And We're Back!
Submitted by Shahryar on Sun, 07/03/2016 - 4:09pm
I've missed you all! So much has happened since the site started undergoing whatever that was.
We're now reassured that Bill and Lynch only talked about golf and grandchildren. Cory Booker says so! He knows! Because that's what Bill and Lynch said so it must be true. And anyway it's not a big deal.
I was going nutty, not having a place to talk about all of this. Obviously I wasn't going there. This place, c99p, is my lifeboat.
Comments
Glad To Be Back!
Do we know what's been causing the issues?
Is Aidan walking yet? What does Charlotte have to say about her absent abuela?
Sorry about the downtime folks...
we had a major database issue. Nope, it wasn't a DDoS.
The good news is, there's still one day left of the holiday weekend that I get to enjoy with family. Yahoo!!
Thanx for the info, was starting to get paranoid
Helluva thing when you not only can't trust your own government, you know you shouldn't trust your own government....
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Don't apologize.
What do you want to bet that people all over the US were thinking about you? Concerned. I know I was.
You have a lot on your plate, Johnny, and when the site goes down, it's really stressful to think about all the people depending on you to steer this ship.
Thank you for that and more.
Right, don't apologize -
Most of us realize how f'ing hard you work at this.
I was worried that you were under attack by the "forces that be." Thankfully - apparently - not.
Please enjoy some well-earned free time, and know that your works are important, contributing, and appreciated!
The spirit of party serves to enfeeble the Public Administration,
agitates with Jealousies and false alarms, and opens the door to corruption,
which finds access to the government itself through the channels of party passions.
George Washington
Now that it's up, I just threw a mostly full roll of quarters
your way, not literally. Hope it helps to get over the headaches of the past few days.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Thanks rl
Many thanks JtC...
have some roasted corn on the cob, watermelon and all the 4th 'fixins' and enjoy.
From our local family to yours; love this piece; especially Doc's big smiles at the end.
Take your shoes off, sit a spell!
Nice Job JtC...
For some reason broken websites always happen when the timing is worse...
I has a friend re-theme one of my sites for me on Saturday...
I just finished tying up all the loose ends left behind...
Maybe, I'm sure there are a few I haven't found yet...
It's a nice new theme though...
Good to see C-99 back and I wasn't even tempted to visit Orange State...
I'm the only person standing between Richard Nixon and the White House."
~John F. Kennedy~
Economic: -9.13, Social: -7.28,
Thank you very much for spending most of your
holiday weekend getting the site back up.
Do we need a fundraiser?
So sorry your weekend was taken up with this. How can we help?
Please help support caucus99percent!
Thanks doc...
it comes with the territory, weekend or not. I only wish that folks do what they can, no pressure on anyone. If anyone is tapped out, no problems, been there and done that before, I really do understand.
Done! Only $50 but on $11.50/hr, it's the best
I could do right now.
I challenge everyone else to match or beat me if you can.
As a refugee, I wholeheartedly appreciate everything you do!
Thanks Deja...
love that chicken avatar!
My donation is not Pending at my bank
Hope it went through. I got a confirmation email from PayPal, but it's not listed as pending - only Netflix is. And, I didn't see it in completed transactions either. Maybe I overlooked it?
Yay! Both that it wasn't a DDoS and that you have another
day to enjoy!
I had to go yell at the fireworks shooters. Now I can enjoy my calm blue waters in peace.
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Thanks for the work at getting the site back up JtC....
And also, whether you did this intentionally or not, a personal thanks: I can like posts again! Well, so far....Not letting down my guard, you understand....Oh shit, I just jinxed it didn't I?
"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
-- John Lennon
Ay-yup, for 30 minutes
Maybe ya have had to have some experience of working in media, to REALLY know how l-o-n-g 30 minutes is in real time. THIRTY MINUTES.
About grandchildren ( Billy has 1 who can't yet talk, and 1 a few days old!) - what's to say?
Golf. Mr. Mulligan is still playing golf? who knew? who cares!
Great interview - can't remember who was speaking to Loretta, asking her if there was anything she wished Holder had told her, her answer:"how to lock the plane door." and they laughed.
Frank Luntz blabbing with tucker carlson on faux news, only place that even covers any of this, said he thinks it is Billy SABOTAGING, unconsciously? $hrillary. Kind of agree - they really don't have anything to do with each other - a lot of competition when in WH. She abhorred his "college bull sessions with his staff" which all the women in Hillaryland called "the white boys."
Bet even all the atheists are praying for indictment!
Yeah it's back!
Dag I had to go to fb where I was confronted with some good jokes, some nice garden pic, endless drivel and a few cc99%'ers who like me hit the fb. Thanks JtC for whatever you did to fix the blog. Another thing about fb. I can comment in 10 word or less.
Like with NPR and the rest MSM I'm not going back to FB either.
The former have betrayed me deeply and once I walk I'm gone. The latter just pains me greatly.
I'm going to rant a little here...What a sheer fucking waste of potential Farcebook is; it's no end of frustration and disgust for me. Could (and should) have been revolutionary in terms of having a worldwide conversation about how bad we've been fucked by a cabal of financial elites who own and control us with debt, a place for the 99% to share ideas and alternative news to the MSM manufactured controversy, expose the fraud and congeal into a powerful political and social force instead of remaining divided and conquered. To share the many similar stories we all have of working longer hours for less, watching our pensions slip away, the cost of living rise so fast, the albatross of medical/consumer and college debt dragging us all down, etc. Could have galvanized an unstoppable "Occupy x 1 million movement" across the globe.
Instead we have to wade through insufferable self-aggrandizement by boring, self-involved people we hardly remember (because we all "friended" our former schoolmates, though there may have been a few good re-acquaintances). Worst of all, and even your damnedest to try not to, you still can't avoid remembering the lamest kind of hollow minutiae from your feed, like who had a certain kind of sandwich, what their kid's soccer team did, etc. And the fucked up thing is you do remember this kind of insignificant shit. I don't want to commit to memory this kind of stuff, and Farcebook is a torrent of this bullshit. There are far too many books I want to read, things I want to learn , etc than to be wasting brain space on mundane trivialties broadcast by pretty boring folks.
I think of it in the way you'd hear your parents say when you're a kid to not waste any food on your plate because there's kid's starving in Africa. Given such a privilege how can we then waste it on frivolity? There are so many marginalized, beaten down, oppressed, starving, dying and unjustly imprisoned people all over the world, how can we not use such a forum as FB to call attention to such privation? It could have been a great tool to build empathy and compassion. Instead we frittered it away on self-indulgent pictures. "All through the day, I Me Mine, I Me Mine, I Me Mine," sang George Harrison.
Like TOP, Google, the DNC, and so many more who have been exposed as frauds I haven't been back to FB either.
So good to have the C99 lifeboat back! You folks are kindred rebel spirits.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
I still maintain my FB virginity
Getting back in contact with a bunch of people I've spent my life trying to avoid? No thank you.
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Of course DD! You just continue to rise in my estimation,
which I didn't think was possible because of the magnificent heights you've always occupied.
How are things, any chance you're thinking of heading to Philly?
#SeeYouInPhilly
#NeverHillaryOrTrump
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Sadly no
I've got a corporate leadership hootenanny I'm obliged to attend that week. Dammit.
Please help support caucus99percent!
I am with you all the way and wished that rant
were mine. The worst thing is that FB automatically sends you the birthdays of your "friends" - especially those who are already dead.
Have you ever accidentally called a number of someone, who is deceased and get his/her voicemail announcement? Feels like the ghosts have arisen from hell and want to haunt you for disturbing them in their graves. Same thing with the birthday reminders...
I haven't used facebook at all, after I saw that some dear youngish extended family member refused to send normal emails to tell you what they want to tell you and only contact you via facebook. Thus forcing you to use it. No way.
Darn, in the old days, and where my former better half came from, people walked for miles to meet you to talk to you. Now those youngsters think they can just call you anytime and next you know they force you to use fancy software on more fancy gadgets that costs a lot of money for just letting you know the had participated in the latest "run for breastcancer" fundraiser or some other nothingness. Nah, not with me...
That's the lovestory. It started harmless
then it turned serious
but our commander in chief knew what to do in that dangerous situation:
I mean ... would you kiss a Zuckerberg (mountain of sugar)? Too sweet for my taste.
https://www.euronews.com/live
FB provides the illusion of community. In reality it's a data
mining and surveillance trap, with the appearance that we're all having so much fun. I hear you mimi, the whole bday reminder thing is such a cheap pander among many, and sometimes results in awkward exchanges/circumstances.
After Occupy, which was this incredible living social experiment of Dreaming In Public and real public square democracy in action, something as staid and self-absorbed as FB became such a stale facsimile of the kind of huge overwhelming endorphin release that showered over my entire being every single time I was there.
There is no substitute for in-person gatherings, especially ones motivated by folks compelled to stand together arm in arm for a better world. That knowing feeling of deep camaraderie just pulsing around the crowd, sparkling from eye to eye, pinballing around the assembled, is the greatest gift we could share with one another, knowing we're not alone in these idealistic dreaming and rebelling. We dangerously seem willing to replace that with social media.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
yeah, I agree,
I know I am a bit extreme with my FB dislike, may be because I don't have family or friends in real life who use it. So, I don't miss it. I know for some it's an important tool. I don't want to say that I don't understand those, who really like and need it.
I can't stand the anonymity online. My son says all his FB friends are ones he knows in real life since years. I still warn him to use it too much. I like to know the persons I am talking to in real life. A person to person gathering beats the insight and understanding of a person you talk to hundred times, imo.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I understand what you mean, mimi
My uncle has been having heart problems and my aunt at least called to let me know about it. I've called them a few times to see how he is doing and today I checked FB and see that his problems have escalated and he's having another procedure on the 5th. He posted it on 6/27.
Gee, thanks for the heads up.
I only joined FB to try to sell my photos and was hoping for my friends and family to help spread the word.
They just send me stupid stuff and my uncle posts some other persons photos. I had emailed my aunt a photo of her and my mom and she didn't say anything about his problems. Sigh. It's not like they are the only family I have left. But they are.
How frustrating for you that even with FB and phone
you find yourself out of the loop. I have similar problems. Leads to paranoia.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
how to talk about golf for 30 minutes
"well, Loretta, I looked for a nice level spot in the tee box, put my tee into the ground, put my ball on the tee so the dimples wouldn't reflect the sun back in my face, stepped back a little, looked down the fairway...." etc.
30 minutes later, wake Lynch up.
It was 115 degrees in Phoenix that day.
I buy everything else. The whole spontaneous bubble-think stupidity. But I don't, for one minute, buy the golf.
Exactly.
And I understand that AG Lynch doesn't even play golf.
My theory is that Bill was just being his usual arrogant (and in a human-interaction-self-aware-sense stupid) self. This theory is abutted by the fact that there's been deathly silence out of the Clinton camp.
I think he felt that if he just showed his pallid-self-important face before his "beholden-friend" (Clintons have no other kind) he would impress upon her the need to serve the greater good of the Deep State, and its current best avatar - HRC.
The spirit of party serves to enfeeble the Public Administration,
agitates with Jealousies and false alarms, and opens the door to corruption,
which finds access to the government itself through the channels of party passions.
George Washington
Bill has a bad habit of thinking he can get away with stuff
and that his opponents somehow aren't watching his every move (see: Lewinsky, Monica). He probably figured this little jaunt would not come to the public's attention. I think Loretta Lynch was ambushed - as an experienced prosecutor I doubt she would have agreed to this ahead of time, and she has already said she wishes she had locked the door.
"How long can you talk about your grandkids?" - not long, unless the subject is "My grandkids shouldn't have to visit their grandma in the pokie."
I can well attest that
sitting on the ramp in a jet, in Phoenix, at 115 degrees, even for thirty minutes, is a special kind of hell.
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
WHY? DOES? ANYONE? EVER? LIVE? IN? PHOENIX??!!??
The Native American Peoples of that part of the Continent never maintained a permanent settlement where Phoenix is today.
Methinks they knew something fucking idiot white people (see "Mad Dogs and Englishmen") don't.....
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I work from there,
but I won't live there...to the point of living four hours away, at 5000'. (I only commute back and forth about once a week.)
"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X
As if the temps aren't bad enough
Our humidity has arrived two months early.
Summer in Phoenix mentally confuses me because it feels like winter back home... hunkered down, imitating local wildlife and only leaving our burrows at night for errands.
No way in HELL he was golfing. He's not accustomed to it and would have dropped in his tracks on the first hole.
"When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained." - Mark Twain
Yahoo. Thanks Johnny, you brought it back up, now ...
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Yikes the withdrawal
was bad, even with my own personal addiction (the Tour de France) being satisfied.
I even visited LOF and the amount to total pretzelizing over there is enough to cause seasickness. I am so glad that we are back. Thank you Johnny!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
yay!
and phew! both at once. i'm glad to hear that it wasn't a ddos.
thanks jtc for all the work you have been doing to keep things working! i hope that you can enough baseball, hot dogs, mom's apple pie and relaxation with the family to at least somewhat make up for the overtime.
There's nothing like...
working on a live database on a holiday weekend to get the blood flowing.
Hillary was
"Happy to Volunteer" to be interviewed.
Because afterall, "if you haven't done anything wrong -- you don't have anything to worry about"
-- If you're Hillary and Billary that is.
Nevermind that her own State Dept, concluded she did "many things wrong."
Happy! I tell ya.
(I wonder if Comey is feeling the glee?)
Heh, Johnny you did it ! Now I am telling you what I was
thinking all the time ... arggh very, very bad stuff...
1. C99p was hacked by those TOP evil doers ...
2. NSA hackers were after some super-duper dangerous alleged terrorists among us and had just to get into JtC's network to catch all our secrits.
3. JtC was so pissed off that he can't get a decent vacation time, he just thought about the most easy thing and put up the "we are under maintenance" page to leave him all alone, so he could go fishing.
4. I thought that this downtime should be repeated, because it's actually a good thing to do some research about our dependency on our C99p home. In case it could be measured how often each of us tried to access the site and in what intervals etc, and put the results in a good spreadsheet, and hand it over to the "mental health researchers", we could get a good insight into our addictive tendencies. Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the most addicted of us all?
5. Well, then I thought that we behave like the worst corporations. Let poor JtC work like a serf for free. Shame on us. He must get paid. Don't you understand that you are not better than all the other overlords that exploit their workers... I am serious.
And then I broke out in cold sweat, because I couldn't remember if I had sent JtC the money I promised to match in my last fundraiser I attempted. As my head isn't working that great anymore, I looked into my paypal account and it didn't look like I had sent it. I wanted JtC to check and send me a message, if I did or didn't in another way. Sigh. No good to lose your mind, I am telling you.
Ok, cheers all, so nice to be back, have all a St. Pauli Girls beer and be happy. Enjoy the rest of a long weekend.
https://www.euronews.com/live
I made up for what I forgot, sorry for that, JtC, don't know
where my head has been lately.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Thank you...
mimi, my dear.
I swear I was going to donate a few days ago
and the site went down before I could. So I did not break it. And have now donated, may we stay forever young.
mimi, I am trying out a tangerine IPA from New Belgium brewery. Cold, it hits the spot. I fell in love with Fat Tire, until a waiter called me and a friend fatties. Not exactly, but we voiced offendedness.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Glad You Are Back
I kept checking for you and hoping no one hired a contractor currently living in Oakland, California.
A dreamer is one who can only find his way by moonlight, and his punishment is that he sees the dawn before the rest of the world. Oscar Wilde
tell the waiter he should bring you a
that's a Germanized beer bitch or else he should just go to
What a big fat jerk, as I would say in my best German ...
https://www.euronews.com/live
ein groß und fett Ruck!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
if I just could understand German ...
??? ... I think it said something nice, right?
https://www.euronews.com/live
not quite!
Not quite. It means "a big fat jerk"!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
ein groß und fett Ruck!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Well, I am so happy the site is up,
I could turn flips.
I didn't go to TOP because I did yesterday for a few minutes, realized it is the kind of place people go that I do not like to be around in a social context.
So, after spending some hours at TPW, I realize it is a place for Progressive Democrats to go. Over and over, they will vote for HRC if they must, in order to beat Trump.
I was surprised a Bernie or Bust attitude, or 3rd party movement attitude , is not particularly welcomed there. I think the site will go all out for HRC if she wins the nom.
In that event, the site will not be able to compete with TOP.
Let's see if my crystal ball is working.
Oh, and Johnny, I am so sorry your family time got intruded upon and hope the rest of it will be fun for you and yours!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
During the C99 blackout withdrawal was pleased to be able to
get filled in on stuff through the KFS reddit thread. Good links, informative conversation, and some familiar faces.
Yeah, the anti-3rd Party stuff is bizarre. But Bernie or Bust is too? Funny, always thought of them as a sort of sister group. Guess I haven't looked around too much then. I understand being all in for Bernie. But if the DNC continues to throw sand in his face, such as they did at the platform meetings, I'd hope they'd come around to the reality that they're being bamboozled.
Relieved and content too to be here with you folks again!
#SeeYouInPhilly
#NeverHillaryOrTrump
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
I didn't stay there long.
I mentioned this site, some complained they were treated rudely here because they want to reform the Dem party from the inside.
And Trump.
So, I checked to see if Leipar Destin has any actual purpose for his site, and didn't find it.
I just think it is a progressive wing of the democratic party place.
Anybody here can school me if I have it wrong.
I read a good article, saw some good videos and didn't particularly like the comments.
It just seems to be a place where democrats that wish Bernie had gotten the nom hang.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
"treated rudely"
"Treated rudely", i.e., made to confront the fact that the Democratic Party is not reformable, and must therefore be destroyed.
Reality, oftener than not, sucks big green pickles. And the reality of "reforming the Democratic Party" is one such. If that's rude treatment, we need to be rude. The day and age of the nicey-nice liar has ended, and nary a moment too soon.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Your comments are great, Mark. I've been reading them
…all over the site. Really engaging and insightful.
I enjoy hanging out over at Reddit and like the folks there very much. It is a much different culture, however. I think those differences are understood both here and there, We are complimentary in effect. Nonetheless, I snagged a bit of conversation one day and copied it. I thought it nailed the differences in an interesting way.
Names are changed:
Right back atcha, Pluto.
You have my admiration and respect.
Thanks for the lowdown about the KFS. I occasionally find myself there supplementing my intake here, but not that often.
I'm not that aware of any dislike here (I certainly don't have any and remain appreciative of the many on-the-ground activist efforts there). Like you said, it's just a different flavor but from folks on the same side, as far as I can tell. There's a bunch of folks I've always dug from TOP such as mahakali_overdrive2 and mass southpaw and others whose intellect and commitment I admire.
I agree that both places are symbiotic.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
I got that sense as well at TPW
and many there think that this site is weird because we are not partizan. Whatever, they mean well until they don't.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
I am glad it was not just me.
No matter how much I respect LD, I am not going to fall in goose step and vote for Hillary because Trump.
No use in starting shit with people there I think are really good people, but with whom I ardently disagree.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
on the cusp
I saw the conversation you had with a few people about how they were treated on this site because they wanted to change the Democratic Party from the inside.
Or they have other complaints that they had about this site.
You did well, thanks.
I agree with your statement that even though they are against everything Hillary stands for, they will vote for her anyway 'because of Trump'.
I did go over to LOF and read the diary about how Hillary isn't going to be charged with anything because she didn't do anything wrong. Again they think Powell having a private email account is the same as Hillary having a private email SERVER are the same thing.
TPW had some great links to articles that show that what she did was wrong.
Here's the one I think that if it was anyone but Hillary, they would have been charged already.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/teneo-final-221807
I hope people read it. It shows how Hillary bent even more rules about how the state department is supposed to work.
Missed you all
I like Facebook. I keep in touch with my friends and family in different parts of the world, share a lot of political and science and other news on like minded groups and send messages/chat with people in the village. I also use it as a sort of index for articles I want to save and write an essay from later.
I spent maybe a couple hours at BNR and commenting on two other essays (one about fracking, another about email)... that was fun as well, not that I convinced anybody of anything. But at least no one was being overtly insulting to me personally, although they really have it in for Igualidad.
I did a major house cleaning, major washing day and watched four pretty good movies: 'Election', where Reese Witherspoon as a teenager plays Hillary Clinton in High School. 'Syriano', "In this town an investigation is equal to an indictment." and 'The Clique' where we see how cliquey bullying billionaire teenagers live. I forgot the fourth one. LOL. I also read a few chapters of 'Drone Warfare' and the new scandal book on Hillary 'Crisis of Character'.
My major issue of the weekend is: DOJ Donors To Clinton . Just wondering how many of these people will be in the decision making process.
From the Light House.
I have a FB account
set up for me by someone else, and after she and I exchanged a few pictures, I noticed friends started popping up. After I got all flattered, it seems all or most of them had a "quick legal question", "No need for an appointment to come in and discuss", blah blah blah.
Like, "I have my grand baby and my daughter is on meth, the alleged father is coming to take the baby from me, and he is on parole, but carries a gun. What are my rights?"
Or, "Could you look at the divorce petition I filed myself, tell me if I did it correctly? It won't take you but a minute to look it over. We really don't have anything, so do not need to pay a lawyer."
And then they will always have some pray away the gay signature, or a rebel flag, or a picture of themselves with a gun and some dead animal.
It has been years since I spent my initial month on FB.
No thanks.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Sheer speculation, of course
But I could see the Lynch meeting going down like this:
Bill and Loretta really were randomly in the same place at the same time.
Bill: "whose damned plane is that in our way?"
SS: "sir, that's AG Lynch's plane"
Bill: "Loretta, eh? You know, I should touch base with her. Tell her I'll be there in 10 minutes, gotta hit the loo."
Agent: "ma'am, President Clinton will be here in 5 minutes"
Loretta: "What?!? Is he crazy? Tell that senile old pervert that I won't..."
(sound of plane door opening)
Loretta: "Oh, hello, Mr. President"
Bill: "Loretta, baby, long time no see! How's the grandkids? You here to play golf? Say, Hillary's campaign is going great, she's certain to win. You know, she'll need an AG, and there'll be some Supreme Court vacancies that need filling. Be a real shame if something were to happen to knock her out of the race."
Loretta: (presents her best poker face while thinking) "what the absolute fuck did this idiot just do? did he really just offer me a bribe in front of witnesses?" "That's great, Mr. President, uh, let me spend 30 minutes telling you all about my grandkids."
Fault of Hillary: 0%, fault of Loretta: 0%, fault of senile Bubba: 100%.
Regardless, this is what we have to expect from Clinton White House 2, Bubba's Last Stand. He'll be flying around striking deals without consulting Hillary or anyone else, then forgetting to tell anyone about them. Bull in a china shop, or Bubba in China.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
I'm not keeping up with local cyberspace. TPW?
TPW is what?
On another note, I had some thoughts and observations like yours, on the cusp. But in a different area.
I was looking around at various online forums, not necessarily political, but places where politics have entered the conversation. I've also been looking at how stunned the UK establishment was over the Brexit vote. And how stunned the GOP establishment was over the Trump vote. And how blazingly stunned the Dem establishment was over the explosive popularity of Sanders.
The drivers of all three electoral outcomes are workers and the working class upending the establishment. They are reeling from Neoliberal globalization policies and the Rule of the Almighty Corporation — both of which have betrayed them for predatory capitalism and Global Financial Totalitarianism.
Most importantly, there is a growing intuition among the middle and lower classes that they are marked for death through neglect and depopulation. They are not needed for "jobs" any longer. Technology has replaced them. The people's economy is shrinking around them and opportunity is suffocating. It is clear that the Corporate State has absolutely no intention of feeding or housing them or providing health care to them. They now realize that the reason the US has no real infrastructure is because the American people are just not worth it. And there is no investment in human capital in the US (a healthy and educated society) because the American people just aren't worth it.
From what I observe, the disenfranchised are keeping their powder dry, but they do plan to vote, and vote with a vengeance. They have every intention of voting to destroy whichever establishment assumes it has controls over them. I feel it in the real world, too. People are guarded. They can now hear the lies, and that's a brand new thing in the US. It think it explains the raw fear that keep places like TOP on the bleeding edge of panic. They feel it, too.
Polling is not going to work anymore, because no one will admit where their vote is going. That's exactly what happened in the Brexit vote. It happened during the Republican primaries, as well. The Sanders voters were more open about it, which required extraordinary efforts to counter the trend. But if the UN saw the exit polls, they would have called it a discredited election. (That's the metric that all national elections are judged by. The Democraitic primary exit polls failed massively. The World Court would have voided it for a redo, based on exit polls, alone.)
In the places I observed, no one said it exactly this way, but I think their attitude is — if you are not deliberately voting for Hillary's defeat by voting for an opponent who can win, then your intention is not to destroy the Democratic Party but to launch it beyond any possibility of change. One more successful election for either party, and the working class will be done. They will be targeted for active neglect.
I believe there are voters in the US who are not going to let that happen. They are not activists and they do not participate on sites like this. But they could turn the establishment upside down and throw the government into chaos. A very hopeful chaos. A Symbolic Referendum — regardless the risk — is the only hope that the Millennials have, at this point.
This possibility is not unfamiliar to academic economists. It's being discussed.
The Progressive Wing TPW - New Home of BNR author
LieparDestin. I like his site and go there now more regularly. It's also listed at the left hand side here.
https://www.euronews.com/live
The progressive wing
of what? the Democrat's lol. The progressives who fold like cheap tents and pump fear and loathing and tell you it's just groovy to support the RW wing Democratic style? I am proudly no longer a Democrat. What kinda party is this? Nothing I want anything to do with. What's with LD that he thinks there is a progressive end of the Democratic party after this rigged primary. It showed a lot of people exactly how corrupt and RW the Democratic party is. No offense he's a great Bernie supporter but still.
Testify, Pluto's Republic!
When I was at TPW actually sticking up for this site, whom commenters thought would go off the deep end, I said this place is solid, full of intelligent free thinkers, not bound and gagged by party affiliation, very free wheeling.
And what you just posted is the exemplar.
I defined deep end as violence and ct.
They defined it as not voting for democrats.
I am glad I am old, and glad I have no kids or grandkids to fret about.
Working class people are not needed like they once were, and if they happen to die off, en masse, well...
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I remember now. They identify as members of the Democratic
…Party, right? They must be the "Sander voters who are returning to the fold" — that the propaganda news keeps touting. How reassuring. #They'reWithHer now. Or did I misread that?
Thanks, mimi.
I didn't read that much, just found some links to
stories there, I hadn't seen otherwise.
Other than that, I read whatever I read. If they are "WithHernow" it wouldn't make much sense to me. And I don't know if his site stands for people "who return to the fold". I really didn't look for that. LieparDestin wasn't "with her" before, otherwise he wouldn't have gone through the effort to produce the BNR each day.
And usually I don't think I have to prove where I stand by limiting myself to read only sites that support the ideas that match mine with regards where I stand. To me personally that doesn't make sense. I am not US citizen, can't vote here and basically just watch what Americans discuss and might vote for. I have my ideas what I would do, if I were a US citizen, but that's certainly not of any relevance here. I hope they vote either for Sanders or for a third party. I hope for yuuuge change.
Okay ?
https://www.euronews.com/live
Heck, I'm not judging. Just trying to keep up with
…the shifting sands. I spend half my time reading the Right Wing. It's useful anthropology.
I'm in the same boat as you. I don't have a candidate in this race. I don't even have a race. None of it applies to me. I'm not in the club. But the discussions and outcome are very important to the rest of the world. And that matters.
I do what I can to shame and disgrace the war mongers, serial killers, and war criminals who occupy the White House.
It's a full time job.
Ah those shifting sands
May they ever shift and may we all be afraid very afraid of what the shifts my bring. Too hard to face and not enough confidence in what humans are capable of doing.God knows we can't have populism break out all over. The world would fall into endless fascism cause people are too stupid to figure out what's going down. I think not.
Pluto, sorry, you know very well, that I can't keep up
with anything at all compared to all the people I read here and especially not with a person of your research caliber and fortitude. I didn't mean to be critical. I just try to not lose my balance when the shifting sand is washed away under my feet and make me fall and I fear to drown in the currents.
Heck, there is so much I don't understand, but I live a very isolated life and as such this place is my home for talking and asking questions or ranting out my frustration and make some noise to poke some fun. There are quite some issues I only understand by listening or reading msm media from France and Germany and I don't care if they are judged "neo-liberal" or not, as long as they give me information in a way that is short, informative and without much hot air.
I read here and other sites in the US too. So, I guess that gives me what I need the most.
Peace.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Fuck the TPW, whateave that is.
Is this part of the Democratic 'party'? Kinda like Dean the dirty rat who preached the 'democratic wing of the Democratic party' and is now a lobbyist for the 'healthcare industry'. So forget about it . Shame away fools tell me I'm a racist or a supporter of fascism or the reason I won't knuckle and vote for the bitch is because I'm this that or the other and do not care .
I'm not properly concerned about immigrants (refugees from our war on terra) , fascists, Tories, Republicans, haters of women, UKIP or any of their binary bs. No I do not support the pig ignorant hateful people of UKIP or Trump or the EU. IMF, World Bank, Davos Crowd , State Department picks for slaughter or the poor 116 people who got droned. lol.
What kind of world throws this shit out and expects anyone with a brain in their head to believe their bs? Enough with the Chicken Little mentality. Who care what these globalizing assholes with their free markets and mass killing of humans say. The slight of the invisible hand tells you it's gonna wreck your world and plunge us all off cliffs of fiscal mass destruction. Don't believe them it's pure evil. They lie we die.
Identity politics is nothing I can even comprehend let alone identify with. Beyond my grasp as a human being who's watching this madness passed off as politics.
I used to like to watch the wheels go round and round . No longer. Even that rich git John Lennon if alive, could not stomach what we are told is politics and our only choice.
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