The Purpose of War?

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I wanted to fly, as far back as I can remember. About age 4. I practiced flying in my grandmother's Ford Falcon as she drove, using the window-roll-up lever as a throttle, and any handy pen or toy for a stick. As I got older, I knew what I wanted to do, but not how to get there. I had no means. My mother sorted mail for the Post Office (pre-machines), at night. My father was gone to Alaska, where he belonged; where he was born. I wanted to fly bush planes, partly to find him. When I became a teenager, I did what teenagers did, and hung out at the airport...pumping gas, washing planes. I pumped borate into the old fire bombers, B-17s, B-24, a PBY, and watched them fly away to drop it on nearby fires, in southern California. Sometimes I got a ride. Sometimes I even got a lesson, from the guy who rented Piper Cubs there. 'Pinky' Pinkerton, WWII fighter pilot (Wildcats), purveyor of gas and sodas, maker of hundreds of model airplanes that hung from the ceiling of the FBO.

My new step-father asked me what I was going to do with my life. I answered the way all teenagers answer such questions. "Arr-unh-oooh". He asked again, "Have you ever considered going to the Air Force Academy?" "What's an Air Force Academy?", I replied. He was onto something, though. I always had good grades...great grades. I could be counted upon to do what I was told, most of the time. And there was no way, not even with the salary he brought to the family, to pay for any real flight training. The military would do that.

So, I set my mind on the Air Force, going through the applications, medical exams, tests. The results came back my senior year of High School. My best friend, Valedictorian, got accepted to West Point. I was farther down the list. Too far. I tried again for the next year. Rejected again, I settled into working at a restaurant, and got the idea out of my head. Two weeks before the class was to start, they said they had an opening, and would I still like to go? No, I said. YES!, my mother said. She cut my hair.

Fourteen hundred and seventy five consecutive mornings, I woke up (usually to yelling) and told myself, "this is stupid. Today is the day I am going to quit." And fourteen hundred and seventy five evenings, I told myself, "tomorrow." And then one day, George H.W. Bush handed me a piece of paper, and shook my hand, and I saluted, and exited stage left, to go to Pilot Training.

The Air Force didn't have bush planes (any more). The fast fighter planes didn't really interest me. The one plane that did had long, straight wings, flew slow, low to the ground, and was very maneuverable. That would have to do. I spent a year learning how to fly in jet trainers, and walked across another stage, and a picture of my new plane flashed on the screen above the stage. A KC-135...a flying gas station! I would be pumping gas again. I was a little disappointed. It definitely worked out for the best, though. Did I mention that they sent me to North Dakota?

The video above is my favorite flying scene on film. I see a lot of grace in it...sleek jets in a delicate dance, high in the Stratosphere. There is a lot more too it than that, of course. But I focused on the positive. The film is the opening scene of Dr. Strangelove. The rest of the movie is not as pleasant. I lived Dr. Strangelove for several years. I watched the movie every three weeks, on a Wednesday, to prepare for my job. My job was to be ready in a moments notice to launch my jet, sitting just outside the bunker I lived in, one week out of every three, full of gas so that it could refuel a B-52 loaded with nuclear weapons, enabling Major Kong to fly to Murmansk and drop them on Mr's Pavlova's Kindergarten class, ensuring that we would win WWIII. After I gave Major Kong all my gas, I was to land in Greenland, refuel, and take off again to refuel any other bombers that might come along and need gas. I wasn't one hundred percent in favor of this plan, so I always kept an alternate flight plan in the pocket of my flight suit, and a map to Tahiti. Just in case.

Instead, they sent me to Egypt. Our good friends, the sheiks who ran Kuwait, had figured out how to drill oil wells at an angle, and were drilling under the Iraqi border and taking Saddam's oil. He didn't like this, and since we had given him chemical weapons and other support in the recent past, so that he could use them against Iran, he decided to ask again for help. We had no Ambassador to talk to Saddam, but a woman named April Glaspie acted as an ambassador, and told him that we would not stop the Kuwaitis...but if he did, we would probably look the other way. I would have known none of this, unless I had happened to be living in a tent some thirty miles out into the desert from Cairo, listening to the BBC at night on a short wave radio I brought along for entertainment. They were interviewing April Glaspie, after things did not turn out quite as she had told Saddam they would. Instead, we had decided to make war on Saddam, and I was there to teach the Egyptian Air Force to do the gentle Stratospheric Dance so that they could play in the war, and drop bombs on Saddam, far away.

One day, I got to see them demonstrate their readiness for war. I am pretty sure it was in what later came to be called Tahrir Square. The Egyptian military was lined up for review, and their commander gave a rousing speech, and bit the head off a live chicken. It was very convincing. Later, I got to listen to G. H. W. Bush give a far less rousing speech, assuring the Egyptians that he would not station any American troops in their country. I was dressed in civilian clothes. I shook his hand again, but not Hosni Mubarek's. Apparently Mubarek didn't shake hands.

As it turned out, there was not a lot of call for chicken biting in that war, and I was sent to Saudi Arabia without my Egyptians. I did my duty to take bombers into Iraq so they could bomb the AT&T building in downtown Baghdad. I took more bombers to Tikrit, so that they could bomb Saddam himself, but they got one of his stunt doubles, instead. Poor guy. I am sure it wasn't his idea to be a stunt double, and seriously doubt that he deserved to die for it. One night, I got my orders, and it said, literally, "millions and millions of A-10s". Those were the depleted uranium shooters, and they were shooting everything that moved on a certain highway out of Kuwait. I was really very glad I didn't end up flying A-10s, like some of my friends.

Quickly, the war was over, and I ended up in Turkey, during an operation called Provide Comfort. We were Providing Comfort to the Iraqi Kurds by giving gas to more A-10s who were flying over them all the time, preventing Saddam from attacking them. This seemed like a better plan to me, until one day, I gave gas to some Turkish fighter/bombers (F-4s), still over Turkey. They had bombs on them, which I thought was weird, because you don't normally carry real bombs when you are just out practicing refueling over your own country. I went back to refueling our A-10s for the next few days, but one day we had some free time before anyone else needed gas, and my navigator had found a neat canyon back in Turkey that would be fun to fly through...so we did. It was a pretty valley, and there was a huge, snow covered mountain at the end of it that we flew up, turned round at the top, and flew back down, into the valley. Then we saw little orange flashes of light on the ridge above us, and wondered what that was and HEY, THEY'RE SHOOTING AT US!

I flew up out of the valley, and when I got back to our base, I asked my commander why they were shooting at me in Turkey. He explained that the shooters were Turkish Kurds, and they were mad at us because I was giving gas to Turkish fighter/bombers, who were dropping their bombs on the Kurds. The Turkish government was insisting that we do that, in order for them to let us use their base to Provide Comfort of the Iraqi Kurds. I told him I didn't want to do that any more. He told me that he could not promise to keep me from flying missions to refuel the Turks, but, in fact, I never happened to do it again. And eventually, I went home, and got out of the Air Force.

So, what is the purpose of war? Power, control, manipulation, and lots of profit. All those jets, bombs, tanks...they are very expensive, and always need to be improved, and replaced. You can share the fanciest and newest ones with your bestest friends, for a price, and curry favor with your less-favorite friends even with older, worn out ones. (F-4s, in my day, sold to Turkey and Egypt). And then attacking those that are definitely not your friends makes them mad, and threatening, and keep the people at home convinced that you need newer, more expensive toys, to keep them at bay. General Smedley Butler said it best, "War is a racket."

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Thanks for this. Your writing shows a lot of humanity.

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I was born to humans.

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It can be so hard to change direction in life. Doing so for moral reasons takes a hero. Deep bow to you.

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I'm sorry... I am glad you are home, safe now.

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Someone once told me that if we all refused to go, then we wouldn't have any more wars. Unfortunately, I had been to two or three by then. When you are essentially a kid, you can be convinced of many reasons to go.

I've been home a long time, now. 23 years. I still think I'm that kid...until I walk past a mirror.

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What I thought was the greatest anti-war speech ever, delivered by a drunk character... "Lost Horizon"

You see, the trick is to see who can out-talk the other. Everybody wants something for nothing, and if you can't get it with smooth talk, you send an army in. I'm going to fool them, Freshie. I'm not going to have an army. I'm going to disband mine. I'm going to sink my battleships - I'm going to destroy every piece of warcraft.
Then when the enemy approaches we'll say, "Come in, gentlemen - what can we do for you?"
So then the poor enemy soldiers will stop and think. And what will they think Freshie? They'll think to themselves - "Something's wrong here. We've been duped. This is not according to form. These people seem to be quite friendly, and why should we shoot them?"
Then they'll lay down their arms.
You see how simple the whole thing is? Centuries of tradition kicked right in the pants (pause - drily —and I'll be slapped straight into the nearest insane asylum.

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I am reminded of the drunk old man in the whorehouse on the island of Pianosa, in Catch-22. He knew how Italy would triumph and survive the war, and totally baffled poor Nately, who had been taught the more obvious route of being strong and powerful.

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I found the movie more enjoyable. The idea that the elite would live in Shangri-La while the happy natives in the valley below bring them what they need....too much for me!

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he of the mellifluous voice, sad puppydog eyes, and exquisitely gentlemanly manners. He made the fantastic premise utterly believable.

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my favorite of his

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what a raging hoot! Biggrin

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The US would just hire contractors or mercenaries as I call them.

Thanks for sharing your story and I too am glad that you weren't an A-10 pilot.
I recently read an article about the Gulf war and what Bush ordered the Air Force to do to the 10 thousand or more Iraqi troops that were returning home.
The jets first bombed the lead trucks or tanks in the convoy and the ones in the back. Then for over an hour, they dropped bombs and shot their bullets and killed every Iraqi.
How Bush could give that order and how those pilots could murder thousands of defenseless people is beyond heinous. That is 'another' war crime that no one was held accountable for.

The video of the Highway of Death.
A person who thought that this was okay said this is war, that's what people need to understand"
Another person said that it was a 'turkey shoot"
Link to the video.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hhmXleZXAr0

And have people here read about the 'punishment' that some of the members of the military that bombed the doctors without borders received?
I don't remember the details, but no one was held accountable for murdering those people at the hospital.
The pentagon said it was done in the fog of war and wasn't done intentionally.
What utter bullshit! There was a any fog of war. They were informed of the location of the hospital and during the bombing a person at the hospital kept calling them and told them that they were bombing a hospital.
I will try to find the link to the article, or anyone can search for it.
I find it interesting that when 3,000 'innocent' US civilians were killed on 9/11 that was called an act of terrorism, which it was. But when the US bombs innocent civilians in countries we aren't at war with and then bomb the people who come to rescue them, it's called self defense.
And people in this country have no problem with the military killing innocent civilians, invade other countries, or overthrow elected governments.

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The bombing last October of the Medecins Sans Frontieres (MSF) hospital in Kunduz — which came as NATO-backed Afghan forces clashed with the Taliban for control of the northern city — left 42 people dead, triggering a storm of global criticism.

US officials Thursday said those involved in the strike have been disciplined, with some suspended from duty and others facing “administrative” action such as “negative counselling” or being told not to do something again?

“For good reason the victims’ family members will see this as both an injustice and an insult: the US military investigated itself and decided no crimes had been committed,” Human Rights Watch said in a statement.

“The failure to criminally investigate senior officials liable for the attack is not only an affront to the lives lost at the MSF hospital, but a blow against the rule of law in Afghanistan and elsewhere.”

http://tribune.com.pk/story/1068199/activists-slam-us-punishments-for-af...

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“For good reason the victims’ family members will see this as both an injustice and an insult: the US military investigated itself and decided no crimes had been committed,” Human Rights Watch said in a statement.

Sort of like the cops killing an (lots of) unarmed people and finding no fault.

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"I still think I'm that kid...until I walk past a mirror."

Wink I still have the ambitions of a 20 year old... but the 60 year old body does have it's limitations...

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According to absurdists.

Count me out.

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life you have lived, and what you have gleaned from it.
kudos, sir.

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Remove that from the equation and the need for war will disappear... excellent diary.

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Simply require the US to pay its trade deficits in a currency other than the US Dollar.

That takes the US out of power and foils its global depopulations strategies and its murderous asset-stripping quest for EMPIRE. The rest of the world can continue evolving. It no longer matters if the US is part of the world economically.

What matters is that the world lower the hammer as soon a possible, because the American people has no political power to save themselves. That's what happens when people believe that god wrote the US slave-holders Constitution, it's allowed to become obsolete and ridiculous in the 21st century. It is a disgrace among nations, who continuously strive to improve their constitutions, rewriting them every decade or two. But the US Constitution become the boatchain around the neck of the enlightenment, drowning it. This enabled the corporations to slide right into owning the entire privatized plantation. The people grew hostage-level sociopathic.

The rest of the world could fix it now. (Thanks to China.) And they better.

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I tell people it's really that simple, war is a racket, all war. It tends to get glossy eyes because how can something so complex be made so simple. And what about ISIS? Everything is so old it's amazing we still do it, but then again, we're just humans.

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I tell people it's really that simple, war is a racket, all war.

There are actually bad people in the world and some of them go on to be leaders of countries. Hitler comes to mind. If the Department of Defense was actually defending us against an actual threat I wouldn't think of that as a racket. Sure, all wars the US have gotten into since WW2 are definitely a racket. But underneath all those lies and hypocrisy still resides the need to be able to defend your nation against an aggressor.

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but there was still plenty of money to be made: http://archive.adl.org/braun/dim_13_2_ford.html#.Vu9-xHDczjA

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I've had a weird life.

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meant to edit a spelling error and posted twice, somehow; anyway, please do share more good stories.

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thank you for sharing; looking forward to more.

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I flew Ford Falcons. Also '65 Mustangs. But the very best: the Datsun 710.

Wanna go for a ride? ; )

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4HY544URjA]

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All of the people who write here, you have written the most that inspires me.

Oh yeah, I would ride with you. These days, I have a lot more fun watching someone else fly.

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That makes me feel good. Because you are a good man.

I read recently, or saw in a documentary, or something, and when I retrieve it I'll send it along to you, that Kubrick selected that sequence to open Strangelove because he was struck by the skill and the grace and even the beauty of the maneuver, in contrast to its purpose: to, as you put it, "refuel a B-52 loaded with nuclear weapons, enabling Major Kong to fly to Murmansk and drop them on Mrs. Pavlova's Kindergarten class, ensuring that we would win WWIII."

And you lived it. And are here to tell the tale. Be well, my friend.

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My dad flew KC-97s. That's what he was doing during the Cuban Missile Crisis, in Alaska. I was just a child - almost 6 years old at the time and was not aware of what was happening -- except for the tension all around. I was thinking about that today on seeing pictures of Pres. Obama landing in Cuba today. Oh, and Dr. Strangelove was one of dad's favorite films, too.

You are right, someone makes out like a bandits because of war -- and it is not the people fighting.

I am glad you got home safely, Bisbonian.

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KC-97s. There were a few still flying, when I started, in the Air Natl Guard. The boom was the same...they just fitted it later to a 707.

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Do you ever go over to The Other Place, or have you sworn off that completely ? We're going to start talking about the 6th Annual Picnic soon and we're now doing a weekly Open Thread, 5 pm every Sunday. It's up now if you want to check it out.

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The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.

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wreck things subversively, sometimes. I haven't managed to get banned yet, though I was tempted, today. I will keep an eye on it, while I can. You know where to find me, though...what will we call ourselves? Baja...?

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We were using Bluesters for awhile for joe shikspack's readers. It's really rotten how this turned out, I mean, the biggest thing to happen in Democratic politics in our lifetimes and Markos fucking missed it. And of course, it plays Hell with my attempts to organize Meet-Ups. We'd love to see you in our Open Thread though, both you and Taylor. You guys could give us some local color, some weirdness, from your part of the state. (link)

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IMHO, the purpose of war from our POV seemed to be to drive around and look impressive, waiting to get shot at.
Essentially being a duck in a very large shooting gallery.

Course, I am also an idealist about what war SHOULD be. And trust me, it's so far removed from the actual practice as to be equivalent to the difference between the theory of surgery and your current factory farm slaughterhouse.

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Thanks for sharing your story, earlier.

Believe it or not, I have also played the Duck. A very large Duck, filled with 200,000 pounds of gas. I will tell that story, too, because you reminded me. Later.

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at Plattsburgh was a KC-97 pilot until the Stratobladder, KC-135, came along. He was chosen to participate very early in the program and flew it the remainder of his career. I deeply respected Barney, or as we called him, Colonel. He was an excellent commander and, as used to be the old tradition, was very likely the best pilot in the squadron. There was a lot to learn from the man and I was fortunate to have had his experience and wisdom.

To each his own but I detested flying tankers at the time. I couldn't wait to get as far away from them as I could and I did for six years. Then, they told me I was going back to them and I said no, voting instead with my feet. I turned down an early promotion to major and left for what turned out to be a wonderful life flying airliners all over the world. It was a good trade of dreams. It is only in retrospect and many years that I was able to see how much I was given by the experience. Some was really good and some not so much.

13-15 months a year sitting alert so we could refuel the guys carrying canned sunshine to the end of the world and two Januarys in Alaska ranked high in the not so much category. The worst point of alert came with a four hour real live no shit cockpit alert in middle of the night. The messages we received only told us to sit there ready to start engines for the beginning of the end of the world. We didn't know there was a Soviet nuke sub off the coast in severe distress after a fire. We only knew that we were cocked and locked waiting for the hammer to fall.

Central Alaska in January sucks unless you like -40 to -60 degrees F and ice fog. Flying over the extreme north part of the planet on operational missions supporting recon flight was very interesting. The sightseeing sucked as did a 12 hour flight. to nowhere. A save on three F-4s who were very short on gas following an air defense scramble and another on an RC-135 who ran short running from Russian fighters was rewarding. Like Alaska being on a very experienced but young crew who did everything a pilot could do in the tanker was a challenge for a new copilot. In 3 1/2 years I flew in every higher headquarters inspection, more operational missions, and more long haul over water fighter drags than any any of my peers. It wasn't my fault. I was simply lucky enough to get thrown in with a great bunch of up and comers. Their tutelage, extreme patience, and the shared experience helped me get to become an aircraft commander before I pinned on captain. Barnie offered to send me to instructor school if I wouldn't leave. I know now that was a really big deal for him to do but the stupid young kid I still was said I had to move closer to what I really wanted to do. I know it was the right choice for me, and one I could never have refused at the time, now that I have the benefit of a long life well lived.

Likewise, I have come to know that every one of the wars this country has fought in my life time was wrong. I thought otherwise as a young AF officer. It is what I had put all of my energy and passion into doing from the time I was five. There is no losing the understanding that war is a profitable business for those who would rule us, money and power for a few - death and destruction for everyone else. I suspect it always has been. I've never been able to come to the thinking of Howard Zinn that all war is immoral, wrong, and to be rejected regardless of the consequences. I can't quite get past a nagging thought that there might be a cause righteous enough to justify it. I keep hoping I'll evolve further on the subject and one day accept that all war is wrong. The only thing I know for sure is that I can't devolve to the positions of our "leaders".

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"Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now..."

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forget to say how much I enjoyed you post Bisbonian? Thank you.

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I had five squadron commanders. The first two, and the last two, were named Gary. Most of them were Vietnam era, great pilots. The middle one was Mike. He was a putz. The Gary's were all wonderful. I thought it was something about the name...but my current boss is both a Gary and a putz.

I managed to get to Alaska in the summertime, a few times. Alpha Longs, RC-135s, and it turned out to be me (once) that was almost out of gas. Limped home at L/D max at 43,000 feet, and barely made it.

Spent a week in Plattsburgh, too, in the fall. My copilot and I took our bikes. Rode around in the Adirondacks, and one day took the ferry over to Burlington. I had no idea, then, who Bernie was Smile Beautiful place. I would really like to go back.

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Sure seems strange for tanker pilots to talk about running out of gas doesn't it? The straight tubojet A model water wagons burned a lot of dinosaurs. We figured IIRC 18k# the first hour, then 16 the second, and then 12, and 10 every one after that for a rough estimate of what we needed although that was nearly always a given we had no control over. For a comparison, we used a rough average figure of 23k#/hour in the 747-400 for a full gross weight, 840k# airplane. I never flew a tanker that weighed over 300k# but used a very high fraction of the gas an airplane three times it's weight used. The last airplane, my favorite by far, was the A330 at over 500k# max GW. It averaged about 12-13k#/hr. It's a far cry from needing a 180k# fuel load on a 12 hour Alpha Long mission to offload only 5,000#. That's a lot of dinosaurs burned over a 23,00 hour career.

Back to the tanker and running out of gas. Twice I've thought I might end up swimming. The first was in Europe, May 1976. We did a fighter drag of A-7s back to the states. Well, actually our part was to meet them over Lands End, UK, and they met up with another formation of tankers just south of Greenland. There were four 5 ship cells on that mission. We were to lead the first cell but there was a new A/C who needed his local area checkout. The IP he flew with bumped us back to #5, his assigned spot, so the newbie could get theater lead qualified.

There's almost nothing that went right that day. Fighters were delayed by fog in Germany. We launched close to the end of out crew duty limits. The forecast winds west of the UK were way, way off and one of the tankers lost his transfer capability due to a bad boom coil. The new guy was a complete idiot. Several times we only knew about a climb when each a/c in turn got a face full of the one in front of them. He wouldn't ask for the required 2000' block altitude as things got nasty with all of us short of gas. The short story is we came back in a block 43-45,000'. The water wagons were like balancing one footed on top of a flag pole while juggling. It was very sensitive to power, bank, and pitch. That part was a good lesson. The worst was when we got close to Torrejon. He got a descent clearance for himself and told all of us to get our own. Everyone landed with well under 10k#. Our friend was sent home which is probably good because there were quite a few who wanted to catch him in a dark secluded spot. You know, so we could express our appreciation for scaring everyone to death.

The worst was landing with less than 5,000# at Lajes in 1977. It was another fighter drag, F-4s out of Seymor. Four of us were coming out of the 'burgh, joining up with the Peese deployer, and then the F-4s. Peese was fogged in and had to finally cancel. The F-4s had been trying for several days to get out of Seymor but been delayed by maintenance aborts. The plan changed to go with four of us. The lead, us as usual, would offload as planned but drag the fighters past our planned turn around point then land in Lajes after rondezous with the European TTF tankers. It sounded like a great deal. Everything was fine until late in the crossing one of the tankers lost offload capability. We took up the slack which left us very short. The TTF boys completely buggered up the rondezvous in brilliant sun and clear air. We saw them from 25 miles away but their lead ended up 10 miles behind his cell after forgetting to turn. Fortunately our nav told them to turn and the #2 tanker in the formation did. The F-4s scattered like a covey of quail and made it work. We declared an emergency, climbed to 45,000', here we are again, and landed with less than 5,000# showing on the gauges. We were very glad for light winds and clear skies in the Azores which is never a given.

I have to say that my squadron CCs were either fantastic or complete numb nuts. Barnie was my second one at Plattsburgh and was great as I said. The one before him I can't remember much. I had two at Reese. Both were former POWs and really good to work for. The second one was absolutely amazing. He really took good care of me. Then there was Randolph. ugh The guy who hired me wanted an experienced flight commander. I'd been one for almost a year and was a SOF upgrader. He told me I'd have a flight just as soon as I got off buddy IP, one class or about two months. Instead he had me working as a buck IP under a guy I'd fired at Reese the year before. Fortunately, Bob didn't get to write my ER. The second SQCC was a headquarters ATC weinie who had been at the headquarters most of his career. He never got qualified in the jet the entire time I worked in the squadron. He spent his whole day up in the headquarters knob polishing. I was lucky that they protected me OER wise and brought my string of 2 star endorsements up to four and sent me to Stan/Eval. The DCO was a carbon copy of the squadron commander. Neither had over 1500 hours flying time and were focused on everything, their careers especially, except producing great IPs for the UPT squadrons.

It's good I had them when I did. My tanker squadron was a good organization but the wing leadership was full of the same careerism BS I had a Randolph. Magnificent senior leadership at Reese made me forget how bad it could be. I appreciate the memory refreshing. The decision to quit with a promotion on the table was hard but not because I respected the leadership or management I'd experienced in over ten years. The flying I loved and it gave a firm foundation for everything that followed.

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and always carried what I learned there into flying the "R's". They really kicked our butts for a while, until we got used to all that power. We had never heard of a reduced thrust takeoff, of course!

Took off #2 in a two ship MITO behind my buddy at Edwards. 14,500' of runway, and we used every brick. His #4 water pump blew up at S-1. Water quit on #1 as well (it was wired that way, by then), so he had a fairly big loss of thrust, a very large bang, and when the water pump left, it took some of the cowling and fire loops with it, so he got a light. He decided not to fly, and pulled to the left side of the runway. I went right and passed him. He was still going pretty fast at the end, and made a hard left turn at the taxiway, where B-52 "Balls 8" (serial number 00008) was sitting, loading a "shape" under the wing, for testing. As I passed him, his brakes were on fire and he was careening around the corner, and he ran over the cowling of the #6 engine of the Buff, that was on a stand out in front of them. I laughed, and said "see ya, Kelly" over the radio. I spent my whole career flying with Kelly, and always the bad stuff happened to him, not me. We ended up together in Cairo, and then the Gulf War together, too. He came home one night so low on fuel that when he hit a bump on the taxiway, he tipped back so far and the nosewheel strut somehow came loose from the splines, and he couldn't steer.

My typical mission there was a five ship of tankers taking 10 F-117s north to just west of Baghdad, dropping them off to do their thing, rejoining with them south of the border, and taking them home. We had sort of practiced that for a couple weeks before the war...figuring out how to rejoin with absolutely no lights or radio calls, but we never went north of the Border. For 40 years, tanker guys had been saying, "hey, wouldn't it be neat if we had a radar warning receiver?" "No. You'll never be used beyond the Forward Edge of the Battle Area (FEBA), you don't need it." "How about some chaff?" "NO." So, the night of January 17th, 2001, I went down into the skiff with four other tanker crews. A major rolled a chart out on a long table, and we all gathered around to look. We were going north of the border. The Lt. Colonel who was supposed to lead the gaggle refused. "We'll never be used beyond the FEBA". The major said, "you don't understand, Colonel, this is war, this is where you are going." He still refused. The major looked around the room, saw me (young Captain) and said, "You...you're lead. This is where you are going." So night one, I took five tankers (195K fuel loads, 320,000lb airplanes), ten F-117s with two 2000lb bombs apiece, six F-15s for air cover, and two EF-111s, and went to Baghdad. Night two was kind of funny. No escort...just us and the stealth jets. AWACS saw five tankers, and nothing else, headed to Baghdad, and they "brass monkeyed" us. (I can't remember the actual codeword, but we were used to "Brass Monkey" from Europe, and we turned around. The F-117s were furious...they had +/- 1 second on their TOT (time over target), so the mission was over. AWACS caught a lot of hell, and over the next month, things settled into pretty much a routine.

Very good buddy of mine from the Zoo was doing the same thing, but one night one of his F-117s ran out of gas heading south after a messed up bomb run. Dave did what one of our commanders had done in Vietnam...ran back over the border to get him. Caught up to the guy in a dive, hooked him on the boom, and started pumping. The 117 got the motors going, and they all go home okay. Dave got a Silver Star out of the deal.

"The flying I loved and it gave a firm foundation for everything that followed." Yeah. Those still around reading us yakking at each other probably think we're really a couple of gung ho military jocks Wink The truth is, we were trained to do our job in spite of everything. I was more afraid of screwing up than I was of all the flak. Do your job, in all sorts of rotten conditions; take care of your crew. That's what I still do today.

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still here Barnie giving his water takeoff spiel. He'd been living with those things since the early days of the -135. I guess 16 or 17 years helps a guy get his words together because he said more in fewer words than anyone I ever heard try to brief it. I know he sure clarified it for this newbie.

There are two water takeoffs I'll never forget. I think the first was in late spring 1977 at Plattsburgh. We were the first tanker departure for the ORI. Beautiful morning with a north wind. North was bad news for heavy tankers at the 'burgh. Rising terrain off the end of the runway coupled with the rising temperatures significantly cut into our allowable takeoff weight. There was far too much wind to consider a tailwind takeoff. They adjusted our fuel load a couple times to be sure we'd be able to launch. The takeoff was fairly normal for being heavy on a north launch. Normal meaning we were able to closely inspect the departure end overrun and field boundary fence. I remember it was a Sunday not because I have a good memory but because there was a Howard Johnsons restaurant next to the Northland Mall a couple miles off the end of the runway. The place was packed every Sunday morning. They must have heard us coming, the dead could hear that beast in blast off mode, because they were pouring out of the restaurant. I don't think we were more than 300' above them as we went by. The show was repeated many times all day as the full wing launched to prove we could do our wartime jobs.

The second, and most memorable, was at Torrejon in May 1976. 15,000' of runway near Madrid, Spain, and we were too heavy to launch. Calm winds and 90 degrees equaled not enough runway. The calm winds were considered two knots of tailwind for takeoff data calculation and that was way too much. Rising temperatures made us recalculate the data several times before the tower controller got the message that calling any wind that was not from our tail would get the first cell of five tankers out of his way on the taxiway. The A/C, Henry, had been ahead of the game and requested that the MA1A "rabbit catcher" net barrier at the far end of the runway be taken down. He was afraid we snag it at liftoff. Good call. We took all 15, 000' to get airborne. The rotation was with about 1000' left. I'm reaching for the gear handle following Henry's call and Vince, the nav, says "110 seconds of water". The water usually ran for two minutes and was meant to get us to 1000' above the ground where we slowed to a minimal climb and retracted the flaps. Most of the time it was enough to get the flaps at least started up. Getting them out of the 25 degree position is pretty important because once airborne that setting is pure drag. The water ran out at 300' and we all but stopped climbing. Forget accelerating. Remember Ho Jos at the 'burgh? Well, there is a new multi-story apartment complex about 3-4 miles just off the center line of the runway. We went by the third floor windows level and slowly accelerating. I can still see dozens of really big eyes on the balconies. About the same time we had the speed to start the flaps up. The climb out was more normal once we got to 15 degrees of flaps but we were still abnormally low and loud. I know Bisbonian knows exactly how loud a tanker is at takeoff power but those of you who don't would need to experience it to appreciate what an airshow we put on for a lot of miles while trying to get cleaned up, accelerated, and climbing. We missed every altitude restriction (with prior coordination) that were in place for both air traffic separation and noise mitigation. Torrejon was only to be used another year or two after that and I'm sure the TTF tankers inability to meet noise sensitivity standards was a prime reason.

I've heard the first night stories from the F-117 driver's viewpoint. I knew one of the initial group of F-117 pilots and I've flown with a couple of the guys who went downtown Baghdad. They praised the tanker crews as much as they cursed the planners and weather guessers for those first few nights. One of them mentioned tankers crossing the FEBA which I find sort of shocking. They did it in North Viet Nam but only in dire circumstances. Before I joined the crew Henry, Vince, Dave (the other copilot), and "Bullet" (22 caliber brain on a 16" gun body - great boomer but a disaster off duty) had all done Young Tiger. (Two 1LTs, a 2LT, and a buck sgt! That's the guys I got stuck with as a newbie. What luck.) They spoke of flying anchors close to NVN but crossing the line is not smart. Good on ya.
Regarding your last point. The worst mistake the Viet Nam war protesters and the left made was their treatment of the guys in uniform. Yeah, the senior military leadership was gutless for not saying no and shuffling off to retirement. The thousands of draftees and everyone else had no recourse other than long prison sentences. The civilian leaders decide and the military does what it is ordered to do. I for one don't ever want it to be otherwise despite the flaws. At the level of a small unit or a crew you take care of each other, try to do your job as required, and get on with it. Being spat on for trying to walk a line between equally bad choices is hard to take. Many in that position and who supported stopping the war were turned against the anti-war movement over mistreatment from those who meant well. Meaning well isn't ever enough. Pressure has to be placed on those who make the high level decisions. That is our elected officials. Fortunately, I think the anti-war movement has learned that lessons. I sure hope so or they won't have any effect when our betters once again think it's just glorious to send someone else's children to kill, be killed, and destroy some country that won't submit to their will.

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We had long since transitioned to the big motors, so my copilot only knew "Rs". They gave us a water wagon for our flight training, though. I just laughed..."Co, START THE WATER!" The scared look on his face Smile

On alert, we used to brief, "First one out takes out the ILS antenna, the rest of us will climb on the fireball."

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Barney's great water briefing made water takeoffs go smoothly but I'd be lying. I'll borrow and mangle an old Army bit of wisdom and say that the jet always gets a vote.

I was fairly new despite having sat the last ever alert at Goose Bay, done numerous fighter drags over the Atlantic, and done Alaska and Spain TDYs. Way less than a year on the bird and I'd been 3/4 of the way around the world. Much of my newness had to do with the two copilot crew. I essentially got one sortie a month actually flying the jet. Need it or not. I was also still a few months away from losing my horrible attitude and the chip on my shoulder from getting so badly screwed on assignments. Anyway, we were doing a FASAGA, first sortie after ground alert, on an airplane. The rules for an effective sortie, big on the Wing's report card, were hard and fast. Things like no maintenance could be performed on the airplane that had not been scheduled before being replaced on alert. We had to be on time for engine start and departure, use the water system if conditions permitted, and complete the planned refueling and celestial navigation leg. I'm sure there were a bunch more but that is the important ones as I recall nearly 40 years later.

The water takeoff was always a big one. It was a single point failure of the sortie waiting to happen. The system was complex, finicky, but at least it was unpredictable. IIRC the takeoff had to be rolling, simulating a MITO. The A/C would push the power up to a certain point and call for starting the water pumps before advancing the power. There was a noticeable increase in power indications on the gauges when water took. Good technique, and staying on the runway, required that all four engines show water boost functioning before pushing up the power to takeoff thrust. This was often a three handed dance: the pilot flying getting them into the right range and the other pilot working to keep them together. That is to avoid an asymmetric thrust situation which at low speed could make directional control, staying on the runway, dicey. The non-flying pilot ensured the proper power setting was attained and all of this had to be done by 80 knots, I think. The heavy jet accelerated like a square bowling ball but all the dancing around of hands could make it hard to do. Especially for a newbie.

It is not a well known fact but the Stratobladder throttles were connected to the fuel controls with rubber bands. True. Lowest bidder thing I've been told. A lucky crew had an airplane with four identical rubber bands. I was not very lucky on this day. One of the outboards didn't want to take water. I pushed and pushed on that throttle until it took. Henry's standing on the opposite rudder trying to keep going straight down the runway. It finally takes and he pushes everything up to takeoff power when I notice the slow engine is now over the takeoff power limit. I swear I didn't pull that damn throttle back more than a knob width than it dropped out of water. Poor Henry had just relaxed and now he's standing on the opposite rudder as I'm trying to push the throttle back in the right range hoping to regain water. Just as Henry stops us drifting it takes. What else, right? A fast rudder swap and we're off. Dancing with the stars participants don't do foot work like that. His achievement was documented by the SOF's radio remark, "Water troubles Hank?" I took some shit for that one.

I won't go into detail but I've been known to help out the nav too. One night following his three star shorts, a bunch of rummaging through his bag, and a loud,"WTF?" A tap on my shoulder and a map shoved in my face was accompanied by, "Hey asshole. WTF did you do?" There is a nice triangle, BIG triangle, drawn on his chart covering most of the northeast US. Vince says, "We're somewhere in that triangle because your stupid ass can't stay on heading and airspeed." Oh. "Now Bullet and I are doing this again in about a minute. Don't fuck it up." I love learning experiences.

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I am referring to this here:

Those were the depleted uranium shooters, and they were shooting everything that moved on a certain highway out of Kuwait. I was really very glad I didn't end up flying A-10s, like some of my friends.

Was this a highway out of Kuweit near the Al Jaber Air Force base leading into Iraq direction to Baghdad? In the beginning weeks or first months of the Iraq invasion?

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box, instead of the reply button. New habits to form. Sorry.

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I was there in 1991. The invasion took the same route, in 2003. There are videos, which I can't watch, and therefore can't post...but this has only still photos, and plenty of text: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death
I later ('93) met two Iraqi (Republican Guard) soldiers, back in the states. I was in physical therapy, after surgery on my finger. One of them was in physical therapy on the same schedule, recovering from a bullet wound to his shoulder. The scar was only visible when he raised his hands straight over his head. The other spoke English, and acted as his translator. They were then working for a moving company in the Phoenix area.

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on the ground in the 2003 invasion. "Schuftarbeit" of the little guys. Thanks.

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because I was a kid and some of the astronauts had gone there and I wanted to be an astronaut.

Then I got a little older and started understanding what Vietnam was and the idea of the AFA was right off. When I graduated high school I went straight to Hippie College.

Now that I hear all about how Christianist the AFA is I'm glad I dropped the idea so long ago. I'm also glad I goofed off in my senior year so my grades ended up not being good enough for Princeton. That would have been a drag, too!

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To fly to all and every. All and every place, I could think of. To be.

Then, one day, I ate some mushrooms. And: there they were.

And they are with me. To this day.

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They gave a lot of people wings.

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Probably everybody does.

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into High School. I didn't understand what it was at all, until I spent a whole semester on it at the Academy. Then I learned that we would have won, if it weren't for those damned hippies! I had some academic problems there at "the Zoo". I failed two classes, over the years, because I wrote things that were frowned upon. But I really did get a fantastic education, and it hadn't gone full-on christianist yet (though it was starting). I hated it, and would rather have gone to hippie college many times (where WAS that?), but looking back from here, I am glad that I went. I came out with a much deeper understanding of the world than I would have gotten anywhere else. Not necessarily by design.

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tried to go to the college. Then I went to the planet.

When we did the show up in Portland, some businessman, just walkin' around on the street, came in; we charged a buck, and for a buck you got to see us make all our noise, and the Dead make all their noise, and anything else that happened.

This guy was in a suit, and he had an umbrella. He got the customary cup of stuff. And about midnight, you could see him really get movies-man-of-steel-outer-space.jpgripped. Somebody who'd probably never been anything but drunk on beer. But he looked around, and he saw all these strange people, and he looked down, and the spotlight was showing down on him, and he saw his shadow.

And he stands up straight, puts that umbrella over his shoulder, and he says:

"The king walks."

And:

"The king turns around."

And:

"Now the king will dance."


—Ken Kesey

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had I been shown the way. I am glad you got to. We are all richer for it.

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every day. On this path. I am no richer. Than anybody.

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Thank you so much, Bisbonian. That was really well said. Thank you and thanks to vtcc73 for sharing. In a comment to another posting, I remarked that I thought that our generation had learned a lesson from Viet Nam...that all the draftees would go home and never allow that to happen again. I was sure wrong. Far as I can tell, the purpose of war is to make money. Started wising up when I learned that Ladybird owned a large interest in Brown and Root who built all the harbors, roads, airbases in Viet Nam and sold Texas rice to the Army to feed Vietnam POW's. Someday I would like to know how our generation could see what we saw, learn what we did by paying the price that we paid and then do it all over again. It does not bode well for the future.

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The powerful learned two things from Viet Nam: control the press access to combat and end the draft. A captured press won't report bad stuff and can be shown only what the command wants seen without complaint. They won't ask questions or complain if their access and keeping their job is at risk. That's pretty devious but making sure the elites' kids and unwilling draftees don't have to fight and die is plain cynical. "They knew what they signed up for" is a bullshit answer but for some unbelievable reason we accept it.

Your Voltaire quote is one of my favorites. Getting most of the population to believe the absurdities is the media's primary job. That's one reason they have to find a way to grant only controlled access. And, no, your generation likely won't learn. I see promise in all of my young friends but their attitudes are the same as so many I opposed as a young cadet and officer. You know, the attitudes I have since learned are correct. I was as wrong then as I am younger in my thinking now. Please don't forget or allow the cynicism of age wear you down to the point you accept the absurdities.

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Halliburton and Monsanto for Republicans. Little white jets for DiFi (Astar Air Cargo)

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This piece was good!

I recall a hard to catch at times movie, (in our era of eternal war it may be they do not want to show any versions of "All quiet on the Western Front".
My favorite part was an idea some of the protagonists spoke, "Maybe next time they want to have a war, why not let all those old men go into a stadium full of clubs and bats and let them fight it out instead of making everyone else go fight for them?"

It makes me wonder how fast they would speak of going to war if it were their own asses on the line, not someone else's kids?

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as activists such as Veterans for Peace and Iraq Veterans Against War

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A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.

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Great spokesman for IVAW (Iraq Veterans Against War), fantastic banjo player. I love the guy.
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"Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth,
And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;
Sunward I've climbed and joined the tumbling mirth of sun-split clouds -
and done a hundred things You have not dreamed of -
wheeled and soared and swung high in the sunlit silence.
Hovering there I've chased the shouting wind along
and flung my eager craft through footless halls of air.

"Up, up the long delirious burning blue
I've topped the wind-swept heights with easy grace,
where never lark, or even eagle, flew;
and, while with silent, lifting mind I've trod
the high untrespassed sanctity of space,
put out my hand and touched the face of God."

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I'm being polite Smile I know everybody else loves it. I have heard it 10 thousand times, always associated with lots of propaganda...and it just make me want to puke. But I appreciate the gesture.

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there was 24/7 tv, the local station used to sign off with that "surly bonds of earth" horseshit. And then we knew we had stayed up too late. And it would be another four hours, before we could buy more beer.

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He memorized it. He was good at that sort of thing. Memorized Gunga Din. Sheesh!

It made me think of him. (Obviously) no offense meant.

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was forced to recite it on command. Kind of ruined it.

Did your brother tell you there was no such thing as a perfectly good airplane?

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what do we do now?

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doesn't involve getting us into another war.

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Gosh man, I would have loved to fly. I originally joined the service to become a helicopter pilot, I had the scores but not the education and wound up in the field artillery, 155 self propelled. A couple of times a year we loaded up on c135s, just to see how fast we could load up. Never went anywhere, did my whole time at Ft. Sill, OK, fucking dust bowl USA. At least I was close to Dallas, my home.

The answer to your question, The Purpose of war, is in the linked video I made.
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Also Field Artillery, but had the good (Mis)fortune to be assigned to the 3d ACR, so I got to be Cav as well as a gun bunny.

Ft. Hood, TX here. Except for the part where I was in Iraq.

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I do not pretend I know what I do not know.

Sometimes we forget the truth, because it is so ugly it is difficult to carry on a daily basis. But I want my eyes open, so thank you for providing this valuable perspective.

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