Saturday Open Thread - 8/31/24: Odds and Ends

Good morning, friends! How did your week go, and what are your plans for the holiday?

I wanted to give an update on the 5 yr old girl taken from her Mom, and residing for a time on a Choctaw Reservation in Oklahoma. The FBI had recommended a specific process server who could figure out a way to work with the Reservation police chief to get the man served with the lawsuit. The man we hired on the agent's recommendation got it done. My lawsuit demanded the father bring the child to court, present her there to the Mom while the judge watched. It happened! I haven't complimented an FBI agent often, maybe one time, but this agent really cared, really helped. He sounded young. Maybe he has not been swept into the bad side of that agency as yet. The hearing was postponed by the judge, but on his own order, the child cannot leave Texas if and when the father exercises his visitation.

Well, we couldn't find any music venue presenting good bands this weekend. I love Chicago, but how many original band members are going to be on the stage?

So many venues are mostly presenting tribute bands. While I understand all the people playing that great music of my youth were way older then me, that we can see any of the famous ones in concert now is pretty miraculous.

A friend raved about this particular Chicago tribute band from Moscow. Let's listen just out of curiosity, shall we?

Leonid and Friends. They are playing in 3 Texas venues. My friend is getting tickets for the San Antonio concert, is skipping the Chicago concert this weekend near Houston.

Let me know what you think.

Meanwhile, we have had some rain daily for 4 days, and the rains will be much heavier for the next 5 days.

Well, I went to visit my ophthalmologist yesterday afternoon. 18 miles away. Just as I got in my car to drive home, the bottom fell out of the sky. For 6 miles, my visibility was a car length, and for 2 miles on a country road, maybe 5 to 10 feet. I drove 10 miles per hour, merely assumed I was on a highway because of the feel of the tires on the surface. I wanted to pull off the road, get in a parking lot to wait for the storm to pass, but couldn't see the entrances and couldn't see parking spaces. That is the worst driving in a storm experience of my life.

This a sad note. We humans are not the only ones being subjected to poisonous food. It happened to horse champions in Oklahoma, and I bet you low paid workers or untrained and management cutting corners on all safety costs is to blame. I am sure the investigations and future litigation will be revealing. My heart goes out to every horse lost.

https://kfor.com/news/local/dozens-of-horses-dead-at-historic-elk-city-r...

This honest smack down of Harris' CNN interview is good for more than one laugh. Think: "the passage of time". He mentions Martin Armstrong puts her true polling numbers at 10%. That many people would actually vote for her? Trump Derangement Syndrome breaks one's brain.

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/the-significance-of-the-passage-...

Well, my one desire is for the genocidal war in Gaza ends before saying that is what is going on lands a person in prison. Fingers crossed, good people.

Well, I admit to having other desires, and they are mostly routinely met. It's just the Middle East war thing that I can't do a whole lot about, except hope it comes to a screeching halt.

You folks live everywhere, have lifestyles so varied, such different skills, and unique personal histories. An open thread is the perfect place for you to say anything about any topic and we will tend to understand what helped shape your point of view.

So, that said, let 'er rip!

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The temperature is dropping, feels like autumn is here. The last rose in my yard petered out today, that Last Rose of Summer.
I hope you are all doing well and have some good stuff to drop in the comments and share with us.
Can't wait!

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Trade Day was sparse, but it was a nice stroll and visit with old friends.

We're dry here, but due some rain this week. I hope we get some. It's time to plant cabbage, broccoli, greens, and such. I also bought a bag of winter ryegrass to get out before the rain.

Be careful driving in those white out storms...they're dangerous.

Take care and thanks for the OT!

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout We have about 2 events set up on the courthouse square annually. People come to shop with the vendors, lots of food carts, bargains on everything from local honey to gorgeous hand made wind chimes. I avoid them, since I am a notorious impulse buyer.
Our rains have been coming and going within 30 minutes. Before we go anywhere this weekend, we will view the weather radar. However, we all know weather forecasts are not reliable. They are more like suggestions.
That sudden white out storm caught me completely off guard. I had to get on an interstate for a quarter mile to get to the exit taking me home. I made guesses if the 18-wheelers had passed by or slowed down to let me get on the interstate!
Have a fun day planting the winter crops. Your green thumb astounds!
Thanks for stopping by, dear friend!

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@on the cusp
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glad you made it home
can't use the word right
anymore for political reasons

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tuesday, then 90s for a couple of days, 80s for about 3 more and then back to cool. No precip indicated. The ukies are still committing terrorist attacks on civilians (with NATO weapons, of course, since they have none of their own anymore), can't even think about genocideistan, and the swiss seem to be contemplating ceasing to be neutral and joining the dark side.

Luckily, my operating system just told me that it is tired of being 22.04.4 LTS andd wishes to become 24.04.1 LTS, so I can distract myself from all that worldly shit by simply telling it to go for it. Having warned my spouse what is about to transpire, i'm gonno say have a good weekend, push a few keys here and there and duck.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris I have to mentally shut down thoughts on genocide, or fell my blood pressure rise from my frustration. I am fighting against my urges to hate.
Well, we will all hear from you as you re-appear via your tech upgrade. It will be you that is truly on the cusp!
I hope by the time you can read this that you had a great holiday!
Take good care, dear friend.

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last I checked, August is toast as well. A bit crispy on the edges.
Like you, can no longer put up with the nutty yahoo genocide BS.
And the Ze leading NATO into a nuclear war is crazy beyond reason.

Anyhoos, glad you got the kid back to mama within the gubmint structure.
Keep-up the good fights! You will win in the end.

just some junk to tide us over the humps
cheerios

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@QMS Good bye hot August! As it happens, last evening, whenever a breeze kicked up, I had to don a light sweater! Weird, man!
News from this morning indicates the US planned the Kurst invasion, and provided the weapons and all intelligence to accomplish it.
In the old days, that would be interpreted as Kurst being a US invasion of Russia. We spin it some other way, because we excel at spin, suck at battle tactics and have sub-par weaponry.
USA! USA!
Well, Ziggy is carrying on the tradition, isn't he? Very cool song!
My secretary was in the courtroom when the exchange was made. The child had been with her father for 40 days, more or less. By observing the child's behavior, it was clear she had been indoctrinated to hate her mom and her mom's bf. It will take a lot of work to get the child readjusted.
Despite the stress, I love to go for the win. I am handling yet another case where the dad with custody has had his 5 yr old child taken illegally by the mom. We hope to have the kid back home in a few days once the writ of attachment of the child is served by the cops.
Some people think court orders can be ignored, and must spend a bit of time in jail before the truth sinks into their brains.
Enjoy this long holiday weekend, dear friend!

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She embraced it with gusto!

Trump should show this over and over along with Tulsi ripping her at the debate.

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maybe she is not as dim as we think

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@snoopydawg She seemed enthralled that she could fuck with people, then later just make the charges go away, leaving the people impoverished, or at least harmed financially. Woohoo, how cool! A pen, paper, some ink, and that is all it takes! Imagine the adrenaline rush!
It costs money to expunge arrest records.
What a (please fill in the blank)!
No wonder Democrats are leaving the party in droves!
You and my client have a great weekend/holiday. How many days or weeks until your eye surgery?
DON'T FALL.
Bring on some more interesting Xs, chica!

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and the underclass. Imagine dreaming of ruining people’s lives just because she can. But shitlibs are now the people who cheer on long and draconian prison sentences.. you should see the celebration when a Trump supporter gets sentenced.

Im in the dawg house. I can’t drive anymore so we can’t walk. Sam doesn’t understand why we aren’t, but I can’t keep track of her either and she’s been pushing her boundaries and wondering too far. I told her is partly her fault.
4 more days. My arm is healing from the last fall. I stocked up on band aids.

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@snoopydawg 24 hrs post-op my sight was clear and improved, one eye at a time.
I wish I could get up there to do some driving for you and my client!

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...as someone who gets off on her power to destroy lives, she reveals one of the principles of lawfare. Even if the defendant's charges are dismissed or the accused is acquitted, she relishes the power to ruin someone's life and reputation just by virtue of bringing the charges.

Most of prosecutors I encountered over the years were jerks. I would never vote for one.

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things will not work out well
she screwed her way to the top and
will screw us on the way to the bottom

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@soryang I have lucked out with the local district attorney.
When he first got his law license, I mentored him, even sent him some clients as he was getting his feet wet as a general practice attorney. He gradually switched to criminal prosecution, but seems to remember well what it was like to just represent the every day public. He reserves harsh punishment for deserving cases, smacks down with a very light hand on that category of his case load he describes as "bull shit cases".
Harris loved her powerful and life-destroying pen strokes. Imagine her as a President and the thrill of signing bills and Presidential executive orders. That actually frightens me, and I am not especially easily frightened!
Enjoy your weekend and special time with Smokey, ok, friend?

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Hi OtC!

People don't know rain until they know east Texas rain! Smile

Two worst we ever saw were in Longview, 17" in 18-20 hours, and in Victoria. In Vic we had to pull the U-Haul (from Boston on our way to Portland (by Corpus)) off the road, it was not drivable in zero vis and endless lightning whiteouts, just praying we didn't get rear-ended. And every time we look at the radar ever since, the worst cells are around Victoria. Sometimes the ONLY cells are there! Smile

That Chicago cover band is great! Guitar player studied Terry Kath, and really did that part well. Horns are good and so are the vocals.

Incredible horse story. Sounds maybe like the food processing plant was not diligent, or competent.

Thanks for the OT, OtC!

happy trails all!

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Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein

@dystopian Add spray from tires splashing through pools of water on the roads. Or, that split second of relief you get from tree limbs overhead, only to experience a heavy dump between trees.
Nobody pulled over, and there was insufficient shoulder to have made it safe to do so.
There was a huge wreck in the exact place I entered the interstate that happened about 90 minutes later. I haven't heard a casualty report. I saw many dumb asses driving along without turning on headlights or even parking lights.
I haven't been to Victoria in decades. Haven't missed much, it seems.
The most likely scenario is that the food processor mixed some cattle feed with horse feed, containing one ingredient that is a horse killer. Shoddy, stupid, negligent, deadly failure of the work force in that plant to skip on a thorough cleaning of the equipment. I bet the veterinarian was traumatized by what he helplessly watched happening to those magnificent animals.
I do think Leonid and Friends are a great tribute band. I attended a Chicago concert in my teens, and if I close my eyes and listen to Leonid and Friends, I am there again.
I attended one tribute band performance a few months ago named The Bob Wills Texas Playboys under the direct of Jason Roberts. They were great, true to the sound and vibes, and we had a blast being there. We should all hope the tribute bands of the future stay the true course.
We keep a cement pad on the ground sprinkled with black sunflower seeds. One morning, I was treated to 4 beautiful blue jays having breakfast 15 feet away.
Have a great holiday, friend!
Thanks for the music comment!

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@on the cusp Hiyagain,

Yeah a lot of Texas is great with shoulders, other parts its a ditch, often full of water, with moccasins. I do like the crowned shape lots have, higher in center so these massive cloudbursts run off quickly. I know you won't believe a Texan could exaggerate like this but one here told me he saw single raindrops that were a tenth of an inch. Wink

How neat you got to see Chicago in the old days. Those first seven albums are the ones. They were great! The Tanglewood show is on Utube, about 1970 or so, really a great example of how good they were live.

Blue Jays are one of America's prettiest birds. Purple and blue and black and white, gorgeious birds. I like the old description of their alarm call, "Thief! thief! thief!" They can do a perfect Red-shouldered Hawk imitation, very hard to tell apart. I have on the wall a 1905 litho of a Blue Jay by Louis Agazziz Fuertes, one of America's great bird painters.

happy trails!

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@dystopian the rain drops sounded like rocks hitting the wind shield! In fact, I thought I had run through some construction rocks and debris on the road.
I have lots of blue jays around my office in town, but for whatever reasons, they were very scarce t my home 2 miles from town. This has been the year where they have started feeling at home here.
I have seen some gorgeous and exotic birds in Africa and central and south America, but here in the states, I consider the Jays to be the most beautiful I have ever seen.

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excellent article that perfectly exemplifies how propaganzied we are.
This is about how processed food is promoted, and how difficult it is to get people to understand its' harm. The last short video is worth 1 min 45 sec of your time. Really a shocker!
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/days-after-rfk-jr-declares-war-big-foo...

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This Kdrama on Netflix is pretty good. It's focused around a small town Ssireum wrestling club and the community around it. I've been disappointed in the quality of Kdramas lately. This is a nice break from the bubblegum, romances, horror, time travel, and gory crime stories, (which I don't watch). This outtake focuses on the Korean wrestling sport itself, but the drama is mostly about character development, and relationships in the community. I saw one review that said this made it idealistic because the positive relationships in a small town community are a thing of the past or words to that effect. I hope this outtake loads because it might be interesting to watch for 3 minutes if you haven't seen the sport.

The 101st anniversary of the Kanto earthquake is just about here. This is also the 101st anniversary of the associated massacre of Koreans and others associated with that unfortunate event.

Kanto massacre

The Kantō Massacre (關東大虐殺, Korean: 간토 대학살) was a mass murder in the Kantō region of Japan committed in the aftermath of the 1923 Great Kantō earthquake. With the explicit and implicit approval of parts of the Japanese government, the Japanese military, police, and vigilantes murdered an estimated 6,000 people: mainly ethnic Koreans, but also Chinese and Japanese people mistaken to be Korean, and Japanese communists, socialists, and anarchists.[3][4][5][

There was a small demo in Tokyo associated with the anniversary-

I liked this street scene in Seoul during the 105th Candlelight procession opposing the Yoon administration. Looked like they had a few thousand marchers today.

The signs basically say the people are angry, let's impeach Yoon Seok-yeol.

Yoon's economic, social and political policies, along with his politically motivated prosecutions and foreign policy are aggravating enough, but his support appears to breaking down among the elderly who are his base due to the ongoing medical crisis in South Korea. As the elderly, and even the loved ones of some of the more privileged are being turned away from ERs and inpatient treatment due to medical personnel shortages, his poll numbers may break down even further. Even some conservatives are pointing out Yoon's address to the nation this week was completely unresponsive to pressing social and economic issues.

Misogyny is out of control in South Korea.

“Politicians should take action to ensure that no one ever dares to degrade us again.”

The Seoul Women’s Association and members of university student groups concerned with minorities’ rights met in front of Gangnam Station’s Exit 10 on Thursday afternoon to hold an emergency press briefing to demand that the government and the National Assembly take action against online sex crimes involving the distribution of pornographic deepfakes.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is already being used domestically by the intel agencies, FBI and perhaps even local jurisdictions:

Green Berets Hijacked WiFi To Control Home Security System Then Vanish In Mock Raid

U.S. Army Green Berets covertly breaching a WiFi network to disable a building’s security systems so their companions can sneak inside, complete their mission, and leave after using electronic warfare gear to conceal they were ever there sounds like the opening scene to a Mission Impossible movie or Call of Duty video game. Very real Army Special Forces soldiers executed this exact scenario during a training exercise in Sweden earlier this year. This is another example of specialized intelligence-gathering capabilities that are getting new attention as America’s special operations community shifts focus away from counter-terrorism missions to preparing for high-end fights.

Thanks for the open thread OTC. Good to hear about the progress with your child welfare case.

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@soryang Good grief, that was awesome!
I admit reading detective novels occasionally to get ideas for defending an alleged criminal. Once in a while, some fictional character discovers evidence not seen by police. Well, that is a common occurrence in reality.
Today, I may entertain myself with some funny dog videos!

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...to reading true crime books, and watching detective movies, etc. Everyone loves a good mystery. I used to watch the Korean crime dramas as well, but they became so gory and sadistic even, it just turned me off. I guess it's the if it bleeds it leads syndrome. I just don't find that appealing at all. I don't recall the tv detective series in the "good old days" being so gruesome.

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I watched them all, even as a young child at my most sensitive phase in life.
I have visited Mayan ruins 4 times, 3 countries. I am aware of the brutal sacrificial murders to appease the gods.
But I hit my limit within the first 15 minutes of the movie, Apocalypto. I left the room to avoid even being able to hear it, much less watch it.
Gore porn is not my thing.

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thanking everyone for last nights
photo thread
but the tubes ate it

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Thanks Everyone for last nights
photo thread, much needed

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Ya got to be a Spirit, cain't be no Ghost. . .

Explain Bldg #7. . . still waiting. . .

If you’ve ever wondered whether you would have complied in 1930’s Germany,
Now you know. . .
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@Tall Bald and Ugly is remarkable. Your thanks is so noted, so welcome.

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ain't JJ but you desert folks deserve a break today

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@QMS WAY!

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Dems at the convention ripped a 'stop arming Israel' sign out of protesrer's hands and held up there we love Joe signs. How can people be so fcking brainwashed?

https://scheerpost.com/2024/08/31/standing-for-justice-why-we-raised-a-s...

As for those who are appalled at Biden’s continuing support of genocide stay democraticats? Leave the damn party and give your vote to Jill Stein and scream it from the bottom of your lungs. Otherwise if you got for Kamala you will be supporting genocide. It ain’t rocket science.

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@snoopydawg life-long Democrats are fleeing the party. Who in hell wants to support that?
I had seen the woman get konked in the head days ago, am still not over it.

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It’s not only misogyny, but Islamaphobia which they normally get riled over.
Reminds me of when trust all women came to a screeching halt when Tara Reide accused Biden.
Oops…not ALL women after all.

I can’t believe how many people are turning a blind eye to genocide. Boggles my mind!

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Biden’s 30 year plan to censor the internet.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240901/durov-arrest-first-salvo-of-final-batt...

“It is the sense of Congress that providers of electronic communications services and manufacturers of electronic communications service equipment shall ensure that communications systems permit the government to obtain the plain text contents of voice, data, and other communications when appropriately authorized by law,” the proposed bill read.

Essentially, SB266 would have required companies to create backdoors to enable the government to snoop on their customers, making it impossible to have truly private conversations digitally.

Let’s go Brandon!

I can’t think of one thing Biden did that didn’t screw us in some way.

He’s been on vacation for over 2 weeks so who has been making the war decisions? Probably the same guys who have been making them for the last 4 years. Biden has shown that the president isn’t in charge of the country. But then who is?

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Biden has been hurting the middle class and poor since he was in his 30s.
I am at least curious to find out who is in the White House taking calls, making decisions, since the Democrat convention.

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video on MOATS.
I am going to buy his book, "The Racket".

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