@wendy davis  
before.

#1

and thanks for adding a few of the Cliffs notes for me. re: Twitter deplatforming, O, what a bird brain I yam! I'd meant to add this...news, but i couldn't find it on RT.com again.

Today we’re introducing @Birdwatch, a community-driven approach to addressing misleading information. And we want your help. (1/3) pic.twitter.com/aYJILZ7iKB

— Twitter Support (@TwitterSupport) January 25, 2021

Today we’re introducing @Birdwatch, a community-driven approach to addressing misleading information. And we want your help. (1/3) pic.twitter.com/aYJILZ7iKB

— Twitter Support (@TwitterSupport) January 25, 2021

@birdwatch 22h

We believe this approach has the potential to respond quickly when misleading information spreads, adding context that people trust and find valuable.

@birdwatch 22h

We’re building Birdwatch in public. As a community-driven system, it should be shaped by the community. We’ve taken steps to make Birdwatch transparent: Birdwatch data and its algorithms will be shared publicly so people can help improve them.

Learn more: http://twitter.github.io/birdwatch

@birdwatch 22h

Want to help create a better informed world? Sign up and help us shape Birdwatch: https://twitter.com/i/flow/join-birdwatch

Our DMs are open and feel free to @ us any time

Yes, spread the responsibility and blame, you agitprop grifter, Jack!

‘A model worth trying’

Twitter said that it expects to have between 1,000 and 10,000 Birdwatchers who are being admitted on rolling bases and who will not be paid. In the blogpost, vice president of product, Keith Coleman, said that the notes will ultimately be visible to the global Twitter audience. Following the launch, the firm also said that Birdwatch can be found on a separate section of Twitter - twitter.com/i/birdwatch.

Coleman said, “We know there are a number of challenges toward building a community-driven system like this – from making it resistant to manipulation attempts to ensure it isn’t dominated by a simple majority or biased based on its distribution of contributors. We believe this is a model worth trying”.

@wendy davis

Q: how do you know dore hadn't done any research on him?

...and Jimmy didn't ask any tough questions.
Basically when someone presents themselves as something contrary to what their group is known for you should be skeptical (as a journalist). That doesn't mean you shouldn't give them a chance.
But it does mean that you should put them into a position to prove that they are 1) telling the truth, and 2) represent more than just themselves.
To do that you must do research ahead of time.
I studied journalism in college a lifetime ago. If you had done your research then you will have tough questions. Or you suck as a journalist.

#2

you're doing better now.

a Q: how do you know dore hadn't done any research on him?

another: this was from the piece at RT.com:

The group has called for a revolution in the United States, peaceful or otherwise.

was that in the interview, or was RT just...painting w/ a MSM brush?

i will say i have a great objection to deplatforming. from rob urie at counterpunch:

"One of the revelations that emerged from the Church Committee hearings in 1975 was that the CIA had spied on and infiltrated anti-war groups to undermine them politically. It was thereafter precluded from acting against U.S. citizens domestically. But a loophole was left open that it could contract with private corporations to perform the domestic political functions it had formerly carried out itself. In 2001, within weeks of 9/11, the Patriot Act codified the CIA’s ability to work with ISPs (Internet Service Providers) and ‘platforms’ like Facebook and Twitter to collect and use nominally private information for internally defined purposes.

From the ACLU:

"One of the revelations that emerged from the Church Committee hearings in 1975 was that the CIA had spied on and infiltrated anti-war groups to undermine them politically. It was thereafter precluded from acting against U.S. citizens domestically. But a loophole was left open that it could contract with private corporations to perform the domestic political functions it had formerly carried out itself. In 2001, within weeks of 9/11, the Patriot Act codified the CIA’s ability to work with ISPs (Internet Service Providers) and ‘platforms’ like Facebook and Twitter to collect and use nominally private information for internally defined purposes.

The Patriot Act, which President-elect Joe Biden claims to have written, both codifies the corporate-state form and gives it an explicitly political character. Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg testified publicly that the company uses data-mining techniques to create political profiles of both its users and people who have never had a relationship with the company. To be clear, Facebook is profiling everyone. Through supplying this information to the American government— the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc., to be used towards political ends, the entire technology industry was made a de facto branch of the Federal government."

nominally private companies, but not really...as they're tools of the Capitalist government the government.

@wendy davis

the Patriot Act codified the CIA’s ability to work with ISPs (Internet Service Providers) and ‘platforms’ like Facebook and Twitter to collect and use nominally private information for internally defined purposes.

Oh wait......

#2

you're doing better now.

a Q: how do you know dore hadn't done any research on him?

another: this was from the piece at RT.com:

The group has called for a revolution in the United States, peaceful or otherwise.

was that in the interview, or was RT just...painting w/ a MSM brush?

i will say i have a great objection to deplatforming. from rob urie at counterpunch:

"One of the revelations that emerged from the Church Committee hearings in 1975 was that the CIA had spied on and infiltrated anti-war groups to undermine them politically. It was thereafter precluded from acting against U.S. citizens domestically. But a loophole was left open that it could contract with private corporations to perform the domestic political functions it had formerly carried out itself. In 2001, within weeks of 9/11, the Patriot Act codified the CIA’s ability to work with ISPs (Internet Service Providers) and ‘platforms’ like Facebook and Twitter to collect and use nominally private information for internally defined purposes.

From the ACLU:

"One of the revelations that emerged from the Church Committee hearings in 1975 was that the CIA had spied on and infiltrated anti-war groups to undermine them politically. It was thereafter precluded from acting against U.S. citizens domestically. But a loophole was left open that it could contract with private corporations to perform the domestic political functions it had formerly carried out itself. In 2001, within weeks of 9/11, the Patriot Act codified the CIA’s ability to work with ISPs (Internet Service Providers) and ‘platforms’ like Facebook and Twitter to collect and use nominally private information for internally defined purposes.

The Patriot Act, which President-elect Joe Biden claims to have written, both codifies the corporate-state form and gives it an explicitly political character. Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg testified publicly that the company uses data-mining techniques to create political profiles of both its users and people who have never had a relationship with the company. To be clear, Facebook is profiling everyone. Through supplying this information to the American government— the CIA, FBI, NSA, etc., to be used towards political ends, the entire technology industry was made a de facto branch of the Federal government."

nominally private companies, but not really...as they're tools of the Capitalist government the government.

@Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal Say what you will about white-supremacists, most of them are pretty forthright about their ideology (the irony in this case, of course, being that being dishonest about racism back then meant hiding the extent to which you weren't - e.g. the infamous Fritz Lang story).

I think a better quote for understanding Hitler himself is actually this one:

"Belief in a cruel God makes a cruel man."
― Thomas Paine

#3

"The great strength of the totalitarian state is that it forces those who fear it to imitate it."
- Adolf Hitler

I didn't know he was that honest about what a dick he was.

@Blue Republic I had no idea Lemon was such a self-incriminating douche. My mind was cluttering (https://www.orai.com/blog/cluttering-speech/) with responses to what he said in that first clip alone. I had no idea the official corporate media would be so easy to argue with, either. That itself is alarming.

He fucking IS on their side - no, worse, he is on the side that CREATED them!

The real question is: Do the .01% REALIZE they are directly responsible for this? This is EXACTLY how Nazi Germany was created.

These Hodge Twin guys sure are interesting. The fact that you can't tell their ethnicity - and how the PC-racist doctrine informs one how to react to what they're talking about here would hinge hugely on the answer to that (well gee, what if they're mulatto? They're certainly Southern AF) speaks volumes in and of itself. They remind me immediately and in more than one respect of THIS:

#3

and relevant comment Moonbat.

As long as we allow majority rule to dictate morality, we are saying that might makes right, because that's all an appeal to numbers can ever be: An appeal not to Ethos, nor to Logos, but to Kratos.

Sounds kind of like an argument for a constitutional republic of limited powers. As opposed to the 'two wolves and one sheep deciding what's for dinner' of pure democracy or autocracy in its various manifestations.

The Hodge twins have a few thoughts on media and white supremacy:

@wendy davis

According to Jimmy Dore in this clip.

Jerry, who is the target of Jimmy's wrath in this segment because he wasn't happy that the Boogaloo guy was on the show before him.

Apparently Jimmy's idea of listening to other viewpoints does not include people who actually disagree with him. Haha. That is truly ironic. I mean come on now... Jimmy Dore does not even listen to people who agree with him! He is notorious for talking over everyone. And as for listening to those who disagree with him, that is hilarious! He steamrolls over anyone who dares to challenge him on anything. Just give a listen to the "Force the Vote Town Hall" for a taste of how JD treats people who he disagrees with, even on a question of tactics. He was aggressive, rude, nasty, name-calling, cutting them off, rolling his eyes and smirking when they do get a word in edgewise, etc. The very epitome of not listening to anyone who does not agree with his every word.

The fact is, Jimmy doesn't "disagree" with the Boogaloo Boi he interviewed. That was the whole point. "See how much we agree!!!" That's why Jimmy had him on the show in the first place.

As soon as JD listens with any respect whatsoever to anyone who actually disagrees with him on anything, then he might have something to say about how we all need to do the same. Sheesh.

#4

in order that i might glean some Cliffs Notes, but this was largely the sense of the room:

Didn’t Jerry just say the Left & Right can’t come together? Of course we can!! I’m a Trump voter who listens and agrees with Jimmy on most things!!

jerry who?

@wendy davis , for the World Socialist Web Site. His name is Jerry White.
From wikipedia;

He is a member of the Socialist Equality Party of the United States, and was a member of its predecessor the Workers League, joining the movement in 1979.[1] White was the SEP candidate for United States President four times, running in 1996, in 2008, in 2012, and in 2016.[2][3]

#4

in order that i might glean some Cliffs Notes, but this was largely the sense of the room:

Didn’t Jerry just say the Left & Right can’t come together? Of course we can!! I’m a Trump voter who listens and agrees with Jimmy on most things!!

jerry who?