MSNBC makes the only honest case for voting for Biden

Well that won me over.

You can tell how much they respect progressives and share their values.

I'm still waiting for someone to ask the question, "How would Biden be a better president than Trump, for someone on the Left?"

From 8 years ago.

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Threat? This asshole has been President for three and a half years. What is he going to do that he has not already done?

Cut taxes again? Build a wall that actually exists? Promise and then renege on withdrawing troops even more often? Collude even more with Russia? Maybe quit contradicting himself -- that would confuse the shit out of the Main Stream Media.

It has gotten past the point where civility and respect mean anything as these cretins run The Invisible Man against Trump -- a guy who has the nomination in spite of his own campaign, a guy who offers no change, and, at the end of the day, a guy who will not really be the President of the United States even if he wins and moves into the White House. Just shut up and get in line.

This spit in the face from the Inside of the Democratic Party is just about the zillionth confirmation of our status as a Banana Republic.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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@fire with fire

a guy who has the nomination in spite of his own campaign

The only reason he won was because Obama cleared the field for him by making Pete and Amy drop out and leaving Liz in to take votes away from Bernie. Plus the DNC clearly rigged the primary starting with the shenanigans in Iowa and who knows how many other states? The states that Biden won were called for him the same night, but it took weeks before they called it for Bernie. I saw a tweet last week showing how exit polls were off by over 10% in 4 states.

So did ByeDone actually win even though he had never won a state in his other two elections and none until he won Super Tuesday? I will never believe that he did fair and square.

mind if I bitch a bit? my neighbors have been shooting fireworks for 5 f’cking hours straight and they are not the little ones. huge explosions and Charlie has had enough. they are supposed to have stopped 32 minutes ago....one after another!

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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” - John Adams

@snoopydawg But even if it is precisely accurate, it does not mean that it was Obama who dreamed up the Super Tuesday Con Job. Biden was a bad taste joke as of the Nevada Caucus, after almost a year of retail campaigning that saw him go from Prohibitive Favorite to Harold Stassen. He could not even raise money and he did not campaign in the Super Tuesday states that reported him as the winner. Between Mayor Pete and Mayor Bloomie, close to a billion dollars was spent in Stalking Horse races that ended abruptly and in unison with Amy Klobuchar's. Once Stalking Horse candidate Pocahontas skimmed a few final votes from Sanders on Super Tuesday, she joined in the mass hari kari. As a group, the four contenders all apologized for beating Biden in prior contests.

That is what I meant by calling Joe the Invisible Man. As Trump is a skilled hatchet man on television, maybe the Dem Brain Trust is on to something with running a non-existent candidate against him. One on one, nobody can beat Trump -- ergo, run Nobody against him. Personally, I don't buy that theory myself, but it makes more sense that the ridiculous tale we are supposed to believe to the effect that all four candidates just gave up their dreams of grandeur because Barack Obama suggested that Biden was too good of a candidate to keep whipping up on.

Obama never had that kind of stick when he was POTUS. He obeyed people like Bloomberg, rather than order them to piss away the better part of a billion bucks on political trickery. "What I need from you, Mr. Mayor, is a national media buy of several hundred mill before I tell you to quit. Be ready to endorse who I tell you to endorse when my call comes."

Yeah, right.

All of the above got whooshed down the Memory Hole when The Asteroid Virus hit.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

@fire with fire alone who would make the call to completely rig those primaries, no matter what "juice" Obama now has with our owners HE does not make the call, THEY do. The very idea that POTUS runs this country should be debunked for the outright lie it is. As for Trump colluding with Russia, please. Russia did not set up the current oligarchy that owns us here. This country never needed any assistance to flush itself down the toilet. Between the enforced ignorance of an under educated populace and the massive amounts of propaganda our owners have exactly what they want, a populace more worried about which flavor of ownership they prefer, and damn anyone who does not agree with that particular flavor because Only that flavor will Save Us.

Obama and even Trump will play right along with what our owners want or they'll end up destroyed or completely irrelevant and broke to boot. They know who butters their bread and it ain't the People. At the very least these people are indeed malignant narcissists, at worst they're outright psychopaths, and you'd think by now people would see that but nope, not in Idiot America, the America manufactured by the very sickos we allow to rule us. USA, USA, USA!

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Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur

@snoopydawg After enduring 6 straight hours of the sounds of street warfare, I will now refer to July 4 as Assholes Day.

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@tle

if anyone captured it from the air.

I can’t begin to imagine how much money people blew up on the 4th. I don’t think they are legal in Utah so on top of the money spent on buying them they had to drive to Wyoming to buy them there. Gas is $2.29 gallon here still. Just insane.

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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” - John Adams

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It’s ironic that, one of the #Whitemen responsible for the mass incarceration of #Blackmen is dependent on the #BlackVote! It’s not the responsibility of the CAPTIVES to save the EMPIRE! The FALL of the EMPIRE, frees the CAPTIVES!

I have never understood why any black persons have voted for any democrat after Biden wrote the crime bill that Bill Clinton signed into law. And after Hillary called them Super Predators and Biden said that he didn’t want his family growing up in the jungle.

This article says that progressives should boycott the election and definitely should not vote for Joe Biden.

The Data is Clear: Progressives Should Boycott Biden

Which is better for the progressive movement? Fall into the “two party trap” and vote for Biden, or refuse to be coopted and possibly increase Trump’s reelection chances?

My new book Political Suicide: The Fight for the Soul of the Democratic Party documents the last half-century of struggle between the party’s left-leaning voters and its right-leaning leadership class. History is clear. When progressive voters compromised their values by supporting corporatist candidates, they were ignored after the election. Only when they boycotted a general election did the DNC start to take them seriously.

Throughout the 1980s party bigwigs manipulated the primaries in favor of establishment corporatist candidates over insurgent progressives: Jimmy Carter over Ted Kennedy in 1980, Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis over Jesse Jackson in 1984 and 1988. Democrats were united but unenthused; all three lost.

Jimmy Carter won once, and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama each won two terms, all three with progressive support. Democratic victories didn’t help progressives.

There was only one arguably progressive policy achievement over those 16 years: the Affordable Care Act, which originated in the bowels of the conservative Heritage Foundation think tank.

This is debatable in my opinion. What the hideously flawed ACA did was to derail single payer. For how long remains to be seen. Even now in the middle of the epidemic and massive unemployment and when millions of people have lost their health insurance Biden is saying that he will not pass MFA. He will however low the age of Medicare to 60. Big whoop. Herheinous was gonna lower it to 55. Big whoop there too, but Biden really doesn’t even wanna throw us a bone.

If progressives boycott the election and Trump wins we deal with him for 4 years. But if Biden wins then we might have his policies that won’t be as bad as Trump’s, but they won’t be that great for us either. Remember how Biden and MyBoss watched as 9 million people lost their homes, student loan debt continued to rise and numerous other stats for the 99% got worse.

Ab If democrats are not going to stand up to Trump and stop his agendas then why would anyone think that they won’t be pushing for them under Biden? He’s promising much of the same things that MyBoss promised us and look at how that turned out for us. Biden is sayin that he will rescind the Trump tax cuts. MyBoss promised that he’d rescind the Bush tax cuts too. Yeah how’d that work out for us?

This is a great article and this bozo who is telling us to grow the hell up should read it. Then he can go to hell.

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“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” - John Adams

Before the Dem nomination.

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@Battle of Blair Mountain Although the scramble and parade of justifications would be more entertaining.

Come to think of it, I have no idea who they’d install. I doubt they could get away with another old white dude. Who do they have? Kamala? Abrams? Hillary again? Lord, what a shitshow that would be.

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@Dr. John Carpenter the outcry for Bernie, who clearly won second place, and the threat of a violent rebellion if he is not, would force their hands - while probably exposing BLM leadership for being DNC controlled.

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@Battle of Blair Mountain No way they would ever let Bernie be on the ticket. Two rigged primaries and a lawsuit have proved that. A dead presumptive nominee isn’t going to change that fact.

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@Battle of Blair Mountain

It would ought to put Bernie in charge

There ya go.

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this video that @Lookout posted in their Weekly Watch post. It now makes perfect sense what the hell is going on in our country. We are ruled by literal NAZI's. It's long, but certainly didn't seem that long. I found it well researched and quite informative, and highly recommend everyone take the time to watch it.

JFK to 911 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick

Politicians are nothing but puppeteers to keep the masses inline. Fuck them all! It's time for REVOLUTION!

Drinks

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"Men who look upon themselves born to reign, and others to obey, soon grow insolent; selected from the rest of mankind their minds are early poisoned by importance;" - Thomas Paine, Common Sense