Our Government Proves it's Case, We don't Live in a Democracy
So the U.S. government is officially accusing Russia, and President Putin, of interfering in the U.S. presidential election.
"We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him," it said. The CIA and FBI had high confidence in this judgment and NSA moderate confidence, the report said."
That's what it's all about. The intelligence agencies, seventeen of them, are saying that the hacking was to discredit Clinton to help Trump, "Russia's" and Putin's preference, win the U.S. presidential election. They all presumably have the same evidence and have "high to moderate" confidence in this assertion. Sounds like a real smoking gun they're hiding from us.
That's the big deal in Amerika today. The evil Russians interfered in the U.S. presidential election. It's not about how Clinton received almost 3 million more votes but lost the rigged electoral college vote. It's not about the fact that Hillary Clinton was and is a de facto war criminal responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent people.
And it's especially not about the fact that we don't live in a democracy and this election was a sham from the beginning.
We the American Serfs, were presented with the two most unpopular choices for president in United States history. It's now a proven fact that we don't live in a democracy, but an oligarchy controlled by a plutocracy. But this is what the country is forced to be up in arms about, alleged Russian hacking that might have caused the American people, with their completely undemocratic political system, to elect Trump as president instead of a known war criminal.
To top it off, now they're openly admitting that Trump, by his comments challenging the assertion that Russia tried to help him win, is skating on thin ice because the CIA knows people who know people. Remember JFK there Donald? Chuck Schumer does, everybody does. Everybody knows. It's the worst kept secret in Washington. The CIA killed JFK, they'll kill you too Donald. If not, they'll surely make life very uncomfortable for THEIR BOSS and the semi elected
ultimate "representative" of the United States Serfs. It's like, "Hey American people, we'll kill your president if he doesn't do what we say", signed, the CIA".
In other words, they're admitting that our own intelligence agencies can and will retaliate against the President of the United States if they are crossed.
I heard that, did you?
Trump is reportedly even looking into hiring his own private security detail because he won't be able to trust the taxpayer provided security via the Secret Service. What the hell! When in the hell did this country become Colombia? I can just see it, everywhere Trump goes, two separate security details will come along each viewing the other suspiciously. Maybe a gunfight will break out at the O.K. Corral.
What's next, food tasters for the King? Who's gonna take that job? What about Melania and the silver spoon kids? Maybe they should hire Blackwater or whatever the hell it's called now to protect them from the U.S. government.
Isn't that what you're saying, Democratic party leader Chuck Schumer?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-intel-report-putin-directed-cy...
That's no defense of Trump of course. I'm in the group that detests him and wish he would break his fucking mouth, or fingers as it is. But what this says, openly, about the U.S. government and democracy is huge.
As for Trump, he's not going to rock the boat enough to even get water in it, let alone capsize it.
"Russia, China, other countries, outside groups and people are consistently trying to break through the cyber infrastructure of our governmental institutions, businesses and organizations" including the DNC.
"There was absolutely no effect on the outcome of the election including the fact that there was no tampering whatsoever with voting machines," Trump said."
He's just defending his "victory", his mandate from 20% of the American people to be King of the World. That's very important to him. The Global CyberWar is the new war that will keep on giving. He's obviously on board with that.
After all is said and done with this latest propaganda mind meld of the American sheeple, the focus will be on cyber security to make sure our elections aren't interfered with by foreign or even internal entities. The push will be for election "integrity". That's another dead end road the ruling elite will take us on to keep us in our safe little spaces, to make sure we keep everything within the oligarchy's political system and it's duopoly political parties. This political system lost it's integrity long ago.
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McCain and Graham are both pushing for war with Russia
He and Graham are gung-ho for war even if the war involves nuclear weapons.
Some people in our government actually believe that we can survive if just mini nukes are used against Russia. I'm sure that Russia wouldn't retaliate with bigger nukes if the USA used a mini nuke, aren't you?
I read a comment about the so called Russia hacking.
The person said that even if they were responsible for the email leaks, Podesta's emails wasn't owned by the government and he was a private citizen so why is Obama risking a dangerous war with Russia for a private citizen?
Could it be because it's already being planned and he wants people to be upset enough that they will think that a war is necessary?
Russia didn't hack the voting machines or change the results so therefore Russia wasn't responsible for Hillary losing the election, she was because she was such a shitty candidate. But she and her supporters can't admit that.
I'm amazed that so many people are falling for the government's propaganda.
For your enjoyment, here is Graham going on a rant about why he wants a war with Russia.
Apparently, Obama just threw little rocks that only caused little ripples in the pond and Graham wants to throw bigger rocks. Or something.
Was Humpty Dumpty pushed?
Not sure how much mileage they think they can get on this,
but evidently quite a lot. If what they're trying to do is paint Trump in a corner so he will abide by the Russia "firsters" wishes, I'm not sure how this does it. If they really believe the American people would be that stupid, wait, let me rephrase that. This is way too flimsy. It's not something the public is going to get too riled up about and evidently polls show most don't believe it anyway. Maybe it's a warning shot at Trump. Maybe it's a big game to set up the next steps.
Graham and McCain showing up on que indicates it's a power struggle between competing factions and they're using this to strengthen their hand on a number of fronts. Politics. It doesn't change anything for us, war is on the horizon either way and we need to try to stop it.
They proved their case long ago.
How true and well proven. Our government lies.
All the time.
When I no longer have use for something, I throw it away. And I use the shit out of everything before I recycle.
That must make me either a socialist, a communist, a tree hugger, a pacifist, an anti american or a forgotten hippy.
I welcome their hatred. They didn't or don't need me anyways.
Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.
I'm with you.
And, often, you can fix things. Sometimes, it is as simple as replacing a defective resistor.
How cool would it be to be able to diagnose and fix our political problems as simple as that?
At times, the list of defects gets so long it's simpler to buy a new board.
Yes. My usual FB reply to anything tossed at me.
Shall I stomp my feet? I have my first Voting Card in 63 years (minus 18, I guess). Officially Green. I think in NY I can only change Parties every 6 months. Where are we?
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Well, this amounts to 'Kabuki'
on the part of the bipartisan political 'Establishment,' IMO.
I've said this since the entire hullabaloo began. Just look at all the other (actual) hacks that have occurred since PBO has been Prez--no one got excited about any of them, even when millions were affected by the OPM breach!
Heard a conservative writer (John Gizzi) on XM Radio today--he claims that FSC is contemplating retiring her Buddy de Blasio, so she can become Mayor of NYC, and position herself for a third run for President.
I could believe that, since MSM reporting is that she's been making noises to the Big Dem Donors (about a 2020 run), since her shellacking in November.
IOW, most of this talk of Russian hacking is a distraction, and likely an attempt to win sympathy for FSC--with the purpose of selling the idea that 'she was robbed.' (of the Presidency in 2016)
Also, from what I'm hearing, DT will dump most of the intelligence community, ASAP. He's already asked for the immediate resignation, effective January 20, of all of the PBO ambassadors who are 'political appointees.' (And, maybe, some of the career folks, if I'm not mistaken.)
Regarding private security--DT has always had his own private security detail as a private citizen, and as a Presidential candidate. As far as I know, he picks up the tab for their services. With all the 'BS' coming out of the intelligence community (not to mention the not-so-veiled threats coming from some Dem lawmakers)--I doubt that he'll let them go. (Obviously, I agree that he should not have the taxpayer pick up the tab.)
Lately, I've got my attention on Paul Ryan. I hear the almost daily press briefings from both Parties (Leadership) on XM, and I think we're 'sunk.'
There are 10 Dem Party Senators up for re-election in 2018, who are from states that DT won.
And, according to some White House reporters, the Dem Leadership may work pretty closely with the DT Administration, in order to gain ground with Reagan Dems. IOW, they will want to be seen as working with DT on trade issues, infrastructure (job creation), etc.
On another note, I feel a great deal of concern for anyone who is not already a Social Security and/or Medicare beneficiary. I truly believe that Ryan--who already worked with Patty Murray to cut federal retirement benefits (by raising the employee contribution, without reciprocating on a raise in retirement benefits)--will work 'beautifully' with the Republicans (as DT would say), to strip future, and maybe even current, generations of their safety net.
We really need to be vigilant--for what good it will do.
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Oh God Please No
Oh God just go away...go away.
You would think this would just be embarrassing. It's like seeing Huckabee during the primaries each presidential cycle. You lose again and again. Take the hint.
let her run, go for it Hill
She won't win.
That's right, won't win. Not even in N.Y.C.
For one (but not the only) reason ...
How many Bernie supporters are there in NYC.
How many of them will vote for Hillary?
Let her run.
With their hearts they turned to each others heart for refuge
In troubled years that came before the deluge
*Jackson Browne, 1974, Before the Deluge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SX-HFcSIoU
Wasn't NYC one of the Epicenters
for the disappearance of voter registration records of suspected Bernie voters back in the primaries? Just asking.
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It was.
But the Russians did that. You heard it here first.
/snark
You've got to be shitting me.
OH Gawd...
I suppose she has to have some reason to trot out all those pantsuits.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
that's my own photo, I like it and I took it early on
at a demo on Freedom Plaza in DC at night. Don't remember exactly date and year (a couple of years) but it still shows how I feel about things.
https://www.euronews.com/live
That is Great!
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
Studies confirm We are not a democracy
From Princeton's Martin Gilens and Northwestern's Benjamin I. Page, who work with the nonprofit Scholars Strategy Network:
"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/princeton-scholar-demise-of-democracy-am...
It is easy to see, but rarely discussed in the corporate media landscape.
All the best Al. Thanks for the essay!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
What?!?!
"publicly contrasting her [Clinton] unfavorably to him [Trump]"
That's like contrasting the Devil you know with the Devil you don't know. I doubt any votes were changed.
Hey you jerkoffs, it's called "opinion"
Everybody's entitled to their own opinions, even a foreign head of state. You can't stop that, or suppress it for very long.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
I think what really did hurt Clinton's campaign
was the rising visibility of various high-information, anti-establishment websites, such as ZeroHedge, Intercept, MoA, and many others... including particularly, RT. These outlets have done a very effective job of countering various msm narratives and propaganda lines, by simply providing better quality (albeit oppositional) journalism.
US msm has assumed they could get away with pushing their coordinated, single-narrative, and very often distorted world view, forever. They were dead wrong. The fact that one of the most professional and best-financed of these anti-establishment sites happens to be a Russian State-sponsored entity has, I believe, got the US power elite extremely worried. Some of the very best American journalists (who could gain no traction whatsoever within the US media establishment) have been hired by RT and been given free rein to report as they will. To devastating effect, I think.
I also think this effect has been entirely intentional on the part of the Russian government. It has been something of a deliberate anti-USG-propaganda campaign -- albeit one that is buttressed by a great deal of solid investigative journalism. American corporate media, being so purely profit driven, soft, and shallow as it has been, seems old and stale by comparison. Not to mention the fact that has been caught propagating outright falsehoods, on more than a few occasions.
Well, as they say, all's fair in love and war... and this is equally true of the information wars we are currently engaged in.
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The beginning of the end of democracy
is and will be forever etched with assassination of John F. Kennedy. Certainly the most visceral expression.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
I was not quite a year old.
Got off to a bad start.
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