Open Thread - Wednesday November 18, 2015

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Now for today's Open Thread. I will begin with the chit chat part.

When we left for Florida and my high school reunion on November 3, there was still plenty of fall color in town and in our yard. This year was a very good year for fall color in this part of North Carolina, probably one of the best in the ten years we have been here. The green Japanese maple in our front yard is always spectacular, painted in brilliant oranges every year. It was just peaking when we left.

While the fall colors had peaked at the upper elevations along the Blue Ridge Parkway during the third week of October, the colors in town were still very nice. I knew that when we left, there was a good chance all the leaves would have dropped by the time we returned so I drank in the beauty of fall as much as I could, particularly along our drive south.

There are several routes for us to go south, and all are along rural roads leading to South Carolina. We always choose to go via US 276 because it is such a scenic road to travel on. It is slightly longer than alternative routes, but you cannot beat the scenery, particularly on the South Carolina side. US 276 is a very winding and steep road that climbs up Cedar Mountain on the North Carolina side where it runs along a ridge line for a couple of miles through the community of Cedar Mountain. It then crosses the Eastern Continental Divide which also is the border between North and South Carolina at this location, and passes Caesar's Head State Park before making its way down the very steep and twisting road on the South Carolina side.

Many here may be surprised to learn that the South Carolina side of this mountain is actually steeper and more twisting than the North Carolina side. There are not many mountainous areas in South Carolina, but this one is one of the most beautiful. The leaves on the North Carolina side of the mountain were already finished, but there was still quite a bit of color on the South Carolina side. We knew that this would be the last of the 2015 color that we would be seeing so we just really took it all in.

When we returned on November 11, all the leaves were down and it looked like the trees were ready for winter. Then I remembered that I had not checked the ginkgo tree on the far side of the yard. It is hidden from view from the front and the street. When I looked at it, there it was, all decked out in a profusion of chartreusey yellow leaves. We got back just in time to see the last remnant of the fall color in our yard and it was gorgeous. The picture below is not our tree, but simply one of a ginkgo in its fall colors. Our tree is much larger. Unfortunately, there is no way I can get a clear shot of our tree due to the surrounding vegetation
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Now for the serious stuff.

Today I am going to feature what I consider a very important discussion about US special operations troops in Africa. The war on OF terrorism is being expanded to everywhere. Africa is resource rich with many governments unstable due to a variety of reasons. The use of special operations troops in Africa is another attempt by the US government to head off the Chinese from gaining a foothold in this continent. The video is from Democracy Now! in which Amy Goodman and Juan Gonzales interview journalist and author Nick Turse.

This year, special ops have been sent to a record 147 countries—75 percent of the nations on the planet. It’s a 145 percent increase from the days of George W. Bush. And it means that on any given day elite U.S. forces are on the ground in 70 to 90 countries.

Part 1 of the Nick Turse interview.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXUuaOZbV7s]

Part 2 of the Nick Turse interview. I could not find where this video was posted, so I am linking to the Democracy Now! website for this interview.

The world is a battle field for the US government and people all over the world are paying a very high price for the actions of our government. No wonder they hate us.

Yesterday, Nick Turse posted this article at Tom Dispatch.

Within the above link, you will see just how omnipresent the US military presence is on the continent of Africa.

For this site in these last years, Turse has regularly revealed much that has been out of sight when it comes to Washington’s expanding military focus on Africa, including the cascading number of U.S. military missions across that continent, a similar spike in missions to train proxy forces there, and soaring deployments of U.S. Special Operations forces -- that secret military-within-the-military of 70,000 that now thrives solely in a world of shadows. It took a year of his efforts, but today he finishes off his portrait of the garrisoning of a whole continent in a new way with a look at the basing policies of U.S. Africa Command. It’s a piece that couldn’t be more important or hard-won, and it offers us our first look at how a continent is being prepared for what Turse, in his latest book, has called “tomorrow’s battlefield.”

I urge you to read the link to TomDispatch immediately above.

What is on your mind today?

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LapsedLawyer's picture

Hyper-militarism, global climate catastrophe, massive socioeconomic disparity.

Naomi Klein says the impending global climate catastrophe changes everything, but I disagree (sort of). Focusing on it can certainly illuminate the other two legs and demonstrate how each contributes to the third, but in my mind the first leg I mentioned -- hyper-militarism -- illuminates why the other two are with us: Hyper-militarism is the expression of the grab for the gold, the control of resources and land, to use up as quickly and as profitably as possible. Hyper-militarism is the expression of a system of its interests in gobbling up as much as it can as quickly as it can.

And lastly, but by no stretch of the imagination the least, hyper-militarism is the ultimate expression of material gain over the lives and welfare of people. And that systemic problem is endemic to an economics that has never valued community, harmony, and peace to any particularly great extent.

That was on my mind.

So was this -- my shock over this diary, not only because of who wrote it, but because he says nothing to explain his 180 from these other two diaries here and here. As per usual, OPOL summed it up best.

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"Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it."
-- John Lennon

gulfgal98's picture

Yes, today's diary by teacherken was mind boggling. I could not make myself wade all the way through it.

The globalization of our military presence throughout nearly every country in the world is staggering and the only reason for it is to set it up for more resource grabbing by the super wealthy. To them, people are commodities at best, or collateral damage at worst.

Thank you for your very insightful and thought provoking comment.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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to feel safe, ie that means accepting US special forces no matter in which corner of the world. The civilians might hope to be protected from being killed by assholes and the higher-up military ranks and government officials in those countries get their "rewards" to allow the Special Forces do the job, their own military might not be able to handle by themselves and rather accept the US forces doing the job for them than doing it themselves, especially when the shooting gets hot.

I watch very skeptical the plans to apparently send German soldiers to Mali to support the peace keeping efforts of France there, freeing French troops for fighting against ISIS.
France may get more EU help in Mali or Iraq than Syria
Attacks on aid groups, rising crime isolate neediest in Mali - agencies

Progress made at a political level has not been reflected within communities, where tension and fighting continue to force people to flee their homes, said Muriel Tschopp, Mali country director for the Norwegian Refugee Council (NRC).

"Those at a community level do not see what they are getting from the peace deal and there is a severe increase in criminality ... when one security aspect improves in Mali, another gets worse - it is a vicious cycle," Tschopp said.

Some 60,000 people are uprooted in Mali, while there are 138,000 refugees in Burkina Faso, Mauritania and Niger, OCHA said.

Thousands have fled tribal fighting, lawlessness and food shortages in recent weeks, and the number of Malian refugees in Niger is now the largest since Mali's conflict erupted in 2012, the U.N. refugee agency said last week.

Conflict in Mali erupted in 2012, when a loose coalition of separatist rebels and al Qaeda-linked militants swept across the north of the country before a French-led military intervention in 2013 drove them from the main towns they had been occupying.

The U.N.-brokered June peace deal excluded Islamist fighters, some linked to al Qaeda, who have continued to carry out sporadic attacks despite the presence of some 3,000 French troops and several thousand U.N. peacekeepers in Mali.

I am not in the mood to read more right now. Need to think about something more positive. I heard people talk on NPR this morning and I couldn't believe what I has heard.

Thanks for the OT diary, Nick Turse's new book is ... on my stack of books to be read.

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Hypermilitarism is going to lead us to a few fights that are quite unwinnable. Global Climate Change being chief among them.

Teacherken's diary over at the GOS was one of the worst things I've read from a diarist I respected. Sure, I didn't agree with his incredulity and faith in some institutions, but that piece was an ambling mess just to justify a horrible choice and trying to sound intelligent while doing it.

I remember the Primary Wars of 2008. It got nasty back then, but at least it was a nasty that I could begrudgingly respect in some sort of sick way. This time around, the whole arrogance of the Clinton folks infuriates me to a degree that I can't remember. The whole "bow down" thing...irks me to no end. It's as if they expect dissenters to simply accept defeat and submit to whatever the hell they're supporting.

The whole "winning for winning's sake" is not a good enough reason for me to vote for somebody. I keep on asking, "So she wins--then what?" And all I get are crickets. Because they can't honestly believe she'll keep up to her promises. Didn't these people learn from Obama? Has the Democratic Party partisans who are in the know so cowed by losing local and statewide elections that they'll willingly sacrifice all principles just to have a win at the top--even if that candidate doesn't espouse what the Democratic Party used to stand for?

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You have a great way with words, cybrestrike. This paragraph really summed up what I was feeling when I read it, but couldn't quite articulate it.

Teacherken's diary over at the GOS was one of the worst things I've read from a diarist I respected. Sure, I didn't agree with his incredulity and faith in some institutions, but that piece was an ambling mess just to justify a horrible choice and trying to sound intelligent while doing it.

He actually said this too. Is this really a positive?

She has been around power and privilege at least since she headed off to Wellesley as an undergraduate.

Thank you for your comment, cybrestrike. Good

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

MarilynW's picture

the promised winter storms, floods and droughts will put it in first position. The Syrian upraising was caused by global warming - a serious drought led to high food prices and hunger. That's what triggered the uprising. It's actually hard to separate the issues of your troika because they are so inter-related.

I skimmed "this diary" and was floored by the pomposity of it. Because of his own personal contacts and experiences he promotes Hilary the hawk?
There's no objectivity there.

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To thine own self be true.

Pompous - omg....

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

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with his comment above!

Pomposity indeed!

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as he is a teacher who hates the privatizing of schools, testing, and all the no child's ass left behind,the Clinton/Bush agenda. Arnie Duncun is a Clintonite, as well as Rahm, who really did a number on Chicago's school system. Corie Brooker is another neoliberal privatize the school's guy. Then there is the fact he's a Quaker, I thought Quakers were peaceable people? Who knows maybe like TomP annd Turkana he just lost his mind entirely.

Shocked me. Marilyn is right it was pompous and not at all liberal. I'm starting to resent the word 'progressive'. Actually I never liked it as I always thought it was a way to avoid the Bushie era dirty word 'liberal'. I had RW relatives and acquaintances who used to say 'You liberals are ruining the country blab blab blab.' Not anymore as they aren't religious fundies and now like me bemoan the lack of democracy and the reeking corruption.

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When there is no argument but you'd like to dress it up to look intelligent use full names, titles, capital letters, as in "Former First Lady, Senator....blah blah...Hillary Rodham Clinton".

All that does, though, is draw attention to obsequiousness. "Yes, m'lady". "Yes, your ladyship".

The gist of his reasoning: She's ready to be President. Because she proved it in an SNL cameo!

I couldn't get through the comments, both because the new format makes it more difficult than before and because it's a form of torture to read the usual.

Perhaps he and Turkana can be friends now.

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Turkana used to be different. What happened?

Your comments contribute to my enjoyment of the day. I thoroughly enjoy your way with words.

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"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon

gulfgal98's picture

behind the Gates.

Turkana used to be different. What happened?

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

god some people sell cheap..

If you are a pootie person, you will love this. Magnifico outdid himself with this.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2015/11/18/1451676/-Fellow-Woozle-Suppor...

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Armando being the main one. He always prided himself with being 'in the middle' and used to write great let's all get along folks diaries. I think Turkana and Armando are unwilling to face what they are identifying with. Like the Bush dead enders they cannot bring themselves to deal with what the so called moderate Third Way asshole that own and run the Democratic party are about. Just my theory. In 2006 when I joined dkos Armando was one of the first people there to reply to my comments and he was always willing to argue intelligently with me. I believe his reply was on the subject of Impeach! he replied 'Delusional'. I really liked Armando. He wrote with Seneca Doane (Major Danby) and others a great series about the Constitution that I bookmarked and still read occasionally.. We parted ways at Docudharama, when he took himself off in a snit about racism. People do change, thank god, but sometimes they retreat into the Delusional! as Armando said.

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enhydra lutris's picture

Colonization and imperialism enslaved whole populaces.
Capitalism's goal is to enslave entire classes of people in place.
Capitalism + imperialism + militarism + economic colonization + hyper-policing & the security state intends to enslave all of humanity.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

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as though this is where it all is heading.

...intends to enslave all of humanity.

Or perhaps we are already there and just do not totally realize or accept it.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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All of that is such a forgotten land to me. It twists and turns back on itself in a loopy labyrinth of situational ethics, denial-based narcissism, voluntary abuse, and cognitive surrender. It is very sobering to behold after all this time. Mercy. Even more unfortunate, there is still no sign anywhere of a moral compass to light the way. No constancy. No vision of the ideal. Nothing to protect the labyrinthian travelers from the loud battering wings of soul-destroying hypocrisy.

That is to say, I had especially forgotten the dreary, droning, dungeonesque writing styles that I carefully avoided, lest I drop into a soporific coma.

Thanks for the memories, albeit, too risky to read and rife with belly-button lint.

I'm serious.

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despite what your chart says. Every time there is a terrist's are gonna kill yer family' attack on the 'civilized' West lot's of people go lizard brain and start thumping their dark primordial chests. In the aftermath of 9/11 I was horrified at a lot of my Democratic liberal neighbors response. Scary that. Chickens coming home to roost, is what I thought about 9/11. Why kill and destroy the ME when for centuries in one form or another the 'west' has been fucking with them. Don't they teach history anymore or is it sort it out for yourself folks? They did not teach me about what has gone before to cause this latest killing field in the ME. I had to connect the dots and read about it on my own. The truth is out there. It seems these dark days people in the West would rather suspend their belief and resort to vengeance is mine and violence as it's hard to look at what we in the civilized west have wrought. White hat mythology is strong and freedom rings. Let's bomb the hell out of those barbarians cause they hate our freedom.

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Get a job, hippie!

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Mr. Clarridge, described by Mr. Carson’s top adviser, Armstrong Williams, as “a mentor for Dr. Carson,” is a colorful, even legendary figure in intelligence circles, someone who could have stepped out of a Hollywood thriller. He was a longtime C.I.A. officer, serving undercover in India, Turkey, Italy and other countries, and sprinkles his remarks with salty language. During the Reagan administration, he helped found the agency’s Counterterrorism Center and ran the C.I.A.’s Latin American division.
Indicted on charges of lying to Congress in the Iran-contra scandal (he was later pardoned), Mr. Clarridge today runs a private network of intelligence sources, including, he said, experts on Iran, China and the Middle East, who have all briefed Mr. Carson in phone calls or Skype sessions.
Mr. Clarridge, who contacted Mr. Carson nearly two years ago to offer his services without pay, has helped the candidate prepare for debates. But the briefings do not always seem to sink in, Mr. Clarridge said.
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... didn't surprise me. Unfortunately, I would say. It's always sad, when a certain instinct tickles your mind about someone, and because you are not capable and sure what to base your instinct feelings on, then suppress those thoughts. It's sadder, when your original feelings are confirmed much later in life to have been on the right track. There is nothing wrong with his arguments. But that wouldn't make the consequences of HRC's policies, if she became President and implements them in a way she announces now, more ethically or morally acceptable. I come home from the second debate with pretty much the opposite of conclusion than he does.

I should not make this comment. But it's getting at me that I should not make this comment. Too often I felt I had to suppress my thoughts and I can't deal with that anymore.

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I know exactly what you mean Mimi. The older I get, the less inclined I am to hold anything back. Because of this, I find myself practicing avoidance more - like with Ken's proclamation and Hillary diary.

The town crier can also be used to make public announcements in the streets. Criers often dress elaborately, by a tradition dating to the 18th century, in a red and gold coat, white breeches, black boots and a tricorne hat.

I just refused to read it. The title alone was pompous as all get out. I find his style off-putting.

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after I read Lapsed Lawyer and cybrestrikes's comments here.

I really do wonder how or why teacherken has decided to twist himself into knots to come to the conclusion that he is supporting Hillary. Never been a huge fan of teacherken's because I found many of his diaries were self serving, but he did seem to have some integrity. This diary was a new low for him. If he really cared about public education, then I do not see how he could support her.

There is a hell of a lot of selling out going on and it makes me want to puke.

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Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?

“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy

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and found him much more approachable and talkative than the one time I remembered having met him several years ago, at least six or seven years ago - don't remember - when he stared at me in a way that I felt uncomfortable, he didn't say a word and didn't smile, but stared me in the eyes that I was perplexed. I could only guess why. I don't want to say anything personable negative about him, he is a fine man, and I do think he has much integrity, just is not broadcasting on the wavelength I like most to listen to. He was above my pay grade to understand him at the last meet-up, at least, he was talking so fast and in low voice that I unfortunately couldn't really understand what he said. But he was much more humane and kind than I remembered him.

Concerning his diaries ... content wise not always that much of my interest. And what interested me about him, I found hard to pin down.

Tongue biting hurts. I rather follow your advice and avoid reading things I probably wouldn't be that exited about to begin with.

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An investigation is underway after four passengers - reportedly of “Middle-Eastern descent” - were forced to leave a plane after a fellow passenger reported so-called suspicious activity and alerted the crew.

Spirit Airlines confirmed that an early morning flight from Baltimore to Chicago was halted just before take-off and that four passengers were removed of an “abundance of caution.”
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The four individuals were being questioned by state and federal law enforcement officers, Maryland Transportation Authority Police 1st Sgt Jonathan Green told the Associated Press. Reuters said the passengers were removed after another traveller believed a woman was watching an Isis video.
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But reporter Suzanne Kennedy said it appeared suspicion was triggered when a woman got up shortly before take off and went to the back of a plane with a small child.

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A Muslim family home in Orlando, Florida was the target of gunfire on Sunday.

Amir and Nehal Elmasri told WKMG-TV that they weren't home during the shooting but when they returned home, there were bullet holes in their garage door. One bullet had traveled through the door, a wall and into a dresser inside a bedroom.

Mr Elmasri told the station, as well as police, that he was concerned that his family was targeted in the wake of the Paris terror attacks because they are Muslim.

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was punched and kicked and the hoodlums tried to remove her hijab knocking her to the ground.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/muslim-woman-allegedly-attacked-to...

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To thine own self be true.

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Russia is not on it.

This is too complicated for governments. 1 Syrian passport is being used to block thousands of refugees from coming to safety. (relative safety)

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"I don't want my son to look at me like I'm something less because I have to work for $7.25. And I bust my butt every day, and I take pride in what I do, gentlemen," Derrell Odom said in the video.

Odom, who works at Kentucky Fried Chicken, said that he served two tours in Iraq, was wounded in combat, and was awarded the Purple Heart. Now, he struggles to make ends meet.

"I worked 45 hours this week and my manager pulled me over to the side and told me that you can't have these five hours of overtime at time-and-a-half," Odom said. "She told me she was going to take my five hours and put them on next week's check so she wouldn't have to give me my time-and-a-half."

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There can never have been a policy that more governments are committed to achieving without actually trying to achieve it than the world’s so-called determination to “defeat Isil”.
Everyone is now at it - fighting Isil, that is: the Syrian and Iraqi governments, obviously, parts of whose territory Isil controls; within those failed states, a smorgasbord of local and foreign Shia militias, Iran’s Revolutionary Guard, two major Kurdish fighting forces and in Syria non-Isil anti-Assad rebels, including al-Qaeda.
Then there’s the Western allies - the air forces of the United States, Britain, France, Australia, who are bombing Isil in one country or both, with help from other European armed forces in various ways. Russia, of course, has joined in, proudly suggesting that in some way it is the only nation really serious about "defeating terrorism". Finally, there are other Middle Eastern states with a vested interest in preventing Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant’s caliphate getting out of control - Jordan, the United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Turkey are all active or notional parts of the coalition.
Isil are either miraculous fighters or - and this is the truth - the attempt to defeat them is a myth.
It is not of course a myth that all these actors are fighting Isil: the bombs the RAF is dropping are real enough, as are the massacres of Iraqi, Syrian and other troops whose battles have ended in surrender.
It is just that none of these actors has a plan to take Isil’s territory and capture or kill all its fighters, the conventional notion of defeating an enemy. Other priorities get in the way.
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bomb dropped and every drone sent? They don't want to defeat ISIS/ISIL.

Here's a list of 10 companies
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2012/02/28/ten-companies-profiting-m...

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