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Destroying Deutschland and Murdering Europe

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What an eventful week. The referenda in the break away Ukrainian provinces opt by 90+% to join Russia - Which happened yesterday in a ceremony with a powerful "no holds barred" speech by Putin blasting the neo-colonialism of the West. (video here) Russia's 300,000 soldier mobilization is progressing despite western spin that it is a failure. Perhaps in a temper tantrum the US (in all likelihood) blew up the natural gas pipelines from Russia to Germany guaranteeing their decline and de-industrialization. The UK is in free fall with the rest of Europe following suit. Let's look at this and more below the fold.

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No one better discussed the week's events than Scott Ritter (IMO)

Time stamp of topics...
1:38 Beginning Discussion
14:38 How will Russia React to the Pipeline Sabotage?
40:45 Is NATO preparing to intervene in the conflict?
46:02 Involvement of British Intelligence?
49.08 Could Sabotage Give NATO Cause to Intervene in West Ukraine?
52:56 Russian EMP Capabilities?
1:00:55 How Many More Weapons Can NATO Supply to Ukraine?
1:04:59 Is Russia Primitive?
1:11:23 NATO (EU) Sanction Italy?
1:18:50 NATO Withdraw from Kosovo?
1:21:38 Biolabs in Ukraine?
1:24:57 Nuclear False Flag in Ukraine?
1:28:43 Syrian Arab Army Helping Russia?
1:32:16 Damaged Pipeline Repair and Evidence?
1:36:31 Russia Attack Canada?
1:41:00 Nuclear False Flag in Ukraine (revisited)?
1:42:28 EU Attack Russia For Resources?
1:43:40 Role of World Economic Forum?
1:45:40 Does Europe Have Backbone Against the USA?
1:48:52 Why did Russia Stop at Kherson?
1:54:14 What Will Happen to the Ukrainian Held DNR?
1:56:55 Thoughts on Yale Historian Timothy Snyder?
1:57:48 Should Russia Test Article 5?
1:59:54 Requirements to Join the Russian Military as a Foreigner?
2:00:44 End Game?
2:05:42 Iran Joining BRICS?

I think we witnessed a major power shift this week with Putin's speech as the turning point.
Nice recap of Putin's speech on MoA

Western countries have been saying for centuries that they bring freedom and democracy to other nations. Nothing could be further from the truth. Instead of bringing democracy they suppressed and exploited, and instead of giving freedom they enslaved and oppressed. The unipolar world is inherently anti-democratic and unfree; it is false and hypocritical through and through.
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Recall that during WWII the United States and Britain reduced Dresden, Hamburg, Cologne and many other German cities to rubble, without the least military necessity. It was done ostentatiously and, to repeat, without any military necessity. They had only one goal, as with the nuclear bombing of Japanese cities: to intimidate our country and the rest of the world.

The United States left a deep scar in the memory of the people of Korea and Vietnam with their carpet bombings and use of napalm and chemical weapons.

It actually continues to occupy Germany, Japan, the Republic of Korea and other countries, which they cynically refer to as equals and allies. Look now, what kind of alliance is that? The whole world knows that the top officials in these countries are being spied on and that their offices and homes are bugged. It is a disgrace, a disgrace for those who do this and for those who, like slaves, silently and meekly swallow this arrogant behaviour.

They call the orders and threats they make to their vassals Euro-Atlantic solidarity, and the creation of biological weapons and the use of human test subjects, including in Ukraine, noble medical research.

It is their destructive policies, wars and plunder that have unleashed today’s massive wave of migrants. Millions of people endure hardships and humiliation or die by the thousands trying to reach Europe.

They are exporting grain from Ukraine now. Where are they taking it under the guise of ensuring the food security of the poorest countries? Where is it going? They are taking it to the self-same European countries. Only five percent has been delivered to the poorest countries. More cheating and naked deception again.

In effect, the American elite is using the tragedy of these people to weaken its rivals, to destroy nation states. This goes for Europe and for the identities of France, Italy, Spain and other countries with centuries-long histories.

Washington demands more and more sanctions against Russia and the majority of European politicians obediently go along with it. They clearly understand that by pressuring the EU to completely give up Russian energy and other resources, the United States is practically pushing Europe toward deindustrialisation in a bid to get its hands on the entire European market. These European elites understand everything – they do, but they prefer to serve the interests of others. This is no longer servility but direct betrayal of their own peoples. God bless, it is up to them.

But the Anglo-Saxons believe sanctions are no longer enough and now they have turned to subversion. It seems incredible but it is a fact – by causing explosions on Nord Stream’s international gas pipelines passing along the bottom of the Baltic Sea, they have actually embarked on the destruction of Europe’s entire energy infrastructure. It is clear to everyone who stands to gain. Those who benefit are responsible, of course.

The full speech is quite the expose on the western imperialism.
SOE had a nice excerpt in yesterday's OT as well
Alex did a good job in his clip yesterday too (28 min)

Putin, 'things will never be the same.' Elensky wants NATO fast track. Red Square party
Gonzalo hosted a round table primarily with Brian of the new atlas, but also Alex and Angelo

For those who, like the western media, consider the referenda a sham, I recommend listening to Eva Barlett who has been on the ground observing. (1.2 hours)

Eva K Bartlett has witnessed the Referenda in Ukraine first hand. There are few true journalists left, much less ones with the courage, integrity and fortitude that Eva clearly has in abundance.

Jimmy and Chris discuss the referenda and the fact that Russia Annexes 1/5 Of Ukraine (11 min)

The results of the recent referendums in Donbass, Zaporozhye and Kherson are in, and with returns of roughly 90 percent of residents favoring joining Russia, Vladimir Putin has announced that these regions will be annexed by Russia. The U.S. and other Western nations have denounced these referendums as a sham, but that won’t impact the facts on the ground, which appear to foretell Ukraine losing roughly one-fifth of its territory.

Hudson gets to the bottom of what Germany’s downfall will mean for the euro and what the options are for Global South and Eurasian countries as they try to stand up to US hegemony.

The reaction to the sabotage of three of the four Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines in four places on Monday, September 26, has focused on speculations about who did it and whether NATO will make a serious attempt to discover the answer. Yet instead of panic, there has been a great sigh of diplomatic relief, even calm. Disabling these pipelines ends the uncertainty and worries on the part of US/NATO diplomats that nearly reached a crisis proportion the previous week, when large demonstrations took place in Germany calling for the sanctions to end and to commission Nord Stream 2 to resolve energy shortage.

The German public was coming to understand what it meant that their steel companies, fertilizer companies, glass companies and toilet-paper companies were shutting down. These companies were forecasting that they would have to go out of business entirely – or shift operations to the United States – if Germany did not withdraw from the trade and currency sanctions against Russia and permit gas and oil imports to resume, and presumably to fall back from their astronomical eight to tenfold increase.

Worth the full short read.

I thought this was an insightful interview with researcher Ralph Schoelhammer (18 min)

Germany's future looks bleak due to war-based sanctions and an energy crisis. Germans continue to protest but will it do any good?

Alex suggests Germany will now be the headquarters of the West proxy war with Russia.
Germany becomes Ukraine command center. TurkStream sabotage fears. Woke army is better.

Garland Nixon had three good takes on today's topic. He goes so far as to suggest THE EU BECOMES AN ECONOMIC JONESTOWN. (36 min) He suggests DARK BRANDON GOES FULL GANGSTER ON THE EU (42 min), and finally he provides part of today's title, GERMANY ATTACKED! - THE DAY JOE BIDEN MURDERED EUROPE (29 min)
Garland suggests Italy's new President while anti-EU is pro Ukraine/'elensky. Too bad, I thought for a minute she might help all of Europe

All of Europe is in a bind, and winter looks bleak for our European friends
British Pound Sterling nears parity with US Dollar

Yanis Varoufakis on Liz Truss crashing the UK economy It is beyond understanding to me why these countries are willing to jump off a cliff to curry US favor. With friends like the US, who needs enemies?

So why are we promoting a war that is already lost?
How the Arms Industry Scams the Taxpayer
Contractors Cash in as Congress Adds Billions to the Pentagon Budget

The leading advocates of more Pentagon spending, Democrats and Republicans alike, generally act to support major contractors in their jurisdictions. Representative Jared Golden (D-ME), a co-sponsor of the House Armed Services Committee proposal to add $37 billion to the Pentagon budget, typically made sure it included funds for a $2 billion guided-missile destroyer to be built at General Dynamics’ shipyard in Bath, Maine.

Similarly, his co-sponsor, Representative Elaine Luria (D-VA), whose district abuts Huntington Ingalls Industries’ Newport News Shipyard, successfully advocated for the inclusion of ample funding to produce aircraft carriers and attack submarines at that complex. Or consider Representative Mike Rogers (R-AL), the ranking Republican on the House Armed Services Committee and a dogged advocate of annually increasing the Pentagon budget by at least 3% to 5% above inflation. He serves a district south of Huntsville, Alabama, dubbed "rocket city" because it’s the home to so many firms that work on missile defense and related projects.

We all know the real scam. Put arms manufacturing in every district and capture all of congress.

There a few congress critters who will voice an anti-war thought. Tulsi might be the only one and she has been side lined... (2-3 min)

Tulsi Gabbard EXPOSES Nord Stream Truth On Tucker Carlson

I want to wrap up today's piece with a fun interview, Chris Hedges and Roger Waters.

Using music and art to promote thought and understanding is an great goal.
Roger Waters - This Is Not A Drill ( Full Concert) - Pittsburgh, PA 2022

Momentous times, friends. Hang on, looks like a wild ride. I look forward to your comments, thoughts and insights below.

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to take Lyman. Russia was able to reinforce and also Putin ordered them not to retreat, turning what could have saved a goodly portion of men and material into a rout. The joke is that the Russians are aiming to tire out the Ukrainian forces by running away so fast the Ukrainians tire just trying to catch them.

I remember reading on here a couple of days ago how Lyman was a brilliant plan to catch and annihilate huge numbers of Ukrainian troops. This morning small groups of survivors from Lyman are making their way on foot through the woods, out of amo, out of food, and water, without officers or non coms, trying to make it to Kreminna and not be shot by the Ukrainians hunting them down. It's anyone's guess if Russia will make a stand at Krminna or keep running to Svatove. One American described it as like shooting squirrels in a pecan orchard, (must be from georgia) he also said he'd never seen so many dead people.

200,000 men had left Russia in response to the most recent draft. Studies show that fascist dictators like Putin who have been in power a long time tend to stay in power until they die. I suspect that some day before too long we will learn that Putin passed away peacefully in his sleep and some generals will have taken over.

Everyone who can, leaves.

An interesting aspect is Telegram. People can still read postings to social media if they so choose. There's still plenty of paid propagandists pumping out false information, but there are also strong war supporters who supply true information. When Russian war bloggers abandon Lyman you know that the place is falling. Individual soldiers send videos and photos home, they talk to their families. It's much much harder to hide the truth these days, and the truth this morning is a full scale rout out of Lyman.

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@ban nock in the top clip.

Your pro-Ukrainian take might be clouding your judgement. The fascists are the Ukrainians who arrest opposing parties, close down news outlets, and whose soldiers wear Nazi SS symbols.

Enjoy the brief Ukrainian gain while you can. More Russian troops are on the way.

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@Lookout

And hopefully they will be able to cement the "results" of free and fair vote on the annexation of 1/5 of Ukraine and then go further into Ukraine and bring the whole country down! Let's ignore the over 200,000 Russian men who have fled over the borders to avoid dying for this sham, and let's ignore the protestors in Russia being crushed for their anti-war public expressions.

And then we can have another conversation about the colonial history of the US and the always pure actions of Russia or the USSR etc.

If you are going to use RT and Scot Ritter and then dismiss every other source of news, then you are bound to get this kind of tale telling. Oh and let's say without a shred of evidence that the US blew up those gas lines. If people can prove our involvement in that, I will certainly listen.

Exposing the US history of colonialism, exploitation, etc. etc. is easy. I can find all that in any Google search, and certainly media has been able to report on it for many years in this country. So Putin's speech on this is no miracle, it's old news, and he's a hypocrite. That is also easy to find out when you look at the history of his country and its behavior in the world and its treatment of its citizens. The rest of his speech was pretty pathological and in my view revealed a desperate man in a corner, which is what we all should fear. He has always had a Russian empire POV narrative embedded in his brain, and his pursuit of that is what will bring his poor country down. He has an almost religious fervor when it comes to his fantasy. I feel very sorry for the average Russian and what is coming for him/her. The loss of science and cultural exchange is the real tragedy, not the so-called Nazis in Ukraine narrative.

Here is another POV that readers here may want to consider... Tom Nichols from The Atlantic Daily..

"There is no way for the poorly supplied and corrupt Russian military to train, house, clothe, and arm 300,000 men anytime soon, and certainly not before winter arrives. In reality, Putin doesn’t even have 300,000 men; he has roughly 300,000 names of male Russian citizens, many of whom will never set foot on a military base. As a strategic matter, this measure is pure idiocy."
"Sending untrained men into battle only to die may be part of Putin’s plan. He is furious about losing, and (as I wrote months ago) he has been spoiling to turn the invasion into a nationalist war against NATO as the only way to save face and motivate the Russian people to endure more sacrifices. And therein lies Putin’s dilemma: How can he infuse that sense of fervor into Russians who couldn’t give a damn about fake republics in Luhansk or Donetsk?"
"The answer, for Putin, is to annex Ukrainian land while claiming that the war is now “to defend our motherland, its sovereignty and territorial integrity,” making it a holy war to protect Russia itself against Ukraine, NATO, and the entire West. Putin then turns Ukraine into “Russia” by taking Russian men from their families, shipping them to Ukraine, getting them killed, and letting their blood soak into the dirt. He could then say, to his own people and to the world, that the buried bones of so many Russian men make Ukraine hallowed ground from which Moscow will never retreat.
(note here that Brezhnev used the same argument when telling Czechoslovakia in 1968 why they shouldn't leave the USSR.

"Your pro-Ukrainian take might be clouding your judgement." Well, I have to say at this point that your pro-Putin take is clouding your judgement. Or at the very least it is preventing a balanced consideration of the Ukraine/Russia issue.

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@Fishtroller 02

You are entitled to your opinion. I'm entitled to my interpretation of the data.

US Secretary of State Antony Blinken has welcomed the sabotage of the Nord Stream gas pipelines, calling it a “tremendous opportunity” to divert European Union nations away from Russian energy resources during the oncoming winter cold.

Blinken boasted on Friday that the US is now “the top provider of [liquefied natural gas (LNG)] to Europe,” adding that in addition to exporting its own fuel to Europe, the US is working with European leaders to find methods to “reduce demand” and “speed up the transition to renewables.”

“It’s a fantastic opportunity to terminate our reliance on Russian energy once and for all, and therefore to deprive [Russian President] Vladimir Putin of the weaponization of energy as a means of advancing his imperial aspirations,” the top US diplomat continued.

https://www.theasianmirror.com/news/19532/blinken-calls-nord-stream-sabo...

Scott Ritter is knowledgeable whether you acknowledge it or not. If we're criticizing sources, you trust the Atlantic? Really.
https://www.mhpbooks.com/is-the-atlantic-a-cia-front/

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But he was a great hedge fund manager. Is this considered proof of the US blowing up the pipeline?

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Edit to add:
more evidence here.

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I used to visit frequently until I saw the not so invisible hand of conspiracy theorists doing their busywork there.

So we've got the possible culprits down to the US, the Poles, and Annie Applebaum.

Good detective work!

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@Lookout that the top military team in the US, specializing in underwater detonation, was on the aircraft carrier at the point of the explosions. Can't find it now. Dammit!

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@on the cusp

Underwater torpedo drones dropped by the helicopters associated with our ships working in area.
Edit: oops it was planes rumored to have dropped the torpedo drones controlled by the ships. Interesting speculation at this point. I think it was Scott's interview?

We may eventually know...a day late and dollar short.

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@on the cusp Pretty sure it was the USS Kearsarge group that just left the area, I think the day before. Of course timers (and other methods of detonation) allow for one to make a cool getaway before it blows.

Just a coinky-dinky Biden, Pompeo, and Nuland all said NS2 would not come to pass and now the Hedge Funder in charge of war Blinken sees a great opportunity, and we're No.1.

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Look deep into nature, and then you will understand everything better.
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@dystopian

Garland Nixon is fairly new to me. He was a police investigator, and trainer of investigators, and I find his approach interesting. He's big on analogy, and uses them well. At any rate we're at the point where we have to be investigators in order to have a clue about what is really going on. Perhaps it has always been so, but there are so many more tools in the oligarchy's box these days.

The pheobes came by a minute ago they've been with us all summer.

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@Fishtroller 02 @Fishtroller 02

"There is no way for the poorly supplied and corrupt Russian military to train, house, clothe, and arm 300,000 men anytime soon, and certainly not before winter arrives. In reality, Putin doesn’t even have 300,000 men; he has roughly 300,000 names of male Russian citizens, many of whom will never set foot on a military base. As a strategic matter, this measure is pure idiocy."

The 300,000 men that Russia has called up will be reservists from a pool of 25 million. The call-up of 300,000 reservists will concern those who have previously served in the Russian army and have combat experience or specialized military skills. Students or conscripts (young men serving mandatory 12-month terms in the armed forces) will not be included. Russia conscripted an average of 250,000 men every year for the last two decades.

FYI, the Russian speaking people of the Donetsk and Luhansk Oblast have been asking for help from Russia since 2014, after 14,000 of their citizens were killed from random shelling by the Ukraine government. Putin has finally responded.

Are you and ban nock colluding? You and him have showed up as a pair the last three times just to disrupt C99%.

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Are you and ban nock colluding?

They certainly share the same main stream AP views. Perhaps it is just the MSM brainwashing, but I wonder if they think they can change minds or just enjoy stirring things up.

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@Lookout
They never make any valid points. They get shot down every time they show up. Just look at the responses to them in this post.

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You know, once during the Covid wars I asked the same thing about you and Snoopdawg and got chastised by Adm.

However, I bet you'll get away with it.

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@Fishtroller 02
I'm tired of you slamming myself and this site.

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I don't typically agree with a many of Ban Nock's or Fishtroller's positions, but it doesn't follow that they are simply trolls and out for disruption.

It *is* true (for example) that a lot of Russians have fled the country to avoid service, they did retreat from Lyman and there has been a lot of criticism w/in Russia of how the Ukraine operation is being conducted - by Chechen leader Kadyrov, among others.

So, their points are not completely unsupported.

What *is* unsupported is the accusation that they are here simply to disrupt C99.

For better or worse (mostly the latter) BN and FT02 are expressing the propagandized view (if they have any opinion at all) of most Americans about the Ukraine situation. If C99ers are unable or unwilling to respond to that in an effective way here, what are the prospects for being able to in the outside world?

Are you and ban nock colluding? You and him have showed up as a pair the last three times just to disrupt C99%.

I recall pretty strong reactions from you in other cases where people were accusing others of being shills or trolls.

This time it's different?

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@Blue Republic

We are all victims of the MSM propaganda. I'm happy to entertain other views. Tolerance is a gift we should all pursue.
Edit to add:
You gotta admit that they like to stir up the community. Not to say that is totally bad, but I wonder about their motivation.

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@Blue Republic Just calling covid essays and comment threads "covid wars" is a tell.

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"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." ---- William Casey, CIA Director, 1981

@Blue Republic I think Fishtroller got banned, I'm not so familiar with this web site but when I went to take a look at his profile I got some error message.

Be that as it may, I'd hardly call what I post propaganda. Mostly what I say is born out within a couple of days in all sources, Russian, Euro, US, everyone. I mean Lyman really did get overrun, and it wasn't an organised retreat, or even anticipated. The number of Russians fleeing Ukraine is hardly a made up number, border entry keeps track of that kind of thing. I mean Russia really did invade its neighbor, it's not some made up story from bloggers.

Most of my satisfaction comes two days later when I'm proved correct, as with Lymon. All the advanced democracies of the world see things the same way, another large number of countries are silent, and some very bad actors are supportive of Russia.

Putin's latest headache. The Ukrainians have broken through defences in the south, and a much larger group of Russians is caught on the wrong side of a river. While everyone was speechifying in Russia, and running in Lyman, the Ukrainian army was also busy elsewhere.

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Kherson, Zaporizhzhia, Donetsk and Luhansk Oblasts will officially become part of Russia so Putin can legally order his military in to secure them. At the present time, these forces are currently stationed just outside their borders with massive amounts of their latest equipment.

He was successful in pulling Russia from the brink of dissolution by reversing the edicts put in place by the American puppet Yeltsin, who was installed by the US and was allowing the country to be literally raped and pillaged. (Yes raped - 14-16 year old Russian girls were coerced into prostitution in order to secure enough money to help feed their families.)

You can assured that without Putin in charge, Russia would have been dissected and gutted by the American "Harvard Boys" and would not exist today.

Putin is a trained lawyer and has a long history of doing everything by the 'book'. Here's what the now anti-Russia Brookings Institute said about him in 2012:

Vladimir Putin and the Law
February 28, 2012

ladimir Putin has been busy — he recently published his seventh pre-election article in two months. These lengthy articles cover a dizzying range of issues, from
ethnic integration to
foreign policy. As Mr. Putin’s re-election (or “reappointment” as some have derisively commented) looms, these articles provide a tantalizing window into what to expect from Mr. Putin’s impending third term as president. Some are predictable: Mr. Putin will continue to assert Russia’s interests in the face a dangerous global order and enact policies that will ensure Russia’s stable democratic development. One theme, however, stands out as potentially rather different: the surprising emphasis that Mr. Putin – himself a trained lawyer – places on the role of law in political and economic change.

Reliance on the law has typically been short-lived amongst Russian leaders. From Lenin to Yeltsin, Russian leaders have strategically used legal rhetoric but have ultimately jettisoned legal limitations in the relentless pursuit of their political and economic goals. Mr. Putin’s emphasis on what he has previously called the “dictatorship of law” hints at a different approach, explicitly drawing on a deep tradition of conservative Russian legal thought that begins with the nineteenth century philosopher Boris Chicherin and that persists today in the current chairman of the Russian Constitutional Court, Valery Zorkin. This legalistic form of political thought helped underpin the abolition of serfdom and the constitutional movement of the late Tsarist period. The promise of these reforms was ultimately unfulfilled. Will Mr. Putin finally fulfill this promise?
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A Dictatorship of the Law

In his opening article on January 17, Mr. Putin proclaims that the Russian state will not allow itself to be swept up in growing forces of instability, but instead will seek to control these forces by actively “setting the rules of the game.” He continues: Russia will “muscle up” by “being open to change” through state sanctioned procedures and rules.

In the domestic arena, he writes, a focus on legality will help Russia avoid its “recurring problem” of straining for “sudden change” and promote “well thought-out, considered reforms.” In his article entitled “Democracy and the Quality of Government,” he emphasizes this point with a quote from a late Tsarist constitutional thinker, Pavel Novgordtsev, who warned that “the proclamation of liberty and universal suffrage” do not “magically” lead to democracy but instead toward “oligarchy or anarchy.” Mr. Putin therefore demands that the opposition employ “democratic” – and here he means state-sanctioned – means for change. To encourage this kind of lawful dispute resolution, he proposes expanding the rights of public organizations to sue government officials and publicizing court proceedings. He also argues that the Russian state should act in a law-based manner. The Russian government almost collapsed in the 1990s, he argues, by yielding to “the temptation of illusions” and a lawless “fortune favors the brave” attitude. But since his rise to power in 2000, adherence to clear rules of the game has helped secure Russia’s stable development in a “democratic, constitutional manner.” Adherence to the law, he argues, must continue or Russia’s democratic development will be put at risk.
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@Blue Republic Great, we can agree to disagree.

What *is* unsupported is the accusation that they are here simply to disrupt C99.

I offer some support...
BN posted in one of his Ukraine Nazi War cheerleading posts a few weeks ago about how Ukraine was going to reunite Crimea.

My reply asked if Crimea had a say in it. It explained how Crimea was ethnically Russian, ignuistically Russian, culturally Russian, and have voted to not be part of the Ukies. My post explained how historically they were only gifted to Ukie buddies of Kruschev in the 1950's. For thousands of years Crimea was not Ukraine. These peoples do not care for each other. The Ukies treat them like they do the ethnic Russians in Donestk and Luhansk.

He did not reply to my post. I guess the Crimeans do not get self-determination in his world.

But in another post in the thread he did reply to, one of gj's comments, he off the cuff stated (since gj did not bring it up) that if all the Russians would leave Crimea they wouldn't vote that way anyway.

As if there is anything but Russians in Crimea. And as if all the Texans would leave Texas they would quit voting Texan too. Is it innocent ignorance? Only his 'facts' matter.

He puts a sideways BS reply in another unrelated comment elsewhere, not replying to the facts presented. Proving he is impervious to them.

So we have a few choices. Troll is most polite one.

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@dystopian
Starting with evidence of the pipeline destruction.

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It was informative.

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Read her entire entry and learn something.

Or don't.

This is a free space.

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@ban nock
you were on the front lines.
How else could you regurgitate such tripe without proof of anything but your own Russia hate filled mind? I've met tools before but a monkey wrench such as yourself takes the cake and eats it too.

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Russia Withdraws from Liman 5 min

Sadly given US propaganda, there are many tools. The west has been waging a PR war....losing on the ground, but winning in US living rooms. Poor ban nock is a victim.

Alex had a funny clown world today. Luke Skywalker has gone to the dark side...

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"I've met tools before but a monkey wrench such as yourself takes the cake and eats it too."

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@Fishtroller 02
about those who throw excrement against the wall and say "I didn't know it would make a mess and stink up the place"?
If you want to tell jokes, go ahead. Everybody will know you're a comedian. If you want to be thought of as truthful, keep your thoughts to yourself of provide factual evidence.
What's in your toolbox?

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If I called what others post here, "excrement" there would be a public tongue lashing from Administration and a lot of huffing and puffing about insults.
"If you want to be thought of as truthful, keep your thoughts to yourself of provide factual evidence." I have provided links for my opinions, but they are always the wrong ones, so I use humor to cover up for my failings.

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@Fishtroller 02
one of the very few left leaning sites that will allow you to post adversarial points of view.

Do you appreciate that? No, you and ban nock show your appreciation by denigrating the site, over and over. I am growing tired of that.

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Here's me providing a source for my POV. So see, I DO provide this kind of thing. Now watch as it gets chewed up and spit out and I'm back to square one being accused of just using humor and not providing evidence or sources.

"Here is another POV that readers here may want to consider... Tom Nichols from The Atlantic Daily.."

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have posted here about Lyman. Of course it is always possible that the AP is totally making this all up.

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@ban nock a retired General now active in Russian politics since the subject of an imaginary coup has been brought up.

I suspect that some day before too long we will learn that Putin passed away peacefully in his sleep and some generals will have taken over.

Andrey Gurulyov, a Russian military leader, politician and statesman. Member of the State Duma commission on federal budget expenditures aimed at ensuring national defense, security and law enforcement. Member of the State Duma Defense Committee. Scott Ritter asks for his final thoughts at the end of the interview which was interrupted by a few moments of silence when sound was lost on the USA side of the conversation.

I would like to wish the American people peace and benefit. I would like to wish the American people high level the standard of living. I would like to wish the prosperity and I would like to wish the American people fot its elite, for its establishment to care about the American people and we on the ground will somehow will succeed. Thank you very much.

Brink of nuclear war | New phase in Ukraine conflict | How will Russia defend liberated regions (41.25 min)

A few important statements for me and sorry not sure their point in time during the video. First, regarding using nuclear weapons use in Ukraine. Gurulyov mentions their nuclear weapons are for NATO countries. Second, when discussing post annexation the discussion shifted not to security, but improving the quality of living conditions in the areas. Third, Gurulyov does not consider current conflict a war of choice for Russia and losing an option. Finally fourth, England may suffer worse than America if the conflict expands. There appeared to be underlying anger at Liz Tuss stating she is ready to push the nuclear button.

For American's involved in the conflict as you are suggesting it is still a personal choice.

One American described it as like shooting squirrels in a pecan orchard, (must be from georgia) he also said he'd never seen so many dead people.

Except if enlisted in the military providing training, intelligence, analysis and weapon delivery. American citizens at this moment seem to have no input regarding the future of the conflict. The only course of action I see is trying to stay informed and preparation as for any disaster while appreciating life.

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@studentofearth Thank you for the links and quotes, but... I just don't listen or read stuff from either Scott Ritter nor some Russian politician. Other times I've followed links on these pages and they always lead to Russian propagandists or even outright paid web sites of that regime.

Russia is currently a totalitarian state, any politician is complicit or they are out of Russia and publicly disavowing Putin's dictatorship. There's even a new term form the particular Russian form of fascism.

Rashism From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to navigationJump Not to be confused with Racism or Russianism.

A combination of the Saint George's ribbon and the letter Z, both associated with Rashism, which has been compared to the fascist swastika (and called zwastika)[1][2]Part of a series on Fascism

Rashism (Russian: рашизм, romanized: rashizm, pronounced [rɐˈʂɨzm]; a portmanteau of "Russia" and "fascism";[3][4] Ukrainian: рашизм, romanized: rashyzm[4]), also known as Ruscism, Russism (Russian: русизм),[5] or Russian fascism (Russian: русский фашизм), is a term used by a number of scholars, politicians and publicists to describe the political ideology and social practices of the Russian authorities during the rule of Vladimir Putin. It is also used to refer to the ideology of Russian military expansionism,[6][7][1][8] and has been used as a label to describe an undemocratic system and nationality cult mixed with ultranationalism and a cult of personality.[9][10] That transformation was described as based on the ideas of the "special civilizational mission" of the Russians, such as Moscow as the third Rome and expansionism,[11][12][13] which manifests itself in anti-Westernism and supports regaining Imperial lands by conquest.[

It's seldom that every country in the free world recognises such a bad actor, especially if the bad actor is so powerful. It's a case of we should have done something about Putin back when he was blowing up apartment buildings full of Russians, or at least when he started wars with all of his neighbors. Better now than when he is rolling through Poland en route to the rest of Europe.

It does look like we are at a dangerous stage, he has lost 10% of the land he has taken from Ukraine during the last month. Armies don't disintegrate at a uniform rate usually it happens faster and faster, but it's a long way to Crimea. The massive conscription is a sign of a desperate dictator. Everyone is waiting for the nukes, but again, better to deal with that now when they might not even fly.

What's too bad are all the dead people. Mostly Russians but also Ukrainians.

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@ban nock range of sources - often conflicting - is difficult. It takes time and practice to obtain the skill for sorting the gems of information from the irrelevant or nefarious. Each of us have different skill levels. Can empathize with your not wanting to take the time to watch the video.

The wikipedia page on Rashism was an interesting read. It includes a section on pushback on the term by Russia.

Russian television presenter Tina Kandelaki, who supported Russia's war against Ukraine,[99][100] criticized Wikipedia's use of the term "Rashism" on her Telegram channel, accusing Wikipedia of "digital fascism" targeting Russian people and calling Russians to stop using it.[101]

Russia's federal censor Roskomnadzor reportedly ordered the English Wikipedia on 18 May 2022 to take down the articles "Rashism" and "2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine", asserting that they contain false information about the war the Russian government calls a "special military operation".[102][103]

On 20 May 2022, during the show Evening with Vladimir Solovyov, the host Vladimir Solovyov and his panelists responded with outrage at Timothy D. Snyder's article "We Should Say It. Russia Is Fascist", an article which according to Russian media watchdog Julia Davis has "spread through Russian state media like wildfire". Solovyov attacked Snyder by calling him a "pseudo-professor of a pseudo-university [...] He is simply a liar", and, addressing Americans, stating: "Let me tell you a secret: first of all, your signs are idiotic in their nature. Secondly, looking at your listed indications, how are they any different from the election campaign of Donald Trump?"

The first reference in the text you selected to include in the comment is to a March 2022 article at VoxUkraine which describes itself as:

We are an independent analytical platform. We help Ukraine move into the future. We focus on economics, governance, social developments and reforms. Neither parties nor oligarchs support us. Quality of our materials is ensured by the editorial process.

Who are our clients?

For citizens and institutions striving for systemic change. We work for people who trust the facts and analytical approach. For everyone who wants to live in modern Ukraine, a part of the global world.

The second reference is to an April 2022 article archived from Radio Free Europe which Wikipedia describes as

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty (RFE/RL) is a United States government funded organization that broadcasts and reports news, information, and analysis to countries in Eastern Europe, Central Asia, Caucasus, and the Middle East where it says that "the free flow of information is either banned by government authorities or not fully developed".

My opinion European citizens are at more risk of adverse consequences of economic instability and deindustrialization than Russian troops rolling through Poland. Which will be difficult to achieve if the Ukrainians are succeeding on the battlefield as you stated.

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@studentofearth @studentofearth yeah not sure how he can honestly write how incompetent Russian military is and in the same breath be worried they will roll through Europe? I mean I haven't heard anything from Putin that he has any plans to do anything other than liberate the parts of the country that want it.
It was hard for me to accept when I finally realized that maybe the US were not the good guys. That was after 9/11 and WMDs. Sigh. It can be hard to let go. It doesn't mean Russia is good guys, just that in this instance perhaps US has gone too far. Everyone has a breaking point.

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@Crazytimes conflict. It is definitely not the United States political and military leadership. They have created a situation where many lives have been destroyed and unfortunately it continues.

In this process we probably lost the belief of many of the worlds citizens that United States is a responsible world leader and a place of democracy, individual rights and a healthy prosperous life for its residents. Once trust is gone it is very hard to get it back, sometimes impossible.

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and any early birds here at c99.

I appreciated the focus on drowning the important news of the day while focusing on small details by Andrey Martyanov:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8z8GTnhhtPk&t=6s

You have provided us with so much good material so who needs another bit from me.....

For whatever reason this contribution from Martyanov really spoke to me.

The MSM propaganda machine has churned up a Major Victory out of Russia withdrawing from Krasny-Liman.

This is like speaking about a withdrawal from a tiny suburb of Chicago NOT Chicago.

Russia has secured a giant swath of the former UKR.

Fine, focus on a tiny suburban area.

The MSM has little to no idea or will not acknowledge what Russia is actually doing and why.

My view is that Russia knows it can and will win and the Russians want to preserve as much human life as possible.

Rant over.

NYC has been getting the wind and rain of Ian for 2 days.

Later, Vicki

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@NYCVG

I'll watch it later. I wish we had some rain. We've been dry and no rain in sight for the next two weeks. I'll have to water my fruit trees and bushes. Been watering the garden.

I hope you're feeling well and have recovered. Enjoy the show or soap opera as Gonzalo calls it.

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@Lookout thank you.

My fitness and strength are massively improved.

Mental skills, not so much.

A lifetime of exercise has paid off big time for me. My brain will or will not heal. Trying to stay positive.

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@NYCVG

Be at peace and enjoy the ride the best you can!

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@Lookout 3 weeks ago I did not know where I was.

All positive.

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@NYCVG hang in there!

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I try to read it when my headackes wre gone. Iam always amazed at the broad and deptth of your news collection.

Be well and I hope you survive any cathastrphic 'climate disaster'. Meanwhile I enjoy to watch my squirrels playing catch-up-

To all of you stay as strong as you can.

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and loti in Germany. I hope thing are okay and you'll be able to heat and stay warm as winter approaches. Please take care and be well!

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@Lookout
I think that should do it. ;.)

I fear more the nuttiness of the people than the cold.

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@mimi

I fear more the nuttiness of the people than the cold.

Take care and be well!

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Hi all, Hey LO! Hope all are well.

We are in the 'need rain bad' category here too LO... Without heavy watering our little flower garden would not be much this year. The Tropical Sage (a Salvia) is past peak, as is the non-native Lantana (my eco crime). About 300-400 heads of a Blue Mistflower Eupatorium are going great so we have butterflies to watch. Twenty species one day last week around porch. They are immigrants from Mexico generally, every fall a migration northward takes place. Some years it is millions of butterflies moving north into south Texas. Since the drought it has been much-reduced the last few years. There have though been days this week with thousands of Snout passing SW to NE, chasing hackberries to lay eggs on. In birds the migratory neotropical songbirds have mostly departed southward now. Waiting for the species that winter here to show up now.

Just a quick hit and run... someone probably posted this already, apologies if so, I had missed it.

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Thanks for the WW LO!

Be well all!

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@dystopian Pretty funny too. Thanks.

We've been having large flocks of grackles coming through. You can hear them before you see them and then it takes several minutes before they work their way through.

I enjoy your nature reports. Thanks for chiming in!

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and I just love it. I could set a chair down next to it and look at it all day. Where are you?

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@Fishtroller 02 south-central Texastan nearish 100W x 30N.

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@dystopian in the bird bath. I was lucky to be sitting 10 feet away.
We used to have many, but of late, they are worth remarking when one is spotted.
Don't work too hard!

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fleeing westward into Ukraine to avoid Putin's Draft.

~~ MSNBCBS

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris right?

I've seen the videos from all parts of Russia where volunteers are lining up to go back into service.

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be well and have a good one

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https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/26/world/ukraine-forces-refere...

Looks like the NYT is going overboard in totally making stuff up.

After allowing a fair and free vote to join Russia, the lucky male inhabitants of the newly "annexed" areas are being cordially invited to rush to Russia's defense and fight in Ukraine. True patriotism never looked so good!

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@Fishtroller 02

been fighting the forces of Ukraine for 8 years now already, in organized militias, and have been doing most of the fighting in Donbass to date already.

be well and have a good one

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@enhydra lutris

Thanks for bringing it. Hope all is well with you.

We've been having beautiful (but dry) weather. 70's and 50's and blue skies.

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Enjoyed Alex's clown watch segment.
Seeing the rulers of the EU self destruct
their bloc in real time is scary. I feel bad for
the populations being impacted by these
short sighted actions. It may well lead to the
disbandment of whatever holds the Brussels
consortium had on the individual member states.

Enjoy your Sunday all!

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@QMS

these days for Ukraine/EU news. Plus I enjoy his walks.

Hope all is well in your corner. Did you escape Fiona's effects?

Ian avoided us. Funny how you want it but you don't. I wanted Ian to brush us for rain, but had it hit us dead on, I would be cussing it. Feast or famine it seems.

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@QMS I agree.

But most of the USA is bubble-wrapped against our actual precarious position.

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are waiting until the dust settles to produce new ones, I would suppose.
LO, great OT! I will get some shopping done, then watch a bunch of your
suggested videos.
The propaganda is saturating the airwaves and intertubes.
It clearly works. I spoke at length with a staunch democrat who is fully on board with war.
Then, she asked me why I had drifted toward 3rd parties or withholding my vote. I had to remind her I was protesting war from the time I was 14.
Oh well, as the comedian says, you can't fix stupid.
Take good care, friend!

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@on the cusp
so pro-war and pro-censorship.

When I was working I always went grocerying on Sunday AM while church was going on. We're near the buckle of the Bible belt here. Scopes trail was an hour or so from here.

We were lucky to have grown during the 60's anti-war and civil rights movement. I miss them.

Take care and thanks for dropping in!

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@Lookout to get up and beat the church crowd, but when I lived in Houston, that was always my time to shop. The only people in the aisles were Asian or Middle Eastern.
I read a post by Patrick Lawrence from scheerpost.com.this morning. Long read, but he makes the point that in 1945, we achieved the No. 1 spot, and could simply stop thinking and take it for granted. Now that we are knocked off the perch, we desperately need leaders who can think, plan, and organize the US to find its' new place in the world. His sad realization is that our political system does not produce true thinkers.
I doubt any politician would even acknowledge we are no longer a first world, developed country. The closest we came to that was Trump and MAGA.
Not that the goofball had any rational plan, but at least Trump said it aloud.

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@on the cusp

Our figurehead is an empty headed old demented man. Seems appropriate sadly.

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that I have problems posting on C99. usually it's the kind of links that
go against govt, OMM(oppressive monolithic media)narrative. The reason I
mention this is that MOA seems to be under govt attack. I haven't been
able to go to that site since early Saturday am.

Anyhow it's not hard to believe that Nazi's are still popular amongst
many people and supported by the neoshitlibcon. For that reason alone
I hope that Russia avail's in this struggle for humanity.

Thanks for the very informative WW LO!

EDIT: Added tweet.....https://www.theautomaticearth.com/2022/10/debt-rattle-october-2-2022/

Autumn is upon us as the leaves have begun their annual coloring, the
grackles along with the BlueJays have moved on and you don't see a
squirrel without a mouthful

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@ggersh
and it is linking fine for me.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
Possibly your ISP provider is blocking you. That's the kind of games we face now.

Thanks for the auto earth link. I forget about them.

Kindness is the key isn't it? It's way back in the code, smile at a baby and watch the way they react. To bad greed and guilt and ego drive us away from our inclination to be kind.

Thanks for the visit!

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@Lookout But I like many other MOA readers had the same problem that
seemed to last for over 24 hours. There has been no explanation from b as of now
as to what happened but in this brave new world I'm fairly sure we all
know the cause.

Russian bots s/

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@ggersh

Russian bots

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@ggersh Me too GG. I have had trouble getting to Moon of Alabama the last couple days. I have not been able to get to John Helmer's Dances with Bears for a couple weeks. I suspect it is the ISP here is Texastan. Ian Welsh I could not get to for a couple days as well, seems ok today. It appears I have to buy a VPN service to use the intertubes how I see fit now?

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@dystopian I've had some issues posting links on C99 especially w/non narrative
links. I guess that's the new norm in "free" amerika

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@ggersh @ggersh
"Boris Badenov: We don't need computer weapon to kill moose and squirrel. We've been trying to kill moose and squirrel for 35 years.
Natasha Fatale: And we've never even come close.
Judge: Exactly."
-'The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends.'

"You busy-bodies have busied your last body."
-Boris, 'The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends.'

"I think he is as dumb as a sack of hammers."
-Boris, 'The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends.'

"Natasha Fatale: Boris, is Moose you said you killed in the previous episode?
Boris: Look, it's his show. If he wants to be hard to kill, let him."
-'The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends.'

"You are so bad, you're good."
-Natasha, 'The Adventures of Rocky and Bullwinkle and Friends.'

"Boris Badenov: Ah, it good to be back on campus.
Natasha Fatale: Boris, you went to college? Penn State?
Boris Badenov: No, state pen."
-'The Bullwinkle Show'.

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@Lookout

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in that interview with Roger Waters you cited: "the war has to end."

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...in Ukraine, but I find war never seems to end, it just shifts from one place to another.

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Good to "see" you this Sunday. Hope things are going well.

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@Lookout contemplating a civilization in decline. My position is actually controversial. From a piece I wrote for the forthcoming issue of Capitalism Nature Socialism:

The downward trend in civilization does not appear to have been mitigated by the consolidation of a global financial elite which thinks it can run the world better than anyone else. Nor are social problems any closer to solution as notions of social progress which can improve upon the models of the neoliberal world order are discarded. One can easily imagine that, as governments are buffeted by crises of their own making, the future will appear as an escalating set of blowbacks from elite cluelessness.

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.. notions of social progress which can improve ..

There exists within the spirit and soul of the human race an ingrained desire to
survive, as scrappy and disorganized as it may seem today. I would prefer to
believe we can overcome the neocons agenda. They are backing us into a
corner. Forcing us to fight for what is rightfully ours. I don't know if you have
ever tried to trap a wild beast, but beware when the options for survival are
being limited. Teeth, claws and frenzied energy suddenly materialize.

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@Cassiodorus

This time we have the potential to take down the entire biosphere including our own species. It is depressing.

The first nations peoples have tried from the start to help us live closer to the earth, but our ego makes us think we rule the natural system rather than we are a part of it. The path to living with the earth is there if we choose it.

Take care and keep good heart!

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What will become of all the debris busted up by Ian? Rather can carting it off to burn in some
landfill, why not build a barrier reef with it? Take all the broken boats, houses, trees, cars and
whatnot, detoxify them, dump them along the coast to build a berm. Then backfill with sand, silt, muck, rock and clay to form a long berm. Voila! A two-fer seawall. Some super strong netting
can be enmeshed to hold it all together. Plant mangroves over the mess and who knows? It
may be an improvement. Keep the seas at bay.

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@QMS

over time for FL and much of the coastal world. I think the high point in FL is only a couple of hundred ft.

Just to show how low and flat Florida is, with a summit elevation of 345 feet (105 meters) above mean sea level, Britton Hill is the highest natural point in Florida.
It is located near the Alabama state line and is home to a park and marker.

But I like your idea of making use of the storm damaged waste. I'm sure there is a use and a reef is a good idea.

Have a good one!

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@humphrey I traveled to Brazil and saw the degradation of the country helped along by Bolsonaro.

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@humphrey @humphrey

Thinking not again!!! On second read, yeah that was quatro anos pasada.
Go Lula!

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@QMS

be well and have a good one

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@humphrey
Looks good at present, we'll see.
Thanks for the news. Glad you add that to the mix!

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@humphrey Lula!!!!!!!!!!!!

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@humphrey

On Tuesday, Sikorski tweeted "Thank you, USA," along with a picture of the massive gas spill in the Baltic Sea. Off the shore of the Danish island of Bornholm, both pipelines sustained significant damage in what is now largely seen as a premeditated attack.
...
European Parliament member and former Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski have deleted the "Thank you, USA" tweet he posted in the aftermath of the explosions that affected Russia's Nord Stream 1 and 2 natural gas pipelines earlier in the week.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/polish-eu-lawmaker-deletes-...

Like Trumps truth leaks...a slip of the lip.

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