Health Care and Revolution
OK, so it appears the two duopoly political parties are going to make some kind of "compromise" on the health care issue which will include "bailing out" the insurance corporations.
"This week we attended a hearing of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (HELP) committee where there was broad bi-partisan support for giving billions more to the insurance industry to “stabilize the market.” The government already gives for-profit insurance $300 billion annually and their stock values have risen dramatically since passage of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), so the rush to give them more was disheartening."
(From an article by Margaret Flowers and Kevin Zeese about the Medicare for All/Single Payer issue.)
https://www.globalresearch.ca/senate-debates-billions-for-insurers-while...
Our oligarchy representatives from both parties have fucked around for most of this year with the republicans trying to repeal Obamacare, at one point proposing to greatly increase the number of uninsured, and the democrats alternately defending Obamacare and moving toward a more unified position for Medicare for All/Single Payer.
Now they're back from their summer vacations, which all Americans get donchaknow, and are ready to do their service to the oligarchy while pretending to care about the peasants.
"The bi-partisan hearing discussed three main points: making sure that public dollars were available to subsidize insurance costs, reinsuring private health insurers so they would be protected if they had to spend ‘too much’ money on health care and incentives to entice private insurers back into areas that are not profitable. Coincidentally, these were the same points raised in the bi-partisan proposal published this year by the Center for American Progress, a Democratic Party think tank financed in part by health insurance lobbyists. Both parties are clearly on the side of health care as a commodity."
Sounds like the bipartisanship we've grown to know and love doesn't it. Zeese and Flowers however came away optimistic about the process playing out. I don't share their optimism, not yet.
"After meeting with Senator Sanders’ staff, we felt more reassured that his intention is to ultimately create a strong National Improved Medicare for All system. There are many provisions in the bill that are to be applauded – providing care to every person in the United States and offering fairly comprehensive coverage – and a few that we will have to work on – such as including long term care, abolishing investor-owned health facilities and a more rapid transition period. On September 13, if all goes well, the text of the bill will be released and we will assess it
The tide is shifting in the United States. The people have the power to finally make the government do the right thing. No more compromises. No more false solutions. Onward to National Improved Medicare for
All."
Notice the part about the "transition period".
So what's all that mean?
As long as there's a republican majority in either the house or the senate, there's no chance of this happening. The duopoly doesn't play that way. It will be a cold day in hell for a Medicare for All/Single Payer system to be passed in a republican controlled Congress and Senate. Even if the democrats win back the house and/or senate, there isn't enough support at this point to pass something as significant and society and oligarchy altering as a nationalized health care system. So the health care issue is going to be the major issue the democrats will use to try to take back the house and senate. Just like last election with the republicans promising to repeal the ACA. It has to be that way, they have no choice at this point. They can't ignore this now even if they have to pretend there will be the proper solution, eventually. We're hearing a lot of that, eventually.
"We need your support." Sanders will play that to the hilt as will most others active in seeking Medicare for All (Improved). But what does that support mean? It means electing more and better democrats. It means "pressuring" your duopoly politicians. That's how they'll get people to stay in the so called veal pen and not break out to bring down this duopoly political system.
Will that work and how long will all it take? Many years, probably decades when considering the "transition period". That's if all else goes reasonably well in that time period, like no WWIII, no economic disaster, no prolonged violent civil unrest, etc. It's already been over twenty years since semi-serious political activity began regarding the U.S. health care system (under Clinton). It's been over eight years since Obamacare was instituted and we have Trump and the republicans for probably the next three plus years.
Even with all that, do you really think the duopoly political parties, controlled by the oligarchy, are going to take down the giant insurance, pharmaceutical, and medical care corporations that are key parts of the oligarchy? Are we really supposed to rely on the democratic and republican political parties, the oligarchy's representatives, to give us Medicare for All/Single Payer? Is the rest of the oligarchy, like the military/security/intelligence security complex, going to look at what's happening to their oligarchy friends and so "who Nellie"? The medical care/pharmaceutical/medical insurance security complex is even bigger than the MIC and inextricably connected to Wall Street and the Big Banks. We're talking trillions per year.
Do you really think our "politicians" in the two major political parties are going to come up with a plan to take THAT down?
Meanwhile, U.S. imperialism and the accompanying economic and military wars, regime changes, genocides, and war crimes will march on. We will still live in an oligarchy. We'll still be literal slaves to the plutocracy. Climate change will go unaddressed. Jobs will continue to disappear. The rich will continue to get richer, inequality and austerity will increase and capitalism will go into hyperdrive prior to killing us all.
Elections will come and go and we'll get fooled again, bet on that.
Maybe the only way to get a nationalized health care system is the same way we'll end gangster capitalism, imperialism and oligarchy/plutocracy. By forming an independent working/lower class people's movement to bypass the duopoly and give a real voice to all people.
Maybe the only way to get a truly nationalized/socialized health care system is a Revolution to take down the corporate/financial oligarchy, it's political duopoly and end capitalism as we know it.
We'll see, because I'm sure the old "elect more and better politicians" thing will be tried again and again, trying to get the duopoly political parties, our Congress and Senate, to get it done for us. That doesn't fill me with optimism.
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I have what I considered Cadillac Insurance as a retired and
vested NYS employee. They just blocked further care the way my daughter wanted, anyway. UHS, NYSHIP, Empire Plan.
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Is your daughter your legal guardian?
If not, she can't do squat. I had a friend. Her mother was a paranoid schizophrenic who routinely went off her meds and flipped out. To rescue her, she had to continually go to court and request legal guardianship.
On a different but related subject, I made up my mind and have pretty well decided which continuum care facility I want to go to when I no longer can or want to live at home. I do not want to impose on family nor do I want to put up with their management when the time comes. I imagine old age and death are stressful enough without adding family conflict into it. A cozy private room, audio books on my lap top, and family visits that are filled with love instead of frustration and dread are what I've planned for myself. Agatha Christie, Rex Stout jig saw puzzles, and maybe even c99. Who knows. Cataract surgery was a wonderful gift. I expect to read without glasses for a long, long, time.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
I had my cataract surgeries done the same way.
She wants legal POA, I am still not sure that I want that. She seems to bend toward saving an inheritance. I went through that with my mother, or rather my local sister did. She would prefer I spend nothing.
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What We Have Heah
A failure to communicate! That was the point I didn't have a chance to make in my drive by Essay this morning. There were two articles in The Guardian that the M$M has ignored.
Homeless Americans are invisible because the M$M ignores us:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/08/anaheim-homeless-toilets...
I have discovered better coverage of the problems facing L.A. homeless people in Al Jazeera and The Guardian than gets covered by the L.A. Times.
The second article covered an unprecedented drought in Montana and N. Dakota. A Bing search turned up two hits in The Wa Po and crickets:
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/07/flash-drought-north-...
I also found two articles about Pipeline activism that were ignored by the M$M:
https://www.facingsouth.org/2017/09/resisting-souths-pipeline-building-b...
And:
http://www.roanoke.com/business/news/landowners-ask-federal-court-to-int...
The lines of communication are hard wired to favor TPTB. The Duopoly always wins because they control the media and the message.
Our "Socialist FDR Fair Deal" for economic and environmental survival is more popular that Bernie's was, but 80% of the American people will never hear it.
We need to figure out a way to break through the Right Wing Noise Machine that works for Nancy Pelosi and Jeff Sessions.
"They'll say we're disturbing the peace, but there is no peace. What really bothers them is that we are disturbing the war." Howard Zinn
You are so right about this kabuki game that the democrats are
playing on us again. The last time they played this game was during the Bush administration when they said that if we put them into power they would roll back the Bush abuses and end the wars.
Instead Pelosi went back on their promise and here we are 11 years later and both wars are still happening.
This incrementalism wasn't what Bernie was running on during his campaign. Another bait and switch just like Obama's Hoping for Change bait and switch. Even though more people now have health insurance, many of those people who now have health insurance, they still can't afford to use it because their premiums and deductibles are too damn high.
This was supposed to be a step towards single payer, but has anyone in congress been working on it and trying to make it better? Nope. This was the plan, IMO. The ACA was another way to transfer our wealth to the insurance companies. This $300 billion could be used as a down payment for single payer, but this was the only time that Herheinous told us the truth. "Universal health care will never, ever happen".
This is what the democrats do when they are out of power. They will offer us the moon, but they know that they won't keep their promises to us.
Greenwald wrote this article back in ......and he revealed the democrats' game.
The Democratic Party’s deceitful game
What did he do when the democrats had the 50 votes to pass it through using reconciliation?
Gee, who couldn't see that coming?
You're right Big Al, this is too keep us in the veal pen. It's too bad that I'm now a vegetarian.
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Zeese and Flowers look like they changed their minds
This is what they wrote last month about how Bernie has changed his position on health insurance.
Sanders Has His Priorities Backwards; We Can’t Delay Medicare for All
This link will take you to other articles related to this one.
Bernie and congress' plans for health r
Scientists are concerned that conspiracy theories may die out if they keep coming true at the current alarming rate.
Had seen Flower's response to Sanders
A truth of the nuclear age/climate change: we can no longer have endless war and survive on this planet. Oh sh*t.
Suckling the billionaire teet
Bernie Sanders coming back to California
One of those bold things is not like the other. Sure he won't bother to scrub all the old "Not the Billionaires" campaign crap from yesterday. MOVE FORWARD Mr. Inside Outside, don't look at the poverty and homelessness here in California because healthcare! D-Value priorities.
I guess if nurses union really gave a shit they'd house and feed people first, fix the collapsed mental health system, keep poors out of jail. Hell no! They want what they want, that's California! Even our unions are fucked up at the top, corrupt lobbyists included. Schizophrenic? I'm bleedin' quadrophenic!
5:15 Quadrophenia - The Who
good luck
i don't understand your criticism of the nurses' union.
what they want appears to be universal healthcare, at least according to the blockquote. is there something wrong with that? it's one of the big 5 for me: food/water, shelter, education, healthcare, justice/security.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
If that's your bag, then go for it! Give more $$ why not?
good luck
I just literally do not know what it is about the nurses'
union's stance that you're angry about. Is it that they're endorsing Newsom?
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Of course they're once again playing us.
This is what they do and they've gotten pretty damned good at it with far too many in this country. Another nice long slow sell out, USA, USA, USA!!!!
Only a fool lets someone else tell him who his enemy is. Assata Shakur
It sounds like my mantra...
the corporate coup is complete...they are in control and have militarized police to back them up. We're screwed. My advice is find a nice place to ride out the extinction event.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
And you are surprised because...?
We need a political revolution to unite the 99%. Find common cause with the Trump voters when they realize they are getting screwed & dump IdPol.
chuck utzman
TULSI 2020
Find common cause for the working/lower class,
Many Trump voters were of the 1-10% that will not ride this bandwagon.
Frankly, I'm suspect
of anybody, or any organization that endorses a piece of legislation, sight unseen.
To their credit, PNHP hasn't jumped on that bandwagon--yet!
They still have Conyers' Bill front and center on their website. I'll be interested to read their assessment of Bernie's bill in the upcoming days. And, to find out if he has truly abandoned his public option idea.
Who knows? Maybe it will be a true companion bill to HR 676. We'll know in about 24 hours, I suppose.
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
SOSD - A volunteer-run organisation dedicated to the welfare of Singapore’s street dogs. We rescue, rehabilitate, and rehome strays to give them a second chance.
On Twitter - SOSD Singapore@SOSDsg
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
I haven't researched the issue, but if Conyers bill is
Hey, Big Al, I'm no whiz on how Congress
works, but from what I understand, with the exception of some funding types of legislation (generated from the House), it's customary to have both a House and Senate bill offered, and voted upon. Then, if both bills pass, they're reconciled after bipartisan negotiations over the differing details in the respective bills. (That's what they called 'regular order,' I think.)
Of course, Conyers' HR 676 has been hanging around since about 2003. Depending on which article you read, Bernie 'may be' going to produce a companion bill. OTOH, several articles I've read, claim that he'll propose a state-based public option plan.
Hopefully, there's someone here who's more knowledgeable than me on this topic.
Mollie
“I believe in the redemptive powers of a dog’s love. It is in recognition of each dog’s potential to lift the human spirit, and therefore, to change society for the better, that I fight to make sure every street dog has its day.”
--Stasha Wong, Secretary, Save Our Street Dogs (SOSD)
Everyone thinks they have the best dog, and none of them are wrong.
Flowers and Jon Walker discussing the road to
"single payer". There are disagreements on how to get there and I don't know if anyone has any idea how to really go to a socialized system. Maybe there have been some studies conducted, I don't know. That's the dilemma. Capitalism is so entrenched, as well as corporate oligarchy, it's going to take a major upheaval to change it. Which is why it may have to be part of something bigger.
https://www.singlepayeraction.org/2017/09/05/jon-walker-and-dr-margaret-...