The Russians are scared, and that is very, very bad
The Doomsday Clock was moved 2 minutes to midnight, the worst it has been since the 1950's, and still the Democrats insist on beating the drums of war.
President Putin announces a new nuclear missile and says, 'Now you will listen'. The Dems respond by banging the drums of war even more.
The Times’s world-view begins to look like the script of a Batman sequel with Vlad Putin cast in The Joker role of the cackling psychopath who must be stopped at all costs! America’s generals have switched on the Batman signal beacon, but Donald Trump in the role of the Caped Crusader, merely dithers and broods in the splendid isolation of his 1600 Penn Avenue Bat Cave, suffering yet another of his endless bipolar identity crises. For God’s sake, The Times shrieks, do something! The Russians are coming! (Gotham City’s Chief of Police Hillary said exactly that last week in a Tweet!)
I think they misunderstood Mr. Putin’s recent message when he announced a new hypersonic missile technology that would, supposedly, cut through any imaginable US missile defense. The actual message, for the non mental defectives left in this drooling idiocracy of a republic, was as follows: Nuclear war remains unthinkable, so kindly stop thinking about it.
If someone is holding a nuclear weapon in their hands out of fear for their life, the last thing you want to do is yell, "Get him!"
What you want to do is to calm the situation.
Americans just don't get it.
Just by an off-chance I ran across a video that might help Americans to understand how Russians are thinking.
The discussion involves a U.S.-NATO military base in Ukraine.
One moment in the video worth noting is at 1:15 in the video, when someone says:
"name me one country to which Americans came and then left."
To which the response was:
"Well, I can't."
And I can't either. Which is rather disturbing for any non-American.
What really caught my attention was at 2:40 into the video, when the guy yelled out:
"We also had peace June 20, 1941!"
And everyone on the set went silent.
It's not a joke.
"Whole countries and continent will burn down! You'll forget everything!..Nuclear weapons, chemical weapons, all will be blown!"
People in nuclear armed Russia are scared, the American media is yelling, "Get them!"
This is insane, and only the Russians seem to grasp the seriousness of it.
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Nuclear Freeze Now!
Money quote:
I completely missed this event last year:
https://www.risestronger.org/events/nuclear-freeze-rally-35th-anniversary
Gonna see if L.A. has one this year.
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
NATO Nuclear Buildup
Nuclear Insanity:
Italy and Turkey? "Other" European countries?
What could possibly go wrong?
This new nuclear-armed US bomb may be the most dangerous weapon in America's arsenal
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"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
Point:
The yield of the "usable" b61 bomb - 50 kilotons
Yield of the Hiroshima bomb - (estimated) 12-20 kilotons.
On to Biden since 1973
The US is the only country in the world that has dropped atomic
bombs on two civilian targets. It is also the only nation in the world that has deliberately fire bombed civilian cities. America is "exceptional" all right. Unfortunately for the wrong reasons.
to be fair
Britain firebombed Dresden.
So we aren't alone
The decision to firebomb Dresden was a joint descision
by both the British and American military. The truth of the matter was that the Allies bomber command had run out of lucrative military targets in Germany (same for Japan). By this time, with the Russian forces rapidly advancing from the east, (several hundred thousand refugees fleeing the Russians had packed into Dresden) the firebombing of Dresden was meaningless to the final outcome of the war. Just as were the atomic bombs dropped on Japan.
Both were outright war crimes. If the US and Britain had lost, they would be the ones hanging by their necks.
All of it,
in my opinion, was meant to distract from a focus on industrial treason on the part of U.S. corporations that were arming Germany. I know that sounds absurd and in a way, but I believe the mass murder of German civilians, as well as Japanese civilians, was a way of demonstrating where our focus was, on Germany, on Japan, rather than on the executives who built, armed, and maintained those enemy war machines during the war. This charade, that it is the people of the countries who make war, rather than the military industrial executors of war, is right in front of us today. Angry about Assad? Here's what we do to him: my comment here would be followed by a photograph of a mangled, bloody, infant killed in Syria multiplied by 700,000.
The US helped to finance and rebuild Germany's war machine
prior to WWII. The game plan was that Hitler would move eastward and destroy Russia first. But Hitler also wanted Poland for Lebensraum. In 1939 Poland signed a military alliance with the United Kingdom and France for protection. Hitler invaded anyway, figuring those two countries would not back up their treaty. He was wrong.
The original game plan went to shit due to Hitler's megalomania. He had figured Germany was now so powerful he could do whatever he wanted. He was Master of the Universe - a modern Caesar who would rule the world. WWII broke out and 60 million people died. A half decade later he would be laying dead in a hole in the ground with his brains blown out.
Do you believe Assad is responsible for the carnage in Syria?
My interpretation of the comment...
Was that the power brokers stage the war, profiting from both sides, paint a villain and transitively stoke hatred for the hapless civilians in those respective "regimes" (e.g. "Kill the Japs! Kill the Krauts! Kill the VC!") Thereby "solving" the war problem by killing those hapless civilians (i.e. bombing/killing them in their cities) through carpet-bomb, napalm, etc.
Works every time, so far.
Yes,
that is what I meant.
No,
and yes.
I blame us, the CIA and our "allies," the "Gulf States and Turkey", the war machine, the merchants of death, and Assad by virtue of the fact that he has responded in kind.
Because I find the Samantha Power mainstream media assertion that ALL of the slaughter of civilians in Syria is done by Assad to be a pathetic claim, as if the half-trillion dollars we have spent on weaponry has resulted in boxes of mortars and explosives sitting there unopened while Assad pummels neighborhoods, I do not blame Assad. Placing the humane and decent killers known as ISIS and Al Qaeda and whatever they name themselves within neighborhoods so that Assad will bomb them is part of the hell of this insanity. I blame us for fueling this carnage. But the anger Samantha Power works so hard to cultivate is never followed by a solution. It is followed by the murder of innocents by us.
Assad is partly responsible
Without a doubt Assad is a butcher.
That's proven.
It also isn't an important point, because the people we've been arming are clearly far worse. That can be measured by refugee patterns.
Most Syrians fled to Assad-controlled areas. Almost none fled to rebel-controlled areas.
Amen.
I agree with you. The merchants of death know that war is easy to start, nearly impossible to end, and that the addictive quality of weapons is that the more you use them the more you have to use them.
Syria's war has gone on for so long, and has been covered in the way that it is covered by the mainstream media for so long, that you have to see a pattern. Attempts to end it through ceasefire and negotiation have been repeatedly destroyed, reportedly by what would otherwise be insane moves by Assad. Since Assad is still in place in Syria's government, I can't see any motive for him to undermine the negotiations to end the war by counter-intuitively using chemical weapons or pummeling neighborhoods. Whoever is doing this wants the war to continue, and I see the motive for it as consistent with the interests of people who benefit from keeping it going, namely our war machine, and the Saudis, who want the relatively progressive Assad regime to end.
The US and Israel have wanted Assad removed since at least
2006. I presume you have already read the cables Wikileaks had revealed? I had posted them at TOP back in 2010.
And remember Wes Clark's list of 7 countries
Yep. All part and parcel of the Israeli Yinon Plan
The balkanization and destruction of Muslim dominated nations in the Middle East so they cannot project power outside their borders. The control of energy resources was an added bonus that made this project inevitable.
"This is a memo that describes how we're going to take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq, and then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and, finishing off, Iran." - General Wesley Clark.
As much of a butcher as Qaddafi or Putin or Obama?
Where and when did Assad do his "butchering"?
Assad
Here is one place
The countless barrel bombs is another.
Babies thrown out of incubators, again?
Those photos were debunked years ago. Were you at TOP when they were discussed there? There are also several more reports by reliable reporters that show this story to be outright propaganda designed to "demonize the enemy".
BTW, this does not mean that there was no sadistic torture going on in Syrian prisons. Shit like this happens in every conflict - even in American prisons. Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo come to mind but I've yet to hear that either Bush or Obama were "butchers" because of it.
Barrel bombs?
How do they stack up to an American standard issue MK-82 which is of comparable weight? The crude barrel bombs may take the roof or facing off a building so there's a good chance of surviving in the basement. The MK-82 will penetrate to the basement and bring down the entire structure.
Compare the damage done to Mosul by US bombs to Aleppo.
Aleppo is being repaired while speak.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O81HZ8zQ79A]
You don't have to convince me that we've committed
war crimes in Mosul and Raqqa.
Already been there and done that.
That doesn't mean that barrel bombs shouldn't be a war crime too.
As for the torture photos being debunked, I don't believe that.
Forgive me for believing they are real.
I'll leave you with the following reports
Personally, I don't buy into the veracity of the photos. Just like Assad using chemical weapons on children or continually bombing hospitals. None of these serve any rational purpose in the conflict other than as propaganda against Bashar Assad. Whenever I hear something extraordinary I always apply the key forensic question: "cui bono".
BTW, why haven't these photos been submitted to The International Criminal Court and charges brought against Assad for crimes against humanity? The only countries that have publicly expressed support at the UN are France, the United Kingdom, Luxembourg, Argentina, Australia and South Korea. The United States, Russia and China have not supported charges. As you know, these countries have veto power so it's dead in the water.
Can't speak for her, but
I took her comment to mean that the uninvited US 'anti-terrorist' civilian-killing/maiming attacks and the importing of, training of, arming of, paying of, (rescues of) and creation-by-violence of, terrorists moving into Syria and in which the US and allied others were variously involved, doing so in order to 'destabilize' the country and 'make Assad look bad', killed an awful lot of people, including children. Among many other things inflicted on civilians there and in other countries the US (edit: PTB) wished to 'destabilize', invade/attack/'regime change' for a puppet-government for corporate benefit.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
@Linda Wood
I've been wondering for a while if perhaps Dresden was bombed to destroy factories and/or other evidence of the US industrialists active involvement in Germany, before it could be seen and leaked by uninvolved allies/military.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ford, GM, IBM, DuPont and other US companies were known
to have continued their production for the Third Reich well after the US declared war. There was some talk about why some of these plants had escaped Allied bombing but nothing was definitively proven.
Many of these US corporations received financial reparations after the war for damages done to their plants in Europe from Allied bombing.
Some companies and banks had destroyed much of their documentation by the end of the war to conceal their complicity.
And The US Trusts Erdogon With One or Two?
Italy is also teetering on the edge of chaos politically. Nobody in their right mind would trust these countries with nukes. How is Turkey more reliable than Iran or Iraq? Erdogon might decide to nuke Greece for Christ sake.
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
There are reports that the nuclear weapons have been removed
It would be very logical to move the nukes to
Deveselu Base, Romania.
This missile base is one of the reasons for Russia's current actions. Nukes are easy to re-locat once some infrastructure for their protection has been accomplished.
I’m beginning to wonder if TPTB are considering nuclear
war as a remedy for global warming with the added bonus of “decreas[ing] the surplus population.” (E. Scrooge) I still think that they believe their great wealth can protect them from anything, which is madness.
"The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now do you begin to understand me?" ~Orwell, "1984"
Nuclear War as a Remedy
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
May their great wealth afford them the benefit
Of surviving the initial detonation, only to come to the gruesome realization that they cannot supply themselves with enough clean water to survive the aftermath.
There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier
Gotta agree with that as a strong possibility
in at least some cases. The Psychopaths That Be cherish their own delusions and do believe that they can buy anything - even in a situation where money will be worthless.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Gee, people might not be dying in Donbass right now
if we hadn't overthrown the Ukraine government and installed the Nazis. Just a thought.
Another comment: "You must be happy that Russia has restrained itself."
I took this as Russia has been watching as this country has been building up troops in countries that have borders with Russia. Or maybe as they've watched us destroying one country after another. They did say that it's this country that is working towards war and that Europe is getting tired of us doing this. There were lots of good comments in this video. I think that Russia is saying that enough is enough. We're done sitting back and watching what the USA does.
I just wish our government would listen. Did you notice Biden was speaking to the Council on Foreign Relations? Those warmongers who have been setting our foreign policies for so long. Yeah, I can see why the nuclear clock is moving closer to midnight.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Ukraine
You need to label the pictures
1.[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spnPfc61tPo]
2.
A heavily damaged hotel near the Donetsk airport in war-ravaged Eastern Ukraine | Andrew Burton/Getty Images
3.
The Iversky Monastery was a monastery of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) in Donetsk, Ukraine. It was built between 1997 and 2001, and was closed in 2014 due to the War in Donbass. The monastery was largely destroyed by Ukrainian Ground Forces shelling during the Second Battle of Donetsk Airport in January 2015.
4.
5. [video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2UNmyGmh18]
Several of your photographs can be found here:
Thank you,
I feel what is missing in the frustrating debate about our so-called foreign policy is photography. I am old enough to remember that Americans didn't really know what the Holocaust was until, quite long after the war, they saw the photography and the films. Then it was real. That is what is needed now. Photographs of Syria, photographs of Yemen, they will make the difference.
It is important to source any photos.
The photos of the dead mother and child that were killed when Gorluvka was bombed (The Gorlovka Madonna) were actually used as propaganda by Kiev. They blamed their deaths on Russia. The reality is they were killed when the town was indiscriminately shelled by Ukrainian forces. Kristina was taking her child out for a walk in the park when dozens of shells came raining down on her and her neighbors.
Germany starting to ignore Russian sanctions
growing trade
germany still needs gas
Good, they all have to. All other countries.
The US Psychopaths That Be cannot be trusted, do not keep agreements anyway, and will simply continue to pick off one - or now perhaps multiple - countries at a time until the world of life completely dies, in their sick quest for Total Global Dominance and the micromanagement of everything and everyone on Earth. They will blindly destroy the Earth in their taking of it, believing that they will somehow happily and comfortably exist in some science fiction novel, under a pathological 'philosophy' taken from another novel, because they do not believe in reality. Unless, of course, they are stopped.
Most Americans don't want to live, struggle, sicken and die under fascism anyway; they'd rather have the democracy promised in their Constitution, which they have yet to see fulfilled. In my dreams, the world would try the Psychopaths That Be for their war crimes, lock them all up and let the American people hold free and fair elections with an actual choice of human beings for each public office.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Despite the Russia mania
I decided to go ahead and play Kalinnikov's 1st Symphony anyway.
Off to shovel snow later. Oh wait, don't Russians do that too?
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
TYT jumps another shark
So just to be clear
Assuming the allegation is 100% factual as stated then it went down something like this...
Russia: Hey, we don't think those sanctions are fair. We'd prefer a partner we could talk to regarding getting them lifted.
Russia: Oh, and regarding the whole disaster in the MidEast, don't you think we ought to be cooperating to cool that whole situation down?
Trump: Yeah, I agree.
Here's the problem. I agree with Russia on both points also. Of course, that's probably why I'm a Putin stooge. I simply don't see it as evil for Russia to engage in such discussions. I'm not clear why anyone would? Nor do I see why Trump is evil for agreeing with them. I'm no fan of Putin or Russia. I just want to pay less for a massive war machine which slaughters people in job lots across the face of the globe. It sounds like Putin wants that too. That makes us allies of convenience not BFF's.
A lot of wanderers in the U.S. political desert recognize that all the duopoly has to offer is a choice of mirages. Come, let us trudge towards empty expanse of sand #1, littered with the bleached bones of Deaniacs and Hope and Changers.
-- lotlizard
@Bollox Ref
Lol, we had a downpour culminating in a foot of snow the other night; hope yours isn't that drastic!
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Americans have never truly experienced the horrors of war.
They honestly (and stupidly) believe Pearl Harbor and 9/11 was "war". The ignorant fucks collectively shit their pants when those two relatively minor events took place. Most Americans just stopped shopping for a week or two. Look at the countries the US has destroyed and the millions of innocents that have died after both those events.
And capitalism in general has killed 1.6 billion.
Modern education is little more than toeing the line for the capitalist pigs.
Guerrilla Liberalism won't liberate the US or the world from the iron fist of capital.
After the coup, this is who was installed to rule Ukraine
The Ultra Nationalists who were the bad asses of the Nazi bad asses. This is too long to properly excerpt.
The Nazis Even Hitler Was Afraid of
What we have wrought on the people of other countries is beyond words. Disgusting, horrible and heinous doesn't go far enough for the misery we have induced. Many of us abhor it, others not so much.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Putin is a master statesman and tactician
He always follows through with his statements. His actions match his statements. He makes no decisions out of anger or spite. All are coldly calculated to maximize benefit to Russia and it's people. You need look no further than how effectively he has handled Georgia, Ukraine, Crimea and Syria and the sanctions which were to bring Russia to it's knees. Russia has risen to become much, much stronger and more secure under his leadership since the US attempt to gut and dismember his country in the 1990's.
Putin knows exactly how the US Deep State will respond to his words. They will use this opportunity to double down on defense spending which will literally suck the life blood from the nation. Putin understands the only thing that can destroy the American Empire without also destroying the entire world is to set up conditions that will cause self-destruction from internal forces. Globally, the US is now at the lowest point in its favorability ratings since Vietnam.
Yep
That's what I keep thinking. And like moths to a flame, the politicians, media and MIC power will gleefully, do just that...all while a substantial portion of the U.S. citizenry will be cheering on their own, ultimate demise.
Wow, that means Putin’s using the exact same jiu-jitsu that
neocon pundits claim the Reagan administration successfully used to bankrupt the Soviet Union — with all the hoopla then surrounding new MX Peacekeeper missiles, futuristic “Star Wars” (fake?) anti-missile defense, etc. etc.
Yes. But there is a diffence. Putin knows when to stop.
After the complete collapse of the USSR in the 1990's, the Basement Crazies crawled out from their holes and took control of the Pentagon and intelligence agencies from Bush the Lessor. It posed little problem for them as Master Bush was busy at school studying goats with the other 2nd graders.
The game plan was laid out in Rebuilding America's Defenses, Strategy, Forces and Resources. The plan was simple and concise. American military would gain Full Spectrum Dominance over the entire globe. America would become the Masters of the Universe. It will be Pax Americana.
But this would be a slow and arduous process. It would take considerably longer than it would take Bush the Lessor to finish his grade 2 assignment. Fortunately for the Crazies (we can no longer call them the Basement Crazies - they had moved into the WH and were occupying the back bedrooms where they reside to this very day), a catastrophic and catalyzing event – just like a new Pearl Harbor - sped up the process of transformation. It was now the end of history.
So here we are today, after a mere decade and a half has passed, Vlad the Bad has gone and upset the Crazies' apple cart.
History will now continue....
Thank you!
I cannot think of any better way to phrase the obvious, although I fear your analysis is correct and they will indeed suck the life-blood out of the nation toward their still-planned War On The World, rather than cutting their losses and accepting another failure.
They are already draining the last drops from the American people and the real economy has shriveled with their lack of prosperity, yet they will not admit that they have hit the wall they've swerved into, because there must always be more for those who can never have enough and more victims to shake down somewhere.
But the world is turning to saner, more survivable choices
Edited: computer/mouse is going weird again, comment doubled again when posted, lot of disappearing text trying to write and other weirdness... and this just doubled again, when I right-clicked to copy before posting, as I generally do now... sigh... and just checked, luckily, to remove 13 duplicate comments.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
I fear Russia will launch a first strike
Because, what the fuck, they know eventially we will.
Want to stop this?
Find out where our rulers intend to hole up, and destroy their damned bunkers.
Level the playing field so nobody has a place to hide.
Heh heh.
Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.
Putin would never strike first.
He believes in MAD which makes a first strike by any nation an act of suicide.
Good thought!
Wasn't that Kennedy who thwarted warmongers wanting to do an unprovoked nuclear attack while hiding in bunkers by telling them that nobody was going anywhere; come up with something else?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yes,
but the something else they came up with was to remove him from the decision.
This time, we have to get them all in their bunkers,
leaving all 'nuclear buttons' and the like up here, seal all exits except for a space not big enough for a person to get through, to slide in supplies, and start healing the planet, societies and all, as best we can.
They would have wound up trapped in those bunkers anyway, so this way, we all get the results we were aiming for.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.