ObamaTrade dies a quick death
Submitted by gjohnsit on Fri, 11/11/2016 - 5:57pm
It looks like there is a silver-lining to the Trump victory.
European Union Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom said EU-U.S. negotiations on a free-trade agreement would probably be put on hold indefinitely because of Donald Trump’s victory in the American presidential election.
A sweeping Pacific trade pact meant to bind the U.S.and Asia effectively died Friday, as Republican and Democratic leaders in Congress told the White House they won’t advance it in the election’s aftermath, and Obama administration officials acknowledged it has no way forward now.
The failure to pass the 12-nation Trans-Pacific Partnership—by far the biggest trade agreement in more than a decade—is a bitter defeat for President Barack Obama, whose belated but fervent support for freer trade divided his party and complicated the campaign of Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
The White House had lobbied hard for months in the hope of moving forward on the pact if Mrs. Clinton had won.
You have the Canadian Prime Minister and his Mexican counterpart that are now saying, “hey buddies… hey United States… we want to renegotiate NAFTA.”
…Maybe, just maybe, we might actually have a little bit of justice… he hasn’t even taken the oath of office yet.
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put a stake in it, burn it,
flush it in the filthiest toilet, and pray it goes straight to hell
Fighting for democratic principles,... well, since forever
Fri, 11/11/2016 - 6:02pm —
Fri, 11/11/2016 - 6:02pm — fight2bfree
from whence it came.
But I've no doubt that the conspirators will try to sneak it through again - especially since Trump's wish-list includes many of what would be demanded under these traitorous corporate coups.
It's not like these guys are smart enough to realize that they'd still be screwing themselves and their kids/grandkids in destroying civilization and the global life support system simply to drain all of the rest of the money these corporations and billionaires already have the great bulk of - and would then be left with nothing to spend it on anyway, with the whole world and unregulated financial system in wreckage and oxygen-free, as well...
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
C'mon Ellen, tell us how you really feel.
Because we want to be sure you are invited to the big bonfire at the treaty burning. This rotten election may give us some compost to bury a few Dem-oligarch giveaways.
-Greed is not a virtue.
-Socialism: the radical idea of sharing.
-Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.
John F. Kennedy, In a speech at the White House, 1962
RIP TPP and TTIP
We may yet have an outside chance to avert the Corporate Dystopia.
There is no justice. There can be no peace.
Nix NAFTA and TPP
A middle class tax break and spend money on infrastructure is how Trump gets reelected. IF he gets those things done.
FDR 9-23-33, "If we cannot do this one way, we will do it another way. But do it we will.
and saves SS and Medicare
he will go down in history as Saint Donald
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Be sure to ask your FB friends and relatives who supported DT
to now support him in nixing Ryan's plan for Medicare privatization!
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Precisely Why I Would Not Get My Hopes Up
Trump will only negotiate what benefits him, will leave it to the Gobbels crowd (Mike Pence, Larry Kudlow, et al) to redo the trade deals otherwise as he has no experience.
One equal temper of heroic hearts, Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will. To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.--Tennyson
Business and Medicine Don't Mix Well, and When Mixed Should
be monitored closely.
Life giving medicine and medical care are terrible commodities. If you don't get them, you die kind of distorts the market.
We need to create a medical system where the profits exist on the margins, not in the middle of it all. We can create a world class public health care system. We can and do fund research at public colleges across the country. We need to make healthcare a human right. It should be the right of every American Citizen to get life saving medicine and medical treatment.
If it were half as important as Oil or War we would have done it already.
“Tactics without strategy is the noise before defeat.” ~ Sun Tzu
My daughter, a BSRN is getting her MSRN to be a NP.
9Is that acronymic enough?) She lent a book to me, currently buried on my dining room table, that large horizontal slab that becomes repository for all things paperlike. TR Reid's book about healthcare in the US. Somewhat dated, ends right about the time ACA arose. But clearly, the basic premise here in the US is wrong. Now with the ACA in death spiral, we have a second chance to make things better. I am not holding my breath.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
One way or another Ryan
was always going to be the key for better or worse, what would a grand bargain with clinton look like? Trump and him don't like each other, maybe trump tells him to fuck off.
I voted Jill, I don't ask anyone who they vote for, and FB, haven't been on it in years.
I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish
"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"
Heard from Margaret Kimberley
Trump has a window
where he can steal away the working class for a generation, and make the Dems a permanent minority party.
I hope not, but he can.
Obama had the same window and blew it.
Bill Clinton, Obama, and now Trump campaigned as populists
and 'Plain Folks.'
Yes, I am quite sure you are correct on this.
My only hope is that the youngs who made Bernie's campaign the success that it attained have not given up and will prevail.
Brand New Congress, Progressive Coders, and other Sanders campaign spinoffs are on a serious roll now.
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
It has precedent...
The Republicans, remember, -used- to be the party of the People. When they decided to become the party of big business, the Democrats switched out and became the People's party.
Third Way has been trying to kill off us FDR democrats forever, and establish the party as an alternative version of the Repubs.... hmmm... Dare I say a "kinder, gentler" corporate party?! (LOL)
I doubt very seriously that he's a praying man.
But he better start now so he figures out exactly what the garbage is controlling Congress. Rec'd!
Inner and Outer Space: the Final Frontiers.
Poor Barack
I wonder if the owners will give him part of his payoff for putting in a valiant effort. But he's still has a fine legacy. He kissed the republicans asses till his lips were chapped and he's kept the wars going. Income inequality is at an all time high and the banks are getting ready to ram it up our asses again. But at least he gave us Obamacare
and single payer...PS. I hope Trump's a critter of his word on TPP. I don't trust the turtle Mitch any further than I could throw him.
The Fat Lady Ain't Sung Yet!
Plenty of time for Obamacare to crash and burn before Barry flees to Hawaii. Then he's accomplish absolutely nothing for eight years - except his rescue of the Republican Party in 2009 "because America needs an opposition party".
Vowing To Oppose Everything Trump Attempts.
Some of my gay friends give him some credit, others
point to the recovery funding and green energy support during his first term as important.
But yeah, there are long lists of what he didn't do. And of course there's precedents such as non-judicial killings etc that he is leaving for Trump to build upon...
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
precedents such as...
...NDAA 1021/1022 (permanent detention at the discretion of the president). Yep, handing that off to Trump.
I may be a fool, but maybe, just maybe, the Congress will check the Imperial Presidency after 4+ decades of rolling over.
Compensated Spokes Model for Big Poor.
He still has Lilly Ledbetter
and a Nobel Prize.
So the Library should be about the size of the one in my home village.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
I love the spin.
"complicated the campaign of nominee Hillary Clinton."
All those Schumercrats who lost their Senate elections, they were supposed to be rubberstamps for up and coming trade deals, as well as more wars and regime changes.
Mary Bennett
Schumercrats!!!
OMG!
SO STEALING THAT!
Please. Feel free.
I stole it from someone. I think it might have been Down With Tyranny, which has been documenting in detail just how pernicious the DSCC and DCCC interventions into state elections have been. With the results we saw this week.
Mary Bennett
We can only hope
It won't be replaced with something worse. Still, it's a start.
"The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function." -- Albert Bartlett
"A species that is hurtling toward extinction has no business promoting slow incremental change." -- Caitlin Johnstone
Besides, Obama already renegotiated NAFTA, right?
The promise, on the record.
The backtrack.
~annominous
How about the TiSA?
that's a 50 nation "service" agreement that I hope goes down the drain too. Another corporations over rule nations agreement.
Thanks for the good news!
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Sad it has to be Trump to save us from Obama/Clinton insanity.
And people wonder why some us wouldn't support Clinton.
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win."
Sorry it had to be Trump who saved us from Hillary.
But we'll have to see what we get in return.
Life is strong. I'm weak, but Life is strong.
how many times did republicans stop dems from doing wrong thing?
the dems sold out long ago
but, no one knows what Trump will do
and early members of his team are the worst of the worst
Ha, but they are now on Notice
They, too, have the world's attention: If they are fools, they will provide proof in short order. If we are fools, we will allow the fools we had previously empowered to dictate the acceptable standards of government service and public-personal ethics while in positions of public trust, (albeit however long or short the public wishes that service to continue).
Fighting for democratic principles,... well, since forever
Collector's item
Dear gawd, who'd feel safe
Dear gawd, who'd feel safe having that in the house at 3 AM?
Psychopathy is not a political position, whether labeled 'conservatism', 'centrism' or 'left'.
A tin labeled 'coffee' may be a can of worms or pathology identified by a lack of empathy/willingness to harm others to achieve personal desires.
Clerks at magazine shops must have been carting them home!
LOL. And another MSM FAIL. It's somewhat tasty.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
That is a bit of good news.
BTW, gjohn, I mosied over to TOP and saw your article. Quite good. Thorough, critical without condescending -- though sometimes one is forced to over there. Your message was succinct. Comments were interesting. Thoughtful at first, then of course, descending into anarchy at the end of the page.
"I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. I'm frightened of the old ones."
John Cage
But . . . But . . . What About Obama's Legacy??!
We all needed at least some good news.
And the death of those "free trade" agreements definitely qualifies as good news.
Thank you gjohnsit.
President Trump Already Has A Better Record Than Obama
Hail to the Chief!
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
if this is real, this is the best news all week !
Thanks for posting this - I needed some good news !
Peace -
Murph
I wondered who wrote this poppycock.
It was the Wall Street Journal, the most self-unaware business journal published. Neocon through and through.
Obama did NOT support "freer trade." He supported blocking the rise of Eurasia via military channels and un-credible Dollar hegemony. The TPP was Hillary's baby while Secretary of State. It was launched about the same time that she wrote Pivot to Asia, which is essentially a revision of the Project for a New American Century.
The TPP exists solely to block China's ability to trade with other nations via the Pacific.
The TTIP exists solely to block Russia's ability to trade with other nations via the Atlantic.
The TPP is being retired because several of the principle co-signers are walking away, others are non-responsive. All of them are planning to move forward trading with their own currencies instead of US Dollars. And settling outside the SWIFT system, most likely at China's Asian Investment Bank AIIB. That way the US cannot trace their transactions, ending the abusive era of US sanctions and fines. That is the future of trade.
No it didn't complicate Clinton's campaign one bit. It was already a twisted knot of deceitful snakes, from the moment it began. We all got the memos via Wikileaks.
The propaganda is thick at the WSJ.
____________________
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Libya was trying do do the same thing for Africa
by establishing a currency and funding development projects. Thus they had to be eliminated.
Yes. It was a horrifying tragedy inside a war crime.
A united Africa is out of the question. That's why the US has boots on the ground in 34 African nations.
____________________
The political system is what it is because the People are who they are. — Plato
Believe ANYONE in Congress about NOT selling us out? ha ha ha
Until this pack of lying scum is legally no longer Congress, I don't believe them.
Remember how, after the 2010 Congressional drubbings, the Dim-0-CRAP$ in the lame duck turned around and sould us out on GWB Jr.'s tax welfare by ... extending the tax welfare? One of the headlines I saw a reference to was quoting Schumer! ha ha.
believe that guy?? yeah, whatever.
rmm.
But then I sigh; and, with a piece of scripture,
Tell them that God bids us do good for evil:
And thus I clothe my naked villany
With old odd ends stolen out of holy writ;
HRC would have been a disaster. Trump offers some
possibilities for progress. Time will tell, but this is a good start. I know that there will be some stuff I really won't like, but I'm going to hope for the best.
I'm done with the D's unless there is a complete over-haul (fat chance).
The Greens are a waste of time. Maybe I'll try pushing DT in the right direction. (I've even watched a little Fox of late--very small doses.)
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
I agree
His three priorities to start are Border security (who cares), health care (I say get rid of compulsory insurance), and jobs (through civic works). Works for me. The point is, see what he does not what he says [I learned this from the previous administration]. By week two of Obomber's admin. I knew I was hoodwinked.
To a point, I agree with some points...
but what really matters is what the Tea Party/Conservative Republicans LET him do, and what they push thru instead. Trump doesn't know how constrained he is with reference to Congress yet. When that hits him, he's NOT going to be happy.
I fear Paul Ryan and the rest of the Tea Party nuts more than I fear Trump.
The Good News is post-Obama we are quick to recognize
Hoodwink.
Practice will make us faster to complain. I just wish we had a faster hit response ready to roll.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
TOP
I checked the contrition box for my sin of having mocked the holy name of Markos and got reinstated last night to give you support. The conversation did go on longer than I expected before the rabid ones took over. They must be exhausted, poor dears.