if Bernie were in the debates as the Green Party nominee. Of course it'd be cooler if he were the Dem nominee instead of Artillary but that probably ain't gonna happen because fucking Obama isn't gonna allow Lynch to indict the first female and the first female criminal nominee of a major party and the FBI director is pissing around twiddling his thumbs anyhow and the blowhards Assange and Putin aren't going to release anything worth a shit and all the states Bernie won won't be able to get their shit in court in time to stop this corrupt POS and trump ain't gonna beat her even if he is the nominee because 1. he can't keep his stupid mouth shut and 2. if clinton can steal the election from Bernie she can do it to trump. Screw it. Time for bed...

Hence the immeasurably more favorable coverage they give to Johnson.

With Stein, it's always prefaced by "Perennial Candidate" or "The Usual Green Party Candidate"

How many states is he on the ballot on? And if the answer is more than 21, then why is it so easy for him to declare he's running, get ballot access, and be included, while Jill Stein and the Green Party are struggling to meet deadlines and petition thresholds?

Please excuse my ignorance, but I do wonder if anyone here can answer that for me. Thanks

Dr. Stein is well-spoken, together, speaks truth (to us not-neoliberals) and if put in stage next to that other woman would make TOW look haggard and sound weasely (sorry, AB).

as Ralph Nader said in his POTUS run in 2000: "If we can get 5, 10, 15 million people as a counterweight, we can begin to frighten the power elite."

Ross Perot's historic 1992 record was 20 million votes, 19% of voters, as Independent Party candidate. However there are a lot of unknowns in the 2016 political season, but I predict something closer to 10 million for Green this year.

BTW 1992 was the year when the book "Votescam: The Stealing of America" was published, a book which was kept largely off the market in the US. It detailed vote fraud permeating the American political system.

"Virtually all the vote counting equipment is produced and programmed by a few corporations with right-wing ties. There is strong and pervasive forensic evidence that vote counts are being shifted to the right, altering many election outcomes. " from Jonathan Simon's book, http://codered2014.com/

I met Jill Stein last Friday evening. I was very impressed. It was a small gathering. In fact I had her all to myself for something like 15 minutes at the beginning. Later in the evening, after more people filed in, one guest got contentious, more like combative, with a weird issue and JS handled it like a pro. She didn't get snarly like Hillary does and she has ready answers and speaks frankly on the fly. I have no doubt in a debate she would be very hard to beat. She's already on the ballot in my state.

Does anyone know the exact rules?

According to my son, the party needs >15% in a poll. The only poll (to our knowledge) with Hill, T, Jill, Johnson & Bernie as Indy had Bernie at 18%! with Jill & Johnson each less than 15%. Does this really mean Bernie has a place on that stage? If so, he wins the presidency.

This is not meant to dilute the effort to strengthen Greens, but I still would prefer Bernie.