KOS is in the past and you can not reason with them or even have a good time there. So come on over here and hang out with people that enjoy and respect your opinions and writings (include me). Stop wasting your time, it is too value and precious thing to give away.

For example, I do not agree with your decision to vote for Clinton, but I do not yell or jump on you about it. It is your decision, and I respect it. That is what is important about this community, we can agree to disagree and have good discussions while trying to reason and understand with each other. Sometimes that will not be easy to do, but at least you have the opportunity to provide your voice to the community.

I don't go over to top at all. Just signed up here and love the focus. It doesn't help Bernie to support that site so no reason to go. I'm a born Dem. but, if Bernie does not get nom I will be leaving Dem party and going Independent. I don't share values with Dem party anymore, actually they left me a long time ago.
Hope to see more of you here.

Do you think he believes Bernie is correct about the delegate count and superdelegates, or that there will almost certainly be a contested convention in Philly?
http://www.c-span.org/video/?408915-1/bernie-sanders-holds-news-conferen...

I've only watched this three times (math was never my strong point; I can do math, but I don't think in numbers), and each time I hear/see something more intriguing about it.

"I wonder how _____ (name of pundit, pollster, "news" person, etc.) is going to react to a contested Democratic Convention?" More importantly, "How will Hillary react to a contested convention?"

"I wonder what will happen if the delegates and superdelegates do not go along wit the will of the people in each of their states and cast their votes for Bernie Sanders? Or are they going to vote against the wishes of the hoi polloi and force their candidate down everyone's throat?"

Inquiring minds really, really, REALLY want to know! Minnesota has only three supers who have endorsed Bernie (one is my Rep); one has 'None' in the endorsed column, and all the rest endorsed Hillary before or just after the DNC Summer Meeting in Mpls last Aug. Bernie won the MN caucus by a large margin (large enough for Bernie to mention it). And WHY did some states give their delegates to Hillary even though Bernie won their states rather handily? How fucking rude!!!

I do not accept that Hillary "must" be the Dem candidate "because it's her turn since she lost to Obama in '08, she earned it (How?), she deserves it (Why?), and it's about time we had a female president (True, but no one is talking like that about Carly Fiorina, and no one talked about that when the Tundra Tramp was the VP pick in '08 - it takes more than having two X chromosomes to justify voting for a woman). No sane person would vote for a woman "just because she is a woman."

Just accept the fact that not that many people like or trust Hillary because she's a warmongering DINO who will once again promote TPP and get us involved in more unconstitutional, unjustified, and illegal wars we still can't afford, who will keep our medical insurance and care under corporate control, who would give our Social Security to Wall Street - privatize Soc Sec to "protect" it). The majority of people just do not want Hillary as president (almost any other qualified woman who has a political platform like Bernie's would be acceptable, just NOT Hillary who will revert back to her DINO status immediately if she's nominated and/or elected somehow). Closed primary states who denied Indys and R's the right to cross-vote for Bernie, and delegates have been given to Hillary even though Bernie has won the popular vote in some states are the only reasons Bernie "lost" in those cases (those states really ought to think about not listing political affiliation in their voting registration forms).

In the general election, I would fully expect Bernie to win in a landslide. Brainwashing does not necessarily work when it comes to trying to force people to vote for Hillary.

[3] The 2016 Election WILL Be Stolen - Here's How (with Greg Palast) [VIP]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MUxPXld_hA

[90] Google Will Steal Election, Hillary Is Corporate Shill, & CPAC Infiltrated
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBxGSD22710

[93] Bernie Getting Cheated, U.S. Arming Both Sides, & Much More" [Comedy/ News]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=retFDQ4VMFQ

[97] Election Fraud Special Report! (You Won't Believe This)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmYYvZASoks

not just with Bernie supporters.

why anyone who knew the facts would vote for Hillary Clinton.

To quote Doug Henwood, in summary, again:

As promised earlier, I've paid little heed in these pages to Hillary's policy positions. Hillary is a model of position production, but there's little reason to trust any of her proposals. I've chosen instead to look at her history, which is not inspiring. (125)

The flesh-and-blood Hillary Clinton goes from being on the board at union-busting Wal-Mart, to being the First Lady who tried to screw us over in health insurance and screwed it up through her penchant for secrecy, to being the First Lady who made a speech about "superpredators" and campaigned for the Welfare Bill and stuck with her racist dogwhistles and anti-poor stances in 2008, to being the Secretary of State who screwed Honduras and Haiti and Libya and Syria while designing the TPP, to Servergate and her "Foundation" slush fund and her fraud-filled campaign.

She'll be like a Republican, except MORE EFFECTIVE because y'all Democrats will be making excuses or at least believing other people's excuses for what she's been doing. Why not allow a Republican in the White House? Clinton's appointment of anyone decent to the Supreme Court is NOT guaranteed, not by a long shot, and she's likely to give you Republican policies with far greater effectiveness than that buffoon Trump. She's intelligent, to be sure -- but intelligent in a way that hurts you and me. A lot.

Maybe Sanders will endorse Clinton, I don't know. If he does, we'll all be looking for another political revolution. Tribalism is like eating things that cause you heartburn -- it's the habit you like that doesn't like you.

A. IF self-driving cars will cause more people to have sex while traveling, what happens when they create self-driving shopping carts?

B. Australia is inducing fish herpes in wild carp in an effort to limit their out of control growth in numbers. What should we induce in Cruz and Trump supporters?

C. In which of these items has an image of Jesus NOT been seen?
Chicago El Train bridge rust
Grease in a pizza container
Oil stains outside of Jiffy Lube in Miami
The hair on a dwarf deer's butt in Minnesota
Used diaper of a 1 yr old.
Asphalt cracks on a California highway
Wall stains in Manchester United's men's lav after a game with Arsenal
Ketchup stains in an ARBY's super beef wrapper
A Midland TX sewer pipe leading from a college dorm
Freshly baked Naan
On the top layer of a new Marmite jar
Grilled cheese sandwich
Mack truck tire tread

(OK. Trick question - these were all sightings in the last year.)

D. If 1/3 of the time, doctors prescribe the wrong medication, the wrong dose, get your diagnosis wrong, chart your history incorrectly, or miss the real problem from which you suffer, does whale shit float to the surface or sink to the bottom of the sea?

"You're absolutely right. Hillary should drop out of the race, so the Sanders supporters can focus their time and resources on the down ballot."

the more I come to understand how ruthless Hillary is and will be, as POTUS.

I don't care if Trump wins or not, I'll vote for a 3rd party without Bernie.

I read how, when Manual Zelaya turned further to the left in 2008, after he joined ALBA and established ties with Cuba and Venezuela, he became enemy number one with the Honduran rightwing and their associated bourgeoisie.

Hillary joined forces with the Honduran corporate class, a country which historically has had one of the highest Gini coefficient indexes of income inequality in the world, and she assisted in the generals' coup. We know this from her emails released in 2015 and 2016. The story was not so clear before that time.

It's wishful thinking that she will do anything that will benefit the working class in the US. More than likely, she will add to the misery and poverty which already exists here. There's nothing that Bernie can say that will change that reality in my mind.

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Off topic, but can anyone here go over and post on Bob Johnson's diary about HRC's determination to "take it to Denver" and thank him a million times for me (I've been banned). His diary amply demonstrates how full of it the opposition is about Bernie taking it to Philly.

It reminds me of the way DKOS used to feel when I started going there during the 2004 primary. Lots of exciting, interesting writers with whom I have a lot in common. It's that "I'm not alone" feeling. Funny, I felt alone in 2004 because I was surrounded by Republicans. I felt that way at TOP recently because I was surrounded by Hillary "Democrats." There's nothing like a bunch of alleged Democrats chiding you for wanting "free stuff" to make you feel totally disoriented.

entertaining and wise (which is why it pisses them off so), am amazed you're not banned (yet), and agree with you. After all the silencing of Hill's critics, all the rejection, for Kos to think he can motivate us to do anything now is such chutzpah. I will work for down ballot progressives just like I've been working for Bern, but it has nothing to do with Kos. In fact, I make no special effort to read him or the front page, mostly reading what Bern blogs remain and uprating the comments until the Hill people jump in and I get tired of them. Then back to the pootie diaries for me.

I just waded back into that swamp, to check out the comments of "The Faithful." You are a brave, noble and wise man, TomP. I don't recognize that place at all anymore, and I've been there for 12 years. Blech. Just BLECH.

branch is all he has left, that's me gone for good

Isn't it curious how much that word looks like 'flogging'? Anyway, I spoke truth and not only couldn't they handle it, they wouldn't even explore it. Cult-like indeed! There is not even any mention of a single possible Hillary failing. It's like she's a saint. It's like a whole Stepford City.
(Btw, I use a different name over there.)