Why The Movement Should Protest At The Polls This Year
This election cycle offers an unparalleled opportunity for the movement to organize and cast off the yoke of the corporate duopoly that controls our election space. The behind-the-scenes nefarious actions that the parties use to control the elections have been more obvious than usual and have been brought to the public's attention repeatedly. The public seems more aware that the election process is not working as it should in the sort of democracy that the US tries to convince us we live in.
Awareness of the corruption of the process should be a great boon to bringing about demand and support for serious reforms from a broad segment of the public.
"The Elections Are Rigged"
This election cycle the management of the election process has been more obvious than previous cycles. Trump, the (currently presumptive) Republican candidate has repeatedly called the election process rigged - and he has made considerable noise about other institutions, such as the justice system being "totally rigged."
Bernie Sanders will not say that the elections were rigged (though large numbers of his supporters would not agree with him on this) and instead calls them "dumb":
"I wouldn't use the word 'rigged,' because we knew what the rules were," Sanders said on "Face the Nation." "But what is really dumb is that you have closed primaries, like in New York State, where 3 million people who were Democrats or Republicans could not participate. Where you have a situation where over 400 superdelegates came on board Clinton's campaign before anybody else was in the race, eight months before the first vote was cast. That's not rigged. I think it's just a dumb process, which has certainly disadvantaged our campaign."
There was significant evidence that the Democratic primary was wired for Clinton before it even started, with Clinton having received the pledges of 60% of the superdelegates back in August of 2015. The media continuously hyped Clinton's overwhelming superdelegate advantage throughout the primary cycle:
Last night, the Associated Press — on a day when nobody voted — surprised everyone by abruptly declaring the Democratic Party primary over and Hillary Clinton the victor. The decree, issued the night before the California primary in which polls show Clinton and Bernie Sanders in a very close race, was based on the media organization’s survey of “superdelegates”: the Democratic Party’s 720 insiders, corporate donors, and officials whose votes for the presidential nominee count the same as the actually elected delegates. AP claims that superdelegates who had not previously announced their intentions privately told AP reporters that they intend to vote for Clinton, bringing her over the threshold. AP is concealing the identity of the decisive superdelegates who said this. ...
This is the perfect symbolic ending to the Democratic Party primary: The nomination is consecrated by a media organization, on a day when nobody voted, based on secret discussions with anonymous establishment insiders and donors whose identities the media organization — incredibly — conceals. The decisive edifice of superdelegates is itself anti-democratic and inherently corrupt: designed to prevent actual voters from making choices that the party establishment dislikes. But for a party run by insiders and funded by corporate interests, it’s only fitting that its nomination process ends with such an ignominious, awkward, and undemocratic sputter.
Then there were the various machinations of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the heinous DNC chair, in Clinton's favor. As the generally affable Bill Moyers writes:
It’s the skullduggery going on within the Democratic Party establishment that’s our current concern and as we wrote in March, Rep. Wasserman Schultz “has played games with the party’s voter database, been accused of restricting the number of Democratic candidate debates and scheduling them at odd days and times to favor Hillary Clinton, and recently told CNN’s Jake Tapper that superdelegates — strongly establishment and pro-Clinton — are necessary at the party’s convention so deserving incumbent officials and party leaders don’t have to run for delegate slots ‘against grassroots activists.’ Let that sink in, but hold your nose against the aroma of entitlement.
Then, of course there were the election irregularities and vote suppression activities in a variety of states, with suspiciously targeted voter roll purges in New York, a broken voting process in California followed by vote suppression activities in the form of early media announcements calling the nomination for Clinton before the polls opened, an intervention in Nevada by Harry Reid delivering the vote to Clinton, followed by a rigged Nevada State Party convention after which a nationally-known reporter whipped up a pack of lies about violent Sanders supporters, then there was the fraud of Arizona and electoral "shenanigans" in a variety of states that all seem to favor Clinton.
Suffice it to say, that there is considerable awareness in the public mind by this point that the US election process at best has serious flaws, at worst is completely fraudulent.
This is a choice?
For decades, the corporate parties and their partners in the 1% media have monopolized the political space in the US gradually increasing their control to the point that we inhabit, as political scientist Sheldon Wolin describes it, a managed democracy, "a political form in which governments are legitimated by elections that they have learned to control."
If the corporate duopoly at their respective conventions deliver the candidates that the 1% media has telegraphed are to be the "winners," we will have the two most reviled candidates ever standing for President in modern history as "the choice" for the people.
Public revulsion at the pathetic choice between 1%er's Tweedledee and Tweedledum should make an easy sell of the contention that the two major parties are moribund and incapable of putting forward a decent candidate - and that the way that Americans choose candidates needs to be changed.
The movement needs to use this opportunity, a teachable moment if you will, to push for the sort of dramatic electoral reforms that will make a competitive, unified party of the 99% possible. I emphasize the word competitive because the 99% can create parties all it wants, but until the unequal rules set up by the corporate duopoly to disadvantage third parties are ditched in favor of a level playing field, successes will be largely symbolic. If a third party spends most of its energy just getting on the ballot and jumping through the hoops that the duopoly sets up for them, it will dissipate. (Witness the history of third parties for about the last hundred years.)
Some of the things that we need to change are disadvantageous federal financing laws and the lack of uniform election rules among the states. We need to dump the bipartisan Presidential Debate Commission that blocks participation by third parties and address the lack of media coverage of third party candidates. Also, we need to move to some form of proportional voting rather than the current winner-take-all systems which mostly turn third parties into agents to advantage one of the 1% corporate duopoly candidates over the other. Given the events of this primary season, a push for open primaries in every state is could be pushed as an equity issue, since independents outnumber membership in either party and primaries are funded by the public and closed primaries bar independents from voting in elections that they have paid for.
Protest at the polls
An expedient method for getting the public's attention and organizing people to demand these reforms would be to extend the concept of electioneering a bit and protest at the polls.
Given the high negatives of both candidates, many people will likely be in a frame of mind to hear (and maybe join in) complaints about a process that could produce such a pair of vile, unacceptable candidates for the highest office in the land. The best chance is that few of the voters will be completely satisfied with one of the candidates; most and will have just voted against one or the other. Those that voted Green or Libertarian will almost certainly be receptive to the need for reforming the process.
The other expedience of this campaign is that it would be irresistible to the media. While the corporate media will surely attempt to portray it as a movement of a bunch of offbeat individuals who have just emerged from their secret hide-away lairs of fringe politics - free media exposure is a good thing and the message, like that of the "outsider" candidates this cycle will probably resonate with a broad public in ways that our dark corporate overlords don't anticipate.
Comments
Excellent essay
and I couldn't agree more.
I haven't written off the idea that the whole process is rigged holistically and not just by party. The media pushed Clinton ignored and/or trashed Sanders. While doing this they pushed Trump to the fore. I am sure it is no coincidence that Trump is just about the only human being that Clinton stands a chance of winning against.
It has become painfully obvious that the thing that the establishment fears most is a left of center presidency and they have done everything in there power to stop that happening.
The two party system (at the top of the hierarchy at least) is nothing more than kabuki.
On a more positive note, more and more people are finally getting it which is why the lesser of two evils argument is finally losing its power.
Anyway - great post.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
thanks steve...
yeah, i couldn't help but notice that trump getting a couple of billion dollars in free media.
that pretty much has to be a coincidence, right?
Two things our elections are never short on:
Money and coincidences
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
heh...
good one!
Indeed
A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
afternoon jnh...
heh, i woulda thought that she'd have a more corporate-looking lemonade stand.
Oh, no no no...
She's one of us, dontcha know, she can totally relate to us! Really! Emojis, Pokemon GO, neighborhood lemonade stands... Totally one of the little people, she'll fight for us and protect us, god this kind of hurts to type even as a joke because she really is this willfully tone deaf.
Economic: -9.13, Social: -8.56
Thanks for the link, MsGrin. Ivanka is
listed as a 'keynote' speaker. But the rest of the Family, Melania and his adult children, are listed as speakers on the full list.
Earlier, I forget about the youngest daughter, Tiffany--his daughter with Marla Maples. She had less to say at the Town Hall. Apparently, she had just graduated from college, so naturally, while well-spoken, she didn't possess the same level of poise that her older siblings exhibited. (IMO)
So, speakers will include his four adult children, and his (current) wife, Melania. Obviously, she's quite beautiful. She's also a polyglot. We saw a Barbara Walters interview with her and 'the Donald' several months ago. She has never hired a nanny to tend to their 10-11 year-old-son, Barron. Overall, she's quite impressive, as well.
Sorta makes me wonder if some of Trump's 'antics,' aren't just that.
We need to hope so, in case he somehow pulls off a win.
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and, therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
National Mill Dog Rescue (NMDR) - Dogs Available For Adoption
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Yikes! Meant to reply to MsGrin in another thread. I'll
move this comment, and notate (in this one) that the comment has been redacted.
My apologies.
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and, therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
National Mill Dog Rescue (NMDR) - Dogs Available For Adoption
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Edit: For now, will leave this comment. Target/intended essay
disappeared.
Thanks.
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and, therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
National Mill Dog Rescue (NMDR) - Dogs Available For Adoption
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Luv the cartoon, JnH--thanks! I could use a laugh, now. EOM
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Outstanding summary of the vile primary process
Thanks, Joe, for putting it all together in one place. The Democratic insider establishment was so hell-bent for a deeply flawed, unpopular candidate that it let the mask slip: the Democratic party is not democratic at all, and didn't bother to conceal this fact with the customary fig leaves. Similarly, the corporate media let slip its mask falsely portraying its products as "journalism." The stench of pro-corporate party propaganda was everywhere, and unmistakable. Formerly well thought of purveyors like Rachel Maddow turned into the second coming of Wolf Blitzer.
I'd like to think your last paragraph is true, but I don't believe the corporate media would even cover electoral reform protests. They work for the same bosses the parties do, after all, and have clearly shown this year a shameless eagerness to bury stories their owners don't want covered. We have our work cut out for us, and I'm thankful for you, JtC and the crew giving us this home to talk about the truth.
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thanks dallasdoc...
i think that we'd get election day coverage if we were colorful enough. we might be able to get some continuing coverage by leveling a critique of the major media and mounting attacks on media consolidation and pushing state and local laws to force them to give free air time to candidates as part of their public service requirements.
the media are actually more vulnerable to concerted public efforts to force them to perform public service than you might imagine. every broadcast outlet is required by law to maintain what's called a public file, in which it must preserve correspondence with the public including complaints of every sort.
a public file that is full of complaints from the community that the broadcaster is not fulfilling its public service duties to the satisfaction of the community will definitely get the attention of the fcc when it reviews the broadcaster's license at renewal time.
it is possible for a broadcaster's license to be revoked and they are quite fearful of that. it's a lever.
Why Be a Debbie Downer, Joe?
The solution is right in front of you.
A riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma
heh...
yep. perhaps we ought to sue the government under rico.
Somehow we would be deemed to have no standing.
Since we pay to not-play. All of us.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
Is it really a lever, or is the FCC captured, too?
I keep searching for alternate news sources, a few more every day. Some don't even seem right-wing, although that could be a sign of the times. I sure appreciate your news accumulation, Joe, even though it's distressing.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
afternoon riverlover...
like all government agencies it is subject to political pressure and the nab is a pretty powerful organization, too. so, yeah, it will be a battle, but it's worth having. even if in the end, we only have another demonstration of how corrupt the system is, if the people are watching, it will have value.
good afternoon, joe
Excellent article, as always.
(I fear I will write a lengthy post. I probably shouldn't/don't want to say any of this in public, but yet I should. This diary doesn't exist anymore anyways.)
I love "The Brass Check," have you read it?
Sinclair talks a lot about socialism and the corporate press, and rails against the AP and the control they exert.
Sinclair asserts that breaking the media monopoly, and thereby actually informing the masses, is key to elections, etc.
He talks about rebellions always taking over newspapers and such first (We saw that yesterday in Turkey! The 1% already has taken over here.)
I strongly support co-ops, ESOPs, and workplace democracy (despite all its flaws) [I would rather start an 'AP-style' co-op than have 'state run' media! (Because then have to start all over to get control of media.)]
I would love to form a media co-op, owned "by the people" and delivering truth "for the people" [etc] at a random domain I have, (IndieMediaHub - already offered for donation) but more about building networks rather than specific websites
I personally am not talkative, popular, or extroverted, and don't want to be
I think the media can/will just ignore protests (CNN never even reported protests right outside the CNN bldg.!)
I don't want to compete with C99, or GOS, or FB, or other social media, but utilize them, for content and/or distribution ...
Thoughts that I think have possibilities:
Distribution network (Compete with the AP, PR Newswire, NBC, etc)
Co-operative network bringing together indie (TYTish) video, blogs, online radio, as well as offline papers, radio, video, and news consumers (politicians, activists, individuals ...)
Copy the Scopes format (CNN = 4 brown noses, the Intercept = clean nose/half a brown nose, and even going down to the article level)
Raise funds to air [30-sec] "News-O-mercials" on corporate media ... "Here's the News CNN won't cover: protests outside CNN today! Jill in Vermont, ice collapsing in Greenland, ...) {Double pleasure, gets news out/exposes MSM as shills}
Maybe a Wiki style interface ...
Owned and operated by the people, for the people, [against the 1%] ... [Co-op, non-profit, for-profit, whatever, etc.]
Utilize activists, artists (think, The Yes Men), etc
I keep thinking I'll write some artful and literary diary to drum up support ... That'll never happen ;-{
You and JtC seem to be the real deal, I trust y'all.
I worry about vetting co-op members (Write ten articles? Investment required? Vote in/out members? ... I worry about wikipedia style saboteurs ...)
I can write, donate legal advice, domains, money, etc., but I really don't want this to be mine! (NotMeUs!)
Various members here have expressed interest in participating ...
I would love to hear your thoughts (and if y'all have any interest.)
This dove-tails into every goal you cite in this article, yet won't be instantaneous, but should outlive us.
(Not even one 1/100th of my thoughts ... yet still a way too long note.)
I love the idea of News-O-Mercials
Don't know if we can afford them, but most people do still get their news from the major network news on TV, so that would be most effective - as you say, to inform people and also to show how that show they are watching at precisely this moment is not informing them.
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" ... that show they are watching at precisely this moment ..."
Nice words, thanks. :->
(I need to hide in the forest now.)
I've thought media is the key...
for many years. How can people reach reasonable conclusions if they don't have data (information) to work with?
I keep thinking we need a progressive channel or site that provides reviews of existing productions -
Today, what was powerful on Democracy now, the real news, the young turks, RT, telesSUR, and other foriegn news sources.
It could be links to stories with a short synopsis - sort of a best of the news.
No one person can review it all, but we could together. Joe does a great job with the Evening Blues...I'm thinking something along those lines focused on video media. Perhaps edited or collected by topic.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Our local real news is a joke, I posted a few front pages to my
Facebook page: Sports, sports, lifestyle, sports, Obama, sports, weather, and for good measure sports!
I'd be interested in contributing to something like this. I think the US MSM is such a joke we could focus on compilations from progressive and foreign video news.
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"I'd be interested in contributing to something like this."
See comments below to Joe, Ed & lookout, you're in, thanks for your interest!
Unfortunately, I fear corporate media wouldn't run them
even if we were paying.
MAYBE we could sneak them in during sitcoms or something... But I'd be shocked if they ran an ad that basically exposes them.
Still, I love the idea, so why not try?
You may be right, but I think money is the be-all and end-all
for them. So I think they would run the ad. If not, there might even be a way to force the issue. A restaurant wouldn't be able to refuse service. Would a network need to follow the no-discrimination rules (as long as we're not cussing or something)?
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evening greywolf...
thanks for your thoughts and offers.
i'm going to offer you some random thoughts that i've had on the subject.
i have been thinking that among the things that "the movement" needs to do is to start creating new media outlets to compete with the corporate media.
it has occurred to me from time to time that here in this community, we have the bare essentials of a correspondent network. lots of people spread out across the country who are all capable of writing and could pick up a stylebook and figure out how to report. there are also quite a number of capable photographers as well, all of which might be useful.
there are some potential obstacles, though to making that work and maintaining a quality of reportage when the people in the network are largely anonymous.
perhaps the easier thing to do is to organize all those people to scan the existing media for news and opinion and aggregate it into some form of news stream.
other folks who can work together might possibly create products like podcasts, vlogs or maybe a sort of internet newsmagazine.
anyway, those are some thoughts that i've had in no particular order.
if there are folks interested in exploring what might be breathed into being and are willing to commit time and energy to such a project, i'm open to discussing it, though my time now is pretty well booked up with my current commitments and putting food on my family.
I think this is very doable
You already have the best news round up of articles and video on the internet in the EB - that could easily become an emagazine. I see media - educating people - as critical to making any movement happen. May be we could set a goal of a weekly or even begin with a monthly collection/publication?
Let me/us know how we might co-create a project along these lines. I appreciate all you do.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
ok, cool...
let me think about it some and get back to you. some ideas are starting to rumble around in my head, but they need some time to bounce around and settle out, kinda like those numbered ping pong balls on the teevee lottery.
'You can do it, we can help. ' Interesting gessay, action ideas
from the joe!
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Yes, I agree
Just copy and paste Joe's EB, combined with twitter and FB and such, could be the beginnings of a People's AP.
See my comments below to Joe and Ed
thanks for your response
I'll respond more appropriately tomorrow with a diary, but I just wanted to run this idea by you real quick right here.
This project combines two of my passions, worker democracy and indie media, which are reflected in my two semi-dormant websites. www.equitableprinciples.com and www.indiemediahub.com - I have mentioned this to others here previously and have floated the idea of using this place as a home base to strategize, brainstorm, etc.
Right now I just want to have a founding board (who could then vote, or whatever, others in to the org).
I'm in Charleston, SC, and basically if five people get together and say, 'we are a co-op,' they are a co-op.
But there are better laws in Calif. for co-ops, and if a physical body is in Calif. we could be there ...
Again, I'll say "Hello World" tomorrow or Monday, but bottom line, i'd be honored if you and/or JtC would be among the five (or more, as I think a few in this thread would be interested, and have good ideas, as well as Can't Stop the Signal.)
we'll need to kick this around a bit...
i am grateful for your offer to donate a couple of websites, but currently, i don't see why a separate website is needed for what has been discussed in comments. i am interested in discussing what sort of products folks are interested in creating, but but it sounds so far like much of the proposed content is to come from the evening blues which c99 is the home of.
it also seems a little bit like putting the cart before the horse to start discussing creating legal structures like a coop or a board of directors before we have decided on a product that is to be created and who is to do that.
i don't want to dim your enthusiasm, but lets kick around some ideas for a while and see what comes of it.
couple of websites - no, no
Equitable Principles is mine, the other is for community property.
And, yes, I agree that mucho planning and thought are appropriate.
And no, I don't want to steal your thoughts or effort,
which is why I was hesitant to even bring any of this up ...
We'll talk more as time goes by ...
Mr. Wolf, you have already done what you said you couldn't do
I have read many of your comments and found them enlightening. In this I am not alone. Let me point out to you the forest hidden by the trees: your comment would, by itself make a great stand-alone essay. Don't worry about Shakespeare, just express yourself as ably as this comment demonstrates.
What makes this site valuable? It is the level of commentary that people such as yourself provide. A venue such as Joe S. and JtC provide would be meaningless without well-thought commentary. An opera house without opera is just a waste of space. Please continue to provide the other 99/100 of your thoughts.
thanks for your kind words
see my comment to Joe just above, that applies to you, and others, as well
Getting media coverage
Each person holding a LARGE sign:
"Never Hillary."
" JILL not Hill"
" No reckless, extremely careless person should be POTUS"
"No more Clintons"
"A. B. C. = Anybody but Clintons"
I *seriously* love this idea, Joe.
It's outside the box, something people haven't seen and don't expect.
I worry that it could be mischaracterized as sore-loserism if it does not very visibly and loudly cross the political spectrum left and right. The 99% has its members on all wavelengths, and all have pretty much the same general complaint that things are rigged against them. That has to be fundamental to the pitch, and to the composition of the people doing the protesting. The last thing we need is to be cast as "just some Bernie-bros." What you raised in the diary hits many of the arguments well, and we need to hit all the points simultaneously to prevent marginalization. We also need a variety of voices and constituencies making them.
On the plus side of whether to focus on this kind of protest as opposed to another, the system IS broken, and the place to raise that is at the pinnacle event of the process. If only 30% of the populace chooses who's going to lead the nation, at least that 30% will see this, regardless of whether the media choose to cover it or not (addressing Dallasdoc's point finally). And if the message is not partisan, but systemic, the media may well have to cover it. And if they don't, the word would get around among families and neighbors.
afternoon dance...
organizing this action will take careful planning so as not to be perceived in the ways that you suggest. we would have to form some sort of innocuously-named umbrella organization - something like "citizens for better elections and a fully informed public" or something like that. we would have to organize across lines, including people from lots of third parties as well as people who are disenchanted dems and reps.
if corporations can pop up blandly-named to sound like do-gooder orgs at will, we ought to be able to pull off something like that, too.
heh.
Thanks for the great comment,
Thanks for the great comment, Dallasdoc! The candidates, parties and self-interest funding and control are revolting - and, therefore, must the people revolt.
Vote against all evil - if Bernie fails to pull a unicorn out of his sleeve, vote non-corporate Green! If enough people do it, guess what happens? We outnumber them 99 to 1%, after all, and without us supporting the self-interests, they are left without our faces to stand on.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
excellent summary
Very well put. Could this be cross-posted all over the place, just as it is?
thanks wetterau...
sure, you can repost it elsewhere. please post a link back to the original here, though. i'd like c99 to get credit for publishing my work.
There is so much meat in this
essay, that it is difficult to pick out everything I wish to highlight. But this one thing is something that could be sold to the general public fairly easily. Something I learned from talking to people at our Peace vigils is when something is presented to them in an unbiased fact form, most are willing to consider what you are telling them. I truly believe that most people have never considered this fact that could be a huge selling point regardless of their personal political alignment.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Indeed, if that isn't taxation without representation...
than what in the hell is?
I wonder why nobody has filed such a suit yet?
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
afternoon alphalop...
it's probably a matter of being afraid of what the court might do. there is precedent that the party primaries are private. the states have over the years taken them over so that they can regulate them in answer to citizen complaints about the corruption of the privately-run elections and its effect on governance.
the parties would like to have their elections private (and probably unregulated) but they like having the costs subsidized by voters.
citizens probably really don't want to pay for things that they are barred from participating in, but do-gooder citizen orgs are probably fearful of what a lack of regulation might produce.
the risks for both sides probably keep them from acting.
if the state governments were not dominated by partisans of the duopoly it would be a simple matter to fix the problem - the states run regulated primaries and winners appear on state ballots. parties can participate or hold their own primaries, but the winner of a private primary won't appear on the state's ballot and can only participate as a write-in. but that would never get past a state legislature dominated by members of the corporate duopoly without people with pitchforks and torches...
Thanks for the reply, I fear your summation is accurate...
It really seems like they have every intent of continuing on their path pitchforks be damned.
Looking at global trends leads me to believe that the dissatisfaction of the people worldwide towards the ruling elites is reaching "Peak Rage".
Anyone that thinks that the destructive and deadly protests and coups that have occurred in other nations over the last few years can't happen here are quite possibly severely underestimating the levels of discord and the exponential rate at which they seem to be increasing.
We may be hitting a feedback loop where the discontent and unrest begin feeding itself rather than upon itself, allowing it to grow ever faster.
TPTB may have finally gotten too bold and too complacent about their control.
They seem to forget that they are outnumbered roughly 99-1....
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
The discontent feedback loop--precisely!
.
I have been promoting, in a much less eloquent way, the growing probability that bloody Revolution will occur, if a populist revolution a la Sanders doe not occur. Like waiting for irreversible global warming to occur, the fury of the citizenry--not just here--but around the world will ignite.
We are approaching "Peak Rage" indeed, and when we do if there
is no outlet for the pressure things will surely explode.
I am hoping for a more of a Soviet Union style fragmentation than an all out civil war if it comes and more and more every day I feel we are getting closer.
It's kinda like that feeling in the air when a huge storm is coming in but hasn't quite hit yet but on a societal level.
Man, I really hope I am wrong... I would much rather have a peaceful political revolution than what i fear is coming.
"I used to vote Republican & Democrat, I also used to shit my pants. Eventually I got smart enough to stop doing both things." -Me
I think opening the parties
I think opening the parties is entirely the wrong direction to go. They should have NO official place in our electoral process and receive not one cent in taxpayer dollars - but they have a fundamental right of association just like you or I. Would you tolerate the government telling you who you must or may not invite to a BBQ? Would you let the public vote on who you support for office? Of course not - and yet that's exactly what you're suggesting.
Also, because parties produce nothing and don't serve the public good in any particular way, they should be disqualified from incorporation, and any existing party corporations should be discorporated ASAP. Or perhaps there is some limited form of corporation that would grant them a set of rights and powers sufficiently trivial that public good need not be a prerequisite.
I can see why people feel so helpless to affect any meaningful change in the role and status of parties in our elections that they think that making parties official public entities in order to justify their regulation is the only answer, but I think they are proposing a plan to take a large shovel and dig a very deep hole with it, and nowhere in this plan do I see a way out of the hole.
Ummmmm, private parties have
Ummmmm, private parties have no business determining which candidates the people in a democracy will have available to vote for, especially with smaller/new parties effectively shut out. The 'no money for public funding' excuse is ridiculous - it's public money, meant to be used for the public good. What could possibly be 'gooder' than free and fair elections potentially resulting in government actually 'of, by and for the people', rather than a faked 'choice' between funder-selected corporate/billionaire-employed candidates?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Ummmmm, private parties have
And they don't. They have no control over that.
Do you know who does determine that? State governments do. They decide what is required for ballot access, they decide whether or not voters will be allowed to write in candidates, they decide what voting system to use to determine the will of the public, they decide how Presidential electors will be allocated. They design the election process from beginning to end: mail-in vs. poll stations, paper vs. digital, who counts the votes, who audits them, everything.
If your ballot has two choices for President (Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump), it is your state government that decided that those two, and no others, merited inclusion.
people could protest
at the polls by each person voting only for someone they know personally. Not of one party, or two, or three, but of 300 million. "Parties."
Let a hundred flowers bloom.
afternoon hecate...
voting doesn't organize people - and under the 1% corporate duopoly, it doesn't make change, it merely chooses which brand of corporate flunky occupies office. at best it can be said that voting in the us forfends the advancement of certain evils, forcing their introduction either in smaller increments or over a longer period of time.
part of the problem is that we have been demoted from citizens to voters.
from sheldon wolin's democracy inc.:
that's fine
I'm not interested in organization. Or "parties." I just figure that if people only voted for those they personally know, tallying votes, in a nationwide election, for, oh, say, 200 million different people, that would crack the nut right quick.
I, anyway, personally, don't vote. First reason: registering to do so, lights you up on the grid.
Nice thought; won't happen.
The only money can't but, as the saying used to go, is poverty. Here in the C.S.A. (Corporate States of America) the money of the 1% buys the poverty of the 99%. Bribing voters is a time-honored tradition. It was a classic art-form perpetuated in Chicago for decades, but not confined to that city. Therefor, a few measly dollars spread amongst the so-very-poor-that-buy-their-next-meal will be irresistible and therefore indefeatable.
the arrogant, elitist, condescending, disgusting
"the poor can be bought for pennies" argument.
Not my world.
My people have always been poor. They've never been bought.
A long-held belief of the rulers
Until 30 or so years ago, Kentucky had a law that liquor stores (and bars?) could not be open on voting days, because, um, the rubes could be bought for booze. Reminds me of trading with tribes. But the other way.
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Remember One Thing
None of us is Bill Clinton, who managed to interfere with voting at several polling places. The police will be called if we don't observe the rules. Please plan appropriately.
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
afternoon neoconned...
thank goodness there's only one of him. that amount of brazen would be tough to deal with if it multiplied.
People should be planning how
People should be planning how to resist the police when they arrive.
I filed complaints directly with FCC
about TV news coverage of political candidates.
https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/hc/en-us?return_to=%2Fhc%2Fen-us%2Fre...
I complained about ABC, CBS, NBC, and MSNBC covering only Clinton and Trump. I pointed out that the public needs to know what their options are and the networks are not filling this need.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
afternoon featheredsprite...
thanks for the link!
it's also effective to file the complaints with your local affiliate and demand that they provide the service that the network does not.
Good on you, featheredsprite !
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Good on you, featheredsprite !
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
It's all 1% party. Rigged. Fraud. Corrupt.
The Election's office still hasn't been able to notify us if we can vote in the GE. I received a post card stating that I was a Democrat.
I exited out. I had been a Democrat for ten years here and all at the same address. During the election, me and my spouse's registration records were wiped out and you could see the "write in" change from Dem to Indy wasn't even our writing. Two types of 7's on it. One mine, one not
But they said I can call myself a Democrat. I won't ever.
But as to voting they don't know yet... I can't tell you how many hours I have spent trying to get this sorted out. Now Sanders people aren't emailing/calling back and the Secy of our state hasn't called. But we got a flimsy post card stating that I am now back to being registered as a Democrat.
I love your essay Joe SP!
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afternoon dj...
wow, your saga deserves to be documented and printed in the local papers - complete with all the names of the "public servants" that can't seem to do their jobs as you work your way up the food chain.
sadly we weren't alone
but we have no idea how many were kept from voting.
my own brother didn't get to vote because they kept sending his ballot to the wrong address. he's been there 5 years. he got his ballot 5 weeks after the election.
lots of shitty little shenanigans to so many.
there was NO election. it's that simple.
"Love One Another" ~ George Harrison
I Demexited online in NY last week.
Theoretically. They appear to update databases only closer to elections, making me wonder how they accomplished updating voting books.
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Bravo, Joe! Here's more 'proof' to back up your essay
assertion that the 'elections are rigged.'
(Carville was implicit. The PtB have no shame.)
From ABC's Sunday political program, This Week, barely a month after 'O' was reelected in 2012.
End Of Transcript
[Note: Repaginated for emphasis.]
Here's the link to the entire transcript. Folks might want to read the entire passage, including Krugman's comments on this topic. Matlin and Dowd are also on this panel.
Thanks for this excellent and timely essay, Joe.
Hey, I'm on the team that says 'let's move on.'
Time's a wastin'!
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afternoon mollie...
it's interesting, though not in the least surprising to see how long prior to the election the fix was in.
it's hillary's turn, i guess. fsm help us all.
Joe, if you want to feel dirty...
http://dailycaller.com/2015/11/22/followers-of-a-mysterious-turkish-isla...
Erdogan blamed the coup on him. In the US, with deep Clinton connections. It just gets better.
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fingers in every pie...
it looks like if there's a large enough pot of money somewhere hillary will be by to collect it.
It will be interesting to see what voter turnout will be
for this election, particularly the prez race. 2014 saw the lowest turnout in 70 years at 37%. With Trump vs. Clinton, maybe we can set a record and get in the Guinness Book of World Records.
I know what I'm doing.
afternoon al...
if i were a gambling man, i would put my money on low turnout. negative campaigning (of which i expect there will be a yuge amount this time around, both in quantity and intensity) tends to drive down turnout. so given the enormous negatives of the candidates already, i would guess at this point that we might see an all time record breaker.
That's alot of people that won't get counted
unless something is organized. I'm not sure what you mean specifically by "protesting at the polls". Are you talking voting third party? And how would that translate into some of the electoral reforms you suggested?
i'm not talking about voting...
who people choose to vote for (or if they choose to vote at all) is there own business.
what i'm talking about is physically showing up at the polls with protest signs, literature, etc. and interacting with voters as much as your state's electioneering rules allow. (most states have rules about how far away from the polling place people representing campaigns must remain and may have other rules about interacting with voters which must be followed.)
the point is to engage with voters, talk about the broken system and some of the measures that can be taken to fix it and give them literature and contacts in order to organize them into actions later.
Oh I see.
Mail in state here. Would have to be handled differently.
Joe, are the 99P people who represent a specific campaign?
How can they be "barred in a distance" to the voters to interact with voters, as they themselves are voters and it's not known, for whom they would vote, as it should be, imo.
I think what people can do with regards to media exposure needs to be spelled out more precisely. Who knows exactly what to do? All you said in those two paragraphs, were in my mind since I started reading at the TOP (2004), I just couldn't it express precisely and still have difficulties to do so. But concerning the content, it was basically all in my mind (and it was pooh-poohed):
I think printed material in form of flyers (short and precise with regards what kind of legal matters a citizen can take into his hands and act upon - if you are not a lawyer it's hard to know what an ordinary citizen can actually do - also especially what you said about how to complain about the lack of free, public media coverage by your local affiliates and in national public TV). Most people like me are not educated enough in those legal matters and I think going to the polls and being able to talk precisely about what is rigged, how to take legal steps to fight it, one would need well prepared material to support the "conversations" you would have at the polls.
If you come from a country with a different electoral and voting process, even if you were not aware what your own system exactly was in your home country, you - even the most under educated folks - can understand that a "winner take all" regulation for example is deeply undemocratic. A system that offers two parties only which both are so similar and regulated by corporations, doesn't offer a choice, even if the whole kabuki theater they orchestrate in the primary and election seasons is nothing but trying to stage a "competitive choice between two different parties". But those parties are marginally different. Their differences is fought over in the fine print years after the elections are over and nobody really knows to read and understand the fine print. You don't hear about it in the TV news media and to believe that most people read about it in alternative online media outlets about it, was so far imo a pipe dream.
Sometimes I am reminded of my former mother-in-law, born around 1918 probably, who was quite aware of the independence wars going on in her home country Cameroon. There were some "independent fighters' in her tribe. When finally independence was achieved and the first elections were held, everyone was exited. With a school education of may be two to three years in the French colonial system, my mother-in-law never learned French to read or write. But she knew how to make a cross on the ballot and sign her name. My former husband than around 16 years old told the story of how proud he was of his mother, who came out of the polling boot and said that this is not an election, there was but one choice to make and therefore she refused to vote. So, I would say, politicians always underestimate the citizen's intelligence and they know that fear and threats and draconian police actions is all they have to continue their kabuki theater.
I mean for how stupid do they take their "voting target groups" ?
https://www.euronews.com/live
Excellent essay.
Vile is right. Both are really just that, vile. I likely won't vote in November but I'd protest if I thought it'd make a difference.
Don't believe everything you think.
thanks hester...
heh, we'll see if the idea goes anywhere.
Protesting at the polls is a great idea, as long as we don't get
too close. It would take tons of people to go to every polling place. Do we know how many there are? Of course, if they pull another Arizona on us, maybe there won't be so many! But around here, so far it seems like there's one every few blocks.
Anyway, just make sure to know the law and stay away from the doors! Here, though, protestors outside the limit would still stand out; there's never anybody around on election day.
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evening ec...
we would identify our action as electioneering and scrupulously follow the local regulations. perhaps if this idea catches on, a call to the local aclu or national lawyers guild reps for guidance might be in order as well.
Elena and Joe--this Occupy the Vote idea may have legs
If enough concerned citizens can get involved in peaceful demonstrations at as many voting locations as possible, there will not be enough police available in any city to close all the demonstrations down--permit or no permit. But Occupy the Vote is going to require some pretty heavy lifting to occur.
Yeah, I love this idea. Really make people aware of issues
Specifically, we need to go back to paper ballots NATIONWIDE asap.
And info on the problems with primaries and electoral college would be good too. But the most important thing is making sure people's votes are counted and counted for the candidate they actually voted for!
I was going to be a pollworker this year, just to observe how it done, but maybe I should hand out info instead!
Great essay, Joe!
I am now thoroughly convinced that our votes are meaningless. I am not sure where we go from here.
I know that voting is not the answer to change. It has always been social movements, but I still thought that our votes were real. What a blind fool I was.
Thank you for posting this essay.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
evening gg...
thanks for the kind words.
in a society of relative equals, voting is a perfectly reasonable way to organize some sorts of social decision making processes. also in a society of relative equals with common interests representative democracy stands a decent chance of working.
in our society as it is now, with its corrupted institutions and social structures, voting alone is not going to get done what people of our sort and status want done.
fixing the corruption, reducing the vast inequality and introducing more direct democracy into our social structures would be a way of making our votes more meaningful and productive.
Fixing the corruption
Which is exactly what Bernie wanted to do, and he was squashed.
Hard not to be demoralized and want to quit. I'm fighting the urge every day, but helplessness hovers at the margins. I know the revolution is about "us," but (I think, as we're seeing now), it's harder to organize without someone like Bernie leading us. So many of us were united under his vision and now that he's been marginalized, it's like we don't know what to do.
Sigh.
Even if Bernie can't pull off
Even if Bernie can't pull off one of his patented miracles, you can still vote against evil in the General by voting Green and record as carefully as you can to protest/sue for every evidence of cheating and suppression encountered. Fight this every way you can - Americans must stop letting blatantly rigged election results stand as a 'done deal'.
This might be the last chance democracy and life on Earth has to survive; it'll be much harder once corporate interests and billionaires control domestic law in all involved/betrayed countries via the corporate coups labelled 'trade deals', initiated by Bush and promoted by Hillary as Sec of State, along with fracking. And perhaps we can still avoid bloody revolution around the globe, as any one country, especially the originating country, pulling out of these, apparently breaks these privately agreed deals-with-the-devils-for-our-lives-souls-and-futures. They need to take us all down at once, it seems, for this hostile global corporate take-over.
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Yes this
This always comes first. Trying to overturn an established power structure from the inside without an established supporting movement is a fool's errand.
“To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.” -Voltaire
absolutely, steve. n/t
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