The Dose 2-13-22
My Take on the Evolution of our C99 COVID Conversations
Some within the community find this daily conversation divisive and full of misinformation. I'm sorry if you feel that way. I think of it as a cooperative investigation. I appreciate people bringing their research to The Dose.
Science is not monolithic. The nature of science involves debate as new evidence emerges and old ideas rejected. We've been subjected to a propaganda war from the start of the pandemic, and it is no wonder people come to an understanding from many directions. It is okay to see it differently. It is your body, your choice.
Why would we expect everyone to be in lockstep after being locked down? You are entitled to your perspective, but I'm entitled to mine. I'm sorry if my ideas and conclusions about the pandemic offends you. I've been a proponent of prevention and treatments from the start back in March of 2020. I think most of my suggestions have held up, but some were wrong given my current understanding. For example I thought we could catch COVID by touching contaminated items. We spent the first month leaving our groceries outside in sunlight for a few hours to clean them. I started early wearing KN95 masks. Both of those approaches I now think were wasted.
Part of the confusion was, to my mind, purposeful. Scared people are easy to manipulate. Studies were designed to fail because all treatments were to be suppressed. Vaccines were to be THE answer, the only answer. Prevention with Vitamin D, zinc and so on was never promoted...and still isn't. The extent and virulence of Sars-CoV-2 was to my mind exaggerated. This has been a deadly disease of primarily the elderly. The average age of COVID deaths in the UK is 82. The Great Barrington Declaration was correct in retrospect and the Falsie emails clearly explain that he wanted it to be suppressed, and engineered the negative public response.
All this is to say, no wonder people have come to different conclusions. Tolerance is my suggestion. Let people deal with it all as best they can. Make your own choice based on best evidence...not people behaving according to government edicts and mandates.
Sadly the MSM has misinformed people and the conversation is divisive and hostile rather than informative and educational. Prevent and treat has been a suppressed message, and we suffer the results of the faulty strategy.
I think the pandemic is winding down thanks to omicron. Others suggest it will mutate to a more virulent virus. We'll just have to wait and see which conclusion is correct. We should know in a couple of months. In the meantime, there's no reason to argue nor get upset that others don't see the situation like you do. COVID's most damaging aspect may be the division it has caused.
I'm fascinated by the Freedom Convoy and the clear division it has caused in Canada. The elites are squirming refusing to even discuss the end of the mandates. Canada had become a "show me your papers" state, and people are not accepting those terms demanding lifting all COVID mandates. Again we'll have to wait and see how this plays out. So far the Truckers are holding the line and thousands upon thousands of people have come out into their frigid winter weather in support.
So to wrap this up, we can see this disease differently and still get along. Let's all practice tolerance of others as we go forward.
What have you learned recently or conclusions have you reached?
Comments
Morning Lookout.
I don't regard the Daily Dose as an argument. I regard it as an opportunity to sift through information, ideas, different perspectives and experiences. I don't feel obligated to 'prove my point' or argue about any of it. I just want to try and understand what's going on. The corporate media is intentionally misleading and apparently outright lying about this subject. I'm grateful for all the people here and elsewhere that are actively contributing information.
That's my take too...
However, others say the conversation makes them uncomfortable.
I've learned lots of things here and appreciate everyone's research efforts.
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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Caitlin Johnstone's recent short essay
is pertinent to this topic. She say's ;
So many people seem to be distracted by so many petty issues while, as Johnstone says;
I think a good antidote is to keep doing what we're collectively doing at C99. A cheer from
Johnstone;
Hurray for Cait. Her short essay here; https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2022/01/29/it-takes-a-touch-of-madness-note...
I like the original version of the above tune best. It is a little mad hatterish in its presentation...but a good fit I think.
Thanks...
For both Caity's piece and the song!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Left and Right Together
Morning Lookout,
The Poisonous Jab (which both of us submitted to) may turn out to be the magic elixir that after many trials, tests and, fears that leads us safely home. Please excuse the mixing of Amazing Grace and fantasy.
Nevertheless, Mike the Pillow Guy and me, an old Lefty Gang Bernie graduate, are marching hand in hand these days. Black and White, young and old, all religions, colors ethnicities, all in this together.
Trucker Convoys are holding all over Canada. The Bridge Blockades remain in place. More Convoys arriving. More Blockades forming.
On the Ambassador Bridge one lane has been opened to allow some traffic to go through and it, too is holding. With a sensible adjustment.
In West Coast British Colombia the largest US/CA highway was shutdown last night.
The Media is relenting a bit. Gracelessly. NY Times while approaching some truth, still has to call the Protestors "a motley group." Yes. That's what the World is. NY Daily News, the same. Grudging and graceless. Add Drudge to that list. Grudging graceless and incorrect. Zero Hedge does much better.
Have a good day, everybody. Light snow in NYC this morning. Trees are frosted and it looks like a fairytale from my windows.
NYCVG
Live from the bridge...
Today is the big push against the convoy.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54t_kLLcKVM]
Edit to add:
update...the cops are pushing...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGSa0Tzv_2E]
and another live report...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLC8N-7_FRM]
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
CNN has lost its mind
and most of its viewers. Here's why:
NYCVG
Waiting for the ass kickings to begin. Polar opposite.
The tension will be released, one way or another. I imagined Pierre Troudeau's son running off to consult with Obama the OWS smasher immediately, he was not hiding he was getting tips and making plans for the big crush-a-roo soon to arrive upon the Canadian sides. It will take the piss out of all for a long time, I think because Canadians are not USians. If the truckers "win" today, please do tell me what we've won in the USA.
They are not protesting poisonous jabs or anything that's really messed up on this side of the border, as far as I can tell. Only covid mandates, right? I don't like the mandates either, if the truckers win they will get back to driving and thanks a lot, but then what have I won now? diesel plumes. Nothing. This is the USA, not Canada eh.
Nobody here where I live wants to see any borders shut for any reason. Oh wait I take that back. Undo! Undo! Maybe probably our mayor still wants Trump 2016 Build The Wall. That was his bumper sticker for years, he still lives around the corner from here but the truck is gone now. Wine Country trade in.
Cloverdale Mayor Thrown Out of Daughter’s Basketball Game
Rats in a cage. Oops wrong essay? Hard to tell. Please, oh please can someone tell me when to clap? I cannot find the beat in this song.
On the Border
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Peace and Love
out of step
Some Sound Advice, Possibly?
I will be going with Hope Over Experience for the near future. You all, Do You, whatever it is.
NYCVG
Sounds like the new Hope and Change
Hope over Experience, hmmm. Yes, that does have a nice ring to it and I think now I can imagine how it resonates with others. Understainding others is always a good thing in my book.
Peace and Love
New Hope and Change?
Not gonna change as my 80th birthday will be later this year.
NYCVG
The Canadians...
were being draconian, almost as bad as the Australians with their COVID camps.
The New Zealander's ain't happy either.
here's a minute...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ThVJrXZFSQ]
Perhaps we are seeing "the great resist"?
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Fabulous clip
NYCVG
Anyone want to offer thoughts on this?
Fascinating timeline on the lead up to the Covid epidemic. Lots and lots of coincidences. Lots of them. Very long and detailed.
https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/was-the-2020-wuhan-coronavirus-an-en...
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Looks like plenty of info...
I'll take me a while to wade through, but looks interesting. Thanks.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
It is!
Especially when I keep following links to articles written by American stenographers that seem to back up a lot of the information he’s saying. It’s going to take most of the day to get through it. If it’s not enough for you to follow rabbit holes I got to it from this one.
https://metallicman.com/sitrep-on-the-emerging-actions-of-world-war-iii/
The link was posted in yesterday’s moon of Alabama essay. It just as detailed.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
It is sunny but chilly...
so I'm kinda in and out today. Probably this evening before I give it at least a good scan.
Thanks again!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I have always thought that the following
"pool party" organized by the Chinese government was to "give the finger" to America. The young people are considered China's greatest resource!
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt8bcSUpMEg]
If you have read any of my posts
about the outbreak in Wuhan, I've always believed that the Chinese were "set up" to take the "hit" for creating and spreading the virus by TPTB. The timing and place of the outbreak was too suspicious.
who were the TPTB at that time? /nt
https://www.euronews.com/live
Trump and Pompeo
There so much more in the article than just the China angle
If you have time to read it I’ll be interested in your thoughts.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
I've read it.
Can you be more specific?
Good afternoon Lookout. Interesting about the following:
Depends on the environment, locality and such. I suspect that in places like the Bay Area, those locales that where people somewhat strictly engaged in masking, hand washing, social distancing and even package wipe downs the incidence and/or severity of colds and similarly transmittable diseases very likely dropped. After all those mechanisms do interfere with the transmission of colds, the flu and the like.
I mostly learned that the tendency to see thing in terms of absolutes and black & white dichotomies is almost overwhelming even everybody should know better, such that one needs to read and parse everything one reads very very carefully, especially if it originates from the twitstream or faceplant.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
The world is gray...
not black nor white...however today it is sunny....how nice!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I recently mentioned in another post
....that my good friend has temporarily migrated to Marin to help out in surgery at the hospital. When I spoke with her the other day, I asked about the Covid-19 situation. She told me, "I hardly notice it at the hospital, but then I've always been about decontamination. Everyone wears masks everywhere. I don't think Covid-19 is a big deal in Marin because here everybody does what they are supposed to do."
My conclusion: If you want to get away from the pandemic, move to Marin or, perhaps, to China.
Some exceptional rabble rousing below.
If you want some chills, some reason to clap and yell, watch this excellent speechifyin' educator!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Excellent!
She speaks for me. As does Lucy.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
That's good...
thanks for including it!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
A Joyous Noise
"Live a Life You Will Remember."
NYCVG
The presentations in Ottawa today were great...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yK05T5BGrE currently still live
back up an hour to hour an half...inspiring messages from doctors, lawyers, victims, politicians, and even the police.
Edit to add: now that the live stream stopped cue to about 1 hour 40 min
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
BREAKING NEWS: AGREEMENT IN OTTAWA?
And the Answer from The Truck Convoy Leadership:
This is too confusing for me to untangle. Anybody interested please chime in as I try to understand what has happened.
NYCVG
to my mind...
the truckers are bending over backwards to accommodate the people.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Speaking from campaign experience
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In general, the posts here are demonstrating far too much impatience. This will not be resolved in a matter of days or weeks, if at all. The truckers are waging asymmetrical non-violent warfare against whoever is driving the global policy of mandatory injections. As I posted before, the beauty of this campaign is that it has ONLY ONE DEMAND.
Within that context, every engagement with City, Provincial or Federal Canadian authorities should be evaluated by whether it gets the truckers closer or further away from the single goal. Honking horns in residential areas was a good tactic for letting the world know that a serious challenge has emerged from the ranks of working people. The risk of that tactic was that it could turn off potential supporters. Since the truckers had no supporters to begin with other than themselves this was a neglible risk. That horn honking contributed to the world wide movement that is getting under way.
But of course it is a pain in the ass to listen to truck horns all day, and the utility of the tactic has evaporated. Mission accomplished. So, in order to give the Mayor of Ottawa a positive reinforcement to his quite reasonable overture, the truckers gave up a tactic that they should have been ready to do about now any way.
When campaigns break your way, this is the kind of luck you get. Now, instead of trying to fight for the right to piss off the citizens of Ottawa, now they can pitch it to the rank and file as a legitimate initial victory -- getting a commitment to leave the demonstration at the Seat of Government unmolested.
Of course the pigs can renege on this deal at any moment -- which, in turn, will really antagonize the rank and file.
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Clearly there are some Old School campaigners working with the truckers. Equally clear is the reality that the Canadian authorities are utterly bumfoozled by assymetrical non-violent warfare. I am pretty sure that Biden and the rest of the New Totalitarian Democrats will continue to be equally inept at responding to the growing rebellion.
Liberals are new to the totalitarian game and they don’t quite have the hang of it yet. They have been out of power since the Lyndon Johnson Administration, and of course six decades later that means today’s liberals have never been in power. I find it ironic that their only connection to the liberalism of the 60s is in the area of Civil Rights. LBJ is alleged to have said that he knew he had turned the country over to the Republicans for a generation when he jammed the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Bills through the byzantine institution called the United States Congress.
It turned out to be two generations, but with the elections of Obama and Biden, what is left of American Liberalism is now in control of Congress and the Presidency – and for the first time ever, the main stream media is now an active supporter of what is left of liberal ideology. That of course is the descendent of civil rights – identity politics.
The current agenda of social discipline to fight the pandemic is their first test since regaining power. Seemingly out of nowhere a well organized challenge to the very premise of social discipline has parked a whole bunch of trucks where they don’t belong, and you see how the politicians and their media cheerleaders have hit a brick wall.
They ORDER people to stop supporting those truck driver people who are wrong because we say so. Anybody who believes them is not worthy of any respect.
It’s a kind of Passive Aggressive Fascism.
Instead of Big Brother we now have Big Sibling who calls out those who need calling out and holds everyone accountable for their actions. And blah blah blah. The folks behind the curtain may not appreciate this lily livered approach to Social Discipline.
I wish we did not have to see the next chapter of this miserable dystopian novel we are living.
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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
It may be better than you think...
Have you seen the Australian protests?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClkcotGM95A (2min)
However, the French police are beating up folks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TxfVopzyLo (2 min)
I continue to think omicron will make it it all moot. I hope I'm right. We'll see.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Tear gas
LRADS in Canberra.
W-A-R
Meanwhile: POWER OF THE PEOPLE
NYCVG
Amen sister...
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We used to have a member, Mark from Queens, with a young family. His young one used to sing this when going to Bernie rallies. I hope he is doing well. I've been concerned he was negatively effected by the COVIDs. Odd thing about online relationships...they're difficult to follow up on when they're gone.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I've thought of him lately, too.
Wow. This is an impressive analysis.
You connected LBJ to the current era of identity politics in a way that makes perfect sense.
That is difficult to do when that entire span of time is buried in blatant corruption throughout the elected Federal government. When I was a little kid and was told that anyone can grow up to be President, I thought that was really cool. Now I realize that is a mental booby trap for mediocrity. What we have is a congress consisting of the dregs of ignorance, arrogance, and greed. We have no criteria or qualification requirements for office that means anything. This bodes evil.
When I researched China's government system to see how they were able to accomplish so much so quickly and still have a 90+ percent approval rate from the people, I learned a lot about what democracy should look like. The Chinese people vote a lot more often and regularly than Americans do. And they have a lot more direct input into policy at every level than Americans, except for the fabulously wealthy and corrupt. In China, Party members are selected from the best of the most accomplished people in every field or service in society. There are more than 90 million of them, making the Party larger than most nations in the world. All Chinese are eligible to vote for every layer of office holders from local to city to county ro province.
At the top layer in Beijing, China does not have citizens who are professional "politicians." Those positions are held by the most esteemed and respected experts in every field of human endeavor, who have volunteered to devote themselves to serving their nation for a period of time. At the very top levels, it is not just enough to decide to volunteer. Those who wish to govern are sent back to a special university in Beijing in order to get another PhD in government knowledge, which includes 5000 years worth of history, philosophy, law, science, technology, and diplomacy. Only the finest graduates are eligible to sit on the high Counsil. And from them, the entire Council selects the finest minds and the most gifted leaders to rule the country.
When they make their multiyear Plans, all the People are eligible to submit proposals of what should be included. Each of those thousand or so proposals are considered by the council and responded to. The authors of the most popular proposals are invited to Bejing, in some cases, to make their proposal in person to the Assembly — they can be students, farmers, or workers in any field. It takes about a year to incorporate everything into a detailed five-year plan, and the entire Assembly works together on the process. The First Principle is always to make a plan that directly benefits the lives of the People.
It is little wonder that Western governments look like a cruel clown car filled with liars and thieves to the Chinese.
Don't get me wrong -- we have a very good chance to prevail
And they could fold up their tents over the next few weeks and say, more or less, "Thank God the vaccines finally worked and those idiots who protested it can go fuck themselves."
I suspect -- but of course do not know -- that vaccine is just the dry run. For what? I wish I knew but I am sure I won't like it when if ever the next gambit comes from Power.
Regardless, the rebellion already has answered the one question that I had about the politics of mandatory vaccination -- where would the blue collar majority wind up on all this?
That has been answered. So maybe they'll start World War III rather than accept defeat? Nothing, I mean nothing, is too weird to contemplate. Who would have guessed that a dozen or more national governments would simultaneously tell the same set of lies? Who would have guessed that Official Truth would become mandatory on pain of losing your livelihood or worse?
As they say in Spanish, "Vamos a ver."
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Claro que si.
NYCVG
I Will hazard a guess
Lookout, that aligns with your take.
And with Fire With Fire's take.
As a veteran of a 6 1/2 year battle against NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg and his pals in Real Estate, I learned that a Pyrric Victory is sometimes okay.
Stopping the noise and commotion on Residential Streets in Ottawa makes sense. Nothing has been lost as the guerilla actions seem to spring up in a widening array of places. Giving Watson his win at this time seems smart to me.
This is/may be Trucker Convoy leaders negotiating with a partner that cannot be seen to be negotiating.
No time to lessen our support.
NYCVG
We'll just have to wait and see what transpires...
I like feeling hopeful so my rose colored glasses may be clouding my judgement, but for the first time in a long time, I'm hopeful for at least some slowing of the "reset" at a minimum.
But we'll see what we see. I can't help but feel the joy of the protest.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Embrace the Joy,
Evidence? When you described how your method was to clean up as you cooked, I said to myself---hmmmmmmm.
The I like Maps comment today.
Your menu including salmon filet and sweet potatoes? (Tonight's menu chez moi. Served on a bed of sauteed kale with a side of steamed baby carrots, red pepper slices and cherry tomatoes, also flavored by the onion's pan drippings.)
Most important---Our enthusiam for tilling the square inch and faith that good works and good thoughts are valuable.
NYCVG
Regarding Benedryl
Someone mentioned the efficacy of Benadryl in treating post-COVID rash.
I have started to take one a day with breakfast. My rash is remarkably better. Not certain it was the magic, or if the rash was going away of its' own accord. Regardless, the relief is very welcome.
I have learned so much in The Dose.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
me too...
And I guess I wrote this piece in response to recent posts that object to this conversation because it doesn't follow the "brought to you by Pfizer" mentality. I feel people are entitled to their own view...just like you...and me...and thee.
Thank you all for thinking and posting your thoughts!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I mentioned Benadryl with some trepidation
....suggesting that one should stock up before Benadryl is designated a "Horse Pill" — a la Ivermectin.
There has been some buzz about Benadryl at the far edges for some time, but not yet enough for the NIH or FDA to burn and pillage anyone who tries it out. Such is the nature of anecdotal evidence in this era of medical heresy.
I am glad to hear you tried it and that it worked for you. (It does appear to have worked for many others.) Thanks for letting us know. I was not aware you had long covid or I would have directed additional information your way.
Best of health to you, OTC.
Thanks, Pluto
Seems drs. do not wish to discuss, or even put it in my patient info, that I may have long haul COVID rash. Yet, any time I mention it to a pharmacist, they immediately say, "yeah...try this."
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Ahem…
I suggested that you take it months ago remember? Hmmm…. :j
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
omigod!
Damn. You gotta slap me upside the head sometimes, chica!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
ATTN: A HOAX. There is NO DEAL
It is hard to tell what is real from what has been concocted.
NYCVG