Open Thread - Thurs 12 Oct 2023: Dance and Sing in Russian!
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Dance and Sing in Russian!
I was gonna write a bit about the economy. But, there were some minor panics in the family arena: nothing major (parents' tax return from the accountant was late, one of their car's wouldn't run (until my husband touched it, then it ran!)); all hands on deck were needed for a few days. And then the new war (Hamas/Israel) started and I'm... yea. I just want to get my comfy-est blanket wrapped around me, put it over my head and mumble once in a while. Maybe I'll eat a gallon of ice cream too. Or this great apple tart Hubby made me. I'll peek out when something good happens, like, Halloween or something.
I think I'm getting too old, or I just don't watch enough current thought-manipulation, err, main stream media. All I could think when the Hamas/Israel thing started was, 'Ahh, now 'they' have another war! And we can all forget about the Ukraine thing which wasn't going so well! Just in time. Imagine that!' And, 'How did this Hamas stuff happen without the intel in the USA, Nato, Israel, not knowing?' I mean, apparently Egypt knew, and tried to tell them. So, were those poor people who died so awfully just sacrifices to gin up enthusiasm for a new war, which is really horrible, frankly? Am I too cynical?
We here in Washington state are supposed to put our flags at half mast in solidarity, or whatever, with Israel tomorrow. But what about solidarity with the Palestinians? They are people too. And ... I dunno, I just don't know. I know some places are showing some solidarity, in a way. Like a couple towns in Yorkshire, England, where the Israeli flags flying in solidarity on the town halls were taken down by 'someone's.
*Note: I am not 'for' either side. I am for peace. Hamas was wrong to attack, so was Russia in Ukraine. Both were basically forced to by 'our' side. Peace. Peace.
I'm gonna turn away from this for now and do something fun. Here's some music from when I was just born, and a bit after. It's from our 'enemy'; the Russian one. I just love the music and the dancing. This is from the youtube channel for Leonid Kharitonov. Since the music is old (from the 1960's on) I guess the powers that be aren't censoring it, even though it was Soviet! Leonid has passed on, sadly. He was 84. He had a great voice. Enjoy!
Dark-Eyed Cossack Girl: from 1969. I was 7!! (Cossacks can be Ukrainians now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cossacks , who knew?)
The Song of the Volga Boat Men: from 1965! I didn't really know this song was Russian when I was a kid. Somehow I knew the tune, if not the words, and I hummed 'Yo, heave, ho' to myself a lot whenever I was doing strenuous chores. Especially stacking hay, or moving manure!
Some Dancing! I could never dance like that, even when I was 3, which was when the movie that this clip is from came out!
Oh yea, since I had to run last week due to the family stuff, I wasn't able to respond to the last comment on my post about the Sycamore Gap tree in England. Creosote wrote about the felling of a wonderful tree and how he fought that felling and lost. I'm sorry I wasn't able to respond in a timely manner and I'm really sorry the tree was felled! This comment really spoke to me, as my post did to Creosote. Felling a 100 year old tree, for nothing! DANG!
So, thanks for reading and here's the open thread - and remember, everything is interesting if you dive deep enough, so tell us about where you're diving!
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Happy Thursday!
I hope everything is going as well as it can for everyone! It's supposed to be dry here today, so I think I'll be working outside some, as well as catching up here. So, what's up with you? What you reading, learning, doing?
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
This reminds me of my uncle, brother of my mother,
he would be something about more than a 110 years old today.
He danced with the Russians and loved it. He was a Nazi, but I guess if you start dancing to that kind of music, even an old Nazi can have his fun and nobody cares anymore, Nazi this or Nazi that.
So, time to dance with that great Russian music.
Have all a good time and if there is something as a "Frauenwahl" (meaning that women could choose to dance with whom and to what kind of music) I would choose Russian music and Russian way of dancing.
Be nice to each other. We need some love.
Frauenwahl / Damenwahl in English = “ladies’ choice”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damenwahl
(Yes, it’s actually an article about the album of that name from the punk-rock group Die Toten Hosen)
Die Toten Hosen
Well, I guess I'll be listening to some new music on Youtube tonight. Thanks for the inspiration.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Dancing is Dancing...
Nazi or not. It's FUN! And the Russian dancing is just amazing. I like the folk dances (German ones too) with men and women dancing!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Biden stated
he saw pictures of beheaded Israeli war victims.
Later, his staff said he did not.
This is an example of clarification in today's politics.
He lies, others clarify.
Glad it is Thursday!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I am not surprised... not at all!
Just saw a clip, I think on Jimmy Dore, where the 'fact' that Hamas beheaded babies was debunked. Some reporter embellished it from a unproven statement some Israeli soldier made. Funny how the lies of TPTB are being immediately exposed, eh?
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Privet
I asked the gal at the post office how to say hello in her native tongue.
She said it a few times, but I couldn't get it. So she wrote it out for me.
привет
Pronunciation: [pree-VYEHT]
and, in case we need it, this is hello in Chinese Cantonese
你好 (nǐ hǎo)
Pronunciation: [knee how]
literal translation is 'you good'
thanks for the OT!
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
I knew how to say that in Russian...
But not Chinese. I should have known, I've heard it enough
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Did you say Russian dancing?
Yea, I want to build a blanket fort too and just sit there and read a favorite book.
Thanks for the OT!
Those videos were great!
I really enjoyed them, forgot how great Nureyev was!
We will have blanket forts with libraries. And that's how we can relax, I think![Smile](https://caucus99percent.com/sites/all/modules/smiley/packs/kolobok/smile.gif)
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
I saw Nureyev in his prime
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Dancing Bears
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truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Those bears
Fun Music... and Dancing Bears...
I'll dance to the music with the bears
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Another whiplash…
.
Welp and there it is folks. Kirby is saying that Israel takes precedence over Ukraine because America would rather give its unending support to Zionists over Nazis.
On another note it’s apparently okay to hold rallies that support Nazis, but it’s not okay to hold rallies that supports Palestinians. And another nod to history, yesterday Israel made every Palestinian worker leave their job, but they wouldn’t allow them to return to their homes. And families…neither one maybe not being there.
I’m sure that y’all can imagine the outrage of the NATO hypocrites if Russia had announced to the world that they would turn off all gas, electricity and water to Kiev and then commenced to bomb the hell out of them like Israel is doing. Today Israel said that they would not allow humanitarian aid to go into Gaza. The world yawned.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
one of the snafu's with the Bibi proclamation
Is Russia and Turkey are about to run a supply mission via the Mediterranean
Sea to Gaza. Although Israel claims rights to blockade Gaza by water, that may
change with the arrival of battleships and air support. We shall soon see
how suicidal the Israel idea is to starve a neighbor.
It would seem other county's have a different idea to the Zionistic solution.
The only entrance to Gaza not controlled by Israel is Rafah on the Egyptian border.
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Hopefully
Has that been confirmed yet? And Israel has bombed the Rafah crossing even though Bibi told people to flee. It would have been nice to see countries doing what it could to make Israel respect universal laws and UN resolutions that they have been ignoring for decades. Dunno if that was possible, but even some verbal yapping might have helped.
Well again what do you know… I spoke too soon.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
There is a US carrier strike group
@#6.1...in the Eastern Med. So an Israeli military confrontation with a Russia/Turkish humanitarian relief effort by sea runs the risk of a great power confrontation. Based upon an analogous situation in 1973, I think it would be best for the US to advise Israel that they better not violently confront the Russian-Turkish relief effort, because it presents unacceptable risks of escalation. The US might say, we cannot back up your security effort if you directly attack Russian vessels. I think there are some wild cards here posing a risk of an unwanted general war. If the US military supply chain is stretched thin, it might be time to play the humanitarian role and let the relief into Palestine.
I'm worried about "warning shots" over the bow, on Russian or Turkish vessels, whether freighters or warships experiencing attacks that are "unattributable," say by submarines, mines, or the like (underwater drones). There are risks to both sides from unattributable attacks.
There is another carrier that was reportedly still in port on the US east coast scheduled to go to the med in the next several days, a "regularly scheduled" deployment.
語必忠信 行必正直
Interesting developments
I knew of the USN carrier group heading that way, but with the new announcement by
RUS/TURK forces, the control of the situation changes.
Obviously, the US intention will be to blockade.
When confronted by a 'peer force', the mission falls on shaky grounds.
Quite sure RUS will bring along a few subs, just in case.
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Doesn’t Russia have a large naval fleet in Syria?
It was one of the reasons why Russia helped Syria when the US turned its Sauron eye towards Syria. That and they wanted to defeat the newest terrorist group that America created.
Yep. I’ve noticed this.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Dang...
That tweet and cartoon really show the bias, don't they?
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
I...
am kinda speechless. I mean, I knew it was coming, the 'end' of the Ukraine war propaganda, but never realized it would be this quick. Speechless...
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Well what do you know….there’s more
.
I love it when the official US policy comes from the government’s media mouthpieces instead of the government.
I’m guessing that the American neocons will again tell countries like Iran, Syria, Russia and China that they cannot support the Palestinians in any way and especially weapons, but all the western countries can. Just like they said about helping Russia. And it’s too bad that Zelensky let lots of the weapons we sent him get sold on the black market and now he’s finding out how much he needs them. He’s afraid of getting left out. Yesterday he made an unannounced visit to NATO headquarters and asked Israel for permission to visit them. Gotta stay relevant.
Or maybe it comes down to who can pay for the weapons and who can only take out loans for them knowing that they can never repay them?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
I'm just speechless
Jaw dropped, speechless. When even I, not-paying-attention, silly me, can see this kind of thing coming, how can others in this country not see it?
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Good morning Sima, et. y'all, Another rushed day here, but -
"Ukraine" is pretty much a patchwork created by the Soviets as "Ukraine Oblast" with bits added over time. The geographical territory it covers was variously "acquired" or included in Russia proper in bits and pieces going back to the early days when the Rus were cobbling together an assortment of Khanates, Khaganates and Hetmanates. Hetmanates were mini states or such ruled by Cossack Chiefs (hetmen) and largely populated by Cossacks. Many of the hetmanates, per my mizrable memory of my initial superficial understanding were in the area of what eventually was included in the eastern part of the Ukraine Oblast, generally east of the Dnieper River. In the sense that it can make some geopolitical sense to call that area Ukraine, the Cossacks have always been there, or at least soon after the Rus wandered out of Novgorod to Kiev and started spreading out in various directions.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks for the mini history lesson...
I admit to knowing almost nothing about Russian history. Since all my concentration was on Romans, it left out all the later history. I know the area as the location from which all the 'barbarians' came in the later, western, Roman empire. Heh.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Yeah, these guys came a bit later. Their domain was
purportedly founded in about 880 and they created proto-Russia from the late 9th century to the mid 13th. They repulsed Pope Celestine's Northern Crusades, but mostly interacted with the eastern empire and the Turks/Ottomans (and, of course, Mongols).
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Scott Ritter point of view
on George Galloway. 22 minutes or so
Good interview
Thank you for bringing it to our attention. It was a good interview.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
This may have been the straw that broke Hamas
.
This is the equivalent of Muslims entering St. Peter’s Square and doing the same to Christians. A definitely provocative act . Who authorized it?
ETA: The gist of this video is that he’s saying that Israel is going to destroy the mosque soon. One religious group of Israel has already brought 3 red cows for sacrifice. He says at the beginning that there are 3 groups in parliament that are fighting for how Israel’s future goes. Worth a listen.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
This video addresses the Al -Aqsa Mosque
I think it’s been posted here before, but it puts in context the above article.
And of course Hamas had planned its attacks for some time, but I still think that Israel’s actions there had something to do with the timing of the attacks.
Also that after the events at the mosque there was no way that Israel was caught off guard by the attacks.
He also talks about what is happening with Hezbollah.
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Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Yea, I don't think Israel
was caught off guard either.
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Looks to be true
.
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Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
This also looks to be true.
Kim Dotcom @KimDotcom
Nice postmortem, there
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
A link to the tweet and the images are from the comments.
https://twitter.com/KimDotcom/status/1712524499571322996
I posted about this above and stated that the Ukraine
must have irreconcilable whiplash. Kirby says that America is almost out of rope to keep supporting Ukraine now that Israel takes precedence.
First they went through Russia Russia Russia and then Covid Covid and then over night it was Ukraine Ukraine and now Israel Israel. Sheesh they have been put through the ringer haven’t they?
Wasn’t anyone expecting this after Biden’s great withdrawal from Afghanistan and his not telling his allies that he was doing it?
I’m betting that lots of countries knew why America wasn’t sending their most lethal weapons to Ukraine. They didn’t want the world to see how well they worked against Russia…or didn’t work and got blown up like the European weapons did.
Yup. Putin has been saying that this would happen. Too bad Biden is destroying the country from within too. Lots of states are going to go bankrupt because of how many immigrants they are having to take care of. Did you hear that the city hosting the army/navy game kicked veterans out of hotels because they got a better deal putting immigrants in them?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
Yep...
Exactly what a lot of us are thinking. Ukraine is 'done' now, we are finished with it. Good luck Ukies!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
Well fortunately you don’t get to make the decision
.
of Israel not having to abide by international law. There just needs to be enough countries that have a spine to hold Israel accountable for its crimes against humanity!
See article for the pictures of Israel using white phosphorus.
Biden said that he saw the make believe photos of the decapulated babies which the WH has again had to walk back. Will Biden or any leader call out this crime?
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
White phosphorus, eh? Classic from 2005 at The Other(ing)Place:
http://dailykos.com/stories/2005/11/09/163726/-Melting-the-Skin-Off-of-C...
Thanks for posting that
I’ve been reading the new I/P diaries there and it’s the usual pie fight like in the old days. But quite a few of the pro I supporters have gotten much more vicious in their calls for blood of the Palestinians. Humanity over there since 2016 has taken quite a beating.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Voting is like driving with a toy steering wheel.
I think my tour of Russia lasted 11 days. My group
was treated to a folk music and dance presentation, a ballet performance, and the amazing vodka shot glass tricks performance. I had such a fabulous time on the tour! Only problem was the exorbitant price of alcohol, which busted everyone's budget.
One of my companions has since passed away. At least he had fun that 11 days.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
I haven't been to Russia... yet
I would like to go, but I have no idea if it's even possible now, because of the 'war' (s). Maybe I can go when I'm in Europe next. Hubby and I are planning that. It's years away, but we are planning!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so
I hope it will be possible.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
AAAAAAAAHHH, it's Revenge of Comrade Propeller!!!
Propellers: The Bane of Nazi Existence Since 1936
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
props are useful
in moving objects thru the air and water
US: props are us
truth is considered foreign influence, world peace is a threat to national security
Those were the days...
when we could have had peace - if not for warmongers stepping in to ensure it wouldn't happen...
I've been a fan of the Leningrad Cowboys..
for a while. This concert with the Red Army Choir was amazing!!!
If you're poor now, my friend, then you'll stay poor.
These days, only the rich get given more. -- Martial book 5:81, c. AD 100 or so
Nothing ever changes -- Sima, c. AD 2020 or so