The Dose - 2-12-2022

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Fast 5 months since the first diary of The Dose was published by JtC. The request was made to the weekly Open Threaders to post one for COVID discussions in addition to our regular regular diary.

For the most part I had been able to ignore the COVID issues, others covered the subject adequately. My personal plan was developed in April 2020 with the intent to follow for about 2 years then reevaluate based on contemporary pandemic info. Per info supplied by C99 participants added povoiodine gargle and nasal spray after being in high risk locations and have built a robust portable air filter system to move into a building or room when visitors can not stay outside. The N95 mask used on town trips since February 2020 has been reclassified by the CDC as a respirator. Fits the current theme masks do not provide adequate protection, so why bother.

The scope of conversation and various approaches to gathering information has been interesting. Watching the development of C99 members mastering a subject, learning new skills and expanding perspectives provides me hope for the future. I will continue to populate The Dose with a wide variety of sources, subjects, opinions and a few research articles. If your perspective is not covered add a comment, write a diary or offer to host a weekly Open Thread and The Dose for a while. Rules are simple no insults.

My evaluation of drug therapies does contain some biases developed in the 20 plus years primarily practicing in a sub-specialty of pharmacy: medication management and drug information services. First, drugs are the cause of multiple health complications. Sometimes there are no other treatment options and the complications need to be endured. Ignoring patient observations, discomfort or harm should not be the default position. Second, is financial benefit to pharmaceutical manufactures, insurance companies and medical providers (including institutions such as hospitals) are a primary consideration as to the drugs choices available for patient treatment. Third, patients deserve to be considered as an individual not a data point for a research project. Fourth, One-size-fits-all does not work with clothing, it definitely does not work with medical treatments and disease protocols. Fifth, medical standards change, sometimes abruptly. Some of those changes starts with medical practitioners or patients noticing treatment failures and trying other options.

Full disclosure I no longer have a public practice and keep up on all aspects of drug therapies. Decided to step away from the business when my Dad was offered hospice the week after Mom's funeral. Turned out to be a seven year journey. Hiring someone to run the farm and going back to the constant traveling is not very appealing.

A few articles of interest.

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For those more comfortable with general information from a mainstream news source the NPR's The Coronavirus Crisis page offers "Everything you need to know about the global pandemic"

The coverage on the FDA requested application for the Pfizer vaccine in children under 5 years has been robust.

Pfizer asks FDA to allow COVID-19 vaccine for kids under 5

Pfizer on Tuesday asked the U.S. to authorize extra-low doses of its COVID-19 vaccine for children under 5, potentially opening the way for the very youngest Americans to start receiving shots as early as March.

In an extraordinary move, the Food and Drug Administration had urged Pfizer and its partner BioNTech to apply earlier than the companies had planned — and before it's settled if the youngsters will need two shots or three.

The nation’s 19 million children under 5 are the only group not yet eligible for vaccination against the coronavirus. Many parents have been pushing for an expansion of shots to toddlers and preschoolers, especially as the omicron variant sent record numbers of youngsters to the hospital.

FDA to share data on how effective the Pfizer vaccine is for kids under 5 NPR Feb 11, 2022

Parents of young kids waiting for a vaccine, it's getting closer. Today we will all find out how well the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine works in children 6 months to 4 years old. NPR has learned that the companies have gathered additional data to support their request for this authorization. The Food and Drug Administration is expected to release that data today.

Unfortunately the release of the additional data to the public regarding the vaccine trial in those younger than 5 years will be delayed.

The FDA postpones a highly anticipated meeting on the Pfizer vaccine for young kids

A highly anticipated meeting of expert advisers to discuss whether to recommend the use of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for young children has been postponed.

The Food and Drug Administration said Pfizer told the agency that new data have recently emerged regarding its emergency use authorization request for the Pfizer vaccine in children 6 months through 4 years of age.

The agency said its preliminary assessment and need to allow more time to evaluate additional data led it to postpone the meeting scheduled for Tuesday, Feb. 15.

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There Is Nothing Normal about One Million People Dead from COVID Scientific American Feb 10, 2022

If you’re trying to get people to accept that what the nation is doing right now is okay, and 50,000 deaths per month should be normalized, then it’s rational.

If you don’t want people to wonder why in just two years, the U.S. death toll for COVID is about 130 percent the size of the death toll of four decades of HIV—while global COVID deaths are less than 20 percent of the world’s AIDS deaths—then it’s rational.

If you want to manufacture consent for looser pandemic measures in the U.S. rather than more comprehensive ones as the communal viral rate demands, then making these claims is rational.

But it’s not ethical to manufacture what I call a viral underclass, and it’s incorrect to pretend as though the news media have no role in creating it nor in persuading the public that so many deaths are inevitable.

It’s a shame that major news outlets are talking more about moving on and returning to normal, and not running more pieces calling for an increase in government-funded mitigation efforts (more free high-quality masks and tests, upgraded ventilation in worksites and schools) to stem the tide of death. American norms (rampant incarceration, eviction, homelessness, lack of health care, poor ventilation and economic inequality) are fairly deadly as is.

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How Long Will Taiwan Stick to Its Zero-COVID Approach? The Diplomat Feb 3, 2022

Consequently, while the outbreak seems to have been contained for now, it has raised questions about whether Taiwan will maintain its current zero-COVID strategy or not. Much international reporting has zoomed in on China as the primary example of a country that has continued to pursue a zero-COVID approach, but Taiwan has also maintained this strategy. However, Taiwan has primarily done this through voluntary measures and the widespread use of contact tracing, rather than the snap lockdowns used in China, which have sometimes been deemed authoritarian.

In Taiwan, government officials otherwise politically at odds – ranging from Minister of Health and Welfare Chen Shih-chung to Taipei mayor Ko Wen-je – have spoken of the need to eventually co-exist with COVID-19 since last year. There has been some recognition of the need to eventually accommodate COVID-19 from the onset.

That being said, when questioned by the media, Chen has stated that the CECC continues to adhere to a zero-COVID approach and that it believes Omicron can still be contained through a test, trace, and isolate regimen. Yet the CECC does not rule out that in the future, this approach might fail to contain more infectious variants of COVID-19.

Looking forward to seeing additional comparisons of various vaccine types.

CORONAVIRUS/Over 975,000 appointments made for COVID booster shot online in 7 hours Focus Taiwan Jan 26, 2022.

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Beijing’s ambitious Olympic COVID bubble: So far, so good AP Feb 11, 2022

For a country determined to keep out the virus that first emerged within its borders, bringing in more than 15,000 people from all corners of the world was a serious gamble. It appears to be working.

One week into the 17-day event, China seems to be meeting its formidable COVID-19 Olympic challenge with a so-called “bubble” that allows Beijing Games participants to skip quarantine but tightly restricts their movement so they don’t come in contact with the general population. There have been 490 confirmed cases — many of them positive tests on symptomless visitors — and no reports of any leaking out to date.

Inside the bubble, Olympic organizers are employing a version of the government’s zero-tolerance approach. Everyone is tested daily for the virus, and anyone who tests positive is rapidly isolated to prevent any spread. Athletes and others are required to wear N95 face masks when not competing.
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China has had scattered outbreaks in the past month, but none related to the Olympics. On Friday, health authorities reported 22 new cases in an outbreak in Liaoning province, east of Beijing.

None of the 450 confirmed infections inside the loop have spread to others in the bubble, Huang Chun, a pandemic control official, said earlier this week. And there have been no reports of anything medically serious.
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The final test will come after the Games, when thousands of Olympic staff and volunteers from China exit the bubble. They are expected to be required to quarantine for a week or more before leaving to try to forestall the effects of any latent infections they might have.

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Source supplied by Pluto's Republic
Vitamin D for COVID-19: real-time meta analysis of 169 studies

Introduction
We analyze all significant studies regarding vitamin D and COVID-19. Search methods, inclusion criteria, effect extraction criteria (more serious outcomes have priority), all individual study data, PRISMA answers, and statistical methods are detailed in Appendix 1. We present random-effects meta-analysis results for studies analyzing outcomes based on sufficiency, for all treatment studies, for mortality results only, and for treatment studies within each treatment stage.
Vitamin D.

Vitamin D undergoes two conversion steps before reaching the biologically active form as shown in Figure 2. The first step is conversion to calcidiol, or 25(OH)D, in the liver. The second is conversion to calcitriol, or 1,25(OH)2D, which occurs in the kidneys, the immune system, and elsewhere. Calcitriol is the active, steroid-hormone form of vitamin D, which binds with vitamin D receptors found in most cells in the body. Vitamin D was first identified in relation to bone health, but is now known to have multiple functions, including an important role in the immune system [Carlberg, Martens]. For example, [Quraishi] show a strong association between pre-operative vitamin D levels and hospital-acquired infections, as shown in Figure 3. There is a significant delay involved in the conversion from cholecalciferol, therefore calcifediol (calcidiol) or calcitriol may be preferable for treatment.
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Conclusion
Random effects meta-analysis with pooled effects using the most serious outcome reported shows 81% [53‑92%] and 40% [32‑47%] improvement for early treatment and for all studies. Results are similar after restriction to 58 peer-reviewed studies: 77% [45‑90%] and 41% [33‑48%], and for the 38 mortality results: 76% [37‑91%] and 41% [28‑52%].

Statistically significant improvements are seen in treatment studies for mortality, ventilation, ICU admission, and hospitalization. 31 studies from 28 independent teams in 13 different countries show statistically significant improvements in isolation (23 for the most serious outcome).

Late stage treatment with calcifediol/calcitriol shows greater improvement compared to cholecalciferol: 73% [57‑83%] vs. 46% [26‑60%].

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I didn't know there was such a thing as that, thank gawd. I wish there was a jab that could help me un-know the known knowns I know now. Buffy Wicks is from Oakland, where the Orange flag HQ resides. Good symmetry.

Sweeping new bill would require vaccine for every California worker

[...] This year’s bill is part of a broader slate of legislation put forward by members of the state “vaccine caucus.” State Sen. Scott Weiner, a San Francisco Democrat, has proposed legislation allowing children 12 and up to get vaccinated without parental consent, and lawmakers have also introduced bills aimed at making sure students are vaccinated.

Richard Pan, a doctor and lawmaker who chairs the state Senate’s health committee and introduced a school vaccine mandate, said the worker vaccine legislation would help protect the most vulnerable members of society, noting that while vaccines don’t entirely prevent transmission of COVID-19, they do keep people safe from severe illness and death, and reduce the likelihood of infection.

“This is so critically important,” Pan said. “We don’t want people to be worried when they go to work that they might be exposed to this disease.

My bold. So broken. "The jabs don't kill the virus. But don't worry because every one gets jabbed. A lot." donk plonk gazonk Save Hospital Profits is their donors policy, and mass data collection to be monetized from cradle to grave. plutocracy sucks

Peace and Love
and or else

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Worked for Dean, then Obama, then Hillary, then Rahm, then back to Hillary and Obama. Went from an anti WallMart union movement to the Center For American Progress. Don't know her at all - I live on the other side of the bay - but she reads just like a bay area liberal.

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On to Biden since 1973

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[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb1Xm1uaedU]
notes and links under the clip.

My favorite Ottawa live streamer is coming up soon...
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JGLBKPR44U]

I too see the dose community as mutually supportive research. I've enjoyed learning with everyone.

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

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COVID-19 Round Table in DC With Sen. Ron Johnson (Video)

Story at-a-glance

  • Senator Ron Johnson moderated the COVID-19: A Second Opinion roundtable in Washington, D.C., to provide different perspectives on the pandemic response worldwide, the state of early treatment and hospital treatment and efficacy of COVID-19 shots
  • The panel included an all-star lineup with some of the most brilliant minds in their fields, nearly all of whom have experienced censorship, intimidation or professional reprisal and damage as a result of their advocacy
  • There are multiple compounds that have been used successfully in early COVID-19 treatment — nearly all of them repurposed or generic — but those who prescribe them risk losing their license
  • Dr. Mary Talley Bowden, an ENT specialist from Houston estimated that, using protocols such as ivermectin, high-dose IV steroids and vitamin C, she’s kept more than 2,000 people out of the hospital
  • The continued denial of natural immunity to COVID-19 is unprecedented and furthering the false notion that this is a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”
  • The roundtable serves as the “second opinion” that Americans need to put the pandemic response into perspective and get answers to questions from real experts who have no stake in the outcome — other than to save lives

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The panel included an all-star lineup with some of the most brilliant minds in their fields. Nearly all of them have experienced censorship, intimidation or professional reprisal and damage as a result of their advocacy, Johnson said. If you can, tune in to the entire discussion, or at least the condensed 34-minute version Johnson posted online, which is below.3 I’ve also summarized some of the most important highlights to follow.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jMONZMuS2U]

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Lot of police...live stream
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWBUqyB7y2k]

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“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”

Thanks for including that, SOE. I follow him on Twitter but somehow managed to miss this. He’s a voice of reason to be sure.

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If we think about the timeline of this pandemic it goes something like this:
(roughly)
Covid emerges in China
Trump and Fauci downplay the concerns
C19 makes it to America
Trump still seems in denial, his supporters echo the thought "this is just like any other flu".
Dems start critiquing Trump for not doing more.
Things start shutting down. Basketball tournaments end. People start flying back home.
Trump pushes big shut down. Many workers idle.
Trump pushes for big spending bill. Covers unemployment for private contractors. Enhances unemployment for almost all. Starts showering cash on businesses.
Trump pushes operation Warp Speed.
Dems still critique Trump and Republicans for not doing enough.
Dems push and Reps (feet dragging) oblige with masking, plexiglass, sanitation theatre.
Things reopen and we start our way back to some normalcy.
Trump pushes hope with vaccine near approval.
Dems push back that they don't trust his vaccine push.
Biden wins presidency.
Biden and Dems decide Trumps vaccine is flawless, unassailable, unquestionable and THE ONLY ANSWER.
Dems now push for mandates creating anger and division.
Dems now decide to take a "do little" approach. No new shut downs despite wide spread Omicron.
No new spending packages to help working class.
Declare victory as the charts and data suggest defeat.
Dems now push for censorship of anyone questioning their motives.
Vaccines turn out to not be all that effective.
Dems double down on vaccines.

Eeeerkgh.... (sounds of brakes screeching).
To avoid the huge crash of Dems smacking into an oak tree and Republicans taking over congress and two years later President Trump again....
What if Dems had done a few things different. I am not even talking about what is exactly the right thing to do for maximum effect ending a pandemic, just avoiding political suicide.
What if Dems had remained moderately skeptical of vaccine safety. And when the alarms started going off that we had issues, label it the Trump vaccine. Push Phizer to produce a new one. Even minimally different but maybe they could have made it a little safer by tweaking dosages? Have the new improved pushed out VOLUNTARILY but with a good PR campaign. Put all the vaccine deaths on Trump and Republicans. Investigate the lab leak theory and put all of that on Trump. Hang out a few people as sacrificial lambs- impose some fines on big Pharma (not even enough to put a dent in their profits), send a few lab techs to jail for committing fraudulent study work.

For every Dem that didnt get vaccinated a Republican would have. If the vaccines were effective we would still get the same result. Pharma still makes money like mad. Dems look smart and capable of running govt. (Add in more free testing too. And how about one week off, paid, for anyone testing positive?)

Sorry for the TLDR post, my point (if you have made it this far) is that the Dems could have come out smelling like roses on Covid. They could have buried the R party for a decade. Even without giving us M4A. Just a few tweaks in which side they landed on on certain issues. How did it come to be that they were the biggest cheerleaders for Trumps vaccine. And Trumpers were the biggest questioners of it? How did it come to be that Ds are hiding lab leak theory stuff which would indict Trump? Also, the Ds want a war with China. Investigating lab leak would set that up perfectly.
The pure politics of this are all messed up. (And that's not even getting at what we should have actually done to save lives.)
Its like the Ds wanted to fail. They could not have made worse choices.
Rant over. Have a nice day.
Thanks for all the great sharing of thoughts here at The Dose.

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Summed up perfectly.

Its like the Ds wanted to fail.

Again. For the 3rd time. Yup you got it right.

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Which AIPAC/MIC/pharma/bank bought politician are you going to vote for? Don’t be surprised when nothing changes.

@snoopydawg Did you see the article over at NC today about the test kits coming out?
I did not realize that this was being done by Department of Defense! The article tells the story of the costs being hidden from the public. And the agency not being able to do simple things like keeping their voicemail and email working. No one can answer simple questions about suppliers, sources, and costs.
I commented there the absurdity of an agency that cant do simple things like distributing test kits is going to start a war with Russia?
We are so doomed.
I started learning Mandarin a few years ago. Time to get back at it.

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A few people said that in the comments. It’s the same with masks they are buying for us. Ordered from China while there’s a company in Utah that has better quality ones. But they can’t get the government’s attention. I think the masks and tests and the other supplies are just another way to price gouge us and make others richer.

https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2022/02/what-are-taxpayers-spending-for-...

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@wouldsman
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the Dems could have come out smelling like roses on Covid. They could have buried the R party for a decade. Even without giving us M4A. Just a few tweaks in which side they landed on on certain issues. How did it come to be that they were the biggest cheerleaders for Trumps vaccine. And Trumpers were the biggest questioners of it? How did it come to be that Ds are hiding lab leak theory stuff which would indict Trump? Also, the Ds want a war with China. Investigating lab leak would set that up perfectly.

The pure politics of this are all messed up. (And that's not even getting at what we should have actually done to save lives.)

Its like the Ds wanted to fail. They could not have made worse choices.

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I have no criticism or disagreement with your summary of the political revolution taking place before our unbelieving eyes. I just want to elaborate on where your impeccable logic leads.

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Its like the Ds wanted to fail.

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Not only is it "like" they want to fail -- they do want to fail because they are not a political party. They are players in the fraudulent show of American "government."

Here are some of my thoughts on this topic that have appeared on this board:

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Democrats -- Stupid or Crooked?

Submitted by fire with fire on Wed, 06/17/2020 - 9:25am

Of course one possible answer to the title of this essay is, "both." Nevertheless I submit that this question is extremely important. A recent superb essay on this board focused on how to talk with lesser-evil voting folks, and cited the infamous Chuck Shumer line about picking up suburban moderate Republicans while losing traditional lunch pail Democrats. Obviously, Shumer and company do not care to accomplish anything that would benefit those traditional supporters of their party -- so why should they try to win their votes? Thus they are just Republicans now. I certainly agree.

However, I think the Democratic leadership is even more corrupt than that. These people are not stupid at all. They live the lives they have chosen to lead which is to be professional fundraisers. It is not the interest of "moderate" republican voters that they care about. It is the interest of the people who donate money to their campaigns that they care about.

Chuck's glib comment was a toss off -- to explain his own prostitution as though it were an electoral strategy. It is indeed an electoral strategy for the donors -- to own both parties to make sure that they get the government they buy.

This is not a subtle distinction. In support of my interpretation I point to the collapse of the number of Democrats in office over the last decade. The leaders of this party are content to dominate the big cities while blowing off the rest of the country. This keeps enough Democratic politicians in office for it to be a "national" party -- but guarantees that it will never be in power.

The Republican Party concentrates on those exurban and rural voters. The Constitution gives more political power to lower population states in the Electoral College and the Senate. So the Democrats have settled into a stalemate with the Republicans, that locks the status quo in place.

Instead of contending over policy, the two parties put all their public advocacy into accusing the other side of illegitimacy, criminality and treason. Investigations galore! This unprecedented duel of cheap propaganda totally devoid of practical consequence has the effect of discrediting government itself. That of course has been the primary political project of neoliberalism since the days of Thatcher and Reagan.

Hard to give any credit to government today, isn't it?

Simultaneously, the main news outlets of the 21st Century sensationalize the accusations flying back and forth, with Fox News and Talk Radio revving up the Red Shirts and the Legacy Media serving up the bile to the Blue Shirts. There is no significant difference between Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity. They are both entertainers with a particular schtick.

When I see a wide variety of advocacy on the internet that includes the thought that the Dems are too stupid to understand why they keep losing, I just shake my head in wonder.

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No matter what your starting point, this question determines how you view our political system as it operates today. If you think that voting matters and that the two political parties are struggling with each other over ideology, you will take what Biden, Harris, Pelosi, Shumer and the rest of them say seriously. If you think it is all bullshit, you will analyze what these medacious politicians say for clues at to what they are hiding with their lies -- as did samizdat Russians did in the waning days of the Soviet Empire.

History does not necessarily repeat itself just as correlation is not causation. But the irrational behavior of our political leaders makes little sense under any other interpretation than American Politics is congruent to the World Wrestling Federation.

Did you know that Trump is in the WWF Hall of Fame? Yet TDS sufferers scare themselves silly with his threat to democracy.

My answer: What democracy, numb nuts?

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/thousands-paris-police-brace-freedom...

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10503779/Justin-Trudeau-says-ta...

Cuz the elites aren't winning the narrative, "a state of emergency is declared"

Conservative Ontario Premier Doug Ford on Friday declared a state of emergency, threatening fines and jail

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I never knew that the term "Never Again" only pertained to
those born Jewish

"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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Insane indeed. One guy took a drone over the freeway and it goes on for miles and miles. That’s a lot of people.

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Enjoy

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@snoopydawg if you're one of the elites. This is especially true if your
PM/Prez/whatever is from a "5 Eye" country.

And I wonder how many other countries this is going on in that we
aren't hearing about?

The pigs need to wake up!

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"Antisemite used to be someone who didn't like Jews
now it's someone who Jews don't like"

Heard from Margaret Kimberley

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@NYCVG @NYCVG https://twitter.com/ConsumerSOS/status/1492652876006625283

More than 24 hours after the Deadlines and the Threats and the Armoured Tanks and The Snipers and the Busses to (presumably) transport Truckers and Protestors away from the Bridge, Nothing much has changed.

Except---the crowd of protestors has grown and there is a new Blockage on the American side.

Still no clear idea of If How When this existential battle resolves.

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. . . "and there is a new Blockage on the American side"

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https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/02/12/world/canada-protest-trudeau#pol...
Canadian Truck Protests
Locations of protests in the last week.

© Mapbox © OpenStreetMap
The New York Times
After first disrupting traffic in Ottawa, the nation’s capital, almost three weeks ago, truck drivers subsequently staged protests in other cities, including Toronto, Quebec City and Calgary, Alberta. As of Friday afternoon, four border crossings were blocked: Windsor; Sarnia, Ontario; Emerson, Manitoba; and Coutts, Alberta. (Another One predicted to be in place tomorrow in BC, My comment and prediction.)

See you all tomorrow.

Do not give up hope. It will not be soon or easy but victory is possible.

The map did not reproduce here. It will in the main story. Edit. No it did not.

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Now I am done for today.

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