Open Thread - Wednesday August 26, 2015

Growing up, I was exposed to most types of music around. My mother loved classical music, my father loved jazz, and they both loved forties big band and Latin music. My mother is musical and played the piano by ear. When I was a child, my parents gave me and my sister piano lessons. I stuck with it for four years but still cannot play very well. My sister made it six months and quit. But despite my failing to learn an instrument, I have always enjoyed music. For several years I sang in a church choir. Choir people are the fun people in a church. I also sang with a community chorus for a while.

With all the exposure I had to various types of music at home and through my peers, like R & B and various forms of rock, I never listened much to blue grass until we came to North Carolina. The very first night we were in this town, my husband and I wandered into a local Mexican restaurant for dinner. There was a blue grass band playing that night and we really enjoyed listening to them. Thus was my first exposure to blue grass. So now blue grass is a part of my music listening.

Originally, the Infamous Stringdusters was founded in 2007 as a six piece acoustic band featuring a guitar, banjo, mandolin, dobro, fiddle and double bass. However in 2011, the mandolin player left the group citing the stress of travel. The Stringdusters never replaced him and now travel as a five piece band. In some of the earlier recordings, you can hear his wonderful mandolin playing in them. Unlike many other bands, the Infamous Stringdusters have three members who share the lead vocals. The Stringdusters are mostly a touring band and spend many weeks on the road each year.

The Stringdusters’ resume includes five studio albums, three International Bluegrass Music Association awards, and a Grammy nomination, but their true brilliance lies in their passion for live performance. Intricate harmonies, cleverly composed arrangements and their profound commitment to presentation induces traditionalists and newcomers to stomp their feet on common ground.

Without further ado, here are the Infamous Stringdusters! I hope you will enjoy listening to them as much my husband and I do.

This first song might be my favorite. It has a wonderful guitar solo in it. It is called Hitchhiker.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYhuqwYigyI&list=RDBYhuqwYigyI&index=1]

Magic #9 is an instrumental that was nominated for a Grammy in 2011 in the best country instrumental category.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0uukT_rAgk&list=RDBYhuqwYigyI&index=7]

Here's a cover of a traditional blue grass tune, Get It While You Can.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIVgf-o2urc&list=RDBYhuqwYigyI&index=21]

And in honor of Bernie's call to revolution, here's You Can't Stop the Changes.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwAuZJsDXQE]

And finally a song that both my husband I really like. It is my husband's favorite. All The Same.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXg2USQmL4I]

Here are just a few news clips to start your day. First from Salon on how the mainstream media is doing everything it can to destroy the campaigns of Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump.

Last week the New York Times deigned to notice that Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont is running for president – have you heard about this? – and even by the Gray Lady’s usual standard of treating everyone to the left of the Obama-Clinton Democratic center as a two-headed, kazoo-playing talking dog, it was quite a piece of work. Times reporter Jason Horowitz’s dispatch from a recent Sanders rally in Dubuque, Iowa, barely even pretended to be a news article. It emanated tangible hostility from beginning to end – sometimes veering toward distaste, sometimes toward mockery — and was loaded with scare quotes and attack adjectives.

It is always about following the money as this article by Lee Fang of the Intercept shows.

Christopher Horner, an attorney who claims that the earth is cooling, is known within the scientific community for hounding climate change researchers with relentless investigations and public ridicule, often deriding scientists as “communists” and frauds.

Horner is a regular guest on Fox News and CNN, and has been affiliated with a number of think tanks and legal organizations over the last decade. He has called for investigations of climate scientists affiliated with the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change and NASA, and inundated climate researchers at major universities across the country with records requests that critics say are designed to distract them from their work.

New court documents reveal one source of Horner’s funding: big coal.

Meanwhile the coal industry is collapsing, but the damage done still remains. This article originally appeared at Tomdispatch, but I am linking it via Juan Cole because Cole has also included a video with the article. It is a long read.

However, Hensley doesn’t know and can hardly imagine what this region — his home — was like before the peaks were removed. “I wasn’t alive when those mountains were there,” he observes a few hours later. And even though the industry in West Virginia is in the grips of an unprecedented collapse that threatens to dethrone King Coal once and for all, this 14-year-old and all the other children growing up in the shadow of these “blank spaces” will never see the decapitated peaks return to thickly forested mountain tops.

The King Is Dead

In the first half of this year, at least six domestic coal companies filed for bankruptcy. In February, West Virginia’s Covington Coal fell, followed by Xinergy and Grass Creek Coal in April, Patriot and Birmingham Coal & Coke in May, and A&M Coal in June. In August came the biggest announcement of all: the $10-billion coal giant Alpha Natural Resources had entered the bankruptcy sweepstakes, too.

But climate change is real and the foot dragging by the world's leaders has put us into crisis mode. Courtesy of Common Dreams, climate justice activists appeal to the world's leaders for immediate action.

"For more than 20 years," the statement declares, "governments have been meeting, yet greenhouse gas emissions have not decreased and the climate keeps changing. The forces of inertia and obstruction prevail, even as scientific warnings become ever more dire."

Acknowledging their set of demands "implies a great historical shift," the signers of the statement say the globalized justice movement for will no longer "wait for states" to make the needed changes on schedules dictated by the powerful fossil fuel corporations, large agro-businesses, financial elites, or governments in the thrall of such interests.

"Slavery and apartheid did not end because states decided to abolish them," the statement reads. "Mass mobilisations left political leaders no other choice."

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Big Al's picture

I like that term, rabble rouse.

I read MBs diary about the media and Sanders campaign. But also in the diary is a bit about Sanders' platform and MB's wise
suggestion that we take a critical look at the policy ideas. He linked to Sanders' "Agenda for America", which has 12 items listed for
Sanders' economic agenda. One thing I noticed in the diary comments is hardly anyone took him up on that instead focusing on the
issue of the mass media discriminating against Sanders.

I've looked at them and have some critical and uncritical comments on them.

But first, does anyone know of anything else Sanders has issued relative to his policy positions? For instance, in the Agenda for
America I see nothing about foreign policy and defense/homeland security spending. Anyone know of anything other than the
Agenda for America?

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for actually posting something on this open thread after it has been up for over two hours. Wink

No, there is nothing on foreign policy on his website. The closest thing to it is climate change. So you are right. There is no special listing for foreign policy. However with a little help from the Google, I came across this posted just two days ago. IMHO, Sanders certainly is not where you or I would want him to be, but no one else is either and he is definitely much better that Clinton or any of the Republicans.

On the Patriot Act, Sanders voted against it and its renewal and his criticism of the NSA is also consistent. He has called the NSA's surveillance "Orwellian."

I know whatever I or anyone else writes is not enough to satisfy you. What I am trying to decipher is how do we take our country back?

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Big Al's picture

If we ever had it.
We're ruled by the rich, a modern day aristrocracy and it's serfs. How do we change that? Is that what we want changed?
I asked those questions the other day. It's still not clear to me enough people want to address that issue. It seems most
are content with policy issues that say we'll go for $15 per hour minimum wage by 2020, or work to expand Medicare, or
work for equal pay for women, or reforms in law enforcement.
If we want to end rule by the rich, we have to aim much higher than that.

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Big Al's picture

Different country, different circumstances, but it's really all the same ruling class and banks and corporations.
People backed Syriza because it was opposed to austerity then look what happened, it caved, the Troika got it's
blood money and the people are up shit creek without a paddle.
The rich rule Greece. They couldn't stop it with Syriza which was a new political party.
We're up against a monster.

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smiley7's picture

You may find what you are looking for at the link below; a website put together by more than 100 volunteers for Sanders, it's rather comprehensive. Once there, you can click through to the many policy positions of Sanders, including Foreign Policy and National Security.

http://feelthebern.org/

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

smiley7's picture

memory is right, the volunteer project was done in 120 days. You may already be familiar with the very large Sanders for President reddit site, but i'll provide the link, just in case: https://www.reddit.com/r/SandersForPresident/
I'm a member along with almost 100,000 volunteers and I appreciate the site's moderation. Truly, a well-managed site for reddit.

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Big Al's picture

Exactly what I was looking for.

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Shahryar's picture

what nuance! Bernie is "not a big supporter" of Netanyahu.

Sorry, that's not quite good enough.

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Thanks for the good OT and music. Can't go far here without the sounds of Blue grass filling the air. We have one full-time street performer, doesn't miss a day, unless the weather is bad. And on weekends and holidays you'll encounter musicians every 50 feet or so on main street. On Friday afternoon music on the lawn draws a few hundred people, all Bluegrass. I'm partial to a couple of young fiddle players and occasionally sit under a tree on main and soak up their wonderful skills.

On a sad note, the shootings up the hill, as the crow flies not very far away, on Smith Mountain Lake. A violent tragedy in which a TV camera crew were killed. Story is on kos. The lake is a popular get-a-way for folks from here. Damn guns and senseless violence.

Back to the good music, I'm really enjoy the Music Fog number.
Have a good day

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The latest I heard is that they have identified the shooter and think it was a disgruntled employee of the station. Killing innocent people certainly does not make sense, but then no shootings do. Our gun culture has made too many people view life as being cheap. Sad.......

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

Big Al's picture

but we're told lots of things that just aren't true. Maybe it could be something like this (I said "maybe").

“Obama’s ‘Pivot to Asia’ directed against China is reinforced through concurrent destabilizing actions on the Shanghai stock exchange. The ultimate intent is to undermine –through non-military means– the national economy of the People’s Republic of China.”

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…who wrote the Pivot to Asia.

That was just before she engineered the assassination of Gaddafi and the complete destruction of Libya, and started the gun-running program to al Qaeda in Syria to foment the destruction that nation, as well.

Those were the final two holocausts before the deliberate destruction of the Petrodollar by China and Russia — the economic era that the US has just entered.

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and failed to keep it from bursting
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Beware of a politician's promises

“What I want to emphasize is that regional or systemic financial crisis will not happen in China, and the Chinese economy will not head for a hard landing,” Li said.
Roughly seven months later, China finds itself at the epicenter of a global stock market rout that has vaporized $8 trillion in wealth. Nobody is quite sure whether the world’s No. 2 economy is really growing at 7 percent, as official figures suggest, or 6 percent -- or actually careening toward a hard landing.
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…for 2015 and beyond have been analyzed.

The World Bank calls for 7.1%

Economist Intelligence Unit (EIU) Forecasts 6.8%

International Monetary Fund (IMF) says 6.8%

United Nations (UN) quotes 6.9%

China, itself, has now forecast that China’s economy will expand 7%, slightly lower than a projection of 7.1% made six months ago, the People’s Bank of China said in a report posted on its website Tuesday.

China's advanced infrastructure and its fundamental diversification of massive projects throughout the world is presently in place and funded, so these projections are not that difficult to make and represent a global consensus. China's GDP is expected to remain in that range through 2020. This is certainly a more modest growth model than the previous decade.

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6.3% is closer to the truth

The economy expanded 6.3 percent in the first half, compared to the officially reported 7 percent, according to the median estimate of 11 economists surveyed last week. For the full year, a 6.6 percent pace was the median forecast of respondents, who were asked to nominate real growth rates, not what they expect the official data to show.

The thing with China is that there is so much credit-driven malinvestment that the debt would implode if the economy approaches normal levels.

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An anonymous poll taken by Bloomberg doesn't do it for me compared to projections from the professional organizations, above.

On the other hand, the difference between 6.6 and 7 percent doesn't seem like much to me. We are both saying that China will have the highest GDP growth in the world in 2015.

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Maybe the war isn't going well after all

The Pentagon’s inspector general is investigating allegations that military officials have skewed intelligence assessments about the United States-led campaign in Iraq against the Islamic State to provide a more optimistic account of progress, according to several officials familiar with the inquiry.

The investigation began after at least one civilian Defense Intelligence Agency analyst told the authorities that he had evidence that officials at United States Central Command — the military headquarters overseeing the American bombing campaign and other efforts against the Islamic State — were improperly reworking the conclusions of intelligence assessments prepared for policy makers, including President Obama, the government officials said.

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http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/08/meet-the-liberals-who-lov...

This is what I was talking about the other day when I said I was surprised by some of the people supporting Trump.

But it brings up a question. People are saying at the very least Bernie is talking about things others won't talk about.
Well, so is Trump. Actually, some of the things he's saying are accurate, like that politicians are bought and paid for, etc.
So in some respect, is it good that Trump is running? Can that some how push the discussion on some issues farther down
the path?

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I'd still say no, Trump running is not a good thing. Can't go there. I've said this about Occupy. I think the notion that
Occupy planted this narrative, this idea in the country about the corruption of the political system with the 99%/1% theme is
overblown. I say that because I think everybody already knew that. It's like the GEICO commercial, ya, everybody knows that.
This is shit the country has been talking about since it's inception. You can read things by Will Rogers, Orwell, etc., and farther
back talking about the same thing. You can see political cartoons from the late 1800's early 1900's telling us exactly what Trump
told the public on TV, and exactly what Sanders is saying about wealth inequality and the rich billionaires.
We know. Maybe so much of the public is brain dead most of the time that they need to be reminded but
then again, what difference does it make to most of us?

So anyway, nah, Lessig is dead wrong. Not only is what Trump is talking about not new, everybody already knows it anyway.
And Trump is a fucking billionaire, we don't need anymore fucking billionaires.

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In one way, that should be a good thing, but it is not because Trump is the epitome of the worst of the American underbelly.

I never could understand Lessig. He is all over the place and he has no credibility with me.

Now to what you have said in your comment. I somewhat disagree with this statement:

I've said this about Occupy. I think the notion that Occupy planted this narrative, this idea in the country about the corruption of the political system with the 99%/1% theme is overblown.

As someone who did participate in the Occupy Movement, I have some issues with the way you characterize Occupy. It sounds like you are one of those who never saw the value of Occupy. I read a lot of the same baloney over at dkos, especially from front pagers. It's true that no one invented the idea of the 99% versus the 1%. It has existed since the beginnings of our republic. And this is where we disagree, Al. What Occupy did was bring that conversation out in the open and create the beginnings of a social movement. People have known this in a vacuum, but Occupy gave them the first vehicle in recent memory to express that frustration with our corrupt system. Occupy created the national conversation. Without Occupy exposing what many people saw was wrong with the system, I doubt that a Bernie Sanders candidacy could have had the momentum it does today.

Nearly all change begins with social movements first. Sometimes it take many starts before a social movement develops a critical mass great enough to effect political change. I do not know if we are there, but we appear to be headed in the right direction. The single greatest factor that has me optimistic is the large numbers of young people who are showing up at the Bernie Sanders events. Regardless, change never happens overnight, not even revolutions.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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glad he wrote it, need to get negativity out of my mind and eyes. Commented, I think I said all I have to say about it. I am especially angry, because on the first listening run of the Amy Goodman intv. I didn't get it, on the second run I did. WTF, nothing to see here, pass by.

And no, Trump is not in my horizon to be discussed. This is just baloney kabuki manipulating bullshit by people who are so rich they can afford to say anything.
Trump? You suggest we should discuss this? Ok talk among yourselves. Count me out. Sorry. I need to learn to be more decisive in what I am doing... say some people. ... Smile

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diaries distracted me on the dailykos and too many personal emails and messages as well.

Just thanks for your nice music and OT, you are such a gentle trooper here. I can't even say "good morning" on time. What does that say of me and of the time and of the material I read online?

Have a good day. I commented on the shooting and I am done reading anymore. Too much.

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I hope you will not let the negativity of events get you down. There is a lot to be happy about too. Take care. Smile

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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Sorry it took me so long to reply to your fine open thread today. Between hunting up pics for my photo essay and, then re sizing them and then figuring out how to get them into the essay and all that and then just when I'm about to publish the dang thing the garage called and said they had my old pickup back together so I snagged a ride to go get it. But I finally made it here, better late than never right?

Bluegrass music is great. We are raising one of our grand daughters and we signed her up for violin lessons a little over two years ago and she's still going strong. She played a song for her kindergarten class two years ago and then last year she played for her 1st grade class. She loved it, the little ham. She has a really great teacher who is proficient in both concert type violin and bluegrass fiddle style and excellent with kids so we're very lucky to have her.

I've been playing guitar for longer than I'll ever admit but in no danger of becoming a rock star I'm afraid. I'm a slow learner, but in another ten years I'll have it down flat.

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All I want is the truth. Just give me some truth. John Lennon

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Not to worry. There is no rule here that you must acknowledge or reply to any diary here. It took me forever to compose my first diary here. I burned up JtC's pm box with lots of stupid questions due to my gross lack of technical skills. Luckily JtC was both kind and patient with me and I actually can now compose and publish all by myself! Shok Lol

That is very cool about your granddaughter learning to play the violin. Even if they never use it or become proficient at it, music is something that is good for everyone to have an opportunity to learn. Good Any of the arts make us more human and more humane.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

long car trip this morning then worked my ass off the rest of the day, I'm exhausted. Gulfgal, you posted my favorite music genre today, bluegrass, I'm a huge fan. I've lots of favorites but I'm too damn tired to even post any. A couple of quick comments and I'm going to turn in early tonight. Thanks for the tunes and OT, gg!

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It is weird that Brevard, NC where I reside much of the year, is the home of another great bluegrass band, the Steep Canyon Rangers, but I decided to go with the Stringdusters in this open thread. Perhaps it is because we have listened to the Stringdusters in our home more than the Rangers. I do hope to do another post sometime in the future that features the Steep Canyon Rangers. The Steep Canyon Rangers are a little more up town than the Stringdusters. Woody Platt, Mike Guggino, and Mike Ashworth are all from Brevard. Also Steve Martin who often sits in with them has a home near here. And Steve Martin is no slouch on the banjo either.

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“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

in that part of N.C., lots of great music has emanated from that area, not just bluegrass but mountain music and old timey, both precursors of bluegrass.

I've played blues/country/bluegrass harp for a little over 40 years, and played a dab of dobro for a few years until arthritis forced me to give it up, dobro is tough on the fingers and wrist. A group of folks that I hang with have jam sessions periodically in the warm months, usually around a campfire and sometimes small festivals, mostly blues, bluegrass and lots of old timey. I don't participate as much as I used to but did a lot when i was younger.

My maternal family is from the hills of Kentucky and being of Scots/Irish and German descent, it is in my blood, nothing gets my blood flowing like hearing a fiddle ringing, mandolin chunking and a steel guitar wailing. I love all music but especially bluegrass.

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In my initial post, I said how I (and we) discovered how we found and loved bluegrass. Mexican restaurant plus bluegrass. Weird, but true. One thing about the Stringdusters is they no longer have a mandolin. I love the sound of a mandolin.

I love hearing how much you are a part of bluegrass. Perhaps you should write about it some time. Wink

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy