Van Jones: #BernieVeep? "@TulsiGabbard ..."

This primary just keeps getting more interesting, #NotMeUs pulled off the historic win in Michigan, Clinton revives Cold War slurs from the dead during the debates, who knows what will happen next?

Van Jones hints that there may be more surprises coming….

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/03/11/tulsi-ga...

Tulsi Gabbard gave Bernie Sanders an endorsement. He gave her a platform on war and peace.

KISSIMMEE, Fla. —The thousands of people who have streamed to Bernie Sanders’s rallies around the country in recent days have been treated to an opening act -- Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii -- who arguably does more to articulate Sanders’s views on foreign policy than he does.

Gabbard, 34, who resigned as vice chairwoman of the Democratic National Committee last month to endorse Sanders for president, has been tasked with introducing him at recent events, including one here Thursday that drew more than 5,000 people.

Unlike the Vermont senator, who focuses heavily on domestic policy at his rallies, Gabbard is talking about U.S. entanglements abroad. And she doesn’t pull any punches when relaying what she sees as a crucial difference between Sanders and her party’s front-runner, Hillary Clinton.

A number of us would like to see the Party back away from its recent interventionist leanings, but with remaining 4 Repug deek wavers running for the nomination wanting to get us deeper into war in ME, we are probably not going to get the Dems to go full-throated for peace and call out loud for an end to US policy of endless war.

What if Bernie were to add a woman to his ticket, a veteran of recent foreign conflicts, an a congressperson to boot?

Interesting notion there, Van….

Jill Stein, she's not. How much is she different from Hillary, Obama? She has been critical of Obama, but....


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divineorder's picture

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

Bisbonian's picture

The "play" button on that video is superimposed right on the crossbar of the letter H in the word NOTHING!

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"I’m a human being, first and foremost, and as such I’m for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole.” —Malcolm X

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"Establish a foreign policy based on diplomacy, international law, and human rights. End the wars and drone attacks, cut military spending by at least 50% and close the 700+ foreign military bases that are turning our republic into a bankrupt empire. Stop U.S. support and arms sales to human rights abusers, and lead on global nuclear disarmament."

And that's Direct from Stein's Website. http://www.jill2016.com/plan

However, would I LOVE a vet in office who knows exactly how to tell the MIC to take a flying leap and where to land? Absolutely.

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divineorder's picture

talking reality to them.

Thanks for the quote from the fearless Dr. Stein, who was arrested 4 times during her last run for President speaking truth to power.

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A Hillary loving friend says that was how Bill ended his term leaving a budget surplus. I am not defending Hillary here - just asking. I am pretty close to pacifist in my thinking - that means the military role is defensive and humanitarian. Though I am not full blown pacifist as there is a time for intervention, and military does not run by committee. This means we need a person with a strong and steady moral compass at the helm. I think this must be one of the toughest parts of the job.

I am not sure I like Tulsi as VP - she seems kinda young. But I like her moral compass credentials.

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but not the defense contractor budget.

Subtle difference there, but meaningful. Essentially he reduced soldier's pay and benefits, helped shred the GI Bill further, and did many other nice things that showed he was taking on the military, but ended up only hurting the soldiers. Lots of the problems at the VA can be traced to his administration.

The Contractors all got paid. On time, and in full.

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it fits the "realistic" bullshit we are now choking on.

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Bisbonian's picture

Everything got slashed, but then we went to Somalia.

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gulfgal98's picture

for Bernie, but I would not particularly want her on the ticket. I think there are other candidates out there who would be better suited as Vice President.

I will say this about her quote about a military mindset. In my years of employment, I had one big boss and one immediate supervisor who both came out of the military, one generation apart. As an employee, I really liked working for both of them because of their "military mindset." By this I mean the old school military man always had a concern for the troops under his command, first and foremost. Therefore, he would be reluctant to put them into harm's way unnecessarily. Neither one of the former military men I worked under ever asked me to do something that they themselves would not do. And I knew they would back me all the way. So this is what I believe she is saying about the military mindset regarding Bernie.

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divineorder's picture

Truth is I don't know much about her to have an opinion about her as a good VP choice, but had read a comment or two about her disagreeing with the O Admin about various and sundry.

Good to see that she is out campaigning as part of #NotMeUs
Thanks for the comment.

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I am pretty sure it was the last Town Hall in which HRC made the comment about the US still having thousands of troops in japan, Germany and other places. If I remember correctly, the Philippines wanted the US out, got them out and now just got them back--makes one wonder what kind of deal or threat or corporate decision brought the last about. HRC seemed proud we are still there after 50+ years. Maybe someone could write something about this because it points out HRC's dedication to military presence in areas that IMO we do not belong (e.g., Latin America).

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you could write something, think a number of us here would be interesting in reading it if you did.

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WindDancer13's picture

I am currently working on a few projects with a focus on the stinking media. = ) I am very slow at getting things finished which is why I recommend someone else take this up because time is becoming of the essence.

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divineorder's picture

and unfair advantage X10. Look forward to reading your work on this.

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WindDancer13's picture

Yes, they are indeed giving Trump the presidency--if we, the people cannot get Sanders in under their noses.

Guess who made it possible for the big media mergers? His name is not Hillary, but as she touted everything else WJC did, it is rather ironic that the media that they helped create will help her lose the election.

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gulfgal98's picture

on the corporate media for the March 2 Open Thread. Linked here.

Feel free to use whatever you need from it if you wish.

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WindDancer13's picture

Thank you!

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Shahryar's picture

and not now. Bernie can't say who he'd want as VP because most of the party people who might support him and be happy to run with him are currently scared of the Clintons and their friends. So let's say, for example, that Bernie thought Sherrod Brown would be a good candidate for VP. Brown would likely have to say no and then the whole point would backfire.

As for Gabbard, from what I know of her I don't think she'd be the person we'd want. Would she help the ticket? Would she be able to be President if anything happened to Bernie? Would she be seen as a Democratic Sarah Palin? That is, a token?

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considered though one commenter when I posted this later at GOS thought Bernie should make the choice now.

Apparently she has gotten press coverage on the right for disagreeing with Obama and Kerry about ME policy.

Thought the tweet, coming from Van, was 'interesting....'

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gulfgal98's picture

Gabbard is a good advocate on the campaign trail , but not who I would want for the Vice Pres. Sherrod Brown is the first person who came to my mind too.

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Big Al's picture

More false narratives, lies and deceptions. What they leave out is more important than what they say.

"Gabbard continued, reacting to Attorney General Eric Holder’s remarks about the terminology of terrorism, “the difference is how you define our enemy is directly linked to the strategy that you come up with in how you defeat them, in what you’re doing about it. And this is why it’s so critical and so important. And I’ll look back to my own experiences, like so many Americans after 9/11, I raised my hand and I enlisted because of this call to action from our leaders at that time saying we will go to war and we will seek out and defeat these Islamic extremists who attacked and killed so many Americans on 9/11 and kill them. Just a few short years later, though, we were diverted from that, and we ended up in a nation-building mission in Iraq, deposing Saddam Hussein, pushing forward this Western ideal of democracy in Iraq, costing trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives, and to what end? So, this is the point of why we must learn from the lessons of the past in order to make sure that we don’t go through this same thing again, and these two things are directly linked. We must identify the enemy in order to figure out what is the effective strategy to defeat them.”

Gabbard also commented on Iran, stating “each of these different things that we hear have do with the same common theme, which is it is about their radical Islamic ideology, which is fueling, whether it’s their statements, or their actions, or these attacks by ISIS, or each of these things around the world, and that’s where we’ve got to really look at that and understand it, define it, identify it, and then understand how we must defeat it. And one of the main things that we have to do in order to address this growing certain of ISIS, why they have foreign fighters coming, as you mentioned from well-off families, from democratic societies, is letting them know loud and clear there are two things that will happen if you join this fight with Islamic radical extremists. Number one, you will be killed. Number two, after you’re killed, you’re not going to heaven. There’s this promise of going to heaven and enjoying all of — you know, the things that they’re promising is not a fact. You will go to hell, there’s not — defeating that ideology is really my point.”

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2015/02/18/tulsi-gabbard-wh-extremism-sum...

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We need to get Bernie enough delegates to win the nomination before we worry about who his #2 will be! There will be plenty of time for that after the nomination regardless of which candidate wins.

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divineorder's picture

we political junkies.

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stick to advising and helping Bernie with military policy/matters. She'd probably do a great job in that capacity.

But, apparently, she introduced Bill 54, which authorizes the confiscation of homeless folks'property, when she was a State Rep in Hawaii. This law authorizes the City to make sweeps of homeless encampments, which more or less (according to some advocates) criminalize homelessness.

So, I'm not sure that I'd trust her judgment on social or economic policy.

I'm posting the blurb from The Hawaii Independent over at Joe's "Evening Blues," as my contribution for the evening.

Here's the link.

Hey, thanks for this post, DO.

Nice to have you and JB back, even if for just a while!

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