September 19, 2016 Open Thread, International Talk Like a Pirate Day

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 7:00am

September 19 is the 262th day of the year. There are 103 days left.

Today's number is 19

19 is a prime number (the eighth prime)
The only magic hexagon with more than 1 cell has 19 cells
19 is potassium
The metonic cycle is roughly 19 years and pops up in calendars throughout history; 19 years = 235 lunar months
A zero point hand in cribbage is called "nineteen" because no cribbage hand can have a 19 point score
The 19th hole on a golf course is the bar
A go board is a 19 x 19 grid

Title 19 of the US Code is CUSTOMS DUTIES

19 BCE was the Year of the Consulship of Saturninus and Vespillo
The Aqua Virgo was completed
The poet Virgil died

19 CE was the Year of the Consulship of Silanus and Balbus
Germanicus Julius Caesar died

On this day in:
1778 -- The first US budget was passed by the Continental Congress
1796 -- George Washington's Farewell Address
1870 -- The Siege of Paris began (Franco-Prussian War)
1881 -- President Garfield died of previously inflicted wounds
1893 -- Women won the right to vote in New Zealand
1944 -- Finland and the Soviet Union signed an armistice
1952 -- The US barred Charlie Chaplin from re-entering the country
1959 -- Khrushchev was barred from visiting Disneyland
1982 -- The first documented emoticons were posted to a university BBS by Scott Fahlman
1985 -- Tipper Gore and other women formed the Parents Music Resource Center to place warning labels on "bad music"
2006 -- The Thai military staged a coup, revoked the Constitution and declared martial law
2010 -- The Deepwater Horizon leak was purportedly sealed

Born this day in:
1909 -- Ferdinand (Ferry) Anton Ernst Porsche, engineer and businessman, as in Porsche.
1911 -- William Golding, author, poet, playwright, and Nobel Prize laureate
1918 -- Pablita Velarde, a painter from the Santa Clara Pueblo
1920 -- Roger Angell, journalist and author
1922 -- Damon Knight, author and critic
1927 -- Helen Carter, singer (Carter Family)
1927 -- Nick Massi, singer and bass player (4 Seasons)
1930 -- Muhal Richard Abrams, pianist, composer, and educator
1931 -- Brook Benton, singer, songwriter and actor
1932 -- Mike Royko,journalist and author
1932 -- Stefanie Zweig,journalist and author
1933 -- Gilles Archambault, journalist and author
1940 -- Bill Medley, singer and songwriter
1940 -- Sylvia Tyson, singer, songwriter and guitarist (Ian & Sylvia)
1940 -- Paul Williams, singer, songwriter and actor
1941 -- Cass Elliot, singer
1942 -- Freda Payne, singer and actress
1945 -- David Bromberg, singer, songwriter and guitarist
1949 -- Barry Scheck, lawyer and co-founder of the Innocence Project
1955 -- Rex Smith, actor, singer, and guitarist
1956 -- Juan Manuel Fangio II, legendary race car driver

Died this day in:
1833 -- Mary Jemison, a frontierswoman captured and adopted by the Seneca who later chose to remain Seneca
1843 -- Gaspard-Gustave de Coriolis, a mathematician, physicist, and engineer with a forceful personality
1881 -- James A. Garfield, general, lawyer, politician, and the 20th President of the United States
1949 -- Will Cuppy, a brilliant author and critic, wrote "The Decline & Fall of Practically Everybody" & "1066 And All That"
1968 -- Red Foley, singer, songwriter and actor
1973 -- Gram Parsons, singer, songwriter and guitarist
2003 -- Slim Dusty, singer, songwriter, guitarist, and producer
2004 -- Skeeter Davis, American singer & songwriter
2006 -- Danny Flores, singer, songwriter and saxophonist
2009 -- Arthur Ferrante, pianist, half of Ferrante & Teicher, masters of elevator music

Holidays, Holy Days, Festivals, Feast Days and such:
International Talk Like A Pirate Day

So, for music we gots:
Helen Carter
Nick Massi
Muhal Richard Abrams
Brook Benton
Bill Medley
Sylvia Tyson
Paul Williams
Cass Elliot
Freda Payne
David Bromberg
Rex Smith
Red Foley
Gram Parsons
Slim Dusty
Skeeter Davis
Danny Flores
Arthur Ferrante

Talk like A Pirate (Jenny)

Helen Carter

Nick Massi

Muhal Richard Abrams

Brook Benton

Bill Medley

Sylvia Tyson

Paul Williams

Cass Elliot

Freda Payne

David Bromberg

Rex Smith

Red Foley

Gram Parsons

Slim Dusty

Skeeter Davis

Danny Flores

Arthur Ferrante

Yes! Talk Like A Pirate! Please!

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Submitted by Hillbilly Dem on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 7:45am

What's a pirate's favorite letter?

If ye said "R" then ye'd be wrong. A pirate's favorite is the "C".

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 9:57am

The surviving writings of pirates that I have read were all

pretty articulate. I suspect that few pirates ever said "ARRRRRRR".

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Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 8:24am

I just finished talking with my 96 y/o mother, Argghh!

I have to gain a certain mindset to do that well. Alcohol helps but time does not permit. She has zero short-term memory and is losing the long term stuff in most-recent (20 years ago) to farther back (40-50 years ago) in order. Clinically interesting, but not from one's mother. She could not remember that we lived in the same house she currently lives in when my sister and I went to elementary school. I can express no frustration, just inform. And with current stuff, I must agree. She says it's cloudy, I look at wunderground for a site close to her, and it's sunny. That sort of thing. A near daughter battle. Daughter 2 is caregiver in the same city. She has difficulties being with mother, I have not seen either for over 2 years because I escaped to home and liver failure.

I am sorry to vent here, but places to do that are rare. You all are great!

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:05am

Ah, tough times, sorry to hear it. Hang in there.

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Submitted by Pluto's Republic on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 2:55pm

When sad things happens to good intellectuals:

Clinically interesting, but not from one's mother.

I simply wish you the best possible experience. An olde pirate once told me the secret rule for times like these:

"Always medicate ye caregiver first; then see to the patient."

Your friend,

Pluto

Submitted by pswaterspirit on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 3:41pm

I get it

I am sitting here with my 96 year old mother who I just had to convince we did not need to pack and go home. She has lived in this house since she was 25 but she is positive this isn't home. Now I am getting angry skeptical looks.

I am trying to determine if I have the internal fortitude to be her caregiver. I am thinking not..........

Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 6:33pm

we can hug together, mine also looks at her 55+ y/o house

as a newcomer with suspicion. It is not easy and there is no escape for us, other than death of mothers or us. There are days...

Feel free to PM me for further venting. It's safer than with others. Peace.

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Submitted by skod on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 5:54pm

Before my father passed,

my sister and I had to try to help him cope with rapidly worsening dementia and profound short and long term memory loss, secondary to a stroke. The most heartbreaking thing was when he would inevitably fail to remember that mom (his wife of 50+ years) had already passed, and he was often distraught with concern about where she was, and why he hadn't seen her for a day or a week...

It could be likened to the movie "50 First Dates", if it wasn't so darned painful to deal with. We would always tell him "We will remember her for you, always", and retell the stories to him- and then the next day we'd do it again. My sister was the close one, and I was half a continent away- so she really took the brunt of that load.

His dementia eventually really accelerated, and led to complete aphasia just a few months before his death. It was a very hard thing to go through, but ultimately his release from that struggle was a the greatest kindness that the universe could bestow upon him...

Hang in there. None of us were made for a job like that, but somehow we do it anyway.

And I suppose that, in keeping with the pirate theme du jour, it is time for a reprise of the immortal Henry Van Dyke poem that I read at his memorial service:

Gone From My Sight

I am standing upon the seashore. A ship, at my side,
spreads her white sails to the moving breeze and starts
for the blue ocean. She is an object of beauty and strength.
I stand and watch her until, at length, she hangs like a speck
of white cloud just where the sea and sky come to mingle with each other.

Then, someone at my side says, "There, she is gone."

Gone where?

Gone from my sight. That is all. She is just as large in mast,
hull and spar as she was when she left my side.
And, she is just as able to bear her load of living freight to her destined port.
Her diminished size is in me -- not in her.

And, just at the moment when someone says, "There, she is gone,"
there are other eyes watching her coming, and other voices
ready to take up the glad shout, "Here she comes!"

And that is dying...

Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 6:37pm

I have a common poem about that loss

descibing it as a bend in the River. Perfect for me with loss of husband, less good for my landlubber mother. But she did dive into old flooded stone quarries! I never did that. Too scary, not caught with the crowd.

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Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:12pm

I was the live-in caregiver

I was the live-in caregiver for my mother, who suffered from varying degrees of dementia due to drugs and bladder infections every time she was catheterized. Heartbreaking to see a parent undergoing such issues, especially when you can see that they're aware that their mind is not functioning correctly...

*sends sympathetic hugs both to you and your sister and healing thoughts to you and your liver*

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Submitted by DonMidwest on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 8:40am

What has happened to USA since 9/11?

Author of this piece was a State Dept employee given the task to audit what happened in Iraq. He published a book

"We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People."

That went over like a lead balloon in the State Dept. Here is a summary of what happened from wikipedia

Struggle with the Department of State[edit]
Prior to the publication of his first book, We Meant Well: How I Helped Lose the Battle for the Hearts and Minds of the Iraqi People in 2011, and after 23 years of service at the State Department, Van Buren experienced a series of escalating, adverse actions.[14]

These actions included suspension of his security clearance, confiscation of his Diplomatic Passport, being placed on administrative leave without cause cited, being physically banned from the State Department building, being placed on a security watch list, losing access to his State Department computer, and being reassigned to a makeshift telework position. The State Department also actively monitored Van Buren’s blogs, Tweets and Facebook updates posted during his private time on his personal home computer. Though the State Department at one point claimed Van Buren had not properly cleared his book for publication under Department rules,[15] this claim was later dropped when it was clear Van Buren did indeed follow the rules.[16]

After the Justice Department declined to pursue Van Buren for linking to a Wikileaks cable through his blog (perhaps a test case for the later prosecution of Barrett Brown for a web link), Van Buren’s termination letter came within days of a decision by the Office of Special Counsel, an independent agency that investigates government wrongdoing and complaints of retaliation by those who report it, to look into his case. At this point the Government Accountability Project and the ACLU stepped in to defend Van Buren on First Amendment grounds. Indeed, the Washington Post claimed "Van Buren has tested the First Amendment almost daily."[17]

After several months of legal battles, the State Department withdrew its intent to fire Van Buren and he instead retired with the pension and benefits State sought to take away from him.

He published a piece today on TomDispatch.com

It’s Personal
Apologizing to My Daughter for the Last 15 Years of War

There is an introduction by Tom and then the essay to his daughter which recounts how 9/11 was used for a take over of the government by the military and corporations. It is a trip down memory lane of what has happened in the past 15 years. It is good to follow the links just to see what is there as a reminder of what has happened.

I well recall arguing that invading Iraq would be a slippery slope, but it turned into a fall into the abyss

Tomgram: Peter Van Buren, Class of 2017 -- So Sorry!

Submitted by riverlover on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 8:59am

His apology to his daughter is clear-eyed sadness

How did we let this happen? I cried the day the US invaded Afghanistan. And then it expanded, along with the increasing surveillance at home. For what?

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 9:25am

WOW! Powerful.

Fear is a killer. We must shun fear. Now is the time. What are we waiting for?

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:10am

My first thoughts on hearing of the attack were:

"Reichstag Fire??". It doesn't matter either way, they manipulated and capitalized on it as if it were, and have been hard at it since day one.

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Submitted by RichM on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:43am

And the Shillary campaign...

Is chastising the millennials for not knowing what 'fascism'. They are well aware. They grew up in it.

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Democrats, we tried to warn you. How is that guilt and shame working out?

Submitted by skod on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 9:20am

Kinda dated now, but in keeping with the theme,

we have Jimmy Buffet and "A Pirate Looks at 40". A true parrothead won't care that a couple of solid decades have slipped by in the interim...

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:23am

Heh. Is it good or bad when your favorite pirate is

Willie Stargell?

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 9:48am

Aye, aye, matey!

The ships are blowing over the horizon, coming straight at us, but not to worry, the gummit is surveilling everything and everyone, so we won't be taken over by the Ruskies! All aboard! Uh, oh, they might be coming to make us walk the gangplank, matey!

Maybe I need to practice my pirate talk over the next 12 months.

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"The “jumpers” reminded us that one day we will all face only one choice and that is how we will die, not how we will live." Chris Hedges on 9/11

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:48am

Talk Like A Pirate Day

So, for music we gots:
Helen Carter
Nick Massi
Muhal Richard Abrams
Brook Benton
Bill Medley
Sylvia Tyson
Paul Williams
Cass Elliot
Freda Payne
David Bromberg
Rex Smith
Red Foley
Gram Parsons
Slim Dusty
Skeeter Davis
Danny Flores
Arthur Ferrante

Talk like A Pirate (Jenny)

Talk Like A Pirate Day -- and no Alestorm??!!?? Surely this is an innocent oversight! I will correct this right now:

[video:https://youtu.be/vfol_TLLnIw width:560 height:315]

[video:https://youtu.be/f55CqLc6IR0 width:560 height:315]

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"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 12:07pm

Thanks. Except for Pirate Jenny, of course, those artists

self selected by being born or dying on 9/19/somethingorother. As mimi notes below, Pirate Jenny is a must.

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Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:29pm

FSM love 'ya - thought of

FSM love 'ya - thought of Alestorm as soon as I saw the thread title and was looking down the thread for some postings of their videos - but could not recall their name. And seem to recall that I especially especially loved Drink, if I recall correctly and will find out shortly.

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Submitted by mimi on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:09am

old fashioned love songs of a (German) pirate bride/scorcher

times bygone - it's beautiful German language of Bertold Brecht

[video:https://youtu.be/Ec0clERjQ5A?list=RDaPG9GcykPIY]

[video:https://youtu.be/aPG9GcykPIY?list=RDaPG9GcykPIY]

[video:https://youtu.be/aSLTvKC-P3Y]

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Submitted by shaharazade on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:58am

Thanks mimi this is beautiful.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 12:00pm

Well, I did throw in the English version of the classic

"pirate jenny" tune above.

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Submitted by mimi on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:26pm

I am so sorry, el, the english version is much better even

and I just had not gone through your musical offers. I was supposed to do something else and just sneaked in shortly and wanted to say something fast. That's all that came to my mind. I listened to the German versions when I was thirteen to fifteen and loved it.

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Tue, 09/20/2016 - 10:41am

Don't know if it is better, but my Deutsch isn't up to the task

of comprehending it in German. It sounds nice to the ear in German, however.

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Submitted by mimi on Tue, 09/20/2016 - 12:01pm

Again, I am so sorry, el, I am used (or never get used)

to switching within languages, my brain can't handle well the separation of them. My son's father, who was a french/native language speaking person growing up, could separate English, French and German, all languages he was fluent in, written and spoken, never mixed one with the other. (So I know, I am the 'outlier" in that regard) I was known at my job to constantly address Americans in German and Germans in English, and people just shook their head and wondered what is wrong with me. I don't know either, something isn't workind as it's supposed to, in my brain, I guess. I also lose words a lot.

But then often I see documentaries or films (produced in English) in Germany at my sisters house, in the German translation version and I find myself shouting, oh jeez, that's not the way to translate it. The feelings of the words in one language expressed don't get well crossed over in the translations. Broadcasts then have a different flavor.

And then here in the DC area, we can watch German, Italian and French films (those crime detective stories) in the original language with English subtitles. My French and Italian is just
very basic and so I need some subtitles and some I don't. But it's always interesting to see how "they don't taste the same way" as they do in the original language.

Your essay just induced some sort of nostalgic memories to my highschool and student years in Berlin, Germany. I wanted to listen to my German language in that song. Sometimes I love some things of my German culture, it happens rarely enough. But those songs were some of them.

Hecate today had an Open Tummler describing the pledge to the flag and all that legal stuff surrounding its enforcement. I think that most people voluntarily tend to be loyal just to their tribe, family, ethnicity etc., not to something abstract like a nation. In a country like the US this is really a hell of a task, considering the tribal and ethnic mix of most people here and all the trauma of immigrants losing their cultural surroundings coming here. Like me, they don't forget their original "tribal" instincts from their youth. Your intellect tells you how stupid and wrong that can be, and people try to tell you how great America is, because of all that cultural mix etc, but I guess dna wise it's in us to feel attached somehow to our mother language, culture and ethnicity etc. The tribal stuff is within us, I guess, no way around it much. No matter how much it is needed and promoted and how hard we try to work on ourselves to overcome it and be fair and just and get along with everybody and trust "the other" the same as you "trust of immediatly know when not to trust" your own kind. We would like to be able to, but then, factually, we fail quite a bit most of the time. You can observe it online as well.

Enjoy the music !

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Submitted by enhydra lutris on Tue, 09/20/2016 - 12:46pm

I was deeply exposed, early on, to a polycultural, polyglot,

culture and raced to the fringes where those who enjoyed and had fun with it dwelled and count myself very lucky for that. Sadly, I never really became fluent in anything but English, but can poke at various others, especially with translation guides and such on hand. My normal approach, however, is far too informal and playful. As a kid, I was among those who were wont to speak Da kine pidgen spanglish with borrow phrases from german and french just to make matters crazier just for fun with my buddies. That probably doesn't translate very well into anything except to those who were part of that milieu, but, it is harder to say in normal english.;-)

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Submitted by mimi on Tue, 09/20/2016 - 2:12pm

my french, germlish pidgen is lacking, but I know

all those, who speak it, understand each other, no matter where. I heard it a lot on the markets in West Africa. And it worked for them, cross national, cross tribal. What more can you wish for?

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Submitted by mimi on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:11am

redacted - double post /nt

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Submitted by Shahryar on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:37am

on the subject of the Righteous Brothers

some people I know don't like the kids screaming but I love it. Here are the Righteous Brothers singing Little Latin Lupe Lu. That video up there in the essay, Unchained Melody, is sung by Bobby Hatfield. This one is both of 'em. Bill Medley is the tall one.

oh, and here's a Skeeter Davis song I like, written by Carole King and Gerry Goffin

and a pretty good version of this tune by Skeeter

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 12:17pm

Thanks. Actually, I prefer Little Latin Lupe Lou myself, and

picked unchained melody mostly because it was prominent and was not you've lost that loving feeling or he ain't heavy, he's my brother. It's my fault for searching on Bill Medley instead of the Righteous Brothers.

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Submitted by Shahryar on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 1:13pm

still, you can't go wrong posting "Unchained Melody"

even though it's been overplayed it's always a pleasure to hear 'cause it's so good!

Submitted by shaharazade on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:56am

Pirates huh?

And this old chestnut

Here's a song by a Somalian artist I like about pirates

Mickey and Sylvia -one of the best songs I heard on my very own transistor radio. May not be Ian and Sylvia but it popped into my head

Thanks EL I enjoy your numbers every Monday.

Submitted by mimi on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:32pm

the last one made me laugh :-) /nt

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Submitted by MsGrin on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:59am

How does a pirate say WTF?

U.S. mistakenly granted citizenship to hundreds of immigrants

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/immigrants-mistakenly-granted-citi...
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I think this may have just bought Trump 10 percentage points:

At least 858 people who had previously been ordered to be deported or removed from the U.S. were instead granted citizenship, the Department of Homeland Security’s inspector general announced Monday.
The mistaken citizenships were granted, the Department of Homeland Security explained in a press release, because neither its digital fingerprint repository nor the FBI’s fingerprint repository contain exhaustive records of individuals who have previously been deported.

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Submitted by hecate on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 12:25pm

what's the

problem? People are entitled to live wherever they wish. Nations do not exist. Human beings do.

Submitted by MsGrin on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 1:38pm

I agree with the sentiment

HOWEVER - what has just come out is that Homeland Security, under Obama, has admitted carelessness in selecting those whom they granted citizenship so that included rule-breakers. These are the folks those build-a-wall folks believe are ruining the country, so this will be a nail that Trump pounds for the next 50 days.

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Submitted by hecate on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 2:05pm

the

"build-a-wall folks" are racist fucks, and so I give not even a fragment of a shit what they think. They are larval. And their larval overlord, Herr Hairball, has all campaign been pounding nails that don't even exist, that are just shit made up. Watch, in the coming days, as, from out of The Hairball's mouth, and/or his twit machine, the number rises to 2,000, to 20,000, to 50,000, all crazed Syrians, with big swords, personally instructed by The Kenyan to go cut the heads off the white grandmothers in the walkers, the white infants in the cradles.

As for your Johnson link, below, he is a teabagging boob with a mind he himself describes as a "blank slate." Like all Hairball supporters, he just knows brown people are scary: they make him wet the bed.

Submitted by MsGrin on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 1:57pm

Why, here's what I'm talking about now

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/senator-mistaken-grants-of-u.s.-citize...

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Submitted by shaharazade on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 8:21pm

Ms. Grin, I feel like

hecate does about the racist Hairball fucks and about the racist fascist fucks who run Der Homeland Security. So what if The Hairball hits it hard to rope in the racist fuck vote? The Obama Democratic administration is horrific about immigration and the human rights of refugees, and 'illegal' immigrant's.

You know the people fleeing the hell on earth that America has created. I could care less who slips under their sicko radar. Your link made me sick. Where in hell am I living that both sides of the duopoly uses the people they deprive of basic human rights globally as a electoral chip to play when all of these freaking pols and their Gestapo agencies are racist, fascist, sick, fucks.

I listened to a show on my community radio station this weekend which featured the story of some 'illegal' woman and her young daughter from Guatemala who ICE had locked up in 'indefinite detention'' (forever?) in a for profit privatized deportation prison. She went on a hunger strike and they finally let her go if she promised to eat one apple. She got it in writing and lived to tell her hair raising tale. 'They let me go right away they we're very paranoid'.

Her treatment and her daughters in the detention prison camp was nothing but racist, sexist, inhumane and sadistic. Other than gassing or outright starving them it's the stuff of the the American Reich. So why get tweaked about DHS screwing up and letting 850 or so people in?

Why does the Democratic party play to the same tune the racist Trump supporters do and call it security? Oh right no wall just ship them back (eventually) and call them all threats to our security. Where and why do you think these so called threats and criminals come from and why do they flee? For me politics that play on the worst of the human psyche regardless of a worst evil is exactly what's wrong with this sick country.

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:48pm

Thanks for posting the link!

Thanks for posting the link! Followed it and saw this:

... The Department of Homeland Security Inspector's General report found those people were mistakenly granted American citizenship from countries of concern to U.S. national security, or neighboring countries with high rates of immigration. ...

Probably half of those are Canadians suspected of smoking the odd bit of weed...

But, yeah, inept - glad none of these guys has anything to do with horses. It's a good job for them that Hillary has helped to publicly sustain a cultural climate where American national security only matters in other people's countries and somehow involves making ever-bigger fortunes for 'business interests' at those citizen's expense. Although I don't think that 'national security' means what they think it does...

Edited to blockquote.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by Ellen North on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 10:37pm

Pardon me if I cheer - and

Pardon me if I cheer - and they'd better not retract it. Nice to hear of an official mistake that benefits the most vulnerable, rather than bleeding, imprisoning or killing them. Or attacking a hospital.

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Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.

A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.

Submitted by hecate on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 11:59am

i think that

to talk like a pirate these days, all you need do is ape how they talk in the business and the politics.

It is amusing reading people allegedly of "the left," like that disinformation artist "Tony Cartalucci," of Mind Destroyer Report, ceaselessly singing hosannas to the serial killer coupmeisters of Thailand.

Garfield was killed by his doctors. He was shot by a freelance lunatic: god told the guy to shoot the president after he was turned down for a government job. Doctors of the day, they did not believe in germs, so twelve of them stuck their fingers into the hole in Garfield's body. Then they rammed various unsterilized probes and instruments in there. Infection set in. The bullet had not pierced any vital organs, and had nestled behind the pancreas. If the doctors had left him alone, he probably would have survived. Instead, he suffered 80 days. One of the last cranks to abuse his failing body was Alexander Graham Bell, the telelphone man, who utilized something called an "induction balance," a sort of metal detector, to try to find the bullet. It's a grim and ghastly tale, and I wrote about it at length once, but I don't feel like reprinting it here.

A song from Rickie Lee Jones' Pirates lp, which retains its relevance, 35 years on.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jymywc4A1Cc]

Submitted by Shahryar on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 12:49pm

I don't think today's doctors are much better

still barbaric. At least they've stopped leeching. But some of this chemotherapy and drugs and such are hit and miss, curing some, killing others.

And then there are the surgery accidents where "oops, I slipped" become "complications" on the death certificate.

There's a scene in "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" where Colin Smith's dying father refuses to go to the hospital. "I'm not going to any hospital!" he says.

Maybe I can say that because I'm currently in pretty good health and because I've known people who were given experimental treatment with not so good results. I'd concede that there are some very good doctors who are tremendously helpful but if I did that it would tend to weaken my argument.

Submitted by hecate on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 1:11pm

actually,

they are bringing back the leeches. ; )

The doctors at least these days recognize some Obviousnesses like germs. But, in the main, and like the rest of us, they still work in the dark, doing what they can.

Submitted by shaharazade on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 8:27pm

'working in the dark'

for profit and for the 'Healthcare Industry' Big Pharma , and the Insurance global scam. Healthcare for profit is an oxymoron. Scienceman & woman has forgotten that healers and healing is an ancient art as well as just a matter of pathology with machines that go ping and tell you your DOA.

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 5:19pm

business and politics?

i think that to talk like a pirate these days, all you need do is ape how they talk in the business and the politics.

Arrrrr, now that be an insult to ye harrdworkin' honest Brethren Of Ye Coast, it be!

Seriously: look it up. Start here. Many an "honest" sailor "turned pirate" because of the raw deal that being an "honest" sailor was in the pirate heyday (1550 - 1750 CE). And the politicians and big business types weren't all that different from those of today, either!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 7:47pm

I pointed out in the TOP version of this that I side with

anybody who preyed on the Treasure Galleons. It was their just desserts to be robbed of their ill gotten gains, and that goes for their downright evil papal enabler too.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 8:38pm

evil papal enabler

and that goes for their downright evil papal enabler too.

The question is: did any Pope of this time have any real say in what he was doing? (See: Tudor, Henry, VIII.) The Habsburg Holy Roman Emperors (who were also either Kings of Spain or close relatives of the same) pretty much determined who got elected to the Papacy and what they did thereafter. The Spanish Monarchy was calling all these shots; the Popes just had to go along with it.

Which, of course, argues even more heavily in favor of our contention here: that those raiding the Spanish treasure galleons, especially the independent pirates, were the good guys!

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"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar

"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Tue, 09/20/2016 - 10:52am

Well, he did divvy things up between Spain and Portugal.

He had a bit more clout in those days than it might seem because excommunication.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --

Submitted by shaharazade on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 1:30pm

I sure had fun searching for pirates

this morning. Here's good and funny pirate king.

Submitted by enhydra lutris on Mon, 09/19/2016 - 7:34pm

Believe it or not, I had a version of that queued up as part of

the essay, somewhere before Pirate Jenny, and decided to skip it. It was a seriously inferior version that gave me the blahs. Thanks for posting this one.

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That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --