05/19 Open Thread - Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo
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~~ Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo
The US war on Mexico essentially ended in September 1847 with the fall of Mecico City, the loss of the Mexican Army, and the start of peace negotiations. It did not Officially end until February 2, 1848 when the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo was signed. Said treaty was ratified by the US on March 10, 1848, and by Mexico on May 19, 1848.The result of the treaty was that Mexico ceded 55% of its territory to the US and the US paid Mexico $15 million. The territorial effect was that Mexico gave up California, Nevada, Utah, most of Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona, a small part of Wyoming and all of its claims to an expanded Texas. It, of course, was not worded at all like that. What is did was establish a boundary between the US and Mexico that included the disputed "no-mans land" in Texas as US, and everything above that line was US. Later on, the US bought a 29,640-square-mile chunk of mostly southern Az for another $10 million in order to facilitate a railroad line. That was known as the Gadsden purchase and included, among other things, modern day Sierra Vista, Tucson and Yuma. I don't know what kids in the rest of the country learned, but the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo was part of the grade school curriculum in SoCal back when I was a kid.
On this day in history:
1051 – Henry I of France married the Rus' princess, Anne of Kiev. (Anna Yaroslavna of the Rus)
1643 – French forces decisively beat Spanish forces at the Battle of Rocroi, the end of Spain as a land power.
1743 – Jean-Pierre Christin developed the centigrade temperature scale.
1780 – An unusual darkening of the day sky was observed over the New England states and parts of Canada.
1828 – John Quincy Adams signed the Tariff of 1828 into law, protecting wool manufacturers in the United States.
1848 – Mexico ratified the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo ceding California, Nevada, Utah and parts of four other modern-day U.S. states to the United States for US$15 million.
1911 – Parks Canada, the world's first national park service, was established
1919 – Mustafa Kemal Atatürk landed, starting the Turkish War of Independence.
1921 – The US passed the Emergency Quota Act establishing national quotas on immigration.
1945 – Syrian demonstrators in Damascus were fired upon by French troops injuring twelve, leading to the Levant Crisis
1950 – A barge containing munitions destined for export exploded in the South Amboy, New Jersey, harbor, devastating the city.
1950 – Egypt announced that the Suez Canal was closed to Israeli ships and commerce.
1961 – Venera 1 became the first man-made object to fly by another planet by passing Venus
1961 – At Silchar Railway Station, Assam, 11 Bengalis died when police open fire on protesters
1963 – The New York Post Sunday Magazine published Martin Luther King Jr.'s Letter from Birmingham Jail.
1986 – The Firearm Owners Protection Act was signed into law by U.S. President Ronald Reagan.
1997 – The Sierra Gorda biosphere was established as a result of grassroots efforts.
2015 – The Refugio oil spill spewed 142,800 U.S. gallons (3,400 barrels) of crude oil onto an area in California considered one of the most biologically diverse coastlines of the west coast.
Some people who were born on this day:
Nothing is more precious than independence and liberty.
~~ Ho Chi Minh
1462 – Baccio D'Agnolo, woodcarver, sculptor and architect
1593 – Claude Vignon, painter
1616 – Johann Jakob Froberger, organist and composer
1762 – Johann Gottlieb Fichte, philosopher and academic
1857 – John Jacob Abel, biochemist and pharmacologist
1861 – Nellie Melba, soprano and actress
1871 – Walter Russell, painter, sculptor, and author
1889 – Tản Đà, poet and author
1890 – Ho Chi Minh, politician, resistance leader
1899 – Lothar Rădăceanu, journalist, linguist, and politician
1903 – Ruth Ella Moore, scientist
1914 – Max Perutz, biologist and academic
1919 – Georgie Auld, saxophonist, clarinet player, and bandleader
1920 – Tina Strobos, psychiatrist known for rescuing Jews during World War, resistance member
1921 – Yuri Kochiyama, activist
1924 – Sandy Wilson, composer and songwriter
1925 – Malcolm X, minister and activist
1927 – Serge Lang, mathematician, author and academic
1928 – Colin Chapman, engineer and businessman, founded Lotus Cars
1929 – Helmut Braunlich, violinist and composer
1932 – Alma Cogan, singer
1938 – Herbie Flowers, musician
1940 – Mickey Newbury, country/pop singer and songwriter
1942 – Gary Kildall, computer scientist, founded Digital Research Inc.
1945 – Pete Townshend, singer-songwriter and guitarist
1946 – Claude Lelièvre, activist
1947 – Paul Brady, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
1948 – Grace Jones, singer and songwriter, producer, and actress
1949 – Dusty Hill, singer, songwriter, and bass player
1951 – Joey Ramone, American singer-songwriter
1956 – Martyn Ware, keyboard player, songwriter, and producer
1967 – Alexia, singer
1968 – Kyle Eastwood, actor and bass player
1970 – Stuart Cable, drummer
1972 – Jenny Berggren, singer and songwriter
1974 – Emma Shapplin, soprano
1975 – Jonas Renkse, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
1977 – Wouter Hamel, singer and guitarist
1977 – Natalia Oreiro, singer, songwriter, and actress
1979 – Shooter Jennings, country singer, songwriter
1987 – Michael Angelakos, singer, songwriter, and producer
1991 – Jordan Pruitt, singer and songwriter
1992 – Sam Smith, singer and songwriter
1992 – Lainey Wilson, singer and songwriter
Some people who died on this day:
Any injustice to just one person represents a threat to all of the rest.
~~ Jose Marti
1601 – Costanzo Porta, composer
1795 – James Boswell, biographer
1825 – Claude Henri de Rouvroy, comte de Saint-Simon, philosopher and theorist
1831 – Johann Friedrich von Eschscholtz, physician, botanist, and entomologist
1864 – Nathaniel Hawthorne, novelist and short story writer
1885 – Peter W. Barlow, engineer
1895 – José Martí, journalist, poet, and philosopher
1912 – Bolesław Prus, journalist and author
1935 – T. E. Lawrence, colonel and archaeologist
1946 – Booth Tarkington, novelist and dramatist
1954 – Charles Ives, composer and educator
1962 – Gabriele Münter, painter
1969 – Coleman Hawkins, saxophonist and clarinet player
1971 – Ogden Nash, poet
1984 – John Betjeman, poet and academic
1986 – Jimmy Lyons, saxophonist
1994 – Jacques Ellul, sociologist, philosopher, and academic
1994 – Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, journalist
2001 – Susannah McCorkle, singer
2002 – Walter Lord, historian and author
2009 – Robert F. Furchgott, biochemist and academic
2009 – Nicholas Maw, composer and academic
2013 – Robin Harrison, pianist and composer
2016 – Morley Safer, journalist
2023 – Andy Rourke, bassist
Some Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days, Days of Recognition, and such:
Malcolm X Day (United States of America)
National Asian & Pacific Islander HIV/AIDS Awareness Day (United States)
Accounting Day
World IBD Day
National Hepatitus Testing Day (United States)
World Family Doctor Day
National Devils Food Cake Day
Today's Tunes
Jean-Pierre Christin
Johann Jakob Froberger
Georgie Auld
Alma Cogan
Herbie Flowers
Mickey Newbury
Pete Townshend
Paul Brady
Grace Jones
Dusty Hill
Joey Ramone
Martyn Ware
Kyle Eastwood
Coleman Hawkins
Jimmy Lyons
Susannah McCorkle
Andy Rourke
Ok, it's an open thread, so it's up to you folks now. What's on your mind?
Cross posted from http://caucus99percent.com
open thread, Guadalupe-Hidalgo, Centigrade Scale, Herbie Flowers, Pete Townsend, Grace Jones, Dusty Hill, Joey Ramone
Comments
War for land is a common theme...
In the SE we were not taught about the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo. The primary TX history was the Alamo, Sam Houston, and then the civil war.
Thanks for the OT! Be well.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Good mornng LO. Sorry to have missed the WW yesterday.
I would expect that Florida also came up a few times in History classes in the SE as well as Texas. Thanks for reading.
be well and have a good one.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Back when I was in college, a person visiting the southern U.S.
for the first time might be informed that, while there — just as a friendly tip re proper etiquette and how to play it safe just in case — it would be better to refer to “the War Between the States” rather than to “the Civil War.”
Good morning Lotl. I recall from H.S. US History that
there was something of a push to use that location as overall preferable, though the Public Libraries were still laden with books featuring "Civil War" in their titles. I was very familiar with that section since I did a term paper on certain aspects of said war.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Good morning, el!
We learned about the treaty in 4th grade, both in history and geography classes. Is geography even taught in public schools today?
I am enjoying my morning coffee with a lone doe. She is too far away to tell if she has birthed her fawn yet.
I hope you and everyone have an interesting day ahead.
Thanks for the history lesson and music, dear friend!
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
Good morning otc. Congrats on your idyllic coffee
setting. Except for birds, our visitors are all nocturnal. Don't know if goegraphy is still taught or not. It would be a real strain upon teachers, unless it was strictly US, trying to keep with all the constant change. The maps and globes budget would be terrible.
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Mention of a doe calls to mind the Austrian author Felix Salten
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bambi,_a_Life_in_the_Woods
Like the original Pinocchio by Carlo Collodi, the original Bambi novel by Salten has a lot more to it than the Disney version.
Marguerite Henry’s Brighty of the Grand Canyon, about a burro, also comes to mind. The chapter where — after a spell as the reigning alpha of a south-rim herd of wild donkeys, Brighty loses a battle with a younger male, is deposed, and has to slink back, defeated and alone, to the north rim of his youth — what a downer! That’s children’s literature for you, though — after the frolic comes the shock; it’s all fun and games and winning until the inevitable intrusion of merciless adult reality.
and then there's this --
be well and have a good one
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Droll! Good one!
The stereotypically bucolic strains of Grieg’s Peer Gynt Suite as background music are perfect!
I got Brighty of The Grand Canyon
for a Christmas gift. I think I was 6. I have had a lifelong love for burros and The Grand Canyon.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981
We were not taught
much about what the Yankees did either before or after the War of Northern Aggression (which most folks call the Civil War), but we sure as hell learned a lot about that.
My home town was 15 miles south of the Mason-Dixon line in Northwest Arkansas, and as luck would have it we were the westernmost flank of Sherman's march to the sea. The destruction resulting from that, and the Reconstruction that followed, made my town basically a third-world backwater- the town didn't get electricity until after WWII, for example. It wasn't rich enough to bother carpetbagging. And there were still Sherman's neckties everywhere, where the Union's fine soldiers had destroyed all the rail lines by ripping them up, building bonfires with the ties, and heating the rails in the middle until they could be bent...
They didn't want any of those uppity southerners getting any ideas about rearming, no sirree. Worked a treat, that did- it made it so that daily existence was really all that there was any time for, until well into the 20th century. Oh, and Klan meetings, because *somebody* needed to be blamed, and as we all know, shit runs downhill.
I grew up in one of the 3 houses in town that didn't get burned down during Sherman's little garden party. And yes, it did have several minnie ball holes in the walls, which we very pointedly never repaired.
So whatever the Yankees did before or after that wasn't really interesting to the rank and file in that neck of the woods. That state of affairs existed until there were new wars started that people had to go die in, side by side with the Yankees.
Needless to say, when I went off to college up in Yankeeland, it was a bit of a culture shock- I don't think my parents ever recovered from it. But I got better. And essentially all of my actual knowledge of US history came from my own studies of our many wars, and especially the Cold War, during my college career.
So the fact that the United States is all about all war, all the time, comes as no surprise. We've always been about death and destruction. I'm actually surprised that they didn't simply gather up everyone from the South and stick us all out in the big open-air prison camps at the far end of the Trail of Tears. That would have been the ultimate act of carpetbagging...
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Good morning UFS. Sounds seriously unpleasant.
Sherman's depredations were a strange mixture of seemingly pointless vandalism/terrorism, and cunningly thorough interdiction of "enemy" logistics. The whole country and likely the whole world would've been vastly better had that fracas been followed by some sort of Marshall Plan to actually reconstruct the industry, economy and society after the war was over. Of course, there were other things to do, like exterminate the indian and, before you could s and settle the west, wage a war on Spain and, iirc, some dust-up(s)? in South America and then WWI, so there really wasn't a lot of temporal slack to be do-gooding down around that whole southron zone.
be well and have a good one
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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
A few weeks ago, a
gecko got into a ceiling fan light in my secretary's office. Dear One saved the day, saved it. Today, I noticed a tree frog in one of the commodes in the office. Dear One got another great save.
His next task is to figure out how the hell they got in the building.
Mondays are strange.
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981