Poll: Democratic Party is about as popular as toe jam
Since losing against the most unpopular Republican candidate since, well, forever, the Democrats have had two political messages, 1) ScaryRussia, and 2) Trump Yuck!
If they thought this was going to win over the American public, they might want to rethink that.
views of the Democratic Party are about as low or lower than they were at any point during the run-up to the 2016 election...
Overall, 53% of Democratic leaners hold a favorable view of the party, down from 73% who said this in January 2017. The current ratings of the party among Democratic leaners are as low as they have been at any point in Pew Research Center surveys conducted over the past two decades.
This poll is not an outlier.
Two other recent polls, CNN/SSRS and Quinnipiac, showed roughly the same thing.
Favorable views of the Democratic Party have dropped to their lowest mark in more than a quarter century of polling, according to new numbers from a CNN poll conducted by SSRS.
Only 37% of Americans have a favorable opinion of Democrats, down from 44% in March of this year. A majority, 54%, have an unfavorable view, matching their highest mark in polls from CNN and SSRS, CNN/ORC and CNN/USA Today/Gallup stretching back to 1992.
What do you suppose could cause this potentially disastrous trend to happen?
I know some would immediately blame the shift to the left on issues such as Medicare-For-All, caused by the Berniecrat wing.
Except that Medicare-For-All has been getting increasingly more popular, as is currently far more popular than the Democratic party.
So what could be causing this?
Could it be because the Democratic leadership hates it's base?
This could well be the year the Democrats take control of the House for the first time since 2010. Of the 90 seats the party is targeting for November, just 24 need to turn blue, a prospect made all the more exciting by the Bernie Sanders-inspired deluge of progressive candidates around the country. But the DCCC is emerging as that movement’s counterweight, if not downright enemy.
Today's revelation from Colorado is just the latest example of the DCCC endorsing business-friendly centrists, usually with a losing track record, over progressives.
Elissa Slotkin in Michigan’s 8th District, Angie Craig in Minnesota’s 2nd District, Brad Ashford in Nebraska’s 2nd District, Elaine Luria in Virginia’s 2nd, to just name a few examples of former Republicans being endorsed by the DCCC over progressive candidates.
In New York’s 24th congressional district the DCCC created a primary challenger to the previously unopposed progressive candidate.
In Texas’s 7th District they publicly smeared the progressive candidate.
And just in case there was any doubt about the Democrats detesting progressives, Nancy Pelosi came out and publicly endorsed the practice.
“In terms of candidates and campaigns I don’t see anything inappropriate in what Mr. Hoyer was engaged in — a conversation about the realities of life in the race as to who can make the general election.”
Except that Pelosi is full of sh*t. In 2016, the DCCC's preferred candidates lost 23 districts that Hillary Clinton won.
After the Intercept’s story ran, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee emailed its donors to raise money for Tillemann.
“Please donate $3 to 3 progressives the DCCC is trying to defeat in upcoming primaries by putting their finger on the scale for corporate Democrats,” the email read.
The National Republican Congressional Committee, the DCCC’s counterpoint, has gleefully sent each example of activist/DCCC strife to reporters.
You don't supposed that Democratic leaning voters might not look favorably on the practice of the Democratic Party stabbing their own progressive base in the back, do you?
The Democratic Party shills think not. It seems increasingly obvious that the reason the Dems didn't do an autopsy over the past decade of electoral failure is because they knew exactly what they would find, and it would mean getting fired.
The only things saving the Dems right now is a progressive base that won't give up (for a change), and a Republican Party that most everyone hates.
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and there are targets for dems
the last link in the post links an article from commondreams about Jonathan Alder's desire to get the democrats to be less democratic. In other words, continue the establishment democratic agenda.
also on commondreams article is a republican budget proposal that attacks the social safety net
if the dems and DNC and DCCCC and other groups realized that issues are important, they could run this issue up the flag pole
and it might get the press on one tweed from Trump
and pound on it, and pound on it
and give up on trying to blame Russia and wikileaks for their loss (correction: I first wrote the word "stupidity" but corrected to loss. The word stupidity is an outsiders perspective, they are happy warriors spending money and going after phantoms while the country is dismantled.
With Tax Scam Complete, GOP Caucus Unveils Insane Budget Blueprint to Attack Safety Net Programs like Social Security and Medicare are gutted while tax cuts are made permanent in plan
I read that article not long
ago and had to just go off and cry a little. They are going to just take this country and world down, all the way down, and all the way down many in this country won't even see what is coming. I am enraged anew at my now dead Repuke parents, but that isn't the fucking answer either. It's lame but I really hate these fucking people. And not only the politicians but the people who see no problem with this type of shit. I did mention to my financial guy one day, during his happy talk about just hanging tight and staying in the market, all the fundamentals are OK, blah, blah, that giving tax breaks to the already wealthy who won't spend that money while cutting off those who do is sure a sound fundamental, eh? Silence, of course.
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
taxation without representation
"None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see."
-- Rev. Matthew Henry 1662 - 1714 source
Welcome to the state of progressives today: taxation without representation.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
A simple cure for one problem.But no easy solution for the other
A thorough washing of one's feet gets rid of the toe jam. I can't figure out what will cleanse the Democrats of the neoliberalism plague that has overtaken them. Getting rid of the "Dinos" might be a start.
A viable Labor Party.
"Out, damned spot! Out, I say!" -- Shakespeare, Macbeth, Act V, Scene 1
We need to abandon the Dims and organize into a viable Labor Party, which should then form a coalition with the Greens and the Socialists in order to represent what used to be the Democrats' base.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
They only toe jam I know of is football, as in...
John in NYC. In the days when he was crashing at the West Village pad of one of the many radicals he would come in contact with and eventually give even monetarily, morally and politically support to. From Bobby Seale and Huey Newtown, to Abbie Hoffman and Jerry Rubin. He could be seen leading anti-war marches and attending radical meetings/hosting radical leaders at his place.
John was a bad-ass who really committed himself to the struggle once he made NY his home. That is, until the FBI began harassing him and ultimately trying to get him deported. Fuck the FBI. They only have ever existed to crush Left Wing dissent.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Yeah, and Lennon stuck it out and defeated
Trick the Dick, Strom Thurmond and the other FRightwingers. He, himself, was always a little mystified that he ended up living here. He never held grudges against his own country. Disagreements, yep, but not grudges. John was the real deal politically. Yoko Ono was nothing more than a showoff. Rec'd!!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Disagree. I've come around on Yoko.
I used to think that too. But now I believe she was a force that not only inspired John but even emboldened him more and opened up further his already incredible imagination. She was an avant garde artist in her own right. Sort of like a Marina Ambrovic in spirit. I heard some tracks from a new album of hers a few years ago, and was astounded to hear that even at the age of 80 she sounded fresher than most new stuff coming out.
You know how they met. When John went to her exhibit in London, climbed the ladder of one of the installments and on the top was a magnifying glass to look at the very tiny print on the ceiling, that said simply, "yes."
After that it was Two Virgins, and Sometime in NYC, which included a host of outright radical songs, such as "Attica State" "Woman Is The Nigger Of the World" "John Sinclair" etc. I mean, she challenged him in ways that the renowned carouser hadn't ever conceived of. To more forcefully take stands and lend himself to causes. As an Asian woman subject to enormous racism herself John got to see up front and personal that side. His artistic and political instincts were sharpened. They were quite a force together.
I'll add finally that a friend of mine was in the OWS Arts & Media working group. He called me one day and said he had been in touch with Yoko's people and that she was sending over a special postcard to be put up at Zuccotti Park. Yeah, Yoko made special wish cards for OWS. And I offered to pick them. I drove my van down to a little print shop in Chinatown and literally loaded fresh boxes of the postcards into the back.
If anyone wants a couple of them I will happily send them out to you. At one time I had hundreds of these. I still have a few dozen, I think. Just message me. May take a bit for me to get to the post office. But for C99 I'd be happy to make one fell swoop and get some into the hands of folks here.
"If I should ever die, God forbid, let this be my epitaph:
THE ONLY PROOF HE NEEDED
FOR THE EXISTENCE OF GOD
WAS MUSIC"
- Kurt Vonnegut
Share the wealth ..... er.... art.
Perhaps you could scan one of these postcards and post the image here on c99? Love to see it.
The Democratic party's real constituents
are not the people, but their donors.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
And here's Caitlin Johnstone's take on that Fang revelation:
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/pelosi-i-dont-see-anything-inappropri...
I'm sure this revelation will make the Democratic Party even more popular with would-be voters.
As for you people out there that still think that you will someday succeed in taking over the Democratic Party and manning it with progressives, realize that WHAT Johnstone and Fang are discussing is exactly what you are up against.
Good luck with your strategy. And good luck too if you think Bernie Sanders is going to truly take any of these people on, much less "defeat" them.
Essentially identical story with ref to Laura Moser
running for Texas' 7th Congressional District
Link: https://www.texastribune.org/2018/02/22/rare-move-national-democrats-com...
Meanwhile Canova in Florida has registered as an Independent. Here, I just checked and found that in this state I don't have to designate what party I 'belong' to. So my heartfelt demexit of the last year is fine.
"a conversation about
the realities of life in the race as to who can make the general election” is bull$h!t, Pelozi.
It isn't about who can win the general. It's about which Dim party candidate you Insider Elite determine is acceptable to join the Insider Elite, and who is not. Simple as that. And progressives are not. We get it. Just don't expect any Berniecrats to play nice if elected.
the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
That's just plain mean.
What did toe jam ever do to you?
My bad
I should have said hemorrhoids and gonorrhea.
However, the Dems are still more popular than Paris Hilton.
hemorrhoids and gonorrhea
You didn't do that because today's Democratic "leaders" are hemorrhoids with gonorrhea: parasites who are also imperial pains in the ass!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I kind of had this thought about the DCCC's origins
The modern Democratic party is what I would imagine would be the offspring of a threesome involving Ebola, cancer and syphilis.
Including the resulting insanity...
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
Paging Dick Morris ...
... clean-up on lane foot!
That radical progressive, N. Pelosi,
recently extolled the billionaire troll, Pete Peterson (said Peterson having recently demised).
https://www.democraticleader.gov/newsroom/42518-3/
(See: vomit inducing)
Democrats are not your friends.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Pete Peterson is dead! And Pelosi praises him!
Ipecac in print, indeed!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
These things were known to
These things were known to people who decided to look into the situation with clear eyes.
The point though is that this only reconfirms the position that the Democratic Party must be destroyed.
You're not going to take it over. You can't.
So much time, money, and energy has gone into the black hole of taking over that vile organization.
Pelosi Doubles Down on what Hoyer Said to Tillemann
The minority party representative protects the donor class:
From Politico:
Moreover, she wondered if it were legal to record a private phone conversation. Well, Colorado law doesn't have any rules about consenting parties on a phone call when it comes to politics.
The same article reported that the Progressive Change Campaign Committee has raised some money for Tilleman as a result. All of these things were said about Bernie Sanders and how he couldn't possibly win any major state primaries nor the presidency. We all know how that turned out.
Ponies anyone? I'd like a pony: more inclusive primaries without interference from any corporate establishment types. The GOP got Trump as a result, but at least people got the opportunity to vote for that incompetent boob.
One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.--Tennyson
Her statement just goes to show that they are not even
trying to hide their contempt for us anymore. This is what my second sigline is about. The war on the American people has pretty much been won. The deregulation of environmental laws, the attacks on the poor, the coming attack on social security, Medicaid and Medicare have already been won even though the republicans haven't gutted them yet. The gloves are off and the only thing left for us to do is turn off the lights. It's obvious to the PTB that we're not going to fight for what's owed us. They have been doing one thing after another for decades now and we just took it.
Our civil liberties are gone since 9/11 and the issues that they hadn't gotten to yet are being lined up. Welcome to the banana republic.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Love it!
It's a grand sigline. Commonly known as stalemate that we can only wish and hope for.
Well done snoop.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
It's true, isn't it?
The government has been dumping on us for so long and we haven't done anything about it. Well, we have finally woken up to see that congress is not a legitimate ruling body because they are so corrupt. Not when they can so openly work against the American people and refuse to work for us instead of the elites.
Bernie got people to take the red pill and he exposed how bad things are for us by showing us what the DP really stands for. But it didn't just start with him. I saw the masks slipping off during the Obama administration. His refusal to hold the banks responsible for crashing the global economy, his screwing us with the deeply flawed ACA where even more power and profit were given to the insurance and pharmaceutical companies, his expansion of the war of terror and the legislation that he didn't even attempt to pass showed me that it was game over for us. But that didn't start with him either. He was just adding on to what Bush the lesser did who was just adding on to what the Clintons Bush 1, Reagan and the others who came before them.
How many petitions, phone calls and emails did we do to remind him to Do It?
Now Trump and the republicans are passing their dream wish lists. From the tax bill, more deregulation of the banks, their pushing work requirements on people who are already struggling to survive, Carson stating that poor people need to pay more for their section 8 crappy, shit hole dwellings to the other cabinet members deregulating every damn thing that they can.
I don't see how so many other people can continue taking the blue pill! The ones who are ecstatic that Trump is deregulating everything is just so mind boggling. Can't they see how those regulations keep us safe?
Many of us here have posted this video showing that it doesn't matter what we do, congress will never listen to us. And just a few weeks ago we were on the brink of WWIII and many people were upset that Trump didn't bomb the Russian military assets in Syria.. WT blue F is up with that?
[video:https://youtube.com/watch?v=5tu32CCA_Ig]
This is why it looks like it's game over for many of us. Congress really doesn't care how many of us are going to die if they get to do what their donors want them to. We are supposed to be in charge of our government. We're not and we haven't been for a very long time if we ever were. The next Depression is rumored to going to be much, much worse than the Great one. Will there even be soup lines for us then? It's also rumored that there won't be any.
Sorry for the Debbie Downer rant. But my situation is not going well.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Actually, you left out the role Occupy played in
. . . helping people wake up to certain realities.
This was a movement, by the way, that the Obama Administration played an active role in crushing.
But I'm sure the shills/bots/sock puppets/idiots at TOP probably just dismissed this reality as a "conspiracy theory." (BTW, the way that term is bandied about nowadays by pro-establishment types to discredit truth tellers, essentially amounts to the words, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.") Either that, or they just outright didn't care as they fixated on supposedly more important issues such as those involving identity politics, and what kinds of bathrooms transgenders could use, and lauded the Democratic Party elites for fighting so hard for such positions.
Toe Jam deservedly more
popular than Dems at this stage. It does more for us just by being in that Peaceniks song.
If you go visit the Dem Apparatchik watering holes online (or should i say "kool aide filled kettles"?) it's nothing but Trump Bad and -- (properly named) "factional," not "identity" -- politics, and Putin's Alumimum Tubes.
I surmise the rank and file experience profound dissonance: between having to deceive themselves for the sake of The Noble Mission That Justifies All Ills and the đeep but forbidden perception that they're actually being screwed by their own party.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Well, if this article is to be believed, there are more
and more rank and file Democrats and non-coastal elite Democrats that are getting fed up with losing strategies dreamed up by the DNC:
https://russia-insider.com/en/democratic-party-organizers-want-party-lea...
But when the party is completely subordinated to the agenda of pleasing its big money donors, then you end up with an organization that cannot even respond to realities of what it takes to win on the ground, and can only come up with bankrupt, ridiculous schemes in "opposing" the GOP.
The Democratic Party is already irrelevant. The only question I have is how long it will take for a critical mass of Americans to realize it such that there are not enough of them around to continue to support it by voting for it. How long will it be before lasting, large, and permanent majorities of the voting public write off the Democratic Party as any kind of hope for change or for anything good? How long before they wake up to the Dems' irrelevance?
Yes
and it seems the more we can get the demstablishment to talk about Progressives the more they expose themselves. As pessimistic as it seems now, what the T party accomplished was pretty remarkable, they were able to put their leadership up against the wall. I have hope that the Progressives can do the same.
All Democrats are equal,
but Rich Democrats are more equal than others.
Orwell: Where's the omelette?
Rich yahoos are more equal than anyone.
That's been going down since the Stone Age!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
And yet they keep voting for them anyway
People hate republicans too. I can’t help thinking of this:
I miss Douglas Adams.