Tuesday Open Thread ~ Dreaming in Italian


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Good Morning!

Welcome to Tuesday’s Open Thread. I'm back from a week off where I took a trip to Italy using only my imagination and those home movies you keep inside your head. I guess you might say it was my version of a vacation. Of course, sometimes traveling is a lot more glamorous in the re-telling then it is in the original experience. But not always.

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“Venice is like eating an entire box of chocolate liqueurs in one go.” - Truman Capote
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Bella Venezia

The idea to sneak into the Cipriani was Massimo's. As long as we're not conspicuous, he told me, no one will ever know. Problem was, everywhere Massimo went he was conspicuous. Tall, dark, and Italian, he turned heads everywhere we'd go. A serious drawback if the idea was to go unnoticed.

It was the summer of 1986, I was twenty-five years old and madly in love with a boy who liked to play. With a spirit of adventure we romped through Italy like two people who had been let out of solitary confinement and were looking to make up for lost time. Rome, Naples, Sorrento, Siena, and Bologna, we had spent the last 2 weeks covering so much territory that when we arrived in Venice, our first impulse was to just chill for a day. So, what better place to do that than at a world famous luxury resort?

A stones throw from St. Mark's Square, Hotel Cipriani enjoys the distinction of being tucked away on the Island of Guidecca surrounded by gardens, tennis courts, an outdoor pool, three restaurants, and a local vineyard. With stunning views of Venice's shimmering islands, you have the singular advantage of experiencing Bella Venezia from a secluded distance, but also benefit from being close enough to all the sites. Which is where the private boat that traversed the lagoon to the hotel came in handy, as well as an Italian boyfriend who was pretty good at bullshitting his way through the series of hoops we had to jump through.

Lingering on a playground for the wealthy, the Cipriani had much to offer. Beginning with a lazy lunch by the water, we savored a freshly made dish of tagliatelle limone e vongole along with a glass of sparkling wine. Following our meal, for the purposes of digestion, a leisurely game of croquet was played where I learned that Massimo was ruthlessly competitive. Afterwards, a dip in their Olympic sized pool seemed like the thing to do. It was. Both in its refreshing and stimulating benefits. Giddy with our own cleverness, we ordered a bottle of bubbly following our swim, toasted to our amazing luck and then shamelessly sipped our champagne while reclining on a pair of lounge chairs with views across the lagoon. We nearly made it through the entire bottle when our amazing luck finally ran out. Fortunately we avoided a face to face embarrassment by giving the conceirge the number of a room we actually saw when we first arrived, but it meant that we had to sneak away before we finished the rest of the bottle.

Looking back, I marvel at the free spirit of my youth when life was full of possibilities. An easy thing to feel when you’re twenty-five years old. Had I imagined at the time that I would store that memory away and pull it out when no one is feeling like a free spirit these days, I'm not sure I would've comprehended the perspective. But when you're young, you don't think about pandemics, the fragility of life, or what an older you might wistfully reminisce about, and why.

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Denouement in Venice ~ June 1998

Rob and I spent our last days in Italy at the Hotel Seguso. A small but charming hotel with balconies overlooking a quiet canal, and a price tag that wouldn't kill us; it was a rare find in Venice. The meals were included and the food was lovingly prepared by Mimmo, a young cook who enjoyed wearing Hawaiian shirts in the kitchen and swearing in English. The dining room was run by Signora Bruni, a tall angular woman with a permanent scowl fixed to her face, she treated us to the kind of hospitality usually reserved for plundering despots.

Venice in the mornings was my favorite time of day. The water glistened softly below, casting ribbons of light on the frescoed ceiling of the dining room where we sat gazing out the window towards the bell tower in San Marco. The sound of utentils on plates carried over the water so clearly, I could almost imagine what my neighbors from across the canal were eating for breakfast. Suddenly Signora Bruni burst through the kitchen doors and headed towards us at a menacing pace. Carrying a tray of hot milk and espresso, freshly baked rolls, and the creamiest butter I have ever eaten, she dispensed with the formalities of a greeting and simply banged the dishes down on the table before disappearing back into the kitchen without a word.

"Is it my imagination,” I wondered aloud. “Or has the velocity of her plate tossing actually increased since we've been here?"

“She's an old woman,” Rob said wearily. “And it's a difficult job running a dining room at any age."

I poured myself a cup of coffee and could feel the muscles clenching in my jaw. What had been the start of a promising day had curdled into resentment at the prospect of having to manage Rob’s tedious mood for the rest of the day.

"Hey, why don't we take a gondola ride tonight after dinner?” I suggested changing the subject.“It's our last night here, and I'm sure we could haggle a fair price".

No response.

"Rob?"

"Why don't we wait and see how we feel?” he said impatiently. “We've got a lot of things we want to see today".

There was a time when Rob and I enjoyed playing together. Early in our relationship, he once asked me to come to Paris for the weekend while he was there on business.

"Isn't that a little extravagant just for the weekend?"

"It wouldn't be if I traded in my first class ticket. Besides, I need you here, baby".

I went to Paris with the expectation of showing Rob my favorite pieces of artwork, but when I arrived, we barely left the room. And when we did it was to replenish ourselves at a little café near our hotel. Freshly showered and wearing smiles on our faces that wouldn’t go away, we sat at a candlelit table in the corner of the room trying not to notice the discreet but knowing glances from the other diners nearby. Softly nuzzling my cheek and reaching for my hand under the table, Rob whispered, “You're glowing.” Afterwards we would take cool walks along the Seine and then back to the hotel, where we would fall into bed full of wine and laughter. Now six years later, we hadn’t even bothered moving the beds together when we arrived in Venice.

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“Italy is a dream that keeps returning for the rest of your life.” – Anna Akhmatova
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Essere Italiani

Considering the only language the five of us had in common was a smattering of Italian, the trip we took to Milan in the spring of 1986 went surprisingly well. Collectively, we came from Belgium, Switzerland, Poland, the Czech Republic, and the U.S., and were all living in Italy for the summer to study Italian Art and Language. In any other circumstance, an unlikely group of fellow travelers. With our rudimentary Italian and guidebooks in five different languages, we used more of a fly by the seat of our pants approach to travel, arriving in Milan with no place to stay. Through sheer luck, and the eavesdropping skills of our Swiss classmate, we managed to find an affordable pensione near the fashion district of Milan.

Unlike a lot of the other pensiones I had seen in Italy, this one showed signs of having been decorated in the last decade with modern furnishings and artwork. This youthful feel extended to the communal sitting room where the guests gathered in the evening before going out to explore Milan's active nightlife. But it wasn't until the second day when we noticed something else different about our accommodations. It's clientele. Young American men and women in their early twenties who all seemed to know each other, were very thin, very tall, and very good looking. A realization the five of us communicated to each over lunch the following day with our respective French, Polish, German, Czechoslovakian and English to Italian dictionaries.

Returning to our pensione that evening, our curious and very blunt Czech classmate went up to the front desk and asked why all the guests were so tall and beautiful. Turns out, Pensione Corrente was a place where newly arrived fashion models stayed while establishing their work creds in Milan. Speaking no Italian and living together in one place, these young models became close friends and tended to keep to their own. Although it was a running joke among the five of us that we weren't sufficiently tall enough or beautiful enough to talk to them, by the second evening I saw an opening into one of their conversations when the topic of an Italian pop singer who was touring in Italy came up.

Let me interject here by saying that Antonello Venditti was an Italian icon who had tapped into the energy that was Italian youth, which is ironic since even in the 1980's he was much older than most of his fans. So, when I got a sense they didn't seem to appreciate the six comp tickets they were holding in their hands, I asked them if they were willing to sell them. Thirty minutes later, I haggled the deal of the century, no mean feat with the international house of languages I had to wade through, and procured six tickets to Antonello’s show the following evening!

Want to get a glimpse of how Italians let loose and have fun? Go to a concert. The energy was bouncing off the walls. Everyone knew the songs, and everyone was singing them, their hands in the air, bouncing along. Even though we didn't know the songs, we just started singing and bouncing along with everyone else. Fantastico!

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For anyone who has studied abroad, they'll understand when I say that one of the first rites of passage in learning a new language is dreaming in that language. My first dream in Italian came a month after living in Italy. From the beginning of my stay in Florence, my olfactory senses recognized what I could only describe as a faintly earthy, smoky, and slightly sweet scent that filled the air near the Arno River, but my memory could not place where I had previously experienced it. In my dream, I was standing on the Ponte Vecchio in Florence taking in the sights and smells, when I turned around and asked someone where that familiar scent was coming from. Shaking their head and telling me they didn't know, I went up to another person who told me it was the lemon trees. But I knew that's not what I was smelling. What I was experiencing was bringing up a feeling so visceral, I secretly wondered if I had lived in Italy in another life. Years later when hiking with my Sister in the Santa Monica mountains where we used to picnic with my parents as children, the smell of Florence and the dream came back to me and the connection was finally made after all these years. It was the eucalyptus trees. So, while I was in Florence, I was connected to a little bit of home, and now that I'm home, I'll always be connected to a little bit of Florence.

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that the tour company cancelled.
Maybe 2021.
Seems my business perked up today. Appointments, new cases, a few calls from jail inmates. There just might be enough income in that to pay overhead. I have taken a financial beating the last 6 weeks. Others have had it much worse than I, so no complaints, just concerns.
The concierge at my hotel in Venice always came around his desk to give me a hug, and he made sure room service brought up my beer with all due speed.
Good times.
Murano glass jewelry.
It is easier to look back than ahead.
Stay well, chica.

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@on the cusp

But I can't help worrying about Italy and the people there. The travel industry is a huge revenue source. So, yeah. Much easier to look back right now than ahead.

Any little bit of good news is welcome, so I'm glad to hear your business perked up.

An Italian concierge who likes to give out hugs. Gotta love the Italians. And I do!

Thanks for stopping by Smile

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz
one of the Venetian canals?

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I did not see that picture. Seems very odd. I don't usually associate jellyfish with Venice. Squid ink, maybe, but not jellyfish.

Btw, if you ever happen to be in Venice on a romantic vacation with someone, avoid eating the squid ink pasta. It's not a good look.

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@Anja Geitz
Venice, which was why someone thought it was worth photographing and sending out into the world. Presumably, it's a result of the canals being devoid of significant boat traffic, rendering them jellyfish-friendly. Or something.

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@UntimelyRippd

One of the benefits of no traffic on the canals is that the water flow is completely clear. In fact, they even spotted dolphins and swans swimming up the canals..

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.standard.co.uk/news/world/dolphins-veni...

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Beautiful OT today - I so love your writing - you put me in those places. Nice to dream.

Hope all is well with you. Our outings seem to come in spurts. I had to go to my office last Friday and we took a drive to the mountains on Saturday to secure some pussy willows to bring back, root, and plant to create a layered thicket along our fence row.

Weather will be in the low 90's by Thursday, which I'm looking forward to. Our ground is just beginning to warm up enough to produce leaves on trees and bushes. I'm needing the spring green to surround me and give me hope that summer is on the way. Summer is my favorite season - perhaps because my birthday falls in summer and I always felt a sense of freedom on those dog days.

The new world is being created before our eyes. Drink it in.

Live in the present today and everyday. Live in love. Pleasantry

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@Raggedy Ann

around here it starts with the forsythia
then continues with the lilacs
followed by the pussy willows

maples are leafing out but
the tulips are still too shy
to open up

awaiting the return of the hummers...

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play on the guitar, 38 years ago. It evokes so many scenes from my youngsterhood.

[video:https://youtu.be/NWqK4ecpsn0]

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@UntimelyRippd

Did you sing along too?

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz
But I was also just learning to sing, so it was probably not great to listen to.

I had started learning under the tutelage of a college friend, mostly neil young songs (the jammy ones: Down By the River, Cowgirl in the Sand, Cortez the Killer, Like a Hurricane). I went down to the local library to hunt for music, and they had an excellent Gordon Lightfoot book, as well as a Dylan book. I didn't have a card so I had to copy down the chord progressions and lyrics into a notebook. I still know how to play two of them, Early Morning Rain and Did She Mention My Name (which, because reasons, resonated largely with me). Forgotten: Mountains and Marian; Pussywillows, Cattails; Steel Rail Blues; Marie Christine; maybe one or two others. From the Dylan I got Tambourine Man, I Want You, and Don't Think Twice.

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@UntimelyRippd

the last song I learned to play on the piano
Sounds of Silence

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@QMS

the quince are blossoming early this year

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@Raggedy Ann

Has been a challenge for me these days. More so when seeing life's possibilities seems much more difficult to sustain. I slip in and out of reminding myself how important it is to hold on to my goals and not succumb to the negative thinking. It's a work in progress. Easier to remind myself I'm safe right now, as are my friends and family. That'll have to be enough for now. Little wonder then, why indulging in fond memories of the past seems so appealing.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Glad you had such a wonderful trip into the imagination! The stories and pictures invoked some wonderful memories for me as well. My younger sister and I were going to take a trip...10 days in Kruger National Park in South Africa, 5 days in Venice and a period in Zurich and Slovenia visiting friends. Sadly, this all had to be canceled. Fortunately, most of the monies and air miles are back in my possession.

I recently printed some pictures from the travels DO and I took and am writing short vignettes to go with them. I had printed the fruit and veggie vendors at the Rialto market and one of the fish vendors. What great memories there from our trips to Venice.

Spring is in full bloom here in Central Texas and fortunately we have finished the oak tree pollen period and now having fairly weekly occurrences of rain which is always needed.

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This ain't no dress rehearsal!

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I look forward to reading them! I only hope you'll enjoy writing them as much as I did with my memories of Italy.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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Five ways things have changed that tell you the GDR is back:

1. When you go to the store you have to wait outside in a long line
2. When you finally get into the store you find empty shelves
3. The borders are closed again
4. You’re afraid to say what you really think
5. You have to worry about neighbors informing on you

#1 refers to distancing and limits on how many persons can be in a store at the same time
#2 refers to toilet paper etc. being sold out
#3 refers to the travel lockdown
#4 refers to fear of reprisal for expressing disbelief in official narratives — a widespread complaint even before corona (“political correctness”)
#5 refers to news reports of people who see others breaking lockdown rules reporting them to the police

Edited to add a significant word I had forgotten — “outside” — to #1

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@lotlizard

We'll have a lot stories coming from this pandemic, and some may even be funny. But I sure hope someone wiser than I will be able to adequately explain why people got so freaked out about toilet paper.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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@Anja Geitz

Get up, maybe grab a cuppa, head out, grab a bagel and cuppa or something, get to work, hit the head.
Optional -dump the kids at school where they spend the whole damn day.
Workie, workie, workie, grab a cuppa and maybe a croissant, maybe hit the head, workie, workie, workie
Finally, go out for lunch or bring something to desk, or jobsite, maybe hit the head, workie workie.
pick up kids?
Maybe dinner out, maybe take out, maybe order pizza.

5 days a week these people and their kids aren't home. They are generally usng the facilities at work, gym, restaurants, wherever, and the kids at school.

Suddenly the whole fam damily is home 24-7 for an indefinite period with maybe 3 rolls of tp that used to last them about a month. Uh, dear, we're gonna need more of this ....

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

Who don’t wipe their ass when they use the litter box, I was thinking more in terms of myself. And of all the things I worried about, TP wasn’t one of them. Mostly bc in a crisis, they are substitutes even if they are a bit, er, not pleasant. What I was more worried about not having was water if the water treatment plants shut down. I mean, there ain’t no way to get around not having water.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz
Many, many years ago, a group of "Great Lakes Governors" (and the Premier of Ontario) got together to discuss the likelihood that at some point in the future, pressure would start to increase to build aqueducts to carry water from the Great Lakes out to the high plains.

The governor of Wisconsin was quoted approximately thusly:

The only water leaving the great lakes through Wisconsin is going in beer cans.

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@lotlizard

the good ol' usa types are now conditioned to be corralled
eastern germans may have an issue with this
apparently usa types haven't understood history
well enough

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Lovely memories and dreams anja. Italy is on my bucket list. I've passed through and touched its borders, but not explored. Some day perhaps.

Spring is in full flush here, but it has remained cool. The early tomatoes look bad. Fortunately we still have plenty of seedlings in flats. We're replanting them today, and getting the pepper and eggplants in this weekend.

Made my run to town today for groceries and recycling. I've also been swinging by the ATM and pulling out the max to stash back some cash here at home.

Hope you are all doing well and feeling fit!

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Lots of citrus. Made my neighbors and I a grapefruit and vodka cocktail using the fresh grapefruits we have here in the garden, a splash of TJ's grapefruit soda and some fresh mint over ice. Very refreshing on a hot summer day. Oh, yeah. Summer is here in California. 90 degrees yesterday.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

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was never having visited florence..oh the art work!

and italian is the most beautiful and soulful language i've ever heard; it rolls off the tongue so easily and expressively.

one joy here this week: mr. wd reminded me anew of a not-young grocery store employee who stocks the frozen vegetable aisle. when they exchange greetings, she always chirps brightly thru her face mask:

'I'm livin' the dream!'

i'm stealin' that brilliant line forevermore! ; )

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Not sure if she was being sarcastic about that, but I like it either way.

If you like the way Italian rolls off the tongue, can you imagine all the romantic settings where that might come in handy? Language barriers be damned. When you're head over heels about someone who doesn't speak the language, you figure it out. And when it's all over, you have a marvelously entertaining vocabulary list in your notebook that conjures up all kinds of pleasant conversations. Smile

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

@Anja Geitz
A Little Romance, but if you haven't, put it at the top of your watch list.

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Just looked it up and put it on my list Smile

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Laurence Olivier nearing the end of his career, full of whimsy and charm; Diane Lane's first movie, playing a teenybopper in First Love; and Paris, Venice, and points between as backdrop.

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@wendy davis

and I'm glad I speak it a little. Even picked up a few words of Irpino dialect from some fairly intensive reading about immigration from southern Italy (mainly my cugino Mario Toglia's They Came By Ship).

I wonder how the little hill town of Calitri is doing in all this chaos. It's in the Mezzogiorno and up in the mountains, so possibly not as badly as the northern parts. One can hope anyway.

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I never rambled abroad in my younger days and then when my wife and I got together and finally were able to travel, we headed for South and Central America on birding trips, and later Africa on the theory that Europe had pavement and stairs and other things and would hence be available and accessible to us in our later years, whilst the rain forests, jungles and suchwhat where we were off birding might well be too strenuous.

As a result, we didn't get to Italy until I was 65, in 2011. Us, another couple and one single got an apartment just off of Campo di Fiori for a week, then a train to Florence and rented a car (2 actually) and stayed a week in a cottage outside one of the nearby hill towns to the west. We then parted ways and my wife and I went alone by train to Venice for 2 or 3 days in a pensione right on the main canal. It was wonderful, and your story brought it all back.

thanks again and welcome back

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

Oh, how I wish I do it all over again. The days are so gray now. With no end in sight. Sigh. I may go crazy. But I won't. Still, where's the stop button for all of this?

I have a few places in the future I'd like to go. Japan and the South of Germany, being at the top of my wish list. Followed by India, China, and Russia.

Something to dream about, eh?

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in Spring, and out to the coast and, ah yes, Sonoma. Queso y vino, what else is there in life.

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@enhydra lutris
where "Wine and Cheese" parties were a ubiquitous form of social gathering.

However, one of the student organizations at that university was The Rabelaisian Society (motto: "Si vous buvez, vous mourrez. Si vous ne buvez pas, vous mourrez. Alors, buvez!"), which instead held "Wine and Wine, who Needs Cheese?" parties.

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@enhydra lutris

I told my friends that when this is over, we are going out and killing a few bottles of champagne. Cheese may be involved. Although if we can our hands on some good caviar, that is much better with the bubbly.

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Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.

Assuming it did, it is the best version ever.

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Caruso was the first ever to sing the role of "Dick Johnson" publicly (first performance at the Metropolitan Opera in New York on 10 December 1910), and it may have been composed with him in mind. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_fanciulla_del_West

Caruso was unique in having a voice that was very clear, very loud and very sweet - many later tenors have matched or even exceeded up to two out of those three characteristics, but none have matched all three.

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@TheOtherMaven tenors. He sang it like a damn cowboy, straightforward, forcefully, masculine.
Modern tenors make it a crying, begging, pleading thing.
I think Puccini did write it with him in mind. Bet there are some composer notes.
Caruso was better than everybody before or after.
We are so lucky to have some recordings.

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