@leveymg @leveymg  
right after Rudolf Hess passed on.

Seeing the authorities’ haste to raze Spandau, I’m amazed they didn’t go all the way and immediately have the rubble either buried on the German equivalent of Staten Island or shipped off to China.

You always have to wonder, why was it so important that Hess be barred from all communication with the outside world all those years?

You always have to ask, what is it this time?

What was it, what is it exactly that is so important to the authorities that the general public never find out?

and both of them can serve out their sentences together in Hess' drafty, old cell.

@Roy Blakeley power, financial, whatever and that’s what he’ll do. You’re right. He could do a lot. But that fact could be more valuable to him as a bargaining chip than anything.Of course, blowback for the Republicans could see him fragged by his own party if it came down to it.

Ultimately I’m not getting my hopes up but who knows.

This is getting serious. Imagine what information Trump could release. Certainly enough to put Brennan and Mueller in jail for a long time (for lying to Congress, spying on the Senate intelligence committee, faking evidence in the PanAm 103 investigation, etc.), but it goes way beyond that. He could expose the criminal working of the deep state, pull back the curtain and show us the psychopaths that are running the country. The US has been a murderous imperial power for many decades. Think of the number of lies that could be exposed, the number of CIA thugs that would be in jail. Ronnie Raygun would be exposed to all the world as a lying asshole. The entire US narrative of what we stand for would be exposed as lies. It will never get that far, of course. Trump would be assassinated first, and he doesn't really want to expose historic US imperialism. More likely, there will be some kind of truce, but Trump is a loose canon with a lot of crude cunning. It will be very interesting to see how this plays out.

@Alligator Ed  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fruit_of_the_poisonous_tree

But in a world and an age where the “torture-is-legal twins” Jay Bybee and John Yoo end up with a federal judgeship and a prestigious law school post respectively, I’m sure the legal profession has revised the doctrine to allow mass grafting of said tree.

(Beholds the Deep State’s legal palm-oil plantation, orchard upon orchard, row upon row, tree upon tree, bough upon bough, each heavy with noxious toxic fruit, as far as the eye can see.)

At 12:45PM, I will be joined by @Jim_Jordan @RepMarkMeadows @RepMattGaetz & others to call on @realDonaldTrump to declassify & release the Page FISA apps, Ohr’s 302s & more. The FISA court was misled & the process abused to spy on Americans. We have ZERO tolerance for any of it!

— Lee Zeldin (@RepLeeZeldin) September 6, 2018

Caca de Vaca! The FISA court didn't even hold a hearing on any of the FISA vs Page warrants. It's little enough that the application for same (and subsequent renewals) were misleading, the "process" (smoke and mirrors) was even more vacuous. The Müller circus is built upon ether. Nothing there folks. Not even "collusion" is a crime. But the basis for the entire proceedings is invalid and the whole deal should be susceptible to motion to dismiss on the basis of insufficient basis to proceed. That basis was 4 improper FISA warrants, none of which demonstrated judicial input as well as the seriously flawed requests.

It would seem that a good lawyer should be able to appeal the Witch Hunt out of existence in a Federal court. Could any of our legal experts please advise on this matter?

@The Aspie Corner

You're just seeing it in action for the first time. You think Trump is standing in your way?

Defeat or victory. There is nothing to celebrate.
Nothing to get excited about.
None of these outcomes will affect your life one way or the other.
We've been out of the game for half a century.

No matter who wins this shit, we lose. We will still not be represented in ANY WAY.

@chuckutzman
Have to admit, I got a little stoned about 15 minutes in, and then there was my cat, but at about 41:00 minutes or so, they say there was going to be a website we could all go to and see a trove of info, on "Friday". The video, about the video, is dated 9/4; subject video dated 9/3. Friday was yesterday.

Did I miss the link to the site?

folks in the Intelligence community are about to spill the beans (that's not a pun)on the HRC/Obama cabal. Former Intelligence Community Officials speak out about Spygate
https://youtu.be/TwGtIlYilhY

@leveymg

Charles Higham's book on the U.S. corporations allowed by presidential license to arm Germany for the duration of WWII, expands on the British relationship to fascism. Excerpts from the book can be read here:

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Fascism/Trading_Enemy_excerpts.html

@lotilizard
it under a new runway at an American military airport. Appropriate. Powdered bricks tell no tales about whom it was Hess expected to be meeting in Scotland in May, 1941, and you know what - it worked. Who even asks anymore or even remembers the Cliveden Set? Sure, it has a Wiki, but did you ever hear of the Milner Group? Google "Quigley's roster of the Milner Group" (per, Graeme Donald, Lies, Damn Lies and History, Google Books)

The alliance of wealthy British and Americans with Nazis and Fascists in the 1930s dwarfs so-called collusion with Russia. Goes to prove that such things are soon forgiven and smoothed over when there's enough money and dynastic titles to be protected.

Throughout 1936, several members, including Dawson, Lord Astor, and Jones, traveled to Germany to meet with Hitler, Ribbentrop, Hermann Goring, and Werner von Blomberg. Ribbentrop, while in London on 2 June, lunched with Jones and further discussed arrangements for a Hitler — Baldwin meeting, concluding that Hitler could meet Baldwin (who was afraid of flying), two to three miles off the English coast. Jones then asked Ribbentrop to go with him that evening to the Astors for dinner, so that “he would meet a Cabinet Minister in the shape of Inskip, now Minister for the Co-ordination of Defence, as well as Lothian and the Astors.”67

How convenient! It seems that the Mimer Group believed that they could influence another
member of the Cabinet, which was exactly what happened. According to Jones, Inskip was
“impressed” with Ribbentrop. Ribbentrop had informed Inskip that Germany was receiving
secret advances from some of the smaller powers in Europe, and stressed “the importance of a collaborating England and Germany forming a new centre of crystallization.”68 After Inskip had gone to bed, Lothian, Jones, and Ribbentrop talked further. Jones wrote that Lothian “impressed [the Milner Group aimss upon von Ribbentrop that in any agreement with us it must be made plain that it contemplated the peaceful revision of the treaties as they affected Austria, Memel, and the rest. We must not get into a position of a breach of faith should Austria fall to Germany.”69 Thus, Lothian and Jones were conspiring with the Nazis to revise the Treaty of Versailles, further indicating their sympathy with German desires as long as changes were made peacefully.

Then in September 1936, Dawson, Jones, and David Lloyd George met with Ribbentrop,
Hitler, and Rudolf Hess in a series of meetings where they reiterated their desire for peace with Germany. While the Milner Group was busy giving Hitler the false impression that England was ready to make an alliance with Germany, they also were attempting to further influence their own government to this policy.

The Milner Group conspiracy thickens when you consider the role of several government
officials who were either part of the group or loosely affiliated with it. This includes Halifax, Sir John Simon (through All Souls), Sir Samuel Hoare, Inskip, and Chamberlain who were all active among the group, and present for many meetings.7° The Milner Group’s constant interaction with these Cabinet members at Cliveden, and elsewhere, allowed them to be influential. Michael Astor, the youngest son of Waldorf, wrote that “the danger of Philip Lothian’ s position was that although he had no actual responsibility for government policy, he had the ear of men who wielded power.”7’ And this could be said for most of the group, particularly Dawson, Jones, and the Astors. “It goes without saying that the whole inner core of the group, and their chief publications, such as The Times and The Round Table, approved the policy of appeasement completely and prodded it along with calculated indiscretions when it was felt necessary to do so.” 2 Thus, it can be argued that, because of their influence, Hitler was assured that he could rearm and reoccupy the Rhineland without British resistance, while members of the British Cabinet made sure an alliance against Germany was impossible.73 Even after the Rhineland incident, they were able to prevent action against Germany, by convincing even anti-appeasers that Hitler’s intentions were peaceful. On 9 March 1936 the Cabinet concluded that no action was necessary. Anthony Eden’s statement, which he later read in the House of Commons, was discussed and approved in the Cabinet. It read:

there is, I am thankful to say, no reason to suppose that the present German action
implies a threat of hostilities; the German Government speak in their
memorandum of their “unchangeable longing for a real pacification of Europe”
and express their willingness to conclude a non-aggression pact with France and
Belgium.74

Thus, the conspiracy was complete.

John Taylor, A Reevaluation of Cockburn's Cliveden Set (1999)
https://history.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/EPF/1999_John%20Taylor-ilov....

@leveymg It is powerful reminder that nothing has really changed. The names of the Bankers and the Banks, their notable intrusion into government (especially the Dulles boys and Harrimans-Bush-Prescott et. al.) shows the filth and corruption on all sides of "the Good War". Especially notable is the Harriman's supporting three sides in the coming, and continuing, struggle: US banksters, Nazi Germany, and Stalin. Anything for a buck.

It is no wonder that Operation Paperclip and Operation Gladio were instituted so effortlessly. Those involved on the "Allied" side did not swear an oath to Der Führer, but continued an unwavering love of money--not only love of money, but lust for money, sheer greed for money. Here is obviously an outcropping of money over people schemes, now vividly exposed, at least for me.

The embrace of Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy by so many powerful bankers and manufacturers on both sides of the Atlantic, and their general hostility to Russia, really comes down to individual calculations of profits from trade balances and profits from war. It's interesting that those identified -- the DuPonts, Remington arms, Morgan Bank -- by the "Merchants of Death" hearings line up in a smooth, continuous line with the backers of both the Banker's Plot (1933) and the various mechanizations by the Dulles Bros. at Sullivan & Cromwell and the Cliveden Set/Milner Group to fund the Nazi Party and the German Steele Trust. Always helps to go back to primary and contemporaneous sources, See, e.g., H.C. Engelbrecht, Merchants of Death (1934), available free at: https://mises.org/library/merchants-death; https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/McCormack%E2%80%93Dickstein_Committee#Page_1 (1934); and, George Seldes, Facts and Fascism (1943), first chapters at: http://www.maebrussell.com/Articles%20and%20Notes/Facts%20and%20Fascism.....

This wealthy, Far Right cabal calculated that they would maximize profits by manipulating all sides, funding the most extreme political factions, rearming Germany, and by the subsequent war. Meanwhile, some of the more far-sighted and truly internationalist of this group -- Harriman Brown Bros. and the Bushes -- simultaneously traded with Stalin by developing the Baku oil fields as a partnership between Standard Oil an the Soviet State oil company, while also forging the partnership with the German petrochemical giant, IG Farbin.

That company, using western capital, developed the nerve agent Sarin and invented the poison gas Zyklon B. This Anglo-American funded partnership also developed synthetic oil and Rubber complexes in Silesia on coal-rich land on the contested German-Polish border owned by the Harriman 40 company managed by Prescott Bush and George Herbert Walker, on which was built the synthetic oil and rubber plants and slave labor system that fed it at the lowest possible labor cost at Auschwitz.

After the war, all this was overlooked and those who had profited most went on to take over the political leadership and intelligence agencies of the United States and Great Britain.

That cabal is the true origin of what we now call the Deep State. That is my enemy, and now that I realize it is still very much in charge, I make no excuses for proclaiming myself its enemy.