All we are saying --

is give war a chance.

So let me get this straight. Maybe there will be a nuclear exchange some time before the elections in 2024. If it happens, everyone's cancer risks will go way up. The results will be blamed on Biden, whether the corporate media approve of such a message or not -- just as the public will blame inflation on Biden and the Democrats in two weeks when the midterms happen. And this is supposed to be a strategy for something or other.

Keep flying those blue and yellow flags y'all.

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I was thinking that perhaps their letter was to reign in those pesky lefty outliers who kinda think nuclear holocaust is not a healthy sustainable strategy.

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@crescentmoon Sustainability isn't.

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"there's something so especially sadistic about waving the flag of a country that you're actively destroying" -- Aaron Mate

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@crescentmoon

Just before they wrote their letter they voted to send billions in weapons to Ukraine and unless we get a oops our bad from them their letter is just "hey we are anti war again so vote for us."

What happened to the anti war left?

My question too. It seems that the anti war left dissolved the minute Obama started continuing Bush’s war of terror and increased troops in Afghanistan and decided that Gaddaffi needed to go in Libya and that drones saved American troops lives. They bitched about Trump trying to bring the troops home from Syria and Afghanistan because he was Orange man bad, but then cheered when Biden butchered the job. I got whiplash from how fast they pivoted from Covid Covid and anti vaxxers deserve to die to rah rah rah Ukraine and whitewashing our support of the Ukraine Nazis.

Yup just kabuki theater.

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If only.

Nuclear war should not be a political football, or a prop in our absurd Kabuki existence. The fact that it *is* being treated so is an abomination. If a nuclear exchange occurs in the current environment, none of us will live long enough to worry about developing cancers.

The situation that developed last week, in which a Russian fighter "dropped a missile" while in range of a British Rivet Joint signals intelligence aircraft (which is actually on loan from the USAF), is a great example of the risks we face. The claim is that it was a "mechanical failure", and apparently the missile either didn't have lock or the solid rocket motor failed to ignite. In any case, the crew of the Rivet Joint knew that a) they'd been painted, and b) that missile separation had occurred from that aircraft that had painted them. There would have been a lot of new buttonholes bitten in the underwear onboard that aircraft... If there had been lock and the motor had fired, that would be splash one Rivet Joint and crew- and then how do you just sweep that under the rug? There's only 17 of them in the inventory.

There as a great example of a situation in which a conflict could easily have been started by human error or mechanical/electrical failure.

There will be no limited nuclear conflict. As Tom Lehrer said, "We'll all fry together when we fry". We absolutely need to BACK THE FUCK AWAY from the brink, if you don't mind me saying so. There are far too many moving parts, partially-trained fallible humans, and opportunities for mischief to be here just to try to score cheap political points in a completely meaningless election.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

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@usefewersyllables is to keep the military money pipeline going. The military corporations had a real bonanza going with George W.'s twenty-year pointlessness in Afghanistan. The party, however, was over when Donald "Hitler" Trump decided to negotiate a withdrawal treaty with the Taliban and when Joe "closet Communist" Biden, who didn't like the so-called Afghan government anyway, decided to follow through.

So a new money pipeline had to be designed. This particular money pipeline, however, angers a nuclear power. But remember that Hunter Biden had his fingers in Ukraine, so that had to be "forgotten."

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Khakhol pig videos are now available as a playlist:
https://www.bitchute.com/playlist/8OQ1i93JQCW4/

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sure looks like it to me. After all, he is a paid actor, with a paid acting staff.
And unkie sam sure likes pork. Sacrificing pigs playing nazi games doesn't
have a good look. But progressives!!!

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@CB @QMS There's some longer-standing regionally-understood reference there.

Before this year, the go-to stereotype in Polandball comics (http://www.countryballcomics.com/) for Ukraine always involved it stealing a pig, or maybe chasing someone else who stole its pig.

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Ukrainian Flag Pig or pigposting meme.

About

Ukrainian Flag Pig, also known as Pigposting, refers to video memes based on 2D and 3D images of a bouncing pig painted blue and yellow after the flag of Ukraine. Originating from a long-running series of nationalistic Russian imageboard memes that offensively compare Ukrainians to pigs, in 2022, some videos based on the image were used to express solidarity with Ukraine, with the misuse of the meme and the current change of its meaning in part stemming from trolling tactics.

Origin

Although the Ukrainian Flag Pig has been predominantly used in instances of showing solidarity with Ukraine, primarily by Western users, this meme stems from a larger archetype of offensive memes that negatively compare Ukrainians to pigs. The memes have been primarily used on Russian-speaking imageboards, primarily 2ch (Двач) since at least the early 2010s and, more actively, following the 2014 Ukrainian conflict and subsequent Russian occupation of Crimea that year. The memes themselves are a development of Soviet and Russian jokes about Ukrainians[7] in which they are described as having a strong affinity for Ukrainian national dish salo (cured slabs of pig's fatback), revering it akin to a treasure.

Examples of memes negatively depicting Ukrainians as pigs can be discovered as early as January 2010, when Polandball was the era-appropriate way to discuss geopolitics (shown below).

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The use of pig memes saw a gradual increase on the Russian imageboard 2ch in the years following the 2014 Ukrainian conflict in Crimea, becoming a major trend in the 2020-2021 period. Such memes could often be found in online arguments between Russian and Ukrainian users on 2ch's /po/ (politics) board, with such discussions known as "khokhlosraches" ("хохлосрачи"), with "khokhol" being a Russian derogatory term for a Ukrainian.
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just announced they have withdrawn their "diplomacy" letter. It was staff to blame it turns out.

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@wokkamile  
Punching downward. How very progressive.

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@wokkamile
of that letter convinced me beyond a shadow of doubt to never vote for a Democrat again.
Up until now I have always (52 years) voted democrat. I'm joining Tulsi and fleeing the party forever.
Way to go morons.

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Neither Russia nor China is our enemy.
Neither Iran nor Venezuela are threatening America.
Cuba is a dead horse, stop beating it.

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@earthling1

are reaching that conclusion. If anyone cares at all about peace, it has become clear that the dems are not the place to go (as if they ever were). I'll never vote for a republican, because I'd know that if they claimed to want peace they were simply pandering. And now, the dems have shown themselves to not even be capable of a decent pander.

Never again: not one vote, not one dime, not one candidate. I bailed on the dems in 2016, but it doesn't matter when a person bails- it just matters that everyone eventually reach the epiphany that the dems are no bueno.

I have my mail-in ballot at home. I still have to fill it out- but this time, I think that I will do so with a Hershey bar.

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Twice bitten, permanently shy.

The only thing keeping the Republicans from killing me is the possibility of a left resistance. But now that the Democrats have proven themselves farther to the lunatic, mass murdering right than the Republicans ever dared all the cards are on the table and I am dead. It's just how long and how unpleasant.

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On to Biden since 1973

Anything other than wall to wall support for whatever the main stream narrative demands?

Meanwhile the "news" of the week is all about some billionaire rap star who went off the reservation, saying, among other heinous things, that there still exists unresolved bitterness between black musicians from prior decades and recording industry executives who are Jewish -- over the split of the take way back when. I did not notice any indignant condemnation when this bit of music business "Inside" history provided the plot for an episode of Tthe Sopranos a couple of decades ago.

The article I read on this provided a handy guide for understanding the issue -- today's real life version of David Chase's character, Massive Genius, is invoking the antisemitic stereotype of Jewish greed. The reader is instructed to see this truth, just as The Squad and its fans are instructed to see the truth of war against Russia as a moral imperative. From the literally earthshaking topic of nuclear war to the embarrassingly trivial topic of Ye's assinine yammering, all public discourse is under total control.

Orwell was far short of the mark.

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I cried when I wrote this song. Sue me if I play too long.

call it diplomacy, or sanity or changing the narrative -- whatever.
MSM are only the mouthpieces of the psychopaths in charge.
If challenging the notion about the survival of the human race is no longer
acceptable, we are way over the edge. A few well placed gags are needed.
Bolton, Cheney, Biden, Bush, Trump, Harris, DeSantis, Powell, Duke, Bezos, Gates
-- are all sold out. If we could only stop the noise, maybe there would be a chance
for peaceful discussions during our tenure?

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@humphrey

I won't be that surprised if, before the end of the day,
@RepJayapal
announces that she and the rest of the House Progressives are getting tattoos of Volodymyr Zelensky and the Raytheon logo on their bodies to repent for their momentary lapse of loyalty:

Lol…me neither. They should have to resign the word progressive and just call themselves the corporate democrats. It’s what they are anyway.

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@humphrey The Democrats pretend that they are preserving democracy. That's what they were running on in NYC. Until this week when the polls show that the GOP candidates are gathering strength. Now they are pivoting to crime and inflation. Too late, assholes.

This repulsive display from Boston shows us the truth about the Democrats.

Fascists. Narcissists.

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is being framed in nuclear holocaust terms. Vote for me, and I'll kindly ask the nuclear
bombers to hold off until the next election. Or, if you don't vote for (whichever party)
you will die. And enjoy it! Stupid, irresponsible voters anyway. Can't you see?

What certain death does for the vote .. unfortunately neither party wants to make a stand.

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We should never listen to these assholes telling us how to win elections ever again.

What I find sad about the shitlibs supporting Ukraine because Russia crossed into their country is that most people aren’t aware of the history behind the conflict or our role in instigating it. Plus they have no idea how Ukraine has been killing people in the Donbas for 8 years and that they were sending even more bombs and troops in just before Russia did.

The squad is being called appeasers and tankies. Lol…But seriously how can so many people be so damned ignorant of what their country has/is doing? No wonder our country has been at war almost the entire time it’s been in existence? We the people don’t give a crap.

Did someone think the Tankie contingent was a good demographic to woo?

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What is a tankie? Isn't that a cutie something that drives around on treads and has a big gun sticking
out of it? I hear tank tops are all the rage in southern climes, but I still call them wife beater shirts.
If it is an emblem of macho male domination, then the guys in detroit would be marketing them
as the most bad-assed, gas guzzling humvee upgrade for the suburban 9tofivers desperate to
prove their metal. Wink

But seriously, I got tanked once or twice, got thrown in the tank on some occasions and knew this
guy that had a really big fish tank, even breathed out of a tank, but can't really figure out if that makes me a tankie, tanker or tinker?

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@QMS A brief summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie

I think in todays vernacular a Tankie is roughly defined as someone who sides with State authoritarianism, whether by violence or controlling the narrative/framing (see E. Warren above).

While Wikipedia is something of a Tankie (mouthpiece of the State) itself, one can often find some kind of initial entry. Another resource is the Urban Dictionary..

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@BORG_US_BORG

Anyone who isn’t behind Ukraine is a tankie according to kos and the kos-ettes.

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Kos calls anyone who isn’t supporting Ukraine and asks for peace a tankie. Caitlin, Aaron and Greenwald are at the top of the list as being tankies. He posts their tweets and watches as people try to outdo others on calling them on it. I’m pretty sure that we are tankies too. I used to skip reading his essays on Russia, but I glance through his commentary just so I can understand why the people there are so misinformed. I’m being kind. You’d have to read one to see what I mean. There’s one today that starts out with him claiming that Putin said that he wants to destroy Europe by withholding energy. Funny cuz just a few weeks ago Putin was still offering it to Germany through the remaining gas line.

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@snoopydawg

We should never listen to these assholes telling us how to win elections ever again.

...as if they ever did???

Go on, be our guest; the worse you get, the more you'll lose.

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of her party's massaging. Not actions, not policies, not positions, but messaging, to cover up the lies and betrayals.
Republicans are out to get us, and they are very straightforward about it, so I give them that. Never any feelings of being stabbed in the back. You can believe the ensuing shit you will be served on a platter.

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@on the cusp Trump-style open hostility is therefore objectively more livable than Clintoncratic betrayal.

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@The Liberal Moonbat destroyed the party with his Blue Dawgs, reach across the aisle, shift right shit. Since Bill, we are all righties.

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@The Liberal Moonbat Absolutely! Forewarned is forearmed.

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@humphrey

He went after the woke shit were men could get pregnant and mommy suddenly becomes daddy and vice versa. Or that little Susie could become a Samual…As for Ukraine’s democracy hasn’t Zelensky banned all opposition parties and locked up some of the people who could run against him?

Good lord with who we have as our representatives no wonder life is getting worse for most of us.

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you are death to me.

this is war.

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as an ideological conflict between communism and capitalism. It was overwrought and hypocritical in many ways, but it was in actual fact based on a dispute over how society should be organized. The soviets had the audacity to surrender and give up on the idea of International Communism -- leaving our war economy without a reason for being.

We replaced communism with "terrorism" as of 2001. Since no enemy state openly celebrated terrorism as a way of life, our government had no actual enemy and had to hoke them up with mainly personality based hostility against evil doers like Saddam and Assad. Today's "left" with its identity politics has come up with a substitute for Marxist ideology as the Enemy -- calling it Fascism, but really just globalizing Identity Politics.

They are rewarded with respectability by the folks who run the war machine -- something that prior generations of left wingers never asked for. Of course, there is really nothing "leftist" about this new Party Line, but today's "conservatives" make sure to call these people "leftists" loudly and often. Good times for the war machine, much better than the original Cold War.

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It appears that Russia's discovery of the thirty-odd biological warfare labs run by the US and Ukraine in Ukraine has been put on the backburner since its outing. The repeated attacks on the Zap nuclear power plant by the nazis has slowed, again from the publicity. Hopefully, the dirty bombs will be put back in their lockers.

There was a report that whole units of US forces are on the ground in battle.

I'm really not sure what the US, or NATO's strategy actually is.

If this oil war ends in the defeat of the US as it appears, Western Europe, it seems, will simply resolve their issues with Russia. I mean what does Ukraine offer Europe but a flood of poor Ukrainians with a superiority complex, helping to provide nazis and more prostitutes. But Russia has natgas. What would you rather have this winter: heat or a goosestepping prostitute?

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@Bob In Portland ...there is a market for goosestepping prostitutes.

Looks like Prince Harry picked the wrong decade to get hitched!!!

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@Bob In Portland Picturing goosestepping prostitutes right now!
Ukraine superiority complex is also a keeper!

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@on the cusp https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/15/world/anne-frank-diary-pages-revealed-trn...

Do you know why the German Wehrmacht girls are in the Netherlands?
As mattresses for the soldiers.

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