Jimmy Dore: On Chuck Schumer, The Death Of The Dem Party, And WTF Bernie

Jimmy gets a tad excited on this one (warning: generous use of the F-Bomb). He talks about: What the Dems learned from the election (hint: Effing Nothing!!); Dems picking Wall Street Whore Chuck Schumer to lead the Senate Dems; And gets on Bernie's case for going along with the whole charade.

Dem Loyalists are not gonna feel much love on this one. Biggrin

Length: 11:10

Update: 11/18
This Intercept piece on Schumer hits the highlights of Schumer's career.
Chuck Schumer: The Worst Possible Democratic Leader at the Worst Possible Time

He possesses the same impressive political acumen as Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, sagely explaining “For every blue-collar Democrat we lose in western Pennsylvania, we will pick up two moderate Republicans in the suburbs in Philadelphia, and you can repeat that in Ohio and Illinois and Wisconsin.”

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

I wish him luck. Hey I guess a miracle could happen.
But I no longer trust or listen to him. Or Warren for that matter.

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

Waiting for Bernie to actually fix the Democratic Party will achieve about as much as the too-common "conservative" radical put down of "expecting free things" being realized in those same "minds" - it won't happen, no matter Bernie's intentions.

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Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

via moving it leftward, for over 40 years.

The Democratic party hasn't moved left once in that time.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Amanda Matthews's picture

to get a pass on all the really sleazy things she's done, and all her failures (which generally mean hardship or even death for some defenseless human being) help Progressives in any way, shape, or form? Blatant hypocrisy is not going to win anyone over to his side. It's apparent that he is now supporting the Democratic Party 'establishment'. So what does he really believe? Either he told the truth about what he believes and who he stands with when he started his campaign, or he's telling the truth now and he' supports the elitist Democratic establishment and the Clinton creature. He's not getting a do-over. Either there's a 'Better Way' or there's the same old same old way of running this country by and for the benefit 'New Democrats and TPTB. You can't have it both ways because TPTB have decided that we're nothing but a slave labor force and cannon fodder.

People want a woman president AND someone who's honest and supports the 99%? Then start looking at Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii. She's who we should start promoting. She resigned from the DNC when she saw how corrupt it was. Forget Sanders and Warren. Get behind someone who's actually shown that they will stand up to corruption, not that they'll accept it if that's what it takes to protect their own position and pad their own nests.

EDIT: Deleted a 'the'.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Cant Stop the Macedonian Signal's picture

You knocked it out of the park on this one.

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"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha

"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver

Amanda Matthews's picture

I imagine there are others like Gabbard out there, I just don't know who they are. And then you always have to wonder 'can I trust this person'? I understand about 'self-interest' and that we all tend to veer in that direction (some way more than others) so we'll never have the perfect candidate. not everyone is Gandhi (Mahatma, not Indira). And even Gandhi had his 'quirks', so I've read. But we've go to do better than we have been since Slick Willie. Although I will never understand how we ended up running someone so flawed and corrupt as Slick's wife. That's just nuts.

I wonder who others think would be good candidates of the truly PROGRESSIVE type? We talk about the negative baggage that goes along with those on the left (I admit, I do that a lot), but you don't hear a whole bunch of positive points. Is that because we have so few out there?

This election, to me, is comparable to the magnetic pole shifting from North to South (which is pretty much where we seem to be heading). Or down is up. Especially after Sanders big shift to the Dark Side.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

Giving Warren and Bernie the benefit of the doubt, are they trying to work within the party to change it? Maybe they are waiting for some critical moment to get a significant win for progressive policies? With the Clinton's leaving the national stage hopefully, maybe their corrosive corporatism will allow the party to make significant movements to the left? Maybe the Clintonistas will have less control over money distribution? A recent post in Huffintonpost revealed that state democratic party officials in WI said the national campaign did jack shit for them--they begged to get some help in Milwaukee where low voter turnout was critical to losing the state. HQ refused to shell out money to get paid operatives.

So even with the best of intentions, can the democratic party be significantly reformed and transformed? At this point, I think not. I am afraid that the powers in the party will use people like Warren and Sanders as lipstick on a pig presenting them as the new faces of the democratic party while the same old shit in the backrooms.

As an aside, it seems that a growing rational among Clintonistas is that Bernie was one of the leading causes of Hillary's loss. Bernie should watch is back a lot as the Clintonistas will want to avenge Hillary against Bernie and of his BernieBros.

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Warren and Sanders..."

You can only be 'used' if you allow it.

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I'm tired of this back-slapping "Isn't humanity neat?" bullshit. We're a virus with shoes, okay? That's all we are. - Bill Hicks

Politics is the entertainment branch of industry. - Frank Zappa

riverlover's picture

That may contain a tell. Or a tale.

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Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.

Was released on 11/16

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Citizen Of Earth's picture

It's available for purchase.
I'm waiting to hear what a real journalist says about the book.
But here's the first review link I saw on google.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/7-highlights-from-bernie-sanderss-new-b...

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Donnie The #ShitHole Douchebag. Fake Friend to the Working Class. Real Asshole.

A Schumer-led Dem party seems much easier to go 3rd party on, when they inevitably adopt their "let's find a way to lose this one" strategy.

Cue the calls for centrism and compromise in 3, 2...

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The guy who voted for the Iraq war and the Patriot Act, took the most money from Trump of all the Dems, voted against the Iran deal, and was Clinton's mentor is the best guy to lead the resistance. Don't piss on our heads and tell us it's raining, you sellout.

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On infrastructure spending, child tax credits, paid maternity leave and dismantling trade agreements, Democrats are looking for ways they can work with Mr. Trump and force Republican leaders to choose between their new president and their small-government, free-market principles. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York, elected Wednesday as the new Democratic minority leader, has spoken with Mr. Trump several times, and Democrats, in coming weeks plan to announce populist economics and ethics initiatives they think Mr. Trump might like.

The Inauguration Is More Than Two Months Away, and Senate Democrats Are Already Selling Out

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Yes Schumer is an asshole and establishment dem in the worst and wrongest way and will be about as useful to us as a pregnant cow on crutches.
Bernie, imo, has always had a compass in his head about where morality as he see it exists and how he tries and has tried to point in its direction. And, again imo, it lead him astray when it came to Hillary. He did not use ANYTHING but the speeches to wall street against her and her lack of good judgment. He certainly could have but he must have believed that he should not damage her too much because he also thought she would win the primary.

He used the political leverage the voters gave him to bolster the platform. And right there was a problem in that Hillary never really cared about the platform. Nor did she give a great fucking damn about his voters (which she made plain over and over). Now seeing Trump in action giving every bad mouthing racist and brain dead gooper jobs in his cabinet I can believe that Bernie saw him more clearly than did a lot of us even though none of us liked Trump (or at least most of us didn't.)

My thinking is this, however: With Trump people are more aware and more active politically than they would ever have been with Hillary. We sat back and let Obama continue the forever war, target whistle blowers and do his ugly drone bombing of civilians and women and children and bombing of hospitals and Doctors without Borders without even a fucking whimper. And even dems now as they should have been before the primaries are being targeted for protests. That, imo, is a frickin' plus even as it comes with such a high price tag.

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