Pelosi Goes Bigly Bonkers...Again
Well, RT.com calls it ‘Berserk’; some called it ‘unhinged’: ‘Nancy Pelosi goes BERSERK when Wolf Blitzer challenges her on pandemic relief talks, calls CNN 'apologists' for the REPUBLICANS’, 14 Oct, 2020
When even *CNN* and *Wolf Blitzer* are grilling Nancy Pelosi on why Democrats continue to reject any and all Republican stimulus offers, you know Dems might be playing politics. Watch as Pelosi snaps after failing to answer a basic question about why they won't compromise. pic.twitter.com/Nt2hagv2Us
— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) October 13, 2020
Spoiler alert -- it got even more intense. Pelosi was totally unhinged. pic.twitter.com/mm3lFyeTjT
— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) October 13, 2020
Rewinding to halfway through, Blitzer wonders if Pelosi doesn't want to do a deal so she can keep Trump from notoriety, she lost it: "With all due respect, with all due respect — and you know we’ve known each other a long time, you really don't know what you're talking about." pic.twitter.com/EIM6RRgkSr
— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) October 13, 2020
“Blitzer then tried to wrap up the interview, but both he and Pelosi resisted giving each other the last word. After Pelosi again told him he was wrong on the issue, Blitzer said, “It's not about me, it's about millions of Americans who can't put food on the table, who can't pay the rent.” Pelosi then talked over the host, saying, “We represent them, and we know them.”As Blitzer again hinted that the interview was ending, thanking Pelosi, she snarked, “Thank you for your sensitivity to our constituents' needs,” to which the host replied, “I am sensitive to them because I see them on the street begging for food, begging for money.” Pelosi was again triggered, saying, “Have you fed them? We feed them. We feed them.”
Here's how the interview ended (after just over 14 minutes). Pelosi kept trying to have the last word, including probing Blitzer on whether he feeds and gives money to poor people on the streets of D.C. because, in her words, "we" (as in the federal government) "feed[s] them." pic.twitter.com/E95ZZJeToi
— Curtis Houck (@CurtisHouck) October 13, 2020
‘Trump proposes $1.8T coronavirus relief package’, Oct. 9, 2020, thehill.com
“Inching closer to Democrats’ demands, President Trump and his aides on Friday offered Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) a $1.8 trillion coronavirus relief package, sources said, as the president urged the negotiators to “go big.”
The new figure was a jump from the White House’s $1.6 trillion offer last week, but there was no indication that Pelosi would come down from her demand for a $2.2 trillion package.
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“In one concession, the White House is raising its offer on emergency aid for cash-strapped cities and states to $300 billion, up from a $250 billion offer last week, sources said. A bill passed by House Democrats last week calls for $436 billion in aid for state and local governments.”
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“Today, the Secretary returned to the table with a proposal that attempted to address some of the concerns Democrats have,” Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill tweeted. “Of special concern, is the absence of an agreement on a strategic plan to crush the virus. For this and other provisions, we are still awaiting language from the Administration as negotiations on the overall funding amount continue.”
Last week her gripes were no bucks for child care nor her Heroes Act, as in the interview.
And the Word from on High is: 'Bill Gates says life will return to normal only after SECOND generation of Covid vaccines rolled out and virus eliminated globally', 12 Oct, 2020 , RT.com
p.s. I sure hope I've finally gotten all the Tweet in order; the first time I'd screwed up, then every program I'd had up crashed and burned, an I'd had to befin again.
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Just "calm down"
talk about being past ones "due date" Nancy personifies it!
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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
past sell-by date,
indeed. one foot in her dementia grave, the other on a banana peel.
go shahid!
Is she being primaried? My God she is awful.
I'm really thinking it's time for term limits since the two year turn over isn't working. Maybe limit to four for the House and two for the Senate??
The staff is another problem. They are lifers.
Thanks Wendy.
A society grows great when old men plant trees in whose shade they know they shall never sit. Allegedly Greek, but more possibly fairly modern quote.
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welcome.
oopsie, it looks as though marie has said buttar's been #MeTooed. shit, oh dear. too late in the day for him to ask for his day in court.
Pelosi has never been known for being articulate
on policy. That makes her weak as the public face of the House Democrats and Democrats in general.
She's the Democratic House leader for one reason: she's a super fundraiser among wealthy people. She speaks their language and they aren't too interested in policy.
As long as she remains the top dog in the House, SF voters will no more toss her ass out of office than KY voters will do the same to McConnell. Same seems to be true for Schumer, another lame party leader.
Meant to include that I agree with this -
And they should stop calling it a "stimulus." Until the virus is well contained, it's welfare and trillion dollar deals every few months will be necessary. Once contained, a "stimulus" would be appropriate to kick start the economy.
Perhaps let's not use the term "welfare",
even though it is accurate: that word causes republicans to go completely apoplectic, and will result in nothing but knee-jerk opposition and the dragging-out of the tired old welfare-queen trope. Again.
Instead, let's call it a temporary lifeline, or stipend, or a freeze-to-death-delayer; anything but "welfare". The connotation index for that word is entirely negative as seen by "conservatives" in the current world.
Think of it the way any good propagandist does. Which would you rather have- a nice, thick, juicy steak, or a segment of muscle tissue torn from the carcass of an immature, castrated bull? Kinda like that.
Twice bitten, permanently shy.
Time for UBI?
A start and let it grow?
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
you may disagree,
of course, but my guess is that any sort (dollar amount) of UBI would lead to every other remaining parts of the social safety net blinking out.
ack, i was about to go into the reasons i don't like michael hudson's calling for a Debt Jubilee instead, but it won't happen.
Which...
...if the amounts were set properly wouldn't be a bad thing. The current patchwork of aid programs doesn't represent careful system design, it was simply the product of the political process passing whatever they could get the votes for at the time. We could do worse than to simplify and replace all of it with a single, universal payment and Medicare for All.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
UBI should replace it
It's optics. Right now, low wage owners resent welfare. "I'm working my ass off and they get money for not working." So give everyone enough money to live. Of course, taxes have to go up to pay for it and it all comes out in the wash, but it looks different. We do save the money of tracking and verifying income and processing applications.
Re Jubilee. Could work. FED prints their funny money crediting the US government. Government pays off the bankers. (You didn't think the bankers would wind up holding the bag, did you? They own Congress and Biden.) Then the banks will push new auto loans, mortgages and student loans and spend-aholics will apply for them.
Re banks owning Biden. it's obvious from his 40 year record that he's their B-word. Trump? Trump is so erratic that he's a loose cannon. they want reliable lackey's. can't get much more reliable than Biden. and when it's obvious that he's drooling senile, Harris is their, their reliable "House N___". Sorry to use that term but it fits. And it fit Obama. More than one black person has told me privately that they were extremely disappointed in Obama and only defended him because he was their Black President. Can't blame them. We worked with Tea party members and I would have done the same in their shoes. In fact, I remember telling one who called him a communist. "No, he's not a Communist. If he was he'd be better!"
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Let's do.
We're so awash in euphemisms in this country that senior rightwingers carry "Keep government hands off my Medicare" placards. It dumbs down the populace.
There were far more effective and fairer ways that the first shutdown could have been managed other than checks signed by Donald Trump. Those were welfare checks.
Well contained?
What does that mean? I have no earthly idea what would constitute "well contained." I would certainly like to see it happen. I once posted a thread here called How Do We Know When We Have Won or Lost? It had some interesting comments, but no final answer to the question.
Here is what I got out the discussion:
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I did not use the verb, contain, on that thread. It is an interesting thought, to "contain" a contagious disease. How does that work?
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Check out China, S. Korea,
That does not tell me anything
We are not China, Vietnam, Korea or New Zealand. Whatever they did successfully, we have not. So how do we get from here to there -- from out of control to contained? And how low does the infection rate have to go before we can say it is contained? Is the death rate relevant? Several folks have sneered at the idea of looking at the death rate as a measure of success in fighting the virus. What is your view on that?
On this very board I was hectored for not knowing how to compare countries. The US can be compared to Spain but not to Sweden. I am keen to now why Sweden is not relevant but New Zealand is.
Finally, I love the reference to China -- a one-party police state. It had no trouble ordering its citizens to obey the dictates of Science. It would be so cool if our people would voluntarily do what is necessary to contain the virus. Seven months in, we are obviously too selfish and stupid to do what Science orders us to do. Sixty plus million of us are Trump voters who refuse to use their addled brains as they merrily spread death around.
The anger at dumb shit Trump supporters who do not obey Science is one of the few things about this moment of social dissolution that I find amusing. We are not eradicating the disease as it was done successfully on the other side of the Pacific because we are, collectively, too stupid to obey. Instead of making any effort to persuade the ignorant, the Solution is to insult these folks relentlessly and to plan on beating them in the civil war that their Trumpenfurher is plotting.
Since unity is impossible with THAT sort of people, the Shelter In Place Strategy was doomed from the start.
So, I repeat, how do we get from chaos to victory over the virus?
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
With your mindset
you'll never bother to rationally review what was done in China, S. Korea, Vietnam, and New Zealand. Only China ordered a hard lockdown in Hubei province (nobody in and nobody out) and other hot spot locations for a shorter period of time. S. Korea didn't lock down at all -- except for schools for a few weeks. There were no lockdowns in the freedom loving U.S? So poorly done that they resulted in all the negative and few of the positive expectations of such a blunt hammer.
Each of those countries had particular strengths and advantages in dealing with the virus. On community spirit and cooperation Vietnam ranks the highest. China is also high. On government transparency and honesty wrt to the virus, S. Korea and Vietnam rank the highest, but NZ and China weren't too shabby. On preexisting medical systems and resources, S. Korea and New Zealand were best placed. Those countries along with many other Asian countries don't have to order mandatory masks because the people there already know to don masks when ill.
Do you even know that one of the first things done in Wuhan was to designate one hospital for Covid-19 patients, when that one ran out of room they set up temporary hospitals in whatever public spaces that could be requisitioned and began building a new temporary hospital? Think through what their process avoided.
No help, huh?
With your mindset, you cannot understand the simple point I am making -- we are in chaos. I am trying to understand how we can get beyond it. Your snide response is exactly the problem -- sneering with indignation at how mentally challenged anybody is who does not shut up about the absurdity of our situation.
It is absurd. China is a one party police state. That gives their society very distinct advantages in applying the requisite social discipline that you cite approvingly. This is not to say that I have a big problem with China -- their society is a lot older and wiser than ours. I would not like to live in a one party police state, but I really don't like living in this chaotic fake democracy either. Just a malcontent, I guess.
I remain anxious to hear how this will end. Turning us into China, Vietnam, Korea or New Zealand is not in the cards. For better or worse, we are an unruly people who chafe at regimentation. That was true before the experts decided for us to try to "contain" the virus through social distancing and masks. In the collective group think of Team Lockdown, the failure of their policy is not their failure -- it was the refusal of idiots to do what was needed.
Team Lockdown looks at that as something to blame other people about. The theory was perfect as proven by several other countries -- but our people just aren't up to snuff. For Team Lockdown and their Democratic Party advocates, the only thing wrong with this country is its citizenry that is too stupid to understand science.
Why didn't that occur to those experts before they tasked the citizenry with giving up their personal plans -- and, for millions of Americans -- their livelihood and their future? Having grotesquely miscalculated the ability of this society and its corrupt government to achieve unity in fighting the virus, it appears to me that the primary effort of Team Lockdown is hiding from their own record of failure and social dissolution and amping up The Blame Game on Trump and his millions of ignorant followers.
It is always nice to have somebody to blame when your policy blows up.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Without taking sides here...
And I think you both have good points, it will burn itself out. There was no magic bullet for the Spanish flu, nor a vaccine (had vaccines been invented?). It passed through the population burning its way until it had mutated into a less dangerous form.
Now you are going say, "How can you be sure that will happen?"
It's the mathematics of evolution. A parasite that kills its host is unfit to its environment. Less deadly forms are more successful at survival and propagation. What we do with vaccines is attempted genocide (which I'm in favor of for viruses & certain bacteria/fungi).
EDIT: several typos. I see the opthamologist next week. He's tring to control a leaky vein in my left eye.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Outstanding Post
You make the most important point of all in this almost entirely avoided debate -- prior infectious disease in the history of the world, even the Black Death, eventually "burning its way through the population." I have seen it argued on this board that there is no proof that "herd immunity" applies to this virus -- but I am not sure if your expression embodies the concept of herd immunity. In any event, that argument looks to me like a reversal of the burden of proof in order to avoid answering this all-important question. Since I cannot "prove" that his virus will run its course, we all have to shut up about that possibility.
Lots of sophistry like that reversal of the burden of proof coming from Team Lockdown and I am very suspicious about that dimension of this public discussion.
I really do not have a "side" other than my angry demand for straight answers from the people who have destroyed the civilization I had known through 67 years of life. Some have pointed out that other than my personal desire for continuity, that "civilization" was the pits and it is a good thing that air travel, hotels, shopping malls and office buildings are suddenly obsolete. I really don't have an argument against that -- except that I am not sure that the rotten aspects of Modern Technological Society are the only ones to be crippled by our response to the pandemic.
I do not take a side on how serious the virus is or how many people it will kill and how many it will torment for the rest of time. I just want the self satisfied, self righteous, and self qualitied experts on public health policy to give straight answers to the basic questions of how and when do the restrictions end. I returned snippy for snippy when I got told that my "mindset" was incapable of understanding my own question.
Your point about how infectious diseases have previously run a course raises the most important issue in all of American history. What is the worst case scenario of following the previous strategy of isolating the sick and vulnerable? I have not heard of any such estimate and I would welcome you or any random reader of this discussion to post it.
My point remains that this entire seven month long night mare might or might not make sense, depending upon the answer to that question. We know what the downside risk of the cure is -- that is a done deal and there is nothing we can do about the destruction of our social order. In dollars, the price is around 10-20 trillion dollars, so far. Imagine what we could have done in terms of fighting the infection through treatment of victims with that kind of money.
But that is just the funny money cash cost so far. The eviction "spike" has been "flattened" by some of that funny money, but at least 10 million families will be kicked out of their homes over the next six months or so. At the other end of the winner-loser assessment, some windfall profit businesses, like Amazon and Fed Ex, will be the base for the "economy" to come. Whoopee!
So, if it can be "proven" that you are mistaken about the virus eventually burning itself out like the Spanish flu, and that this "novel" phenomenon will last forever, then the forever lockdown argument makes sense.
In the absence of that assessment, we are following our "leadership" blindly hoping that somebody up the chain of command knows what they are doing. That blind hope is now seven months old and the only way to maintain it is to keep your eyes shut.
My bitch remains the refusal of Team Lockdown to answer this fundamental question -- when will you ever get around to letting us all know how this shit can end? Up to now, just asking that question brings down the snarks and sneers and accusations of having the wrong "mindset."
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
I'd like that answer too.
My guess is after Biden is inaugurated. At that point all the political gain will have been milked,
But I'm old and cynical. I once was hpefull but Bernie's second surrender and going over to the enemy convinced me that there is no hope. The world be knew, the brief span between Hiroshima and the scramble to get out of Saigon before the NVA rolled in, is gone. In a book I have about the Austrian and German Weimar time inflation, the story is recounted of a woman, the widow of a pensioner reacting in horror as her banker suggests she sell her government bonds and (illegally) put her money into Swiss Francs. "But what can be more secure than government bonds?" "Madam, the government that issued those bonds is dead!" Will we hear this about US Treasury's?
Now is survival time. Now is the time to remember the stories of our grandparents and great-grandparents and emulate there desire, not to excel, but to stay alive and keep their children alive.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Now is survival time.
It is so weird. I have known since the 1970s that something like this was bound to happen. Too many people burning up too much fossil fuel on a global scale, and within the USA, the Baby Boom was a demographic time bomb that would make the old age of my generation a night mare. You can't have a society with a third of the population on the dole. In theory, I guess a compassionate yet rational polity could easily work out any of a several share-the-wealth schemes -- but we are neither compassionate nor rational.
Full of that cynical wisdom, I still feel like an abandoned child as my plans for an interesting and productive "retirement" have been blown to smithereens by this inexplicable social catastrophe.
I should just chill out about it, but I am not able to, not just yet. I am looking for answers . . . .
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
I hear you, but object to SS being "on the dole"
Employees and employers paid taxes for that. If the taxes were insufficient and/or mismanaged that does not make the workers beggars. It makes the government managers incompetent and/or thieves.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Just a minor semantic issue
It was a sloppy use of the word, "dole" on my part. You are right that it implies a gift rather than something you earn.
I was using it the broader sense of income transfer, which SS is. Although you pay in throughout your life, the specific dollars deducted from your paycheck are only tangentially connected to the schedule of payments that you receive in retirement.
Whether you put your own money in the bank all your life or whether you rely on SS, in either case, the "money" you spend in retirement is utterly unrelated in buying power to the dollars you put into the system over the course of your working life. And when fewer people are producing value and more people are spending money for value, what a dollar will buy shrinks. Hyperinflation is a real threat now as so much fiat money has been created all around the world over the last several months.
My inaccurate use of the word, dole, was my short way of saying that a society cannot have more than it produces. To be sure, stealing from other people in the form of imperialism worked for several centuries to avoid that reality, but empires now cost money rather produce it.
There are better ways to distribute overall production, and it is hard to imagine a worse one than neoliberalism. But the more people taking without producing, the less there is for everybody.
Of course the real dole is inherited wealth and a lifetime of coupon clipping. Produce nothing and spend too much -- the life of the idle rich. As I mentioned, taxing these useless parasites would go a long way to keeping my generation of retirees out from under the bridges.
Would and should really do not mean much to us as we swirl around the toilet bowl as a society.
I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
the speaker's Twitter
account says she's 'fighting for the middle class', although she doesn't quite understand that's a rapidly disappearing demographic.
my guess is there's nothing that would qualify in her mind as a meaningful 'agreement on a strategic plan to crush the virus'.
see bill gates (God on High) in the OP.
the stim plans might be by way of a social safety net, but certainly not welfare, imo. but maybe we have different views of corona lockdown unemployment numbers, lockdown-generated illness numbers, and the fact that so many of us were at the bottom of the barrel financially...as the wealthier ad billions to their coffers.
now mr. wd and i wouldn't begin to scoff at another $1200 stim check each, no matter who the fuck signed it. nor would state and local govts. scoff at whatever help they get, imo.
90% of Americans self-identify as
What was stimulated which should be defined as increasing demand that leads to increased employment and production? Amazon and all the imported crap made in China? Meanwhile, those people hit first and hardest were the furloughed workers and small businesses forced to shut down. Keeping them as whole as possible during a well-planned, temporary shutdown should have been priority number one. The systems to deal with unemployment have been around since the late 1930s (thank you very much Frances Perkins). It only required a tweak -- furloughed and funded by the USG and not through the regular employer payroll taxation, SUTA and FUTA. The small business component was more challenging because the SBA is one of the crappiest US agencies, but the task wasn't all that difficult. Then the banks (that weren't shut down). Skip payments for the unemployed (I'd include all of them) and USG covers 50% of the interest due and the banks eat the other 50%. Not so difficult really.
" Amazon and all the imported crap made in China?"
Right. The USG sends me $1200 that I don't need, being retired, and what did I do? I ordered a batch of computer parts from my favorite supplier whose address is "Port of Los Angeles" so I can build the latest and greatest PC. Thereby stimulating China and providing at most half an hour's work for an actual US worker. Even less if, as I suspect, the order process is fully automated (on-line order using credit card) and some US worker spent maybe 15 minutes assembling the packages for shipment and they were a partial load to a US truck driver delivering it to my house (I saw the UPS 18 wheeler in front). Not much stimulus for the money. Uncle Sam could have spent the money at a local farmer's market buying produce to be donated to a food bank in Chicago, helping farmers and feeding some citizens. But then the banks and big business (UPS) wouldn't get their vigorish would they? Now if the computer manufacturing industry was still in California and Washington ... But that boat sailed a generation ago.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
Not Hitler, A Weathervane
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When Trump refuses to negotiate he is evil. When he negotiates it is only because he wants credit with the voters as part of his evil scheme to become a fascist dictator. Uh huh.
This ridiculous dance between Trump and the Dems has been going on for almost four years now. Trump contradicts himself very, very often. His every Zig is evil and the consequential Zag is also evil.
Both "sides" agree on the military budget, except the Dems once raised Trump's original proposal. Both "sides" agree that banks and corporations should be free to do whatever they want to make a buck. Both "sides" agree that the energy companies' future is more important than the future of the human race.
And here, both "sides" agree to do something about the economic fallout from shutting down a significant portion of public life and economic activity. They also agree that a "deal" is possible, if only those Evil Bastards on the Other Side would live up to their responsibilities to protect the American People.
Yes, if only the Other Side would quit being so evil . . . .
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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.
Both sides are evil.
I've seen lots of changes. What doesn't change is people. Same old hairless apes.
The only reason is politics
Controlling only the House, the Democrats have a weak hand in negotiations. It can be argued that you need to hold out for the best deal because there might not be another deal down the road. Certainly there are a number of Republican senators who don't want another deal at all.
The numbers currently indicate the Democrats gaining ground after the election. Biden, even though he's spent his entire career in the wrong party, is going to be a better negotiating partner than Trump. If the Democrats succeed in taking the Senate they will have a much stronger position. They will be able to guarantee more deals and don't need to fight over every scrap in this deal.
Best case they pass another bill in February. That means the current deal is a stopgap for the next four or five months.
If the Republicans manage to cling to Senate control there will still need to be follow on bills because the depression isn't going to go away. We know what fixes depressions, putting money into peoples' hands, either through a Federal jobs program or by just dropping money from helicopters.
Either way there are going to be more deals to be made, and under more favorable circumstances.
The political leverage will be gone in another few days as the election draws near. The deal on the table is the best one you're going to get until spring.
So why not take it? Politics. Trading whatever good $1.8 trillion will do over the next few months against a couple of congressional seats. Only an out-of-touch aristocrat would consider that a good deal.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
translation?
two in the february bush is worth more than one in the hand?
Transcript of Wolf and Pelosi
McConnell and Trump want to give companies blanket immunity if they don't do everything in their power to keep their workers safe which Pelosi is hinting that will not pass. Companies are not keeping their workers safe. They are not telling people that their co-workers are infected and some places are making sick people stay on the job. WSWS has been covering the massacre of the working class quite well. One CEO said that if a worker dies there will be 10 more people willing to take their place. Worker's compensation insurance has been broken for decades. I am coming up on 23 years since I was injured on my job, lost not only my job, but my career too. I had to fight for treatment after it was denied for 8 months until my doctor took me off work. Then the games began in earnest. I must have gone to court to battle the insurance company 10 times or more and the judge always ruled in my favor, but then they would deny or delay again and off to court we'd go. Rinse and repeat. I can't help wondering where I'd be if I had gotten treatment at 6 weeks when my doc said my injury this time was more severe. This was my 3rd back injury at work. The 2 previous times I worked through it. I continued working for 8 months while getting worse by the day until I stopped. After 5 years from date of injury I finally had back surgery. But by then the damage to the nerves was permanent and here I am....
Since my injury and case it has gotten much worse. I am not really exaggerating when I say you can have your arm amputated but the worker comp docs will say it is just a sprain and deny benefits. If McConnell does get the immunity deal passed we are back before we had laws in place. The auto companies have changed people's work schedule from 8 hour days/5 days a week to 7 12 hour days with a week off in between. The union authorized this change over the workers consent. What we are witnessing is an all out assault on workers. These changes were coming before COVID, but like other issues the elite are capitalizing on their power.
Even before COVID safety in the workplace has not been an issue for the corrupt elite. Less and less companies get fined for exploiting workers. This will put the cork in it. More working people need to know about this. They don't care how many die unless it affects their profits.
Jimmy pounced on the Pelosi/Wolf spat and boy did he nail it.
How are the centrists taking this this? Don't pick on Nancy. She doesn't as much power as people think she does. And if you think that yes should be agreeing on getting it done, then no GBCW diary for you. Ta ta and don't let the door hit ya.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
Pelosi is setting Biden up to be Hoover
Rising covered the deal before Pelosi melted down on nat TV and said that if she thinks that there is going to be a better deal than what is being offered she is either nuts or........
Who is going to push for the deal if Trump loses? If the GOP loses the senate? Biden tweeted yesterday that "Americans are not looking for a handout." Welp that sure tells me that Biden is not going to do squat for us if he is president just like he and Obama didn't when they had the chance.
Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.
great addition, snoopy,
and once again: brilliant and brave of krystal ball, plus additions by sagaar.
food for thought;
one item should have been donald trumps 2 further tweets i'd brought on my updated 'dueling tweets' making offers to pelosi, but i'm too busy and tired to go fetch them.
but as both silicon valley (blech, PU) ro khanna and saggar enjeti had tweets on that OP, i went and dug up (and sorry to have been so long, but: Needs Must):
Saagar Enjeti: Trump's LAST CHANCE Is To FORCE Republicans To Vote For Stimulus (it’s interrupted by ads, but hang in there, it’s brilliant)
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB4ulsJfjcM]
Good advice for Trump
Saagar is absolutely correct. If Trump really wants to win, he'll do what Saagar prescribes. But anyone's guess is as good as mine as to his move. Not placing any bets on this. They're all crazy and on the take.
on this morning's
msn homepage was a piece noting that Mnuchin doubts any package will get thru before election day because: a few recalcitrant Rs. so sagaar was indeed correct. i'd also admire his explanation of what the Tea Partiers claim to represent...but don't.
i also love the biden Tweet snoopy brought: 'americans don't like handouts' iirc (blink, blink). speaking of whom, the hunter biden in ukraine story seems to blowing up big time, claims of with censorship rampant. and joe's election meddling there has surfaced again, of course.
our internet went down in the late afternoon. fiddled w/ everything i could, even dragged out the new replacement modem (Luddite) i wasn't able to grasp last time i tried to put it online. but mr. wd hours later called some magic number at our provider, and she eventually got the system to reboot. hola!
I think this is way overblown.
Bonkers, berserk, unhinged? I really didn't see that. It just seemed like she was arguing strongly for her position, and let her arrogance come out. If her actions over decades hadn't been so horrible, I'd probably be jumping to her support.
that's fine;
we all have the right to our own opinions.