questions - confusions over confusions - why do I even care?

ok, here I go:

In 1973 I accompanied the father of my then baby child to his homeland Cameroon. I was there may be six weeks and we stood with the family in the main City of "Yaounde", the port city of "Douala" and went to the village of his birth, called "Lolodorf" ('Dorf' is actually a German word for tiny village, and Lolo derives from an apparently important man way back in time called Loule.)

I got a taste of people's attitudes, from very nice to very dangerous. That in itself one should expect, but some things - left untold - amazed me in their cruelty.

After that trip, in which we showed off our baby to the family, we got back to Berlin in Germany, where we both were students at the Technical University in Berlin.

After a while I got every four weeks high fever attacks and I did not know why. They came exactly every four weeks and the fever knocked me out badly so that I couldn't stand up anymore. It didn't last longer than one day or two, and was gone after that to nowhere.

As it came every four weeks, I thought it had something to do with my menstrual cycle. After having gone through that for a year or so, I got blood veins in my eyes all of the sudden. It looked awful, but did not hurt at all.

I don't remember why, but I remembered my sister in law in Cameroon, who was weak and feaverish often, saying 'Oh It is nothing, just the filaires (in in English it is called Filaria).

So I looked up what 'filaires' were translated to in German. It is called Filaria and my little medical lexicon was so nice to tell me that there is a type of filaria called 'Loa Loa' and is found most often in the tropical rain forests of Cameroon. So there it was, I had the bloody eye vessels, so it must have been 'the loa loa filariose'. I went to the assigned student physician, told him what I suspected I had and he - being surprised over my detective work considering my mystery fever attacks - said he wants to send my blood to the Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine in Hamburg. They confirmed my findings. And they said which drug I should take to knock the filaires one over head. I did and boom the guys in my blood were all dead and I never again had a fever attack of that sort again.

This story seems to indicate that you can knock out these parasites with proper medication.

So, when I heard about Covid for the first time, I wondered if the Virus had similar features like the 'filaires' have. I couldn't figure it out. But the fact that Ivermectin seems to be able to 'kill the virus off' made me believe, may be there is a similarity, though filaria goes under nematodes and the Covid under viruses.

The reason why I got the fever attacks exactly every four weeks, was because these pesky worms make their babies every four weeks and released their eggs in my blood and that caused the fever. I never saw a worm crawling over my eye, as it is described in Wikipedia, but I know that poor village folks, who never saw or got any medical attention, really had visible worms in their eyes.

I guess the question I have in how far those little nematodes are so different from the virus we seem not get a handle on. And why they couldn't be knocked out by a drug like Ivermectin.

Any thoughts?

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Pricknick's picture

But the fact that Ivermectin

It is not a fact at this time.
Nematodes are parasitic. Ivermectin is proven (fact) to be a top line drug for many parasitic infestations. But not all of them.
The jury is still very far out on the usefulness of ivermectin in the treatment of any form of covid. In fact, what was once the primary study on the use of ivermectin for covid 19 has been removed from medical literature due to a horrifically unsound study that many were fooled to believe in.
Hope this helps a little.
Never give up hope.

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@Pricknick @Pricknick They are trying to inhibit research on ivermectin? What exactly happened? Do you know?

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@zed2
I'll post theirs first:
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021/jul/16/huge-study-supporting-iv...
Another one from medscape:
https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/954681

I'm hopeful for any inexpensive drug to help those inflicted with any malaise. Unfortunately, it becomes increasingly hard to impossible for funding of such to be introduced.
Big rx pays many politicians to keep it that way.

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@Pricknick

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@zed2 in progress right now at Oxford, or should say done by Oxford maybe. I read there is at least one other study happening, but have no details about it. There were a couple of links posted yesterday in a comment by Student of Earth that explain in detail what was wrong with the ivermectin study paper that was withdrawn.

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@Granma studies of Ivermectin in progress at this time. There should be some answers when these are complete.

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@Pricknick
just said. "be careful what you wish for". All I wish for is to get my health status back at what it was in 2020 or even earlier.

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What you had sounds like river blindness, or onchocerciasis which is caused by the filaria Onchocerca volvulus. Its one of the most common causes of blindness in the world. Its so common that doctors see it fairly frequently even here in the US (in travelers usually)

Covid is caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

It starts looking like money is involved a lot. I hope people realize how controversial the US's IP-maximalism is right now. (the link is to one of the best fora on IP and health)

Check it out if you care about whether money is okay to make so important in epidemics.

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@zed2 @zed2 @zed2
just saying.

Filaria Loa Loa was diagnosed in the mid 1970ies, a time when no internet publications could confuse peoples minds. The Bernhard Nocht Institute for Tropical Medicine in Hamburg, Germany, has been and still is top notch in their research and diagnostic capabilities of diseases in the tropical regions of the world. If I had river blindness they would certainly diagnosed it and proven by their tests.

They had very specific tests 48 years ago and that hasn't changed.

PS: Thanks for the IP link.

PS 2: My sister got Dengue fever after a visit to Goa in India accompanying her husband there. The Dengue fever was correctly diagnosed by the tests the Bernard Nocht Insitute made. That too was a long time ago.

Just saying.

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"Why do I even care" is a good question. For myself I would answer, "for a more 'healthy' future".

Possibility is something I know motivates you, even when you want to give up.

Thank you for sharing your experience and questions, and all the best to you always, mimi.

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