Why I believe Marianne Williamson is an important voice.

Bernie Tulsi Andrew Marianne

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This is such an excellent speech.

Interested in hearing your thoughts.

I-m so happy

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Not Henry Kissinger's picture

promoted by Obama wing corporatists to siphon off hippie dippie suburban Bernie voters.

Lofty New Age rhetoric notwithstanding, MAW's incrementalist position on Healthcare is all you really need to know about her true political leanings.

"I robustly support high-quality universal health coverage for every American. I will do this by making medicare an 0ption (sic) on the Obamacare exchanges."

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Peace Sells

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@Not Henry Kissinger

Not Henry Kissinger said:

Lofty New Age rhetoric notwithstanding, MAW's incrementalist position on Healthcare is all you really need to know about her true political leanings.

There's a small spelling error. Allow me:

Lofty Sew Age rhetoric notwithstanding, MAW's incrementalist position on Healthcare is all you really need to know about her true political leanings.

There. All fixed!

Wink

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"I say enough! If Israel wants to be the only superpower in the Middle East then they can put their own asses on the line and do it themselves. I want to continue to eat."
-- snoopydawg

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@thanatokephaloides

in place of the letter O is pretty interesting.

making medicare an 0ption (sic) on the Obamacare exchanges.

Like they actually debated whether to capitalize Option lest some healthcare lobbyist be offended. (Notice they also did NOT capitalize Medicare.)

So, in classic CorpoDem drone style, they compromised around a consensus nobody could be blamed for - the purposeful typo.

Problem solved!

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Peace Sells

@Not Henry Kissinger I would really like to know who is backing her.

I think she is a lightweight, an operator who found a gimmick. Her message is, I think, to lefties who sold out long ago: "You are forgiven, we all need to just love each other, the SUV with the Save the Whales bumper sticker is OK, never mind what some jealous meannies say".

I also want to know where she lives. Is this another environmentalist with a mansion and fleet of gas guzzlers?

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...... was all of Marianne Williamson's word salad I could take.

She's no Bernie Sanders or Tulsi Gabbard. IMHO, she needs to speak far more Laconically than she does here.

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"I say enough! If Israel wants to be the only superpower in the Middle East then they can put their own asses on the line and do it themselves. I want to continue to eat."
-- snoopydawg

omg "an intervention"? Please let me pull out my Miss Nancy mirror again and show her the Democratic party responsible for all that alcoholic behavior she's referring to in the first six minutes. She's running for the D nomination for crying out loud, that represents the essence of sick co-dependency in my view. keep going

Marianne Williamson is a true blue Democrat. I won't become her co-dependent inside that drunk party, look at what they've done locally to the city, the state, the nation. Did she step outside that church and talk her esoteric talk to the street people? Is the suicide net up on the Golden Gate Bridge yet? argh!

Despite those harsh words, I will keep listening until the end and try to grasp what it is that mhagle and others see in her candidacy. Thanks

PEACE

Edit: Okay I'm done it took me all day off and on, and I'm glad I watched it. The problem is me! lol "The people who voted for Jill Stein are the problem" Marianne said going down her litany of complaints. Finally the nail has been driven home in my head and in my heart, I will never ever vote Democrat again as long as I live. She did it from San Francisco for me, so that is kismet I think. gratitude

My own hopes are totally dashed, oh well. I'd give my right arm for a political party that represented me. Thanks. right arm

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I cannot stop saying this. Yang is a fraud. His plan is to raise money through a VAT, which is a consumption tax, (and remember that the rich do not consume, they horde; it is the working class that consumes) and give that money back to the consuming class so that they can - wait for it - give that money to the rich. ("buy the stuff that I - actually the people who take my classes - make")
Yang is nothing but the corporate Dem version of Trump. Instead of "make America great!" he promises "free money!"

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A PROUD Hillary hater since 1993

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@doh1304

To keep the system functioning. I think Bernie's guaranteed jobs program is much better. We have too much to do to just give money away. We need to create a green economy, add teachers, park rangers, ecological restorers and so on. Pay folks a living wage to do the things we need to do.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/04/23/bernie-sanders-to...

As to Marianne being in the race to suck votes away from Bernie I can't say.

Personally I'm still supporting Tulsi, but I currently doubt any political solution to the conundrum we face.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

@Lookout
is that he lacks a long range vision. Yes we need more teachers and doctors and park rangers, but that means that we will have to learn to cope with only 70 or 80% unemployment in what, 10 years? Fifteen? And the way we burn carbon and produce toxins when we work in 5 or 10 years the biggest growth job will be grave digger.

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A PROUD Hillary hater since 1993

@Lookout I have forgotten his name, persuaded Pres. Nixon to introduce it to Congress. Nixon, as always, had mixed motives: the Rs wanted to take down the Great Society programs, but, also, Nixon who had himself grown up poor, understood the humiliation involved in having to ask for assistance. The DEMOCRATS, very much including the New Left, shot it down because govt. programs was their jobs program. If you weren't smart enough to make it through law or med school--lets not even mention science and engineering--and you didn't want to be stuck in a room full of obstreperous children, you went into social work.

Now, to do any good, such a program would need to be combined with at the least, rent control and increased public transportation, and I think those two are a much more urgent need right now.

I would also like to know who is backing Yang. As it stands, his proposal basically amounts to a give away to landlords.

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Nastarana

@Lookout could be put to work doing those jobs and other needed work, along side civilian employees. Your kid overseas who sends money home every month would not have to lose his job because of a lefty peace plan.

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@doh1304 strong, and I believe he's sincere and the real thing even if I no longer can support him (FP reasons).

On the VAT proposal, most Euro countries have it, in the vicinity of 20%, sometimes more. Yang is proposing a 10% VAT to pay for his UBI.

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@wokkamile
but it's still a consumption tax.

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A PROUD Hillary hater since 1993

@doh1304 tax? I, in my possibly naïve way, don't see why the big spenders, the owners of oversized gas guzzlers, manicured, pesticide drenched two acre expanses of grass surrounding their McMansions, and yuuge boats that they use maybe three times a year, shouldn't pay some extra taxes.

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@Nastarana
is that spending declines with income. Wealthy people invest a significant portion of their income. At the other extreme the poorest among us spend more than they earn just to survive. A billionaire trading up to a yacht with 3 helicopter pads instead of 2 will still spend a smaller portion of income than someone who can't find enough money to fix a transmission. A consumption tax in and of itself is regressive. The more you earn the smaller percentage of your income goes to taxes.

There are ways to mitigate the regressivity of consumption taxes. One way is to make sure that the revenue is spent disproportionately on people in the lower income ranges. Another is to accompany it with other very progressive taxes. A large estate tax is a great way to stop the explosion of wealth at the top.

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@doh1304 "Compassionate Capitalism"

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@boriscleto

Anyone digging that out of the compost heap deserves to not get elected.

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There is no justice. There can be no peace.

@boriscleto Ain't no such animal.

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Nastarana

Elizabeth Warren, I'm not sure why Marianne Williamson, with her long track record of offering bold spiritual advice to millions, would be going through this long, difficult process of running for president just to propose mild, weak tea solutions on health care and to hint that we might need to continue for years more in Afghanistan.

I could say the same about Andrew Yang, and his disappointingly orthodox neoconish FP views in some key areas.

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...which is why Americans cannot "hear" it. Too much noise in the brain, especially older brains. Thus, too uninformed to have any sort of meaningful conversation about it. Plus, they are extremely hostile about it. Some kind of trigger in the brainwashing.

Become Conversant = https://www.yang2020.com

The Freedom Dividend is a universal basic income of $1,000/month, $12,000 a year, for every American adult over the age of 18. This is independent of one’s work status or any other factor. This would enable all Americans to pay their bills, educate themselves, start businesses, be more creative, stay healthy, relocate for work, spend time with their children, take care of loved ones, and have a real stake in the future.

A Universal Basic Income at this level would permanently grow the economy by 12.56 to 13.10 percent—or about $2.5 trillion by 2025—and it would increase the labor force by 4.5 to 4.7 million people.  Putting money into people’s hands and keeping it there would be a perpetual boost and support to job growth and the economy.

The most direct and concrete way for the government to improve your life is to send you a check for $1,000 every month and let you spend it in whatever manner will benefit you the most. The government is not capable of a lot of things, but it is capable of sending large numbers of checks to large numbers of people promptly and reliably. We have plenty of resources, they’re just not being distributed to enough people right now. Let’s build a new kind of economy – one that puts people first. If there’s one policy that would transform American lives for the better, it is Universal Basic Income.

The Problems:

• Approx. 40 million Americans live below the poverty line.
• Technology is quickly displacing a large number of workers, and the pace will only increase as automation and other forms of artificial intelligence become more advanced. ⅓ of American workers will lose their jobs to automation by 2030 according to McKinsey. This has the potential to destabilize our economy and society if unaddressed.
• Good jobs are becoming more and more scarce and Americans are already working harder and harder for less and less.
• It is necessary to support and preserve a robust consumer economy.
• Many Americans are stuck in the wrong jobs because of a need to survive.
• There are many positive social activities that are currently impossible for many to do because they lack the financial resources to dedicate time to it, including taking care of a child or sick loved one, and volunteering in the community.

The Solution:

Universal Basic Income, or UBI, is a version of Social Security where all citizens receive a set amount of money per month independent of their work status or income. Everyone from a hedge fund billionaire in New York to an impoverished single mom in West Virginia would receive a monthly check of $1,000. If someone is working as a waitress or construction worker making $18,000, he or she would essentially be making $30,000. UBI eliminates the disincentive to work that most people find troubling about traditional welfare programs – if you work you could actually start saving and get ahead. With the growing threat of automation, the concept has gained renewed attention, with trials being run in Oakland, Canada, and Finland as well as in India and other parts of the developing world.

Become Conversant = https://www.yang2020.com

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...true blue establishment Dem friends in New York had much positive to say about Marianne Williamson. No one else broke through their Biden-all-the-way devotion. They happened to catch a brief interview with Marianne Williamson here or there, and something about her came through for them.

Just like your title, they would mention that they were glad she was in the race. I found it perplexing, and intend to pay more attention to this.

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I am glad she is in the race but do not agree with her on everything. Definitely.

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Marilyn

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