Democrats go all-in on Russiagate konspiracy
The DNC threw all their konspiracy cards on the table today.
The Democratic National Committee filed a multimillion-dollar lawsuit Friday against the Russian government, the Trump campaign and the WikiLeaks organization alleging a far-reaching conspiracy to disrupt the 2016 campaign and tilt the election to Donald Trump.The complaint, filed in federal district court in Manhattan, alleges that top Trump campaign officials conspired with the Russian government and its military spy agency to hurt Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and help Trump by hacking the computer networks of the Democratic Party and disseminating stolen material found there.
“During the 2016 presidential campaign, Russia launched an all-out assault on our democracy, and it found a willing and active partner in Donald Trump’s campaign,” DNC Chairman Tom Perez said in a statement.
“This constituted an act of unprecedented treachery: the campaign of a nominee for President of the United States in league with a hostile foreign power to bolster its own chance to win the presidency,” he said.
The case asserts that the Russian hacking campaign — combined with Trump associates’ contacts with Russia and the campaign’s public cheerleading of the hacks — amounted to an illegal conspiracy to interfere in the election that caused serious damage to the Democratic Party.
Senate investigators and prosecutors for special counsel Robert S. Mueller III are still investigating whether Trump associates coordinated with the Russian efforts. Last month, House Intelligence Committee Republicans said they found no evidence that President Trump and his affiliates colluded with Russian officials to sway the election or that the Kremlin sought to help him — a conclusion rejected by the panel’s Democrats.
Basically they are yelling "treason" without any proof to back up the claim.
Why now, when the investigation is still ongoing?
This is obviously a political play, but what do they hope to accomplish?
The DNC lawsuit also names as a defendant the Russian military intelligence service, the GRU, which has been accused by the U.S. government of orchestrating the hacks, as well as WikiLeaks, which published the DNC’s stolen emails, and the group’s founder Julian Assange.
The lawsuit was also filed against Roger Stone, the longtime Trump confidante who claimed during the campaign that he was in contact with Assange.
They forgot to name the Illuminati.
BTW, here's a list of lawsuits concerning the DNC and 2016 election:
11th Circuit Court of Fed Appeals issued order on #DNCFraudLawsuit today, asserting jurisdiction and allowing appeal to proceed.
— DNC Fraud Lawsuit (@dncfraudlawsuit) January 10, 2018
Clinton using DNC to launder cash
The Hillary Clinton Campaign and the Democratic National Committee allegedly used state chapters as strawmen to launder as much as $84 million in an effort to circumvent campaign donation limits, and the Federal Election Commission ignored complaints exposing the practice, a lawsuit filed Monday claims.
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Two guesses
1. If allegations start fading away, they want to be able to say "just because criminal investigation or prosecution failed to meet standard of beyond-reasonable-doubt, that's not exoneration, because court is still considering whether our lawsuit will result in meeting the civil standard of preponderance-of-evidence".
2. They might also hope to duck some questions by saying "no comment because related court case is pending".
TOP has an answer
Over on the GOS, this update on the diary is worth noting
F*ck Tom Perez.
He's been a disaster.
Nevertheless "keeping the issue in the news" might be the real reason for this lawsuit.
But that brings up another question: Why does it need to be headline news now?
Something must be going against the Dem establishment that forces them to bring this issue to a head.
What is it? The Dems sinking in the polls? The progressive insurgency gaining momentum? Is the Democratic base starting to pay attention to actual issues, and now must be distracted by ScaryRussia?
Some combination of these things?
I think you got it right.
Didn't Comey just say that he thought Trump was NOT a Russian shill. Mueller's investigation is off the collusion tract although all the TOP graduates from the Law and Order Law School think Mueller is some sort of legal genius.
This is also meant for establishment dems to avoid talking once again about policy.
But a diversion and a front page news story for sure.
Poor fundraising is their problem. Wait until
the GoFundMe page goes up for contributions to the legal fund for their suit and in defense of the ones filed against them.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
Ding, ding, ding!
Methinks you may have hit that nail on its proverbial head.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Yep. Remember that Andy McCabe had a gfm fundraiser
just in case he was charged for something. Today he was and his fundraiser came up in the comments. A few people said that they had donated to it.
Ole Andy isn't poor and I don't understand why he felt that he had to rely on the public for his defense funding. Rumors are that he is worth $11 million. There are so many desperate people who use gfm and they are begging for money and along comes rich Andy begging for it too.
Cad!
The republicans and Manchkin voted against prosecuting car lenders that charge minorities more interest rates for car loans. What makes this worse is that they use the congressional review act to do it. This act is only meant to be used during a new president's first 100 days. The republicans undid a lot of Obama's last minute legislation that hadn't gone into effect yet. Not too many people were aware of them doing this. That's because people were focused on what Trump was tweeting and Russia Gate. The CRA only needs 60, maybe 50 votes to pass.
The democrats have been helping the republicans pass some heinous legislation that will hurt Americans, but help their masters pockets.
I'm already getting fundraising appeals from Schumer
Last one got marked Refused -- Return to sender
They forgot to name me.
I've conspired against her since 2008 and have no intention of stopping.
So is Bernie planning on running as a democrat because I need more targets?
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
Meanwhile new EPA internal emails show Trump trying to
stamp out "secret science." Will Trump ever have to answer for his encouraging the descent of our planet into irreversible climate peril? Will Trump ever have to answer for that? It won't be the DNC or the MSM asking him.
Beware the bullshit factories.
I can think of a few witnesses to call up at the deposition
This case, if pursued, would be quite interesting.
The first would be Alexandra Chalupa, the oppo research person from the DNC who allegedly was working for Clinton digging up dirt on Trump and Manafort. I'd ask her who her research took her to. For example, the names of people in Ukraine that she contacted. I'd ask her if and when she met CIA operatives and officials. I would ask a lot of questions about Seth Rich and his duties. I would bring in the cast at Crowdstrike, to include Dimitri Alperovitch, the head of that "cybersecurity" company and grill that SOB about his connections to the Atlantic Council.
I'd interview William Binney, who will demolish the claim that the Russians "hacked" the DNC computers.
In fact, I would put people on the stand and find out if the kerfluffle very early in the primaries about the Sanders "intrusion" into the DNC computers. It looks like that may have been the initial psyop that was transferred to Trump.
Oh, and I would definitely put Wasserman and Clinton on the stand. I would ask Clinton about her career in the CIA, which appears to go back to the sixties. I'd ask Wasserman about the shenanigans pulled on Sanders, I'd ask about the people dropped from the Democratic Party rolls during the primaries. And I'd ask about how the party laundered foreign donations through 32 state parties before sending them back to Hillary's PACs.
In a lawsuit like this both sides get to question their own list of witnesses.
That is why this suit will be dismissed by a judge or dropped by the plaintiffs before interrogatories begin. The DNC has so much more to lose and the folks in Langley who've been pulling the strings don't want the truth to be known.
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the little things you can do are more valuable than the giant things you can't! - @thanatokephaloides. On Twitter @wink1radio. (-2.1) All about building progressive media.
Exactly! This could very well backfire. I think they are trying
to distract attention from the recent criminal referrals. It's so ridiculous though it will probably be thrown out of court.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
And maybe I'd question Robert Swan Mueller III too
Because, why not? I'm sure he has lots to tell.
Mueller is on the hook for uranium one
The whole deal was under FBI investigation for people being blackmailed and other crimes and Mueller made some type of deal to make it go away.
Uranium one is supposedly under investigation too. Lots of secret investigations are happening. There's one on Hillary's foundation.
Well now they’ve got lawsuit coming and
going. Sanders supporters are suing the Dims and DNC for fraud and lies. The fraudsters and liars are suing the walking turd hearse that beat their cheaters pant suited patoot.
Hahahaha. Ar this rate America can NEVER be great ‘again’. It’s corrut politicos have turned it into an equally corrupt banana republic.
Our export? War.
I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks
Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa
So Much for Accepting the Results...
Not only that, but I think this may not work with the working class voter that the DNC continues to ignore.
One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.--Tennyson
OMG! The stupidity of some people
US strikes remove moral hurdles for S-300 missiles for Assad
Russia: US strikes remove moral hurdles for S-300 missiles for Assad, Russian FM says
Escalate the arms sales! This means war.
Either that or I'm so baked it reads wrong, "we have no moral obligations" sounds pretty wrong right now.
maybe bong hits will cure my desire for peace
mir my ass
WikiLeaks comments
Here we go
Wow, talk about chutzpah!
The DNC suing someone else for the same ratfuckery THEY perpetrated during the primaries? God, the screenplay for that courtroom drama just writes itself, don't it? Pity it'll never get that far. The opposing side would have a field day digging up the skeletons in the DNC's closet.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
I've got no problem
with this no evidence lawsuit. It would be nice to see Trump get bit in the ass with the same treatment he gave Syria with no evidence.
Lets just call for a complete new POTUS election for 2018, and include Sanders, Stein, and that other guy.
The ballots have not been printed up yet.
Then watch both of them turds squirm.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Let me fix that for you.
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federal district court in Manhattan,the wrong fucking court because Jared Beck hates Bernie Sanders and seems to be bungling the lawsuit on purpose, alleges that topTrumpDNC campaign officials conspired with theRussian governmentClinton campaign andits military spy agencythe Clinton Foundation to hurt Democratic presidential nomineeHillary ClintonBernie Sanders and helpTrumpClinton by hacking thecomputer networks of the Democratic Partyelectronic voting machines anddisseminating stolen material found theredestroying ballots, not counting votes, turning away voters and changing party rules.“During the 2016 presidential primary campaign,
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foreign powercorporate power to bolster its own chance to win the presidency,”hewe said.Game, Set, Match
You nailed it.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
This is what I don't get
We have evidence that shows how Hillary and the DNC rigged the primary against Bernie and the media and everyone else never talked about it. Why? This is when Hillary cooked up Her conspiracy that Russia was interfering with the election and everyone believed her. Wikileaks released an email between her and Podesta that said they should get the media to focus on that so they don't focus on the contents of the email and what Wikileaks was saying.
Hillary knew that the FBI investigation into her private email server was going to be a problem and she did everything she could to make sure that the media and others didn't focus on it. They didn't.
I'm actually happy that they did this because people are going to have to testify under oath about what happened and we'll learn more about it. Good move, dufuses!
This is a PR stunt
If this survives a motion to dismiss, the first thing the defendants will do is subpoena access to the DNC servers. You know, those servers that no one but Crowdstrike ever looked at, not even the F B I? There will also be subpoenas sent to Crowdstrike for everything it did related to the DNC and Clinton campaign.
My guess? Those servers have been bleached. So the only "evidence of a hack" will be Crowdstrike's report, but without any physical evidence, well let's just say I wouldn't want to put all my eggs in the credibility of Crowdstrike considering what we know about their conflicts of interest involving Trump, Clinton and Russia. Plus there is no way Crowdstrike itself will want to turn over all the docs relating to its work for the DNC and Clinton.
The end result? Case will quietly go away at some point long before trial. It's being filed now because this is an election year. As soon as the midterms are over I predict this case will be over, either because it's dismissed or because the DNC withdraws its complaint.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
@Steven D What is your reading of
What is your reading of the plantiff's use of DCM as part of the strategy? I couldn't figure that one out.
One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.--Tennyson
Not an IP lawyer
so I can't really say, but I assume it's the kitchen sink approach to any complaint. File every charge imaginable and see what the Judge doesn't dismiss.
"You can't just leave those who created the problem in charge of the solution."---Tyree Scott
Oh yeah, those servers were wiped long ago:
https://www.scribd.com/document/376909203/DNC-Lawsuit
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." - JFK | "The more I see of the moneyed peoples, the more I understand the guillotine." - G. B. Shaw Bernie/Tulsi 2020
You mean with a rag? :-)
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I seriously thought this was
I seriously thought this was a fuggin joke. Then I read some brainwashed commenters saying shit like, "it's about time," and I realized it was for real. I mean wtf is going on here? They can't be serious about this crap.....
If it was easy, everyone would do it.
Jimmy Dore
The 'evidence' from Syria our government
Presented to congress as a preamble to war were videos from Social media? You gotta be fucking kidding me!?!
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Zoe, the social media was the White Helmets
This is the video that congress saw that made them think that Assad gassed his citizens. They are funded by us, the U.K. and the Saudis. There are numerous videos showing how they get the kids to practice being gassed with chemical weapons. A few of us here have posted videos and photos showing how they did that. Message me if you're interested in them.
Russia Gate is two years old now and still there is no evidence that it happened. But people are holding out hope that Mueller is going to find that smoking gun that will prove that it happened.
"Remember that it took a lot of time before they had proof of what Nixon did." This is what people are saying when you ask them about the evidence.
I actually have seen the videos
My incredulity stems from the fact that that this is the ONLY evidence congress was shown.
A social media video.
In a congressional briefing.
Was the ENTIRE basis for military action.
If this wasn't so fucking lethal this would be pathetically hilarious.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
It's only a matter of time until Jimmy and others are kicked
off U tube. Facebook is not allowing the world socialist website to place their article on it. The moderates are saying that it's fake news. This is going to be a big problem very soon because the PTB are not going to tolerate anyone who doesn't tow the party line.
CA did the same thing for the Obama campaign that they did for Trump's, but things are happening too quickly and they don't want people to tell us the truth about it. Orwell was so prescient to describe what the world would be like in the future.
I subscribe to Jimmy Dore and a few others.
I clicked their little bells to be notified of their posts. Invariably, Youtube dumps a few CNN and MSNBC notices into my feed. I dutifully tell them for the 100th time that I don't want their notices ever again and then I hide them.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
The Intel Vets reports have to be taken
into consideration at some point in this lawsuit. And even though the Vets themselves had a back and forth about the findings concerning the hacking, the bottom line is that the speed at which the downloading occurred was too fast to be an outside job. Here is a link to the discussion within the Intel Vets.
https://www.thenation.com/article/a-leak-or-a-hack-a-forum-on-the-vips-m...
That being said, when my spouse and I were watching the PBS report on the DNC lawsuit, we agreed that the DNC lives in some kind of other world and hasn't a clue as to how NUTS they all look.
"Without the right to offend, freedom of speech does not exist." Taslima Nasrin
Looney Tunes
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.