Open Thread 2-23-17: The Trend of Female Acceptance in the Charts
Nothing too spectacular this week, just noticing the changing trends and acceptance of female musical artists in the last 60 years.
The Top 10, 60 years ago, Feb. 23, 1957
1 1 7 YOUNG LOVE-TAB HUNTER
2 2 10 Don't Forbid Me-Pat Boone
3 2 9 Young Love-Sonny James
3 4 5 Too Much-Elvis Presley
5 5 18 Singing The Blues-Guy Mitchell
6 7 7 Banana Boat Song (Day O)-Harry Belafonte
7 6 13 Moonlight Gambler-Frankie Laine
8 7 10 Banana Boat Song-The Tarriers
9 9 8 Blue Monday-Fats Domino
10 10 7 You Don't Owe Me A Thing-Johnnie Ray
Those numbers on the left of each song are the order for this week, then where they were last week and the final number is how long they've been in the charts. So Guy Mitchell had a hit! 18 weeks and still #5. That Tab Hunter thing is way inferior to Sonny James' version. Elvis, Belafonte, Fats...some good stuff there. All male, I see.
Not so good
Much better
A big hit!
The Top 10, 50 years ago, Feb. 25, 1967 (closest to today's date)
1 1 KIND OF A DRAG –•– The Buckinghams (U.S.A.)-9 (2 weeks at #1) (1)
2 6 LOVE IS HERE AND NOW YOU’RE GONE –•– The Supremes (Motown)-5 (2)
3 3 RUBY TUESDAY –•– The Rolling Stones (London)-6 (3)
4 2 I’M A BELIEVER –•– The Monkees (Colgems)-12 (1)
5 4 GEORGY GIRL –•– The Seekers (Capitol)-13 (2)
6 9 THE BEAT GOES ON –•– Sonny and Cher (Atco)-7 (6)
7 10 GIMME SOME LOVIN’ –•– The Spencer Davis Group (United Artists)-9 (7)
8 13 THEN YOU CAN TELL ME GOODBYE –•– The Casinos (Fraternity)-7 (8)
9 5 (We Ain’t Got) NOTHIN’ YET –•– The Blues Magoos (Mercury)-12 (5)
10 19 BABY I NEED YOUR LOVIN’ –•– Johnny Rivers (Imperial)-4 (10)
The Supremes, the Seekers, Cher. A few women, 10 years later. And this is a decent chart. Pretty Ballerina, For What It's Worth, Tell It Like It Is a little lower, Penny Lane and Strawberry Fields just entering the list.
Women!
Gents who are usually....not polite to women
Current Top 10
1 Last Week: 1 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran (this sucks)
2 Last Week: 3 I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) - Zayn / Taylor Swift
3 Last Week: 2 Bad And Boujee - Migos Featuring Lil Uzi Vert
4 Last Week: -- Chained To The Rhythm - Katy Perry Featuring Skip Marley
5 Last Week: 7 Closer - The Chainsmokers Featuring Halsey
6 Last Week: 5 Bad Things - Machine Gun Kelly x Camila Cabello (I hate this)
7 Last Week: 37 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars (quite a move for Bruno, up 30 spots)
8 Last Week: 13 Love On The Brain - Rihanna (30 top 10 hits for Rihanna now)
9 Last Week: 16 I Feel It Coming - The Weeknd Featuring Daft Punk
10 Last Week: 6 Bounce Back - Big Sean
I bet they're all bad. But gender's no longer a problem in terms of airplay. Sexism is pretty bad, however.
Good luck!
and this...not my cup of tea (why are these new songs twice as long?)
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No, wait! This is "lastly"! After a fairly long time doing Thursday Open Threads I'm ready to pass it on. Somebody...please volunteer!
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The majority of music purchasers
The majority of those who purchase music, from the vinyl age to the CD age to the download age, are and have been female. So any change in acceptance is mainly on the part of females buying the music of female artists.
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The MSM does like to push the idea...
that any music not put out by their illustrious focus groups is sexist. (Corporations do like to have power over their artists, which means that those that don't toe the line are to be shunned.)
I wish I was kidding, but the amount of times the music I like has been called sexist, racist, etc... drives me absolutely insane. I have one defining reason that I like good music, and that's whether or not it gets me going and happy. So, here's a sample of the stuff that's been declared all of the -ist titles the MSM can throw at it.
You will never see any of this stuff get MSM airplay. Ever.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJc9Fko0mf4]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwED4C5FJuo]
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLOfluH8mgQ]
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the conditions that create our culture
thanks for posting those videos.
"You will never see any of this stuff get MSM airplay. Ever." Is that you volunteering for Thursday Open Thread? lol just kidding. Thanks for sharing what is Never Seen. After watching the first two I'm all huh? What is the problem oh yeah, is it reference to "gamergate" or whatever it's called? I don't know, but you are making me think. Thanks.
Yesterday for a morning workout I watched and listened to Rage Against The Machine - First Public Performance (Full Concert) - October 23, 1991
So I was already thinking about how social and economic conditions create culture and counter-culture. I skipped RATM all through the 90s it did not penetrate my bubble (Bay Area proximity disease I think). I mean I listened, and knew they were there, but never was fanatical. Like now
Oh man, he is talking about George Bush the First bombing Iraq. Feh! It never ends. Listen to Township Rebellion, same same today if you ask me. Just a different veneer.
Thanks
Edit: oops "our" not or culture.
Oh, I have links.
http://www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/news/1015-racism-and-sexism-in-heavy-metal...
https://www.destructoid.com/studying-sexism-with-skyrim-fus-ro-va-gina--...
It's not a "Gamergate" thing. It's a blanked accusation, made by the MSM, and amplified by selective criticism in order to delegitimize an artform.
Essentially, they want control, and when they don't get it, they rely on the same tactics as the Democratic party. Smear the other side, and continue the lie until it becomes common knowledge.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
In the 20s, 30s, 40s and 50s, "girl" singers did okay.
Among many, many were Ethel Waters, Josephine Baker, Ella Fitzgerald, Billie Holiday, Sarah Vaughn, Lena Horne, Pearl Bailey, Bessie Smith, Helen O'Connell, Jane Froman, Doris Day, The Andrews Sisters, the Maguire Sisters, Peggy Lee, Patti Page, Brenda Lee, Lesley Gore, Connie Francis, Dinah Washington, Della Reese, and on and on.
Beyonce and Adele are doing okay as we type.
But yes, guy groups outnumber gal groups and guys outnumber gals on the charts.
One thing about those singers is that most can be considered
to have been fronting for a band or orchestra. Female performers who grabbed their axe and did their thing, like Memphis Minnie, were much rarer.
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Thirties and Forties yes, but I don't know about the 20s and 50s
To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven....
In the Thirties and Forties, I don't think there was any shame in singing with a big band behind you, any more than there was shame in playing drums or guitar and singing with a male rock group with no big band behind it in the 1960s or singing in front of nothing but drums and a couple of guitars, as did Elvis.
With a wonderful big band, like Dorsey or Miller, it was a coveted and respected spot for a singing group or soloist, male or female. Besides, if you had talent, you transcended it and survived the demise of the big band era, as did Frank Sinatra.