We are all deplorables now
Joe Rogan came out for Bernie Sanders and liberals threw a fit because of it.
“I think I'll probably vote for Bernie... He’s been insanely consistent his entire life. He’s basically been saying the same thing, been for the same thing his whole life. And that in and of itself is a very powerful structure to operate from.” -Joe Rogan pic.twitter.com/fuQP0KwGGI
— Bernie Sanders (@BernieSanders) January 23, 2020
The campaign's decision to cut a video of Rogan's endorsement and use it divided Sanders supporters.
"I really like Bernie and am disappointed to see the campaign boost Rogan, who has made some very anti-trans comments. I really hope the campaign reconsiders," wrote activist Alexis Goldestein on Twitter, responding to the video posted by Sanders.
The cartoonist Eli Valley tweeted: "Seconded: Rogan can vote for whomever he wants but I don't think the Bernie campaign should be touting a transphobic creep who gives a platform to Nazis."
Joe Rogan today, Richard Spencer tomorrow? David Duke?
If we’re for throwing minorities under the bus to win over the white working class is that the next step?
We’ve said for years the anti-identity politics, class over race argument would lead to this.
— Marcus H. Johnson (@marcushjohnson) January 24, 2020
Personally I would question whether these people were actual "Sanders supporters".
But I think the best response to all of these outraged liberals would be this one.
I’m black and trans and a woman. Don’t like Joe Rogan. But I’m also not stupid, and I understand that he is gonna exist whether I like him or not. I’d rather have his dumb fans with us than against us.
Now, can all the cishet white neolibs stop pretending to care what I feel?
— malin (@malinasundeity) January 24, 2020
The amusing part is that it wasn't just liberals that had a meltdown yesterday over Rogan's endorsement. Parts of the right-wing did too.
Recall that Hillary already denounced, not just Bernie, but all of his supporters as well. Now Bernie's supporters will include some Rogan fans, making us all that much more deplorable.
“It is not only him. It’s the culture around him. It’s his leadership team. It’s his prominent supporters. It’s his online Bernie Bros and their relentless attacks on lots of his competitors, particularly the women,” said Clinton. “It should be worrisome that he has permitted this culture — not only permitted (he) seems to be very much supporting it.”From her own words, Clinton regards Sanders as a nasty man running a misogynistic campaign and a political phony whose achievements are nonexistent and who lacks the temperament to be president.
As Clinton describes Sanders, he seems to fit nicely into her Trumpian “basket of deplorables.”
Wealthy liberals hate us. Wealthy conservatives hate us.
Wealthy liberals think we are socially backwards.
Wealthy conservatives think we are stupid.
Neither group cares one lick about our concerns and well-being.
That's how you know we are backing the right candidate.
Comments
I've always thought I
am somewhat deplorable. Aren't we all, though?
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
It's official now
All that's left is for Trump and Sanders supporters to argue about who is more deplorable.
That's where the real fun
will begin!
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
Meanwhile on DKos rec'd list
Wrong from the word go. FDR was radical, not pragmatic.
What will these people do if Bernie wins the nomination?
They'll be lost. Their world will collapse.
FDR
Not quite. FDR was radical and pragmatic, which was the key to his success. This said talent was the key to both ending the Great Depression and winning World War II. This talent was known to have driven Adolf Hitler nuts, as he had no vestige of it.
Just like Hitler's (and Mussolini's and Tojo's) did because of FDR.
(Good evening, Counselor Godwin!)
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Typical
The diarist got away with saying lots of things that would have gotten her banned if they were said about Hillary and maybe with the rules back before the 'Great Purge' that many refuse to admit happen.
Today there is a rebuttal diary and boy did the finger waggers come out and say tsshh tsshh! As always it's the effing hypocrisy.
Anyone see my first DCOTN? Dummbest comment of the night.
I have problems with people calling Bernie, Bernie because it seems like people are on a first name basis with him. And yes I had a problem with people who called Hillary, Hillary even thought that was the name she was running on. SMDH
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
The new centrists are the old republicans
You damn dividers!
Not paying attention to what is happening to millions of people in this country. You know the ones who can't find $400 for an emergency? Can't find jobs that pay a living wage. Can't find an affordable apartment even though some are working more than 2 jobs. THe millions of people who can't get health insurance and many of the problems that have come about since the democrats moved into the space republicans held when the went insane.
Forging relationships with corporations .... there's a word for that right?
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
You are our cutest deplorable
Keep up the good work.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Thanks, snoop ~
"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11
"Class over race argument"?
There is no politics outside of class struggle.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
At the very least
the ruling class uses race to divide and distract the working class from the reality of class struggle.
Meanwhile the "liberal" Democrat types...
...cannot say enough how they support brave icons like Ellen DeGeneres and Michelle Obama for declaring their kinship with George Bush.
Stop letting them be "liberal"
They're nothing of the sort.
They're actively opposed to freedom, dignity, the rights of the individual, the friggin' Enlightenment, you name it.
Yes, gjohnsit, you and I have courteously sparred over this before; all I will say is that there is still no such thing as a car insurance company called "Liberal".
That's how you know I am backing the right definition.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Adding this to the conversation.
"The bullying by woke aristocrats"
That is my vote for the top comment for the day
it's interesting how "woke" is now a pejorative
Saagar Enjeti uses it that way, too. It's the new "PC" but I think it expresses it better. The idea of political correctness shouldn't be limited to one side or the other. There are millions of Republicans who are "politically correct" in that they are scared to go against the social aspects of their party line. I expected, once Bush Jr. was in, that PC would apply to them but that didn't happen. It continued to be used against Dems and related hangers-on. So in that way "PC" is a misnomer.
But this "woke" thing is much more direct. You can say a lot by saying that one word with a sneer.
It's a past-tense verb
Anybody who uses it as an adjective deserves to be sneered at.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
I'm still asleep
on this woke thing.
But on the PC comment, you're right. The Right has been more successful using it as a sword against the Left. Meanwhile, the lazy Left, typically a day late and a dollar short, has usually missed the opportunity to use it against the Right. The Unbearable Whiteness of the GOP for instance, their own unspoken PC test. Wielding the PC sword and shield to defend and cover themselves when enabling/promoting more white folks to power.
PCness by the Right in the speech category -- the way they insist that Ds are unpatriotic for pointing out flaws in This Great Country of Ours or for noting that the Pentagon budget is obscenely high. That would be both unpatriotic and undermining of our National Security.
Can't have any of that -- and Dems politely oblige with their silence. Dems are very good at cowering beneath the covers.
I don't want to go there with the accusations of racism
but when it comes to any criticism of U.S. history or foreign policy or any suggestion that we aren't the good guys, OH HELL YEA!
Conservatives are waaayyy more PC.
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Resisting Wokeness: Andrew Doyle, Douglas Murray in conversation
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIJPUX6SYu4]
Users of twitter aren't buying the faux indignation.
This seems to be true.
The Gravel Institute gets it. LOL
Oh, Mike, you do flatter yourself
On the Internet, nobody knows you're an aging Senator and national hero...nobody.
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Looks like some
trigger-happy folks in the LGBTQ community are a little too invested in the politics of purity. If anti-trans was a driving force in Rogan's politics, the way race is for David Duke, why would he then not check to see whether Bernie also shares those views? Could it be, is it possible, that Rogan's comments were more about entertaining his (probably) mostly male listeners, a little locker-room macho bravado?
Whatever the extent of sincerity of his actual views, he's a potential convert to that cause and some in that group ought to be more welcoming. With Bernie, with an assist from Rogan, in power, LGBTQ rights are bound to be strengthened, and so it's a win-win for that small trans segment of the country.
Meantime, I hope this backlash from a few doesn't lead to another Bernie Apology. There's probably a quota on apologies in a campaign, and he shouldn't easily give up another so soon with 10 more months to go.
This sums it up quite nicely.
I like the logic here.
Neera can't shut up
This is the 5th tweet I've seen from her on this
Stuff it Neenah! This from the person who supported the one who said Henry f'cking Kissinger was her best friend!
Haha!
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
That doesn't even make sense
Neera's brain is broken.
So Neera is saying that she doesn't want a candidate that can get Republican support/votes?
I bet $100 I can find quotes from her saying the opposite when Hillary was running.
These people are exhausting-Whew
EVERYTHING you say, they counter with "what about..."? Shows they really have nothing to say, and believe that during the Sanders administration their pea-headed opinions will be irrelevant. We will all be too busy trying to clean up the mess neo-liberalism has unleashed on us. Are they afraid no-one will want to hear their opinions? Ha-ha...now its time to see how they like being ignored.
Well done is better than well said-Ben Franklin
Good choice of videos
But keep an eye on the pet rabbit.
Purity tests bad...
whataboutism good.
Lol
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
Dear Neera,
when Democrats work together with moderates and the GOP against our interests, that is stabbing progressives in the back. And frankly, that’s the only time they do work together. The only people calling that a “purity test” are the ones who can’t pass it.
Idolizing a politician is like believing the stripper really likes you.
BWAHaHaHa Over 11,000,000 views
That is a lot of potential voters.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2O-iLk1G_ng]
And it didn't cost even a penny.
I am OK with this.
@humphrey Masterful strong
Masterful strong statement by Team Bernie.
Throwing in the phrase "Big Tent" shoves that old line right back in the faces of his foes.
NYCVG
'Rising' sez this is just stupid
I could be wrong
I never watched The Dukes Of Hazzard, but I always thought of it as being a silly lighthearted comedy about mocking and defying authority while capitalizing on some gratuitous but unthreatening skin. In a similar but more serious vein Hawkeye Pierce's womanizing (a holdover from the original novels, which were very right wing) I saw as a survival mechanism against the anti life of the Korean war, not the show's misogyny. Rogan's comment may be in poor taste, it may even be offensive - especially to someone who has very good reason to be touchy - but it is hardly worthy of total condemnation.
On to Biden since 1973
Tulsi should add Sellers to the list
of people she is suing.
This guy is all over Twitter today about the Rogan endorsement. He should have never been invited back on any show.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Dave Doel say the coming reaction yesterday.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFzovy5lPhc]
The Onion gets it.
Ya think!
They are very concerned at what is happening!
This Rogan thing has interested me
I know next to nothing about Rogan other than the Yang interview which I watched. Rogan seemed like a good interviewer. I know some prominent gun rights folks were on his show but I'm not into gun rights as a thing, though a strong supporter of 2A, so I never watched.
Now I find it taps into this larger thing I've been interested in which is the woke/blue collar split within the D party. I've been noticing that Sanders often speaks of working people in America or phrases to that extent. Again, and again, and again. I don't think it's because Bernie is at a loss for words, I think he wants to push that message, and as a blue collar worker I'm glad. I think the woke/broke divide much larger than R and D, and I think Trump syphoned off tens of millions of voters that in the 50s would have been Dems.
I'm not sure he'll win the primary, but he has always looked to be the strongest in the field, all the others have serious flaws that could easily cause them to lose. I just can't imagine any of the others that are in the top 4 being taken seriously by the electorate. I sure do wish the guy good health.
worth sharing.
From the ripest name in journalism:
https://politics.theonion.com/liberals-say-sanders-s-acceptance-of-rogan...
In the Land of the Blind, the One-Eyed Man is declared mentally ill for describing colors.
Yes Virginia, there is a Global Banking Conspiracy!
Whoever wrote that Onion piece is brilliant!
Glad they are standing with Bernie and everyone here.
LOL, oh how true that Onion piece is
More and more, that Onion speaks current reality...satire is dead, long live satire.
Incompetent cowards
So all of these Very Serious People who want us to permit them to run the fn world under the tutelage of such austere figures as Kissinger are melting down because one of the jesters -- one of the dirtbag jesters, too, not even a court jester -- has said he will cast his single vote for Sanders? I mean, I know it's conceit and greed and various disorders of character but honestly on days like this it does start to look like a particularly virulent kind of invasive alien brain worms. I suppose this weekend's todo list includes them trying to ruin Rogan's jesterhood career. Anyone want a little side action bet on the % increase that winds up adding to his AGI?
I like Joe Rogan.
I maybe first watched him when he interviewed Bernie. He is an excellent interviewer. Since then a great Dr. Cornel West interview, Elon Musk, clips of Yang and Tulsi, Jimmy Dore, Kyle Kulinski, and many folks I have never heard of.
I didn't know who he was until about 6 months ago, so I have not heard anything offensive. Well, he did question Greta receiving the Time person of the year being so young. I wrote in the comments - "Interview Greta!"
I like him. Glad he likes Bernie.
Marilyn
"Make dirt, not war." eyo
Only the "never Bernie" crowd is aghast about Joe Rogan.