one by shot-off finger

French authorities have identified three terrorists out of seven killed while staging attacks in Paris on Friday. Their relatives have been detained and are being questioned. Unofficial reports suggest one of them was just 15 years old.

Among the identified terrorists who blew themselves up is a French citizen, Omar Ismail Mostefaï (born November 21, 1985). He was raised in Courcouronnes, a poor neighborhood of Paris.

Mostefaï had a criminal record of petty crimes, having been convicted eight times between 2004 and 2010, but never serving jail time.

Although Mostefaï was put on a list of people with a high-risk of radicalization in 2010, he was “never implicated in an investigation or a terrorist association,” AFP cited Paris prosecutor Francois Molins as saying.

Our terrorism double standard: After Paris, let’s stop blaming Muslims and take a hard look at ourselves
We must mourn all victims. But until we look honestly at the violence we export, nothing will ever change

Any time there is an attack on civilians in the post-9/11 West, demagogues immediately blame it on Muslims. They frequently lack evidence, but depend on the blunt force of anti-Muslim bigotry to bolster their accusations.

Actual evidence, on the other hand, shows that less than two percent of terrorist attacks from 2009 to 2013 in the E.U. were religiously motivated. In 2013, just one percent of the 152 terrorist attacks were religious in nature; in 2012, less than three percent of the 219 terrorist attacks were inspired by religion.

The vast majority of terrorist attacks in these years were motivated by ethno-nationalism or separatism. In 2013, 55 percent of terrorist attacks were ethno-nationalist or separatist in nature; in 2012, more than three-quarters (76 percent) of terrorist attacks were inspired by ethno-nationalism or separatism.

We brought this on ourselves: After Paris, it is time to square our “values” with our history
The West's behaved horrifically in Middle East for decades. We can't be surprised by Paris. Let's look in a mirror

Another horrific attack emanates from the shattered, shredded Middle East into the beating hearts of Western civilization. It is impossible to miss what it means that the City of Light, the justified pride of the French, was the scene of Friday’s spree of violence, hostage-taking and murder. We cannot any longer watch the tragedies befalling Middle Eastern societies and shut the television off when supper is ready. Their tragedies are ours—a point that was destined to be forced upon us sooner or later.

By the most recent count available at writing, 127 are dead in Paris and who knows how many are wounded or traumatized. The Pentagon and the Strangeloves who run it, it turns out, are not the only ones who can pull off a shock-and-awe assault. If the French and all the rest of us are smart, we will dwell long and hard upon the implications of this stark reality.

“This is not just an attack on Paris, it’s an attack not just on the people of France,” President Obama said in a glumly presented statement Friday night. “This is an attack on all of humanity and the universal values we share.” There is something perfectly right in this, and then something perfectly wrong.

CONFIRMED: French Government Knew Extremists BEFORE Attack

As predicted and previously reported, terrorists who took part in an unprecedented attack in the center of Paris killing over a 100 and injuring hundreds more, were well-known to French security agencies before the attack took place.

The UK Daily Mail reported in its article, "Hunt for the Isis killers: One terrorist identified as 'young Frenchman known to authorities' - another two found with Syrian and Egyptian passports," that:

One of the terrorists involved in last night's attacks in Paris has been officially identified as a Parisian, according to local media reports. 

The man, who was killed at the Bataclan, was identified using his fingerprints and was from the southern Parisian neighbourhood of Courcouronnes. 

French reports say that the man, who was around 30 years old, was already known to French anti-terrorist authorities prior to last night's attacks. 

Similarly in January 2015 in the wake of the "Charlie Hebo attack" which left 12 dead, it was revealed that French security agencies tracked the perpetrators for nearly a decade beforehand, having arrested at least one terrorist a total of two times, incarcerating him at least once, tracked two of them overseas where they had trained with known terrorist organizations and possibly fought alongside them in Syria, before tracking them back to French territory.

Paris Terror Attacks: France Now Faces Fight Against Fear and Exclusion

The attacks that took place at a series of venues in Paris on November 13 are already the deadliest on French soil since 1945. At least 127 people have been killed in six different places. Reports say that another 100 are in “absolute” critical condition. Police have reported that eight people believed to have carried out the attacks are also dead – seven by blowing themselves up.

It was not as though France had not prepared itself to face such a tragedy. Anti-terrorist measures have been at their highest level in Paris since January, when two brothers attacked the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, killing 12.

This was obvious to any bystander over the past few months. Armed soldiers have become part of the Paris experience. Yet the government’s security plan, the plan vigipirate, was not enough to stop what is so far believed to be the most organized and coordinated attack Islamic State has perpetrated outside its territory. Details are still thin on the ground, but IS has claimed responsibility. President François Hollande has blamed the group and made it clear that he sees this as an act of war.

How Saudi/Gulf Money Fuels Terror

In the wake of the latest terrorist outrage in Paris, the big question is not which specific group is responsible for the attack, but who’s responsible for the Islamic State and Al Qaeda in the first place. The answer that has grown increasingly clear in recent years is that it’s Western leaders who have used growing portions of the Muslim world as a playground for their military games and are now crying crocodile tears over the consequences.

This pattern had its beginnings in the 1980s in Afghanistan, where the Central Intelligence Agency and the Saudi royal family virtually invented modern jihadism in an effort to subject the Soviets to a Vietnam-style war in their own backyard. It was the case, too, in Iraq, which the United States and Great Britain invaded in 2003, triggering a vicious civil warfare between Shi‘ites and Sunnis.

Today, it’s the case in Yemen where the U.S. and France are helping Saudi Arabia in its massive air war against Houthi Shi‘ites. And it’s the case in Syria, the scene of the most destructive war game of them all, where Saudi Arabia and other Arab Gulf states are channeling money and arms to Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (also known as ISIS, ISIL and Daesh), and similar forces with the full knowledge of the U.S.

Democratic Candidates All Want to Destroy ISIS, But Mostly Debate Domestic Issues
An oddly unsatisfying debate in the aftermath of a major terrorist attack.

A day after the horrific terrorist attacks in Paris, the three Democratic presidential candidates told a national audience that America must be part of an international coalition that uses military force and other tools to destroy ISIS, but gave little insight into their thinking about how they would confront the threat in an increasingly volatile world.

Compared to remarks by the Republican candidates on Saturday (Donald Trump said France’s gun control laws worsened the carnage while others said President Obama created ISIS by bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq), the Democratic candidates were less inflammatory, more nuanced and projected some understanding of the region’s complexity.

“We have to look at ISIS as the leading threat of an international terror network,” former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said. “It cannot be contained, it must be defeated.... But it cannot be an American fight. And I think what the president has consistently said, which I agree with, is that we will support those who take the fight to ISIS.”

The Democrats face off: A good, substantive debate that put Hillary’s weaknesses on display
The second Democratic debate saw Hillary stumble a bit on national security and Wall St., but to no great effect

The second Democratic 2016 presidential debate just wrapped up, much to the delight of journalists and other social pariahs who spent their Saturday night listening to three people snipe at each other over Depression-era bank legislation. It was actually a pretty good debate, with the moderators tossing out mainly substantive questions with good follow-ups, and the candidates picking away at each other on the areas where they actually disagree.

On the political front, this debate laid out many of the weaknesses that Hillary Clinton brings to the race as the frontrunner and heavy favorite, and she didn’t do the greatest job in neutralizing them. The gruesome terrorist attacks in Paris on Friday night shifted the debate’s early focus to national security, which, for reasons that aren’t entirely clear, people tend to view as one of Clinton’s inarguable strengths.

As the candidates dug into the broader issue of terrorism and the specific problem of what to do with the Islamic State, the discussion invariably turned back to the invasion of Iraq, the event that precipitated all the current chaos and slaughter. The growth of the Islamic State in Libya led to questions from CBS’s John Dickerson about the wisdom of the Obama administration’s Libya intervention. Hillary voted for the Iraq invasion (which she now says was a mistake) and she backed the Libya intervention (which she still defends). Dickerson drew a line between the two and asked “how did you get it wrong with Libya if the key lesson of the Iraq war is have a plan for after?” Clinton’s answer was that they did have a plan, but it’s been beset by “turmoil and trouble” as a part of a broader “arc of instability” in the Middle East. True enough! But that gets us right back to the question of whether the more aggressive interventionism favored by Clinton is actually a good idea.

The Class War Has Already Started

Pundits and apologists are quick to chastise anyone who even speaks of class war, as if the words alone might spark what the pundits and apologists fear.

The pundits and apologists dread the words because they know the Class War has already started. The mainstream media’s hope is that denial will somehow suppress the broader recognition that the fault lines in American society are cracking wide open.

Last week’s entries explained why increasing wealth/income inequality is the only possible output of the current social- political -economic order. All the proposed “fixes”–more regulations, more taxes, more bureaucracies, etc.– will fail because they are merely extensions of a failed system that optimizes inequality, monopoly, cronyism, stagnation, low social mobility and systemic instability.

Visual Culture Impacts US History: What Is Seen and What Is Erased?

Nicolas Lampert's A People's Art History of the United States is a fascinating, if anecdotal, look at the ways activist art propels and augments social change movements. It makes no bones about the fact that it is not an all-encompassing survey of progressive art but is instead a look at the ways specific activists have used visual media - broadly defined to include everything from installations and street theater to painting, sculpture, puppetry, poster-making and photography.

Along the way Lampert interrogates how imagery has been used to promote rebellion against the British; support abolition; boost woman suffrage; honor Chicago's Haymarket martyrs; contest lynching; oppose World War I; publicize the World War II-era incarceration of Japanese citizens and US-born Japanese Americans; support civil rights and, later, build the Black Panther Party; push museums and galleries to feature more women and people of color; oppose nuclear power; support People with AIDS; and build a more peaceful and egalitarian world.

All told, A People's Art History covers a lot of ground and is a valuable resource for anyone interested in how community organizing and popular culture intersect. It is also an instructive look at the ways the historical record is distorted by the stories we choose to tell and the images we choose to accompany them.

Millions of Android Devices Vulnerable to Remote Hijacking: Baidu Wrote the Code, But Google Made it Possible

Last month, Chinese security researchers uncovered a security vulnerability in an Android software library developed by the Chinese search giant Baidu, and when it comes to security vulnerabilities, this one’s a whopper. It allows an attacker to remotely wreak all sorts of havoc on someone’s phone, from sending fake SMS messages to downloading arbitrary files to installing other apps without the user’s authorization.

The widespread deployment of the vulnerable software library makes things even worse. The library, known as the Moplus SDK, is used by over 14,000 separate Android apps. By some estimates, as many as 100 million unique Android devices were vulnerable. And that isn’t even the worst of it.

Further investigation by researchers at Trend Micro showed that this wasn’t just the result of some security bug. The Moplus SDK was actually designed to do all the terrible things described above. That’s right: Baidu apparently actually built the capability into its SDK to remotely upload files, install apps, and trigger all sorts of other actions—and this capability existed on every device on which an app that contained the Moplus SDK library had been installed.

Global Warming Is Draining the Waters of Life

LONDON—Up to two billion people who depend on winter snow to deliver their summer water could see shortages by 2060 as upland and mountain snowpacks continue to dwindle.

An estimated 300 million people could find, 45 years on, that they simply won’t have enough water for all their needs, according to new research.

Climate change driven by rising atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide—in turn, fed by human combustion of fossil fuels—may already be affecting global precipitation. Researchers have consistently found that much of the world’s drylands will increase as global average temperatures rise.

Fracking Goes on Trial for Human Rights Violations

As convoys of heavy trucks carry fracking equipment into new oil fields in neighborhoods and wildlands around the world, an alliance of human rights organizations is making plans to put the entire practice of hydraulic fracturing on trial. The court is the Permanent People's Tribunal, a descendant of the Vietnam War-era International War Crimes Tribunal. The Peoples' Tribunal is a branch of no government on Earth. It has no power of enforcement. It has no army, no prison, no sheriff.

So what's the point?

The point is that it matters to tell the truth in a public place. It matters to affirm universal standards of right and wrong, to clearly say, "There are things that ethical people do not do to one another and to the Earth."

It matters especially when international and national justice systems, even in purported democracies, are seemingly incapable of protecting people and the commons - air, water, fertile soil, stable climate and all the other necessary conditions for the exercise of basic human rights. It is especially important when transnational corporations are allowed to write the laws that regulate their own actions, making their transgressions effectively "legal," no matter how outrageous.

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Hillary Clinton goes full Rudy Giuliani in last nights debate. Noun, verb, noun, Wall Street, 911. Jesus Christ on a burnt piece of toast! What a farce, I think Debbie Wasserman Schultz writes the questions herself. It was a two hour Hillary Clinton campaign advert, at least that was my take.

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The Bernie movement is able to say not nice things, namely, that there is a class war

America has believed that we don't have a class system so the use of the term "class war" was not allowed in polite conversation

Or it sounded like some Marxists statement

The latest work is Stiglitz's book and his appearance on democracynow last week

That could be an economic agenda for the Bernie movement

It would be amazing to have a serious intellectual dialogue on the economy, especially that economics now dominates politics

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the 1%'s money is well spent on propaganda, no? Folks defending Wall Street as they are marched to the Poor House.

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thanks for the OT news round up and cool Texas music, JtC.

Class war fare. We have it. The attacks by so-called "Islamist Jihadist" is imo an expression of class war fare . But people don't want to admit it. May be I am confused.

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I did not watch the debate last night but instead hit the sack early. Right now, I do not have much to say except I am sad. I did share gjohnsit's wonderful editorial on the double standard we have toward the victims of terrorism. I include the US's illegal wars, bombing, and drone campaigns in my own definition of terrorism. It seems as though we have lost any window to cease our senseless drive for empire and self destruction. Sad

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

you were better off sleeping through the debate, it just pissed me off.

It does seem like the GWOT is here to stay, it's a perfect vehicle to control most aspects of our lives and to make the fat cats even fatter. Most Americans don't want to look in a mirror, they may see something they don't like, something like a terrorist staring back at them.

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The game is rigged, the fix is in. This diary and some of the comments below highlight Bernie's highlights - not that it will matter.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/14/1450152/-13-Greatest-Bernie-Q...

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

yep, totally agree, it's a charade. The media that's owned by the 1% does not want the anti-1% message to take hold.

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the article ends with

In September a photo of three-year-old Aylan Kurdi, a Syrian refugee who drowned while trying to get from Turkey to Greece with his family, touched more people than written or spoken news stories. Other images have also had a dramatic impact - remember the running Vietnamese girl hit by napalm or Danny Lyons's photos of the civil rights movement - whether by showcasing inhumanity or by demonstrating how kind and compassionate humans can be.

The bottom line is that our attitudes, perceptions, desires and dreams are influenced by what we see, read and hear. A People's Art History of the United States zeroes in on how different movements have utilized the arts and underscores how necessary it is to include culture in all our campaigns and outreach efforts. It may be a cliché, but when all is said and done, a picture is still worth 1,000 words.

Last night I attended a monthly event of leftists here in Columbus, OH

Featured was the author John L. Potash. I was impressed with his discussion of drugs and how they have played a part in economics and repression in the US. The CIA and FBI gave drugs to musicians in an attempt to make sure that they didn't move the culture against the war or incite racial divide.

So much new material here. There is a lot of tie to music and Black issues. His earlier book was

The FBI War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders: U.S. Intelligence's Murderous Targeting of Tupac, MLK, Malcolm, Panthers, Hendrix, Marley, Rappers and Linked Ethnic Leftists Paperback – October, 2008

This is covered in an interview on Real News Network

Happy Birthday Tupac Shakur: Unraveling the Politics of His Life and Assassination Baltimore-based author and researcher John Potash summarizes his research into the life and assassination of Tupac Shakur - June 17, 2015

Note the role of the FBI and CIA into the life and assignation of the rapper Tupac Shakur

Here is a review by a reader on amazon.com in 2008 which ends with the hope that Obama will open an investigation into these activities. Well, maybe Obama wants to stay alive so does not to want to stir the hornets nest.

In this small book is the radical idea that our federal government has from the 1960's on conducted a dangerous and deadly mission against Tupac Shakur and many other minority leaders. Author John Potash divides the book into 190 pages of discursive argument and nearly 100 pages with 900 references to support all his work. This may be because if his thesis is currect or government has committed deadly crimes against the public that are prosecutorial. Tupac Shakur, one of the early rappers, was gunned down at the age of twenty-five after at least 5 attempts at his young life.

John Potash after two decades of revolutionary research comes up with an FBI organization called COINTELPRO involving several state local,and of course Federal Government police state officials who are named and interviewed in the deaths of Bobby Seale, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King, Robert F. Kennedy, Fred Hampton and many more minority activists. In the 1970's, the so-called "Gansta Rappers", were chased down one by one and attacked, killed or imprisioned by the federal agents of COINTELPRO.

By the end of this small book you are numb to the atrocities of the government and that they "Got Away With Murder". You would think that George W. Bush, who is included in this book, was just following older precedents of spying and torture that already has existed for forty years. John Potash names the men who he thinks killed Tupac Shakur and arrested many of his family. Remember that he includes so many interviews, Freedom of Information, FBI, CIA and other information agencies files, scholarly and underground articles, many publications. I can only conclude that I'm surprised nothing has been printed in the newspapers of his controversial thesis, and no real action has come about. Maybe our new President Barack Obama will try
to bring all these people to justice.

I admit up front that I have never heard of Tupac Shakur, and I only have scraps of memory about the CIA & FBI in drugs but I do recall the work on the Golden Triangle in the Vietnam War. During the Vietnam war, music and other cultural elements were significant and the CIA and FBI set out to destroy their effects.

His latest book which he discussed last night is

Drugs as Weapons Against Us: The CIA's Murderous Targeting of SDS, Panthers, Hendrix, Lennon, Cobain, Tupac, and Other Leftists

I am only 35 pages into his new book but agree with some short reviews on amazon.com

A thoroughly researched and referenced expose of how the oligarchs of our world will use any means necessary to engineer society.
This book shows how drugs didn't just enter the counter culture. They were planted and fertilized within it for nefarious purposes. Drugs have been used repeatedly for political purposes worldwide, derailing the lives of political activists, politicians, artists, and ordinary people. An important work. A must read.

and another one

Exceptionally well documented look at how our system works. Having already read tens of thousands of pages of related materials over many years, I can say that this author does a great job of providing an excellent overview of many many CIA, FBI, police and related programs and activities that have been, and continue to be, designed to destroy or render ineffective any social change movements that threaten the oligarchy. Highly recommended.

There is a one hour interview which is an audio with usrful visuals displayed during the interview, but not a video.

I have not listened all the way through these two interviews, but the tie to Nazi work on drugs through the application by our security agencies to control culture is shocking. Maybe today the mind numbing media, and the gee wiz technology plays the role of numbing the thought of the citizens and distracting them from real issues. But drugs were also used to try and control OWS in some areas so the practice is still ongoing.

This interview on the new book was on June 23, 2015

The REAL Drug War

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have flourished under US occupation of Afghanistan and now the world, especially the US, is flooded with heroin. Nothing can give one the who gives a shit attitude like heroin does.

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Has anyone seen or read Assange's book on Google? I have heard him say that Google is worse than the NSA

And now we see how Google has allowed a back door (if that is the proper term) into their operating system allowing hacking of devices throughout the world

and I thought that Google was pushing back on government trying to get back doors into the phones

when I was in Uzbekistan a couple of months ago, the guide felt they were free because he could go to the internet and do anything he wished. Well last week we heard that China was watching the internet and in Uzbekistan heard about a political rival just released after 20+ years in prison which he was tortured and starved and he is on his death bed. There was an article recently that the head of the country went out to view cotton fields but the harvest was already done so people went out and glued cotton on plants so he could see the fields.

it was a wonderful trip to see the sites of the silk road and places there Alexander the Great and Ghenghis Khan, among others came and destroyed everything including the people. If you are interested in a low budget, but hands on tour company let me know. Felt safer there than I do in some neighborhoods of Columbus.

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Chinese firm attacks Android phones via malware-laced apps
by Jason Murdock 23 Sep 2015
http://www.v3.co.uk/v3-uk/news/2427186/chinese-firm-attacks-android-phon...

"The malicious adware uses novel techniques to maintain persistence and obfuscate its activity, including installing system level services, modifying the recovery script executed on boot, and even tricking the user into enabling automatic app installation," they wrote in a blog post.
The evidence suggests that attackers are repackaging popular Android applications to inject malicious components, and FireEye reports it has observed over 300 malicious, illegitimate versions of the Android apps being distributed, including Amazon, Flashlight, Memory Booster and Clean Master.
"After propagating to the victim's phone, the malware unpacks and releases the malicious payload along with the normal components of the repackaged app. Now that the app has full control of the phone, it can use the victim's phone for any purpose," warn the researchers. "The app never mounts the /system back to read-only, and allows anyone to invoke its root backdoor to obtain root privilege. Any other attackers landing on the same victim phone can control or make permanent damages to the phone.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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I didn't mean to watch the debate. I had no intention of doing so...and then poligirl started to liveblog it on facebook and sucked me in, damn it. What a shit show, starring Queen Clinton and two random dudes we might get around to hearing from if we can spare the time. And those enormous contributions from the banksters mean nothing! Nothing, do you hear that? Because 9-11, and female donors! Ha! All said with a straight face. I feel dirty for even watching. Afterwards I finished some art.

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I shave my legs with Occam's Razor~

that's my take on the toilet bowl affair too. It's all meant to coronate Hillary "Let them eat cake" Clinton. What a smug ruse!

Beautiful art, thank you!

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I actually tweeted. Me! I never do that. Next thing I know I'm tweeting at Mr Whitebread--why don't you just run up on stage and bend queen clinton over and give her backside a big old smooch? Do you honestly think we're not timing this debacle or should I say HRC campaign ad?

I know it doesn't change a thing, but some stuff is just to make me feel better. Can't throw my shoe at a flatscreen teevee.

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I shave my legs with Occam's Razor~

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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the one redeeming factor is that (according to preliminary projections), one could probably have fit the debate viewers in a broom closet (exaggerated, of course).

Wink

And that may have been intentional, since the Iowa collegiate schedule was certainly a known factor when the debate schedule was drawn up.

I will have a couple of comment on specific 'exchanges,' when I've had time to read the entire transcript. Frankly, I'm still feeling too 'buggy' to worry about it.

Later, I'm going to post the video of Schumer stating the 2016 Dem Party Game Plan, but here is one quote:

". . . and we must [Schumer's emphasis] have our Presidential candidates all on the same page."

Well, they certainly seem to have accomplished this, blurring the nuances to the point that average [and low information] voters will not likely be able to distinguish any differences between their various stances.

*Sigh*

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Here's a link below, to clip on the SSDI 'reform' which establishes a new flat rate for the monthly benefit.

(IOW, it completely disassociates pre-disability earnings from the SSDI monthly stipend.)

BTW, I'll just have to link to this 54-second clip. Sorry! Couldn't make an embed work, here, no matter what I did to the code. Again, the real in-depth interview that I've referenced, will be posted as soon as things calm down for us. At that time, I'll post a couple of 'clips' that I'll make, and the entire video of the interview.

Video Link: Budget deal includes Social Security, Medicare reforms

Here's a brief excerpt from the accompanying piece:

GOP leaders and the White House are pushing structural reforms to Social Security and Medicare that would avert the double-digit increases expected next year for many beneficiaries in both programs while saving billions in other areas.

A key piece of the budget deal — and one of its costliest provisions — staves off a 52 percent premium hike that would have hit 8 million Medicare Part B enrollees next year. That fix, which is the result of a glitch in federal benefits law, is estimated to cost nearly $8 billion.

[My words: Of course, this budget provision was on mostly on the behalf of the 'wealthiest' Americans. Out of total of approximately 17 million Americans who were even affected by "hold harmless,' between 10 and 11 million were poor, and didn't even pay the monthly premium, and of the 1 million plus (not affluent enough to pay extra income-related Medicare premiums), and mostly had 'workarounds' available to them that would have exempted them from the looming Medicare premium increase. BTW, the figures in this piece are not in keeping with those reported in the bulk of MSM news reporting. Not sure 'why.'

So, in spite of the rhetoric or propaganda that has generally passed for reporting, this so-called 'fix' this was/is a transference of wealth upward--as usual. I'll post more on this little sleight-of-hand, at a later date.]

The deal would also prevent a 20 percent across-the-board cut in Social Security disability benefits for 11 million people next year, which was the result of a quickly drying-up trust fund.

“We have extended the solvency of Social Security Disability Insurance and protected millions of seniors from a significant increase in their Medicare Part B premiums and deductibles next year,” House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) wrote in a statement praising the deal Tuesday morning.

[My Words: There's that word: "protected."]

In addition to averting those increases, the deal would enact a series of changes to both the disability and Medicare programssome of which could be tough for Democrats to stomach.

Bad

[My words: That's an understatement. Gotta love the gratuitous platitudes, intended to give Democrats 'cover' when they slash entitlements. The 'changes' which could be tough, presumably, are the flattening of the SSDI monthly stipend.]

BTW, I still have the 20-minute interview with the reporter on C-Span to 'clip,' which expounds upon this so-called reform. Getting sick hasn't helped much--and, I've also got to resume setting up the blog that I started the week that my Brother passed away. So, it may be a few weeks, but it is very important (IMO).

Lovely art, Triv! And, thanks for today's OT, and news roundup, JtC!

Hey, Everyone have a nice 'rest of the weekend!'

Bye

Mollie

[Postscript: Apologize in advance for typos/bad syntax.]


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But my SSDI payment is so low perhaps I ought to save my spit lest it become a valuable commodity in the future? And naturally I couldn't possibly need a cola as the price of gas is so low, never mind that I don't drive. I'd probably just waste it on beer, smokes and tattoos anyway. Right? Assholes.

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that sorta explains 'why' lawmakers are determined to dismantle SSDI--as we know it.

I'll try to post on this when I get the other video up, but in a nutshell--policy wonks have figured out that, at least some beneficiaries, such as folks at the lower end of the income spectrum--meaning the lower two income quintiles--benefit more if they draw SSDI, due to the benefit formula--than if they work [considering today's wages for unskilled/less skilled workers].

That is because the formula for SSDI also incorporates wages on the high end, which have risen astronomically over the past 30-40 years.

I would say, "So what?"

But, apparently, it irks the bipartisan, corporatist neoliberal PtB.

Mollie

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Or do a quick diary.
Those assholes in congress get more in daily perks then most of us get all month on either SS, SSDI or SSI.
And their god damned rules on SSI are so strict.
The cola increases being tied to gas is so asinine. Most people can't afford to buy gas no matter how low it is or pay for insurance.

I've been meaning to include this article in my comments.
Very disturbing.
I hope people see the link, but I'll post it again in another thread.

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personifies American politics.

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he Syrian passport recovered from near one of the Paris attackers may be fake, a US intelligence official told CBS news. The document did not contain the correct numbers for a legitimate Syrian passport and the picture did not match the name, said the official.

The passport found near the body of one of the eight attackers who struck on Friday, 13 November, was used to enter the European Union through Greece in October. The Serbian interior ministry said that the passport was used to enter that country on 7 October, by a man claiming refugee status.

Obviously the terrorists want the authorities to blame the refugees.
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how the media doesn't mention the failure of the global surveillance apparatus, three times in the last few weeks. You know, the "watch everything you do and say" program that's supposed to keep folks safe. Yet the outcry is for more surveillance and more weakening of rights, closing of borders, etc. Well, maybe it's not that funny.

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That said they were doing drills when the shootings took place in Paris.
They were doing drills during the Boston bombings, the attacks in London and on 9/11.
CT or not?
Remember operation north woods.

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they were tweeted by Glenn Greenwald

11 sec of H the war hawk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgcd1ghag5Y

and hillary answers questions at town hall meeting 9/11, 9/11, 9/11

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3d43HLyTI

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You might get fried, but not zapped. Smile People might not like it, but there is absolutely zero reason why you should be banned for posting either one. There is a good diary up right now that would be perfect for you to post on. http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/15/1450245/-Even-At-Its-Best-Cli...

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

If don didn't do it, I'd drop it in in a flash.

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Sure am glad to be over here before the Clinton coronation. Will not vote for her for any reason. We working people have been voting for the lesser evil for years and years and years and look where it's gotten us. We keep on getting poorer and poorer.

I will be voting Green if Hillary gets the nomination.

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I'm with you, the Greens are actually closer to my political perspective, but Bernie Sanders has a more realistic shot at winning, short of him winning the nomination, I'll be a Greeniac too. Wouldn't it be amazing, if Bernie loses the nomination, that his movement and momentum transfers to the Green Party.

Did you get the boys registered to vote yet? That's how it's done in Chicago.

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who would throw them the biggest bone.

Well, that might be Bernie, so that would be OK.

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Jill

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I cannot vote for Hillary under any circumstances. I will be voting Green if she gets the nomination. And I honestly do not care if a Republican beats her either. I am fed up with the status quo. It may be time to let the whole thing just melt down.

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that Senator Sanders' supporters would push for him to support a third party candidate--Greens, Socialists, ???--if he doesn't take the nomination.

If that were to happen, I believe that there might actually be a chance for a third party candidate for gain traction like never before.

If it doesn't happen, my 'fear' is that many low information voters will reflexively support FSC.

After all, as Chuck Schumer has prescribed, the Dem candidates are basically supporting the same social welfare programs, with most of the nuance not obvious or apparent to the more casual voter.

Interestingly, one of the exchanges [from last night's transcript] that surprised the heck out of me was when FSC actually had the gall to thank Bernie for bringing more voters in the Dem Party.

I say that, because I doubt seriously that any candidate would thank another one for ginning up votes, unless the candidate believed that those votes would ultimately be cast for them. [That's my interpretation, anyway.]

Certainly, FSC did herself no favors--she was very dismissive, I thought. That attitude will not serve her well.

Wink

Mollie

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she glared at him with a "how dare you question my highness" look in her eyes, and that smug smile didn't disguise it one bit either.

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The US National Geographic Society published a survey of geographic literacy. This international survey of young people in the US and either other countries—Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Mexico, Sweden, and Britain—asked 56 questions about geography and current events. The organization’s survey discovered that about 87% of Americans, aged 18 to 24, the prime age for military service, could not place Iraq on the map. Americans could find on average only seven of the 16 countries in the quiz. Only 71% of the surveyed Americans could locate the Pacific Ocean, the world’s largest body of water.
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now that IS just plain ignorance.

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“Is France Ripe for an Authoritarian Regime?” What is remarkable about that Op Ed piece in the conservative Le Figaro newspaper, is that it was written not in the wake of today’s horrific terrorist attacks in Paris—but the day before.

As I write, it is still unclear how many have been killed in the French capital—the reported total has reached at least 140–but there is no question that the massacre could have a devastating impact on France’s already very shaky democratic institutions.

According to the Le Figaro, when asked by IFOP, a respected French poling agency, if they would accept a non-democratic form of government to bring necessary reforms to France, 67% of the French said they would opt for a government of non-elected technocrats. 40% percent said they would back a non-elected authoritarian regime.

Again, that survey was carried out the day before the bloody carnage in Paris.

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thanks to Debbie's scheduling. I went for a walk yesterday afternoon, met some Bernie supporters on the way home. I asked them when the debate was going to start and they told me 5:30.

But it was a Saturday and the Oregon-Stanford game started at 4:30. It was a thrilling contest with the lads from down the road emerging victorious in the closing seconds.

I moved over to Facebook and saw Poligirl and Triv discussing the debate and mentioning one of those "who won?" polls, which is when I realized the debate had come and gone.

So nice work, Debbie! Your plan succeeded.

Note: as discussed on Facebook, shaz and I don't get actual TV. We just use the set as a DVD monitor. So I didn't actually watch the football game. I haven't seen a complete football game since Keith Olbermann got fired from MSNBC. It's much better this way. I don't have to squint to avoid noticing the steroid use or the pointless brutality and can imagine that the players are carefree college lads participating in an activity in between classes.

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since we cut the cord and have not missed it. We use our tv as a DVD too. Every time I visit my mom or someone with a tv, I am shocked at how horrible it is and how glad we do not have it. If there is something that I want to watch like the Tour de France every year, I buy a limited subscription and watch on my laptop. It is really amazing how much more peaceful our life is without the tv.

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which one? I am with Verizon and that is already bad enough, but it's the only company that has enough towers in HI. I also need one with which I can be reached while I am in Europe. It also should be water- and sand tight. I want to use it on the beach. Should be unbreakable, because I have the habit to throw around my phone all the time. Should be large, so that I don't have to search for it on the bottom of my bags.

As now I will be equipped to comment while on the go (exactly the opposite from what I wanted to do), but someone said they are differently good for online commenting and writing purposes?

Any suggestions? Within the next ten minutes? Thanks.

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cell phone, "smartphone," tablet,
laptop?

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brought it back to life with a new heart pace-maker. Smile

Smartphone won't work with me, not smart enough and too expensive, tablet nah, what for, really? Laptop yes, will be my next purchase. Some day...

Nevertheless, which smartphone would you recommend?

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might be a problem in the bottom of your purse, it'll be easy to find though.

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but I think it was a WWII era listening device for hearing approaching aircraft.

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I just googled it, that's what the NSA used to listen to our conversations before the advent of cell phones and the internet. Crafty dudes, that NSA.

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PARIS (AP) — France launched "massive" air strikes on the Islamic State group's de-facto capital in Syria Sunday night, destroying a jihadi training camp and a munitions dump in the city of Raqqa, where Iraqi intelligence officials say the attacks on Paris were planned.

Twelve aircraft including 10 fighter jets dropped a total of 20 bombs in the biggest air strikes since France extended its bombing campaign against the extremist group to Syria in September, a Defense Ministry statement said. The jets launched from sites in Jordan and the Persian Gulf, in coordination with U.S. forces.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e0f9dbcdcb19489eae45b87b5402576d/france-m...

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about the Raqqa bombing.

I was over at Moon of Alabama where
commentators had noticed the NYTimes
paywall was down and were saying to
get ready for a propaganda onslaught.
Didn't think much of it.

Then later I saw someone on Twitter
asking, "NYT paywall is down? Really?"

Which prompted me to check the Wall
Street Journal, because, not being a
subscriber, I can never get in there -
except I did, only to be met with a war-
sized headline blaring FRANCE BOMBS
ISIS. Ditto at the NYT. But I had to go
to AP to get a half-way decent account
of what had happened, because, as the
guys MoA predicted, the MSM are in
full propaganda mode.

As for France bombing so quickly when
all they have are suspects and IS claims
of responsibility through unusual
channels for IS and made hours after
the Paris attacks with the only
information about the attacks in the
claims being a few details already well
publicized in the Western MSM . . .

Are we really supposed to believe that
the French intelligence services - who
could not stop some petty thief in his
late 20s with eight convictions (but no
jail time) under his belt (the only
suicide bomber ID'd so far) with at
least two accomplices aged 15 and
18 and four other fellow travellers not
yet described from committing an
hours-long rampage in Paris - have
definitely solved the question of who
is really behind the massacre in
precisely two days?

This whole narrative is simply
preposterous. They are taking us for
fools.

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planned* in such a short amount of time since the attacks. Almost like they'd been tracking and surveilling the attackers for some time and knew ahead of time about the attacks....

*It was an attack on people not on a place. We shouldn't forget that. People were killed; Paris still stands.

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-- John Lennon

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to queue up. Rained a bit today and life goes on.

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rain for the next 3 days here, starting tomorrow.

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Poland’s new government won’t accept migrant quotas imposed by the European Union, as the terror attacks in France have exposed the weakness in the bloc, the nation’s future minister for European affairs said.
“In the wake of the tragic events in Paris, Poland doesn’t see the political possibilities to implement a decision on the relocation of refugees,” Konrad Szymanski was quoted as saying on Wpolityce.pl website on Saturday. “The attacks mean there’s a need for an even deeper revision of the European policy regarding the migrant crisis.”

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Bavarian Finance Minister Markus Soeder had cranked up pressure on Merkel to reverse her "open-door" refugee policy, saying the attacks in Paris underlined the need for tougher measures to control the influx of migrants.

"The days of uncontrolled immigration and illegal entry can't continue just like that. Paris changes everything," Soeder told Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

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I read somewhere that most of the identified terrorists were actually French citizens. Has anyone else heard or seen this?

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

who, by the way was ID'd from a
severed finger found in the rubble of
the concert hall (no I am not making
this up, this is honestly what MiniTrue
is publishing and broadcasting after
the much-ridiculed magic indestructile
Syrian passport story was "corrected"
with the revelation that it was a fake -
neither name, number, or photo
matched (how did a Syrian coming via
Greece ever get in with such a fake? ssh.
don't ask)) . . . the one identified bomber
is a French-born citizen of Algerian
descent with some eight convictions,
but no jail time, for "petty offenses."

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with a state of mind of those marginalized and underprivileged immigrant kids, who grew up in France and are citizens, snap and join and pick up "jihadists'" recruiting propaganda and willingly get trained to "die for the cause". I doubt also that French secret service can exactly know when one of those "petty theft criminals from the "hoods" of Paris, turn into "willing trainees of jihadists". You just can't put any small crime kiddo from the hoods in prison, otherwise France would have (like the US) thousands of people in prison for crimes that don't justify prison sentences and are negligible.

Here is a bit more updated material:
In wake of Paris attacks, France launches 'massive' airstrikes against Isis

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16 November 2015 - 00H05 - Polish minister says Syrians can return to fight and 'liberate' homeland

The rest, criticism of CSU (bavarian finance minister) and Horst Seehofer (CSU), just stands for the usual suspects spreading idiocies by mixing refugee issues in Germany and with terrorist issues.

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that a whole lot of refugees from
American wars in the Middle East and
Africa have been set up for extermination,
if not through bombing and famine then
on the seas and roads to somewhere or
in torched settlements and housing
once they get somewhere.

The US has really set the stage for
xenophobia and racism not just in
Europe but also in the US - Trump;
the violent cop videos YouTube
shamelessly purveys to keep blacks
and cops stirred up; get WalMart,
Amazon, & Co. to quit selling the
Confederate battle flag to piss off
hardcore white racists . . . . This list
could go on forever.

What is important is that lots of groups
are being set up for official, legal
discrimination . . . whether for
protesting cop violence, residing in
the US illegally, being Muslim, being
poor (especially homeless, elderly, or
disabled).

Does anyone at this juncture still truly
wonder how the American Imperial
Project, birthed from the remnants of
the Third Reich, plays out from here?

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There is not a single nation in the world, with the exception of Japan, perhaps, that has good intentions toward the US. Not even the other four of the five eyes, can stomach the US — neither the people nor their governments..

Keep your eye on the Petrodollar. Its death throes are what is spurring the US to desperately pour its money into backing the Sunnis and ISIS via Saudi Arabia. The Saudis and OPEC are the last hope for the Dollar, the deal the US made with the Devil in 1973, when Nixon took the Dollar off the gold standard. How pathetic is that? Even gold, among the commodities, will no longer be priced in Dollars, globally. China is taking over the gold fix in January — just as China has given to the world a popular alternative to SWIFT, which neuters the US ability to sanction other nations. Nothing can save the tiny swinging dick of Dollar hegemony. Ordinary people throughout the world are already well aware that the US has long been the ultimate bringer of death and suffering.

All nations are stringing the US along with its desperate trade agreements, the TPP and the TTIP. They are straddling their commitments to the arrangement, running the scenario of how much those agreements would be worth when Dollar hegemony fails. How would the US pay for its surplus imports? December is a very telling month, as the IMF switches sides. By the end of the year, the Yuan may be ready to freely float on the Forex, as it is now in Switzerland. And, it will finally be the beginning of the end of the stupidest Empire to ever appear on this planet.

Big changes are coming to the telecoms and information services. They will cut themselves free of the US, perhaps become supra-national. Their days are numbered, internationally, if they don't find a neutral country to headquarter.

Upon the foundation of Bitcoin a rather sudden global realignment can and ultimately will take place, in a mathematically organized way.

For the rest of the world, it does not matter who is elected President. For decades, US Presidents have been toothless kabuki actors under the rule of the corporate military/Neocon cartel that plagues this earth. But without the Dollar, they are nothing.

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All nations are stringing the US along with its desperate trade agreements, the TPP and the TTIF. They are straddling their commitments to the arrangement, running the scenario of how much those agreements would be worth when Dollar hegemony fails.

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…at the end of that link, Snoopydog?

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I don't give a rats ass who gets selected to be the figurehead or first asshole in charge. It's rigged. We have no democracy, no parliamentary means to effect anything. The rest of the western world seems as fucked up as we are because the 'Pump don't work as the Vandals stole the handles' globally. NATO gimme a break. I hope your right but kinda doubt it cause I see no nation state or configuration of ordinary people willing to take these fuckers on.

Why would they, as the powers that be seem to me regardless of where globally they exist are all about making a killing and this means you. They will kill you and destroy your anti-western or western world ass if you interfere with their 'world as we find it'. All for the great god of Babylon and profit. They have money and technology on the side of the 'free world'. Not to mention fb. That golden Bull on wall street rules the world.

Monetarily-profit, power-dominion, we win, and say these barbarians are not really human as they don't respect our values. Vote for Hillary or Bernie they will kick their valueless asses. The whore of Babylon is alive and kickin ass. We got the fireballs that can't be put out. Bring it on. Sorry this might the final madness that makes me not give a shit which insane asshole (including Bernie) loses or wins. No forget that I like Corbyn's win I like Trudeau's win. WTF is wrong with us? Why so we accept this as it is utter bs as reality or inevitable. Well I got nothing against the Veit Cong or the Caliphate of some poor ME place we have destroyed and are still bombing and killing anything that moves.

Where is the resistance to this either here or globally? I see no resistance only humans who have no power, singing songs of wisdom. Let it be. Meanwhile the beat goes on and we need to fear the lunatics who are armed and are well known 'terrisrt's who are gonna kill yer family' as George the defective idiot said. Who makes these monsters? Could it possibly be the so called Western World? Where in the hell are our values? Is death to who ever we decide to eliminate and kill a value? NO. I see no noose tightening on the US. I see the western world coming together to stop the scary Caliphate we all must fear. Don't forget China or Russia they are a real threat we need to deal with.

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Laugh about it, shout about it, when you've got to choose
Every way you look at this you lose.

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Oh yeah

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in the third tweet is: Number 2 in ISIS command killed.

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they wounded El Numero Uno, al-
Baghdadi himself and may have killed
him, as the US already has a couple of
times.

Keep us news junkies waiting for
confirmation, which, of course, will
never come - or just toss out that old
chestnut "was buried at sea" when its
time for rebranding.

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over at the gos. I think that is a first. Considering what Hedges said one could think this was a brave act from Egberto Willis. Boy, am I messed up already...
Good Night.

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just testing if it is accepted. Smile

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So I wonder what the hell was done to this place. Been one weird day.

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Newest diary is from 01/12/2016. All my comments are gone. I suspect we're going to be going down again.

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Or ... Or I have no idea.

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So perhaps the database is being rebuilt from zero, and data is being reloaded in steps — month by month, or something.

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It would be a shame to lose all that great content. And it would be reassuring to know we haven't been hacked in some way.

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doing to not experience a massive data loss. He probably must reload the latest back-up of the whole database.

If he gets that done, I'll fedex a bottle of champagne to him. That's what is happening if you are too deep into "labor of love", turns its back on you and becomes a "labor of hate". Poor JtC.

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last winter.

JtC worked his magic, and we were able to view everthing again.

(He was able to see it, the entire time.).

Fingers crossed, that it's the same situation.

Hey, if you talk to your Australian friends again (about their Soc Sec), please let us know if you hear anything new.

Have a good one!

Mollie


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We can see some comments from a couple of weeks ago so if everything was being loaded sequentially we'd have all our comments up to late May. However that's not the case so let's just consider this entertainment as we wait for whatever is happening.

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Someone posted in the Don't Panic thread that JtC said no data loss.

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because when the site popped up, I had not yet registered here. And we're so last year. Has Hillary been indicted yet?

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.