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Very nice. I like the way the lighter colors draw your attention in the first photo.
The Pelicans are regular winter visitors. They start to show up around Oct-Nov and head back north around Mar-Apr.
Those are wonderful photos of water birds in flight. I was surprised to see the Pelican.
A couple grounded photos ...
Thanks for posting and hosting Social. Have a good evening all.
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It makes sense the pelicans come to inland waters where it's warm, and less wintery on the coast.
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Very nice. I like the way the lighter colors draw your attention in the first photo.
The Pelicans are regular winter visitors. They start to show up around Oct-Nov and head back north around Mar-Apr.
@janis b
Beautiful photos Janis! I could just get lost in there. So inviting. Makes me wish I could just walk into it. I'm green over your greens.
Those are wonderful photos of water birds in flight. I was surprised to see the Pelican.
A couple grounded photos ...
Thanks for posting and hosting Social. Have a good evening all.
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Those are wonderful photos of water birds in flight. I was surprised to see the Pelican.
A couple grounded photos ...
Thanks for posting and hosting Social. Have a good evening all.
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Those are wonderful photos of water birds in flight. I was surprised to see the Pelican.
A couple grounded photos ...
Thanks for posting and hosting Social. Have a good evening all.
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Unfortunately, I've gone through any bird photos I might have, so something from earlier this year.
We might get 8" of snow tonight (sigh).
Off to the UK next week. Given the new variant, it might prove to be Mission Impossible (double sigh).
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Really love to watch the birds landing over water with their feet in the landing position. I wonder how long Wilbur and Orville watched birds to get this idea for flight? Have a good evening all!
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From looking at his drawing, De Vinci must have spent a lot of time watching birds and thinking of flight too.
Really love to watch the birds landing over water with their feet in the landing position. I wonder how long Wilbur and Orville watched birds to get this idea for flight? Have a good evening all!
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If I was half my age I might consider trying to sell my photos online, but I'm old and retired and content with posting photos here on c99 for others to see.
Love the egret and the pelicans. You could make $$d selling your stuff do you know that?
My two pelicans look great on my wall. Wish I had room for 2 more but sadly every wall is taken.
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Outstanding flight photos SP! Beautiful work man! Birds in flight are like butterflies on flowers for subject matter, you can't go wrong. The far more stationary butterflies and flowers are a LOT easier to capture. The challenge of bird flight photography is considered by some of its practitioners as the ultimate hunting. You don't even have to be close with a shotgun, compared to a bird flight photograph. Shotguns are for the sloppy. Real men use a 400 or 500 mm lens. Most of my better stuff is un-scanned slides from prior decades though... Have a 1955 400mm f4.5 Telemegor (Zeiss glass) that was a wonderful lens.
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Photographing birds in flight is a challenge, and the smaller the bird the harder they are for me to get good shots.
Zeiss makes really good glass. I have a pair of their binoculars (8x42) that I use for bird watching.
Outstanding flight photos SP! Beautiful work man! Birds in flight are like butterflies on flowers for subject matter, you can't go wrong. The far more stationary butterflies and flowers are a LOT easier to capture. The challenge of bird flight photography is considered by some of its practitioners as the ultimate hunting. You don't even have to be close with a shotgun, compared to a bird flight photograph. Shotguns are for the sloppy. Real men use a 400 or 500 mm lens. Most of my better stuff is un-scanned slides from prior decades though... Have a 1955 400mm f4.5 Telemegor (Zeiss glass) that was a wonderful lens.
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Those Zeiss are outstanding bins, as we birders call them. Binoculars. The Zeiss, Leitz, and Svarovski are I think nowadays considered the top three bins. Formerly the Bausch & Lomb Elite were considered the best by many, which is what I have used for 30 years. But the deal is when you get to big money bins is, the best one for you is the one that feels right in your hands, with your fingers, and looking through. You are going to see or ID the birds essentially the same with any of them. How does it feel to you? Fender or Gibson?
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Photographing birds in flight is a challenge, and the smaller the bird the harder they are for me to get good shots.
Zeiss makes really good glass. I have a pair of their binoculars (8x42) that I use for bird watching.
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that applies to cameras as well. The problem these days is there are so many models to choose from and so few brick and mortar stores where you can go pick them up and hold and compare them to see which one is right for you.
#5.1 Those Zeiss are outstanding bins, as we birders call them. Binoculars. The Zeiss, Leitz, and Svarovski are I think nowadays considered the top three bins. Formerly the Bausch & Lomb Elite were considered the best by many, which is what I have used for 30 years. But the deal is when you get to big money bins is, the best one for you is the one that feels right in your hands, with your fingers, and looking through. You are going to see or ID the birds essentially the same with any of them. How does it feel to you? Fender or Gibson?
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Outstanding flight photos SP! Beautiful work man! Birds in flight are like butterflies on flowers for subject matter, you can't go wrong. The far more stationary butterflies and flowers are a LOT easier to capture. The challenge of bird flight photography is considered by some of its practitioners as the ultimate hunting. You don't even have to be close with a shotgun, compared to a bird flight photograph. Shotguns are for the sloppy. Real men use a 400 or 500 mm lens. Most of my better stuff is un-scanned slides from prior decades though... Have a 1955 400mm f4.5 Telemegor (Zeiss glass) that was a wonderful lens.
A quick glance only shows some soaring raptors... which were supposed to be used was it last week you did raptors, but ya see I am on Texas time, and need about a week to get up to speed... apologies for the fuzzy pixylated images...
just fledged juvenile Red-tailed Hawk
this is an adult, these are the subspecies fuertesi
adult Red-shouldered Hawk
Zone-tailed Hawk - are actually black with a white tail band
Northern Harrier - formerly called Marsh Hawk
Hope all are doing well!
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@dystopian
I've only seen a Northern Harrier one time. Nice looking bird. Would love to get a shot of one.
A quick glance only shows some soaring raptors... which were supposed to be used was it last week you did raptors, but ya see I am on Texas time, and need about a week to get up to speed... apologies for the fuzzy pixylated images...
just fledged juvenile Red-tailed Hawk
this is an adult, these are the subspecies fuertesi
adult Red-shouldered Hawk
Zone-tailed Hawk - are actually black with a white tail band
Northern Harrier - formerly called Marsh Hawk
Hope all are doing well!
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which is new to me. Harrier makes me want to get down to the Bay marshes.
be well and have a good one.
A quick glance only shows some soaring raptors... which were supposed to be used was it last week you did raptors, but ya see I am on Texas time, and need about a week to get up to speed... apologies for the fuzzy pixylated images...
just fledged juvenile Red-tailed Hawk
this is an adult, these are the subspecies fuertesi
adult Red-shouldered Hawk
Zone-tailed Hawk - are actually black with a white tail band
Northern Harrier - formerly called Marsh Hawk
Hope all are doing well!
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Somehow my sense of excitement always includes a sense of dread for their prey.
A quick glance only shows some soaring raptors... which were supposed to be used was it last week you did raptors, but ya see I am on Texas time, and need about a week to get up to speed... apologies for the fuzzy pixylated images...
just fledged juvenile Red-tailed Hawk
this is an adult, these are the subspecies fuertesi
adult Red-shouldered Hawk
Zone-tailed Hawk - are actually black with a white tail band
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
A new storm coming in over the Great Salt Lake looking west towards antelope island
Looking south towards Salt Lake City
Unfortunately the pictures don’t show how elevated I was high up on the foothills. Across the street from here is one very nice house I’d love to live in so I could watch storms and sunsets over the lake. I had to admit that our sunsets over the lake beat lots of sunsets over the ocean because we don’t have fog banks.
Sam keeps asking if I’m sure that I don’t need more socks. It’s her ruse to bring me something so she can have a milkbone. I’m surrounded by socks and toys. If you don’t hear from me…I’ve gotten buried…..send help.
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looking clouds in that second shot, Snoopy.
A new storm coming in over the Great Salt Lake looking west towards antelope island
Looking south towards Salt Lake City
Unfortunately the pictures don’t show how elevated I was high up on the foothills. Across the street from here is one very nice house I’d love to live in so I could watch storms and sunsets over the lake. I had to admit that our sunsets over the lake beat lots of sunsets over the ocean because we don’t have fog banks.
Sam keeps asking if I’m sure that I don’t need more socks. It’s her ruse to bring me something so she can have a milkbone. I’m surrounded by socks and toys. If you don’t hear from me…I’ve gotten buried…..send help.
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I think I could tolerate the cold in exchange for being in that space with that vision.
How sweet are dogs!
A new storm coming in over the Great Salt Lake looking west towards antelope island
Looking south towards Salt Lake City
Unfortunately the pictures don’t show how elevated I was high up on the foothills. Across the street from here is one very nice house I’d love to live in so I could watch storms and sunsets over the lake. I had to admit that our sunsets over the lake beat lots of sunsets over the ocean because we don’t have fog banks.
Sam keeps asking if I’m sure that I don’t need more socks. It’s her ruse to bring me something so she can have a milkbone. I’m surrounded by socks and toys. If you don’t hear from me…I’ve gotten buried…..send help.
A new storm coming in over the Great Salt Lake looking west towards antelope island
Looking south towards Salt Lake City
Unfortunately the pictures don’t show how elevated I was high up on the foothills. Across the street from here is one very nice house I’d love to live in so I could watch storms and sunsets over the lake. I had to admit that our sunsets over the lake beat lots of sunsets over the ocean because we don’t have fog banks.
Sam keeps asking if I’m sure that I don’t need more socks. It’s her ruse to bring me something so she can have a milkbone. I’m surrounded by socks and toys. If you don’t hear from me…I’ve gotten buried…..send help.
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Central Oregon and Washington are good places to see Harriers. East of Bingen on the Columbia, we saw a Harrier low over a creek cut into low hills. We watched him from a gravel road above Catherine Creek. He just kept meandering up stream.
Another time in the Eastern Oregon Ochocos we saw one working a grassland populated by Antelope. Their white rump makes them easy to spot and identify.
Thanks again for great photos.
ETA: We have Hawks which except for the red tail are the same in conformation, behavior, nesting, raising one kid (who squawks when the parents try to get it airborne), upright posture on a branch. It's wonderful to see.
There are a lot of analogues here in animals and plants.
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@Dawn's Meta
This last spring we had 3 young Red-shouldered hawks that were hanging out in the canyon where I live. I have two Gum trees in my backyard they like to sit in. Needless to say, when one show up all the other birds become real scarce until it leaves.
Central Oregon and Washington are good places to see Harriers. East of Bingen on the Columbia, we saw a Harrier low over a creek cut into low hills. We watched him from a gravel road above Catherine Creek. He just kept meandering up stream.
Another time in the Eastern Oregon Ochocos we saw one working a grassland populated by Antelope. Their white rump makes them easy to spot and identify.
Thanks again for great photos.
ETA: We have Hawks which except for the red tail are the same in conformation, behavior, nesting, raising one kid (who squawks when the parents try to get it airborne), upright posture on a branch. It's wonderful to see.
There are a lot of analogues here in animals and plants.
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I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
The variations and similarities of species and places is infinitely fascinating.
Central Oregon and Washington are good places to see Harriers. East of Bingen on the Columbia, we saw a Harrier low over a creek cut into low hills. We watched him from a gravel road above Catherine Creek. He just kept meandering up stream.
Another time in the Eastern Oregon Ochocos we saw one working a grassland populated by Antelope. Their white rump makes them easy to spot and identify.
Thanks again for great photos.
ETA: We have Hawks which except for the red tail are the same in conformation, behavior, nesting, raising one kid (who squawks when the parents try to get it airborne), upright posture on a branch. It's wonderful to see.
There are a lot of analogues here in animals and plants.
@Dawn's Meta
Hi Dawn, Those are actual real buzzards there! The standard basic Euro hawk is actually named Buzzard. That is the true and correct name. There is also a Honey Buzzard that takes honeycombs (see youtube). But the standard buteo (hawks shaped like 'Red-tails') of Europe, is the Buzzard.
Which was then made confusing because when Euros settled America they called all vultures buzzards. Vultures are not hawks. There are no actual Buzzards in North America. Here in TX everyone calls all vultures (no matter if Black or Turkey) buzzards.
Central Oregon and Washington are good places to see Harriers. East of Bingen on the Columbia, we saw a Harrier low over a creek cut into low hills. We watched him from a gravel road above Catherine Creek. He just kept meandering up stream.
Another time in the Eastern Oregon Ochocos we saw one working a grassland populated by Antelope. Their white rump makes them easy to spot and identify.
Thanks again for great photos.
ETA: We have Hawks which except for the red tail are the same in conformation, behavior, nesting, raising one kid (who squawks when the parents try to get it airborne), upright posture on a branch. It's wonderful to see.
There are a lot of analogues here in animals and plants.
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Hi Social
Those are wonderful photos of water birds in flight. I was surprised to see the Pelican.
A couple grounded photos ...
Thanks for posting and hosting Social. Have a good evening all.
Hi, Janis
Very nice. I like the way the lighter colors draw your attention in the first photo.
The Pelicans are regular winter visitors. They start to show up around Oct-Nov and head back north around Mar-Apr.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Thanks Social
It makes sense the pelicans come to inland waters where it's warm, and less wintery on the coast.
Great pics Janis!
Beautiful photos Janis! I could just get lost in there. So inviting. Makes me wish I could just walk into it. I'm green over your greens.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
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Hi dystopian
I can almost guarantee even you would get lost, but don't worry the rangers would find you ; )
It makes me happy to share all the greens with you.
Wonderful, Janis. A matched set, with layer
upon layer, upon layer; love it.
be well and have a good one.
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Thank you el
Your comment makes me smile - "with layer upon layer".
Wonderful, Janis. A matched set, with layer
upon layer, upon layer; love it.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Again, thanks for hosting SP
Unfortunately, I've gone through any bird photos I might have, so something from earlier this year.
We might get 8" of snow tonight (sigh).
Off to the UK next week. Given the new variant, it might prove to be Mission Impossible (double sigh).
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Evening, BR
Excellent flower shot.
Just the thought of snow makes me cringe. Have a great time in the UK. Can't wait to see the photos.
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Travelling light
So just the phone for this trip. All being well, hopefully some decent shots.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Hi Bollox
I like how you combine b&w with some colour. It reminds me of old hand-coloured b&w prints.
I hope your trip goes as smoothly as possible.
Thanks
So do we.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Wow, fabulous, thanks
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thanks for all the birds in flight photos!
Really love to watch the birds landing over water with their feet in the landing position. I wonder how long Wilbur and Orville watched birds to get this idea for flight? Have a good evening all!
Life is what you make it, so make it something worthwhile.
This ain't no dress rehearsal!
Evening, jakkalbessie
From looking at his drawing, De Vinci must have spent a lot of time watching birds and thinking of flight too.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Awesome photos!
Love the egret and the pelicans. You could make $$d selling your stuff do you know that?
My two pelicans look great on my wall. Wish I had room for 2 more but sadly every wall is taken.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Thank you, Snoopy
If I was half my age I might consider trying to sell my photos online, but I'm old and retired and content with posting photos here on c99 for others to see.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
GREAT pics SP!
Outstanding flight photos SP! Beautiful work man! Birds in flight are like butterflies on flowers for subject matter, you can't go wrong. The far more stationary butterflies and flowers are a LOT easier to capture. The challenge of bird flight photography is considered by some of its practitioners as the ultimate hunting. You don't even have to be close with a shotgun, compared to a bird flight photograph. Shotguns are for the sloppy.
Real men use a 400 or 500 mm lens. 
Most of my better stuff is un-scanned slides from prior decades though... Have a 1955 400mm f4.5 Telemegor (Zeiss glass) that was a wonderful lens.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Thank you, dystopian
Photographing birds in flight is a challenge, and the smaller the bird the harder they are for me to get good shots.
Zeiss makes really good glass. I have a pair of their binoculars (8x42) that I use for bird watching.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
nice binocs
Those Zeiss are outstanding bins, as we birders call them. Binoculars. The Zeiss, Leitz, and Svarovski are I think nowadays considered the top three bins. Formerly the Bausch & Lomb Elite were considered the best by many, which is what I have used for 30 years. But the deal is when you get to big money bins is, the best one for you is the one that feels right in your hands, with your fingers, and looking through. You are going to see or ID the birds essentially the same with any of them. How does it feel to you? Fender or Gibson?
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
That's good advice
that applies to cameras as well. The problem these days is there are so many models to choose from and so few brick and mortar stores where you can go pick them up and hold and compare them to see which one is right for you.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
"Real men use a 400 or 500 mm lens."
; )))
A quick glance only shows
A quick glance only shows some soaring raptors... which were supposed to be used was it last week you did raptors, but ya see I am on Texas time, and need about a week to get up to speed... apologies for the fuzzy pixylated images...
just fledged juvenile Red-tailed Hawk
this is an adult, these are the subspecies fuertesi
adult Red-shouldered Hawk
Zone-tailed Hawk - are actually black with a white tail band
Northern Harrier - formerly called Marsh Hawk
Hope all are doing well!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Nice hawk series, destopian
I've only seen a Northern Harrier one time. Nice looking bird. Would love to get a shot of one.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Nice birds, dysto, especially the sone-tailed,
which is new to me. Harrier makes me want to get down to the Bay marshes.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
They may not be sharp,
but they're exciting to see.
I occasionally see a harrier, the Kahu
Somehow my sense of excitement always includes a sense of dread for their prey.
Great pics, Social, thanks. Now ya got me thinking about
Santee, of all places.
be well and have a good one
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Thank you, EL
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From high above Ogden
A new storm coming in over the Great Salt Lake looking west towards antelope island
Looking south towards Salt Lake City
Unfortunately the pictures don’t show how elevated I was high up on the foothills. Across the street from here is one very nice house I’d love to live in so I could watch storms and sunsets over the lake. I had to admit that our sunsets over the lake beat lots of sunsets over the ocean because we don’t have fog banks.
Sam keeps asking if I’m sure that I don’t need more socks. It’s her ruse to bring me something so she can have a milkbone. I’m surrounded by socks and toys. If you don’t hear from me…I’ve gotten buried…..send help.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Those are some really dramatic
looking clouds in that second shot, Snoopy.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Gorgeous snoopy
I think I could tolerate the cold in exchange for being in that space with that vision.
How sweet are dogs!
beautiful photos SD!
great pics SD! Awesome! Beautiful!
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
Fantastic photos SP and everyone.
Central Oregon and Washington are good places to see Harriers. East of Bingen on the Columbia, we saw a Harrier low over a creek cut into low hills. We watched him from a gravel road above Catherine Creek. He just kept meandering up stream.
Another time in the Eastern Oregon Ochocos we saw one working a grassland populated by Antelope. Their white rump makes them easy to spot and identify.
Thanks again for great photos.
ETA: We have Hawks which except for the red tail are the same in conformation, behavior, nesting, raising one kid (who squawks when the parents try to get it airborne), upright posture on a branch. It's wonderful to see.
There are a lot of analogues here in animals and plants.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.
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Good morning, DM
This last spring we had 3 young Red-shouldered hawks that were hanging out in the canyon where I live. I have two Gum trees in my backyard they like to sit in. Needless to say, when one show up all the other birds become real scarce until it leaves.
I'm great at multi-tasking. I can waste time, be unproductive, and procrastinate all at the same time.
Hi Dawn
The variations and similarities of species and places is infinitely fascinating.
Real Buzzards you've got there
Hi Dawn, Those are actual real buzzards there! The standard basic Euro hawk is actually named Buzzard. That is the true and correct name. There is also a Honey Buzzard that takes honeycombs (see youtube). But the standard buteo (hawks shaped like 'Red-tails') of Europe, is the Buzzard.
Which was then made confusing because when Euros settled America they called all vultures buzzards. Vultures are not hawks. There are no actual Buzzards in North America. Here in TX everyone calls all vultures (no matter if Black or Turkey) buzzards.
We cannot solve our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them.
Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
both - Albert Einstein
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Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.