Why I believe Marianne Williamson is an important voice.
Submitted by mhagle on Sun, 08/25/2019 - 11:57am
Bernie Tulsi Andrew Marianne
Here are the progressive voices.
This is such an excellent speech.
[video:https://youtu.be/bUMUYaeUOfs]
Interested in hearing your thoughts.
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Oprah's guru...
promoted by Obama wing corporatists to siphon off hippie dippie suburban Bernie voters.
Lofty New Age rhetoric notwithstanding, MAW's incrementalist position on Healthcare is all you really need to know about her true political leanings.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
spelling error
Not Henry Kissinger said:
There's a small spelling error. Allow me:
There. All fixed!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
I actually think the number 0...
in place of the letter O is pretty interesting.
Like they actually debated whether to capitalize Option lest some healthcare lobbyist be offended. (Notice they also did NOT capitalize Medicare.)
So, in classic CorpoDem drone style, they compromised around a consensus nobody could be blamed for - the purposeful typo.
Problem solved!
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Thank you, NHK.
I think she is a lightweight, an operator who found a gimmick. Her message is, I think, to lefties who sold out long ago: "You are forgiven, we all need to just love each other, the SUV with the Save the Whales bumper sticker is OK, never mind what some jealous meannies say".
I also want to know where she lives. Is this another environmentalist with a mansion and fleet of gas guzzlers?
Mary Bennett
Four minutes and fifty-one seconds
...... was all of Marianne Williamson's word salad I could take.
She's no Bernie Sanders or Tulsi Gabbard. IMHO, she needs to speak far more Laconically than she does here.
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
what I think
omg "an intervention"? Please let me pull out my Miss Nancy mirror again and show her the Democratic party responsible for all that alcoholic behavior she's referring to in the first six minutes. She's running for the D nomination for crying out loud, that represents the essence of sick co-dependency in my view. keep going
Marianne Williamson is a true blue Democrat. I won't become her co-dependent inside that drunk party, look at what they've done locally to the city, the state, the nation. Did she step outside that church and talk her esoteric talk to the street people? Is the suicide net up on the Golden Gate Bridge yet? argh!
Despite those harsh words, I will keep listening until the end and try to grasp what it is that mhagle and others see in her candidacy. Thanks
PEACE
Edit: Okay I'm done it took me all day off and on, and I'm glad I watched it. The problem is me! lol "The people who voted for Jill Stein are the problem" Marianne said going down her litany of complaints. Finally the nail has been driven home in my head and in my heart, I will never ever vote Democrat again as long as I live. She did it from San Francisco for me, so that is kismet I think. gratitude
My own hopes are totally dashed, oh well. I'd give my right arm for a political party that represented me. Thanks. right arm
Bernie Tulsi Andrew Marianne - are you kidding?
I cannot stop saying this. Yang is a fraud. His plan is to raise money through a VAT, which is a consumption tax, (and remember that the rich do not consume, they horde; it is the working class that consumes) and give that money back to the consuming class so that they can - wait for it - give that money to the rich. ("buy the stuff that I - actually the people who take my classes - make")
Yang is nothing but the corporate Dem version of Trump. Instead of "make America great!" he promises "free money!"
On to Biden since 1973
I think Yang's UBI is an oligarchs' trick
To keep the system functioning. I think Bernie's guaranteed jobs program is much better. We have too much to do to just give money away. We need to create a green economy, add teachers, park rangers, ecological restorers and so on. Pay folks a living wage to do the things we need to do.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/23/bernie-sanders-to...
As to Marianne being in the race to suck votes away from Bernie I can't say.
Personally I'm still supporting Tulsi, but I currently doubt any political solution to the conundrum we face.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
The only disagreement I have with Bernie
is that he lacks a long range vision. Yes we need more teachers and doctors and park rangers, but that means that we will have to learn to cope with only 70 or 80% unemployment in what, 10 years? Fifteen? And the way we burn carbon and produce toxins when we work in 5 or 10 years the biggest growth job will be grave digger.
On to Biden since 1973
It was a good idea back in the 70s, when the Irish guy from NY,
Now, to do any good, such a program would need to be combined with at the least, rent control and increased public transportation, and I think those two are a much more urgent need right now.
I would also like to know who is backing Yang. As it stands, his proposal basically amounts to a give away to landlords.
Mary Bennett
Young soldiers, airmen and women, sailors and marines
Mary Bennett
Well fraud is a bit
On the VAT proposal, most Euro countries have it, in the vicinity of 20%, sometimes more. Yang is proposing a 10% VAT to pay for his UBI.
A VAT iss better than a sales tax
but it's still a consumption tax.
On to Biden since 1973
Please explain, what is the problem with a consumption
Mary Bennett
The problem with a consumption tax . . .
is that spending declines with income. Wealthy people invest a significant portion of their income. At the other extreme the poorest among us spend more than they earn just to survive. A billionaire trading up to a yacht with 3 helicopter pads instead of 2 will still spend a smaller portion of income than someone who can't find enough money to fix a transmission. A consumption tax in and of itself is regressive. The more you earn the smaller percentage of your income goes to taxes.
There are ways to mitigate the regressivity of consumption taxes. One way is to make sure that the revenue is spent disproportionately on people in the lower income ranges. Another is to accompany it with other very progressive taxes. A large estate tax is a great way to stop the explosion of wealth at the top.
Yang's campaign slogan is an oxymoron
" In the beginning, the universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry, and is generally considered to have been a bad move. -- Douglas Adams, The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy "
Wasn't that Shrub's slogan?
Anyone digging that out of the compost heap deserves to not get elected.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Indeed.
Mary Bennett
To paraphrase
Elizabeth Warren, I'm not sure why Marianne Williamson, with her long track record of offering bold spiritual advice to millions, would be going through this long, difficult process of running for president just to propose mild, weak tea solutions on health care and to hint that we might need to continue for years more in Afghanistan.
I could say the same about Andrew Yang, and his disappointingly orthodox neoconish FP views in some key areas.
Yang has the most illuminated plan for the future
...which is why Americans cannot "hear" it. Too much noise in the brain, especially older brains. Thus, too uninformed to have any sort of meaningful conversation about it. Plus, they are extremely hostile about it. Some kind of trigger in the brainwashing.
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I was very surprised when some of my
...true blue establishment Dem friends in New York had much positive to say about Marianne Williamson. No one else broke through their Biden-all-the-way devotion. They happened to catch a brief interview with Marianne Williamson here or there, and something about her came through for them.
Just like your title, they would mention that they were glad she was in the race. I found it perplexing, and intend to pay more attention to this.
I appreciate all the comments!
I am glad she is in the race but do not agree with her on everything. Definitely.
Marilyn
"Make dirt, not war." eyo