DNC Convention Livestream II

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WaveyDavey's picture

near small children. They're too young to know when an adult is lying to them.

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

No clue how accurate it is, but people are saying that HRC is going to show up at the end of Bernie's speech, just like Obama did at the end of hers in 2008. If that happens, all hell will break loose. I predict that there will be massive boos and walkouts. This is a very different situation from 2008, where the legitimacy of the candidate is in question and the delegates haven't even cast their votes yet. It would be a completely tone deaf move to make, which is why I wouldn't put it past her.

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...through their thick heads that 2016 is not 2008.

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riverlover's picture

I think I will rest my eyes (ears, for sure). See ya later!

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From OP-ED: On Immigration We Can’t Trust the Clintons

While it would be unfair to directly connect Secretary Hillary Clinton to her husband’s deplorable record on immigration, it is fair to say she cannot link herself to her husband’s popularity and presidency, while being free of criticism of his record on immigration and the border. This is especially true when Clinton, as first lady, worked against progressive immigration policies and in support of damaging ones.

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In anticipation of this massive exodus of farming communities, the Clinton administration implemented the deadliest immigration policy in American history. “Operation Gatekeeper” dramatically increased border enforcement along the Texas and California borders, driving immigrants toward the dangerous Arizona desert. Sold as a “deterrent” to border crossings, these “border security” measures not only ignored the humanitarian crises in Mexico and Central America, but created the deadly policy of sealing off the traditional border crossing points and pushing people to dangerous terrain, resulting in over 6,000 deaths, and many more thousands missing.

President Clinton’s 1996 IIRIR law set the stage for the criminalization of immigrants, the indefinite detention of immigrants, the growth of private prisons, the concept of self-deportation and the use of “secret evidence.” IIRIR also created of the notorious section 287(g) that funds the racist local law enforcement and detention made popular among immigrant bashers by Sheriff Joe Arpiao and intellectual allies like Kris Kobach.

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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass

It means nothing to Obama.

It means nothing to the Democrats.

It means nothing to their voters.

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“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”

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but their votes do...at least for a few months every four years.

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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass

snoopydawg's picture

it is for people trying to crossing the border into this country.
There are groups that leaves caches of water so people don't die from dehydration and the video shows how border patrol agents destroy them.
The video is 48 minutes long but well worth watching.
http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/34894-the-empire-s-war-on-the-border

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

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I was just telling my sister up in Canada about how many die in the desert every year as they are pushed to cross farther & farther east to escape the upgraded technology meant to stop them. Now the technology is no longer needed as the desert takes its own toll of "crossers" & those who do try are helped along by humanitarians that provide water & food caches for them through the treacherous & deadly paths they follow. Then I told her about the murderous fucks who search out & destroy the lifeblood reserves of food & especially water, not only to thwart the "crossers", but to murder them since after all, they are just dispensable "brown people".
There is a place in hell for those people, & I do hope they get there soon, since eternity starts the moment they arrive.
I shall send my sister the provided link.
Thank you.

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I`m already against the next war

Shahryar's picture

of "Tan Shoes and Pink Shoe Laces" fame.

"I got a boy and his name is Dooley
He's my boy and I love him truly
He's not good looking, heaven knows
But I'm wild about his crazy clothes"

these people are really awful. Absolutely unbelievable.

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a Hillary groupie from way back. Didn't run for office until she got permission from the Clintons. Now she gets a convention spot as a reward for loyalty.

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Mary Bennett

I campaigned for her run as a U.S. Representative. Gun-loving Blue Dog turned librul from Rensselaer County, NY, who was literally appointed the junior senator from New York by one of our many scandal-ridden, one-term governors when Hill left the senate to run for prez. She's an ass-kisser who worked for white shoe Manhattan law firm. Had similar career trajectory to Clinton's, without the constant scandals.

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snoopydawg's picture

Multiple diaries about Bernie's supporters of course l
One person wrote about how terrified she is if Trump wins and of course, it's an echo chamber in the comments.
Many are saying that if Trump wins it will be Bernie's and his supporters fault.
I'm sure that picking one of the most corrupt, mistrusted and hated candidate wouldn't have anything to do with the results, right?
People had the chance to elect the opposite of Hillary and that includes the DNC and most of the Democratic Party.
Instead, they threw that chance away .

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

They had eight freaking years to find a presentable, reasonable non corrupt person to succeed Obama. And its' our fault if Mme. Hill can't win?

What LOF stand for?

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Mary Bennett

They had eight freaking years to find a presentable, reasonable non corrupt person to succeed Obama. And its' our fault if Mme. Hill can't win?

What LOF stand for?

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Mary Bennett

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Insiders joke.

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...that if they don't want Trump to win then they had better make damn sure that Clinton gets more votes than Trump. it isn't up to us, it up to them. if they are in the blame game then they would have to blame every independent voter that doesn't vote for Clinton, not just disgruntled progressives, so that doesn't fly with me.

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Don't forget the "white privilege" canard. All the while failing to realize that Hillary is also white and privileged.

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They say that there's a broken light for every heart on Broadway
They say that life's a game and then they take the board away
They give you masks and costumes and an outline of the story
And leave you all to improvise their vicious cabaret-- A. Moore

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mimi's picture

at least something to be somewhat thankful for, a couple of minutes at least, though he is a clown who makes you cry, if you listen to him.

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Pricknick's picture

Fraken used to be funny.
Now he's a joke.
Another one of those more and better democrats.

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

There is no life and conviction in most of these speeches. None of them sound credible.

Check that, Al Franken's speech right now has a little life.

I'm wondering though who this person people are talking about who is dedicated to helping "other people" who aren't billionaires. Hillary Clinton isn't it.

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lunachickie's picture

along with all this bullshit, I'd be drunk off my ass whether I was With Her or not.

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lunachickie's picture

I'm sober, either. But to be fair, I've written some fair-paying words in my day while having indulged in some kush Smile

I don't find Al Franken skilled, though, if you were referring to him. I didn't get him in his SNL days either...

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Pricknick's picture

The sativa works wonders for me.
Peace

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Regardless of the path in life I chose, I realize it's always forward, never straight.

WaveyDavey's picture

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

janis b's picture

with staging Anastasia Somoza to contrast Trump's despicable reaction to the disabled.

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Nearlynecessary's picture

What a disappointment! I don't know what to say. Is nobody capable of standing by their convictions? Jeebus!!!

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WaveyDavey's picture

Then Franken just got ridiculouser. Bridge over troubled waters? Really?

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Kinda an apt metaphor, doncha think? Also, the bridge is collapsing.

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mimi's picture

with her explanation that to incorporate Bernie's platform before the convention was the best thing ever could happen to the people. Apparently not all agreed with her.
I mean the first time an angry reaction apparently on the floor with Bernie supporters making noise.

What is happening now? Paul Simon singing? To distract? I don't get it. No, that's not funny. Was that planned? OMG.

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WaveyDavey's picture

comedians they did a pretty shitty job and handling hecklers.

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Shahryar's picture

"I was a Berner but now I'm voting for Hillary because I'm not like you. You're ridiculous. Why am I for Hillary? Because you must be for Trump or a Russian. You're an Q#$^%%&. That's why I'm for her. Anything you have to say about her being a hawk pales in comparison to Jill Stein and her anti-vax views and everybody knows those who like Jill Stein are ex-Bernie supporters who like Putin."

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Anja Geitz's picture

conversion diaries that kept popping up at TOP.

Talk about ridiculous. The only ones who belived they were real, were already converted.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

riverlover's picture

Is there something in the air, infectious agent, prion? Or just a surrender switch in the brain?

In other news, I have to get my car in$pected (NY wants my money) and further get my actual on my head hair cut today. And dog gets her ovariohysterectomy on Thursday plus her RFID. Fun times.

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...for everyone, really.

Peace and love be with you, reader.

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mimi's picture

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Or maybe my ISP? it's taken 15 min. just to sign-in and post.
8:41 @ save.

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21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.

WaveyDavey's picture

There are 150+ people logged in right now, They might be watching the convention using the live stream link on this page.

I'm switching to the direct YouTube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePB39acAtA in hopes it will take some of the stress off the caucus99percent servers.

Hope it helps.

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The people, united, will never be defeated.

Shut down everything but c99 and tuned in c-span on sat. Still getting big delays. This reply (time stamps) is good example.

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21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.

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lotlizard's picture

three or four times — around 10 or 15 minutes ago.

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Phoebe Loosinhouse's picture

at least on my computer, while my other browsing has been normal.

About 150 logged in , but who knows how many lurkers there are? I remember that GOS used to slow down at times of great political impact, so maybe that's the case here as well?

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" “Human kindness has never weakened the stamina or softened the fiber of a free people. A nation does not have to be cruel to be tough.” FDR "

OLinda's picture

Yes, really struggling here too. I got a server problem page a couple of times. Other times, just really dragging and slow. Sorry to say it, but I have a backup tab to another site open in case we go down. (Video currently at top of page.) I want to see Bernie's speech.

Hope you're having a good evening, geez, in spite of the festivities.

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fistivities. ;}

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21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.

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shaharazade's picture

I watch for a couple of minutes and then shut it off. I've been watching the crowd outside and Reading what the people are saying there. Here's a video of a woman warrior who rocks.

https://www.facebook.com/claudia.stauber/videos/10208776020210828/

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Roy Blakeley's picture

Hope for something not completely depressing, but only find awkward, trite and depressing.

Thumbs up for the Claudia Stauber video.

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Anja Geitz's picture

Seems like we are all crying.

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There is always Music amongst the trees in the Garden, but our hearts must be very quiet to hear it. ~ Minnie Aumonier

Wall Street and Neo-Conservative. Charter schools. Big money Dem who does nothing for working people.

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What is this crap that America will rise . Trump said we're in the shit can, Obama said we're not, now Booker wants us to rise. What a perfect example of the Peter Principle.

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What is this crap that America will rise . Trump said we're in the shit can, Obama said we're not, now Booker wants us to rise. What a perfect example of the Peter Principle.

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I will take your word for that, but that speech sounded like he is planning to run for president himself in 2020 or 2024.

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Mary Bennett

shaharazade's picture

What he did to the school system in New Jersey alone should disqualify him from being a serious contender in a real democratic country. I just can't wrap my head around why any person with an unwashed brain considers these creepy Third Way Dems. to be any kind of lesser. Fear? If so it's delusional and misplaced.

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Alphalop's picture

ready to vote for Hillary.

Yeah, you guys got stories, unity this and that, Hillary is awesome, yeah..

The time for unity was before you shafted progressives in general and Sanders supporters specifically.

As I type this, Chants of WARHAWK going on in the background.

Yeah, I see unity happening... /s

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

WaveyDavey's picture

Will Bill Clinton go onstage and hug her? Uncaring minds want to know.

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mimi's picture

I can't remember any European event where politicians would talk like that. Booker outdid himself.I watch this like an alien who landed on a planet and is just flabbergasted about all that noisy "speeching". Propaganda ueber alles.

Can't help it. This is sicko.

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WaveyDavey's picture

The Republican convention was great. They spent more time talking about me than they did about their platform.

I think tonight alone, Trump's name has been mentioned more times than Clinton's was during the ENTIRE Republican convention.

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Shahryar's picture

If they do this right, Bernie will speak around 11 pm eastern. Terrific and typical.
It's ok for the West Coast people (like me) but wow....

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Alphalop's picture

Can I borrow that crystal ball for a minute? Smile

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"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me

Nobody seems to understand why Bernie's delegates are so pissed and why there's coordinated booing by so many people. Even Cenk and Ana don't seem to get it, although Jimmy is getting floor updates directly from delegates who are getting pissed that they're being told to shut up. I bet that the establishment will freak out when people start booing Elizabeth Warren. People have been waiting to give her a piece of their mind for a month.

It's amazing to me that they don't think that the mood of Bernie's delegates extends outside the convention, or that a majority of the people who voted for him feel the same way. They think it's just isolated to some radical fringe or something. They're all in for a rude awakening in November.

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speech was "We trusted you."

h/t @kgosztola

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mimi's picture

in her life ...

could that be a problem?

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featheredsprite's picture

from this convention and will just keep on climbing after that. So they will cling tightly to their darling Hillary.

I don't understand why so many people are willing to put so much at risk just so they can embrace Hillary Clinton.

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Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.

Does she really want the children of this country hear her curse the SS people? Does she really believe all the praise she's heaping on Hilary? Hard to believe. Nauseating, actually. Someone I've always looked up to.

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OLinda's picture

Bill being in the White House as she talks about examples for kids to watch. Wonder how long it will be before the first scandal.

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Watching Michelle now. Losing respect for the Leaders, the visible persons in our government by the second. HOW MUCH BULLSHIT ARE THEY GOING TO FORCE FEED US. Booker, Obama... Goddamn I am disappointed in what IS NOT THE GREATEST NATION ON THE EARTH...sorry to be yelling, but my dogs are worried about me... YES!! WE ARE FUCKED

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WaveyDavey's picture

Okay team, here's today's challenge. This is the message. Sell it. SELL IT!!!! Like you've never sold anything before. Make the judges feel like even you believe the lies you are telling. Blot the past two days out of your mind and sell it.

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mimi's picture

I don't agree with her over her judgment of Hillary, but she talks much more convincingly her heart out as a mother that Hillary ever could.

Michelle is quite strong here. Man, I do believe she can't wait getting out of the White House. Smile

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mimi's picture

-)

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MarilynW's picture

it ends up sounding sexist. In 2016 it should not make a difference "that a woman can be president of the US." If men and women are equal, it should not make a difference.

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To thine own self be true.

to fall in line and vote for Hillary. It's been happening all night, and now Michelle Obama is doing it with her whole "Hillary didn't pack up and go home" stuff. Do Democrats think that they'll get votes by poking the bear in the eye? The entitlement on their part is unbelievable.

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ArizonaProgressive's picture

But I agree that they are entitled. Warren is talking now. Total sellout. She says the system is rigged and then says vote for her highness.

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NotTrump.jpg

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

MarilynW's picture

She cannot defame him like that and not be sued.

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To thine own self be true.

Nearlynecessary's picture

It's very hard to watch this shit!

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the people from NPR are more disgusting than the puppets from Fox at the GOP convention

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the people from NPR are more disgusting than the puppets from Fox at the GOP convention

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Shahryar's picture

'cause where's Bernie? Maybe he'll talk at midnight eastern.

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mimi's picture

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WaveyDavey's picture

We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you. We trusted you.

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Christine.MI's picture

and now in my words to Elizabeth:

F*ck you.

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