HRC throws Wasserman Schultz under the bus
Hear the rumors about the incredible Debbie Wasserman Shultz (DWS--aka Down With Sanders) is about to be deposed from chairing the DNC, where she has done such a fantastic job of turning the Senate, Congress, innumerable state legislatures from Blue to Red? Some say that this idea is being floated as a trial balloon to see if this will mollify the Sanders campaign into prostrating themselves as the Queen approaches her Philadelphia Coronation and provide "unity" to the Democratic Party.
Certain phrases immediately come to mind about this move:
locking the barn after the cows get out
too little, too late
penny wise, pound foolish
If this is a trial balloon, it is one that is already leaking and will not fly. Does the DNC (which really means the HRC machine) really believe that having a bus roll over one of DWS's legs (not both, because this is only a trial) will mollify the Sandernistas? Ha ha ha.
Let us count the ways HRC has recently been courting the Progressive wing of the Democratic Party:
1. Inventing the false story of chair throwing and violence at the recent NV convention
2. Continuing calls for Bernie to drop out of the race because his campaign is "hurting" precious Hillary
3. The extremely like probability of election fraud in KY, where with 98% of polls reporting, having Bernie leading by 1000+ votes, suddenly to have HRC win by more than 2000 votes, all from just 2% of KY precincts.
4. Having her stooges go on at least 3 MSM talk shows, talking about Bernie being a "zombie" candidate because he's already lost but is still campaigning
5. Reneging a California pre-primary debate, a promise which she made in order to secure a pre-primary NH debate months ago.
This proposed sacrifice of DWS on the altar of party unity is just another example of Hillary's loyalty to someone who has outlived her usefulness. The parting conversation will be: "Sorry, Debbie, you've been a good soldier, but get the hell outta here--and don't let the door smack you on the ass".
To paraphrase Dorothy Parker, who paraphrased Shakespeare: Duplicity is duplicity is Hillary.
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The Queen is not Party head (on paper).
So whose boss is she? Obama is titular head of the Party, but walked away from that. Hillary seems to fill vacuums.
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That's not at all clear!
In a Parliamentary system, the Prime Minister is the leader of the majority (say Liberal) party; the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition leads the Official Opposition, and and the Leader of the third, fourth, ... etc Parties leads, well, those Parties.
Mind you, in a Parliamentary system it is assumed that Party leaders also have their own House seats. Only very infrequently is it the case that a Party leader has no seat in the House.
So: Who is the "Leader" of the Democratic or Republican Parties? How is that defined?
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Customarily?
When the other party holds the White House, it's the chair of the DNC or RNC.
For instance, right now Priebus, the chair of the RNC, is head of the Republican party.
When you yourself hold the White House, it's supposed to be the President.
Right now, Obama is supposed to be the head of the Democratic party.
That's my understanding, but I don't think these rules are written down anywhere.
And I'm not advocating for this set of customs. Just stating.
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She' did what was planned - what she was supposed to do. Coming in now and firing her is just more theater. Criticizing her now is as well.
They probably think that firing her/openly criticizing her shows how 'on top of things' they are and makes a good gesture to the masses. This is a meaningless gesture. They used her and now they can discard her. The fact that they get to say things about her now and put on a show is just icing on the cake.
It would be like the Clinton's hiring a goon to rough up someone, and then walking over after it was done. They stand there, looking down on you, and pay this person for services rendered, and that person walks away.
They're not even going to help you get up. They are smirking to one another. And in an attempt to supposedly make you feel better, they say they are going to fire this person and talk about how it's bad what that person did.
DWS has been expendable for some time now. They got what they needed form her. They can easily discard this person and pretend that they are now 'doing the right thing'.
The sideshow they stage in getting rid of her and openly criticizing her now is/will be just another indicator of how stupid they think most people are in comparison themselves. It shows a complete disdain for the electorate. And somehow, we're supposed to idolize them, believe in them, trust in them, and have faith in their intentions and goals for disrespecting us.
^^^This!!!^^^
I totally agree this is theater. The only thing I would add to this comment is that DWS will not be totally discarded. She will be rewarded in some way for playing the bad cop.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
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In some way? We know exactly
In some way? We know exactly what way she we be rewarded. She will get a sweet K street gig making mad cash hand over fist.
Consider the source, BUT....
....yesterday, I heard a radio interview with former House Administration Comm. Chair (the "Mayor Of Capitol Hill" in D.C. slang) Bob Ney (R-San Quentin Prison) who went to the Big House in the Jack Abramoff bribery case. Ney feels that the Rethugs threw him under the bus (which they did, although he was guilty as sin, and readily admitted it again in the interview).
Interestingly, he also lit into Payday Wasserman Schultz. Ney said that the "real" DWS is even worse than her onscreen persona. He said that she is an uncompromising bully. She's vicious and arrogant. But on a bipartisan note, he said that she's equally disliked on both sides of the aisle. I guess that makes her the Dem version of Ted Cruz, doesn't it.
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Bob Ney is actually a nice guy
I mean, for a Republican. But still.
More theater - Clintons spin on OIG :)
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Rally funny -
Anyone else wanna bet they'll do ANYTHING to distract from this, and whatever the FBI comes out with!
Even dumping DWS?
omg
Now I have this picture in my head....
headline
Clinton names DWS to SoS post in first post-election news as president-elect
Problem is, the Base has soundly rejected DWS. Is this a sign of a hobbled administration right out of the gate?
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Not sure it matters.
I mean 8 years ago the base soundly rejected Clinton, and yet the president elect made her SoS.
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a meaningless gesture at this point, a sop that misses the
mark by a mile. The only possible benefit: Her ouster might improve Tim Canova's chances to get her out of politics for good.
Anyone else notice the unleashing of all sorts of trial balloons in recent days? If they'd cared enough to listen before now, things would be verrrry different. They're not. Trial balloons signify fear that they're losing control. They are. The intel community, Obama, or whoever is orchestrating this drip, drip, drip to disqualify Clinton is taking the decision out of their hands.
Spouse observes that Obama seems to have an inner smile and an extra bounce in his step. Interesting.
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I hadn't really thought of that.
The idea that Obama might be screwing with Hillary had, in all honesty, NOT entered my mind. One of the many reasons I would SUCK at being a politician is I don't see scheming behind every smile; But when confornted with this suggestion all I could think of was "Huh, would this be Obama's revenge?" Proof positive that either she:
Note that I really don't see a third option (Wins, but somehow is a decent president) -- the fact that there is ALREADY talk of a Clinton impeachment BEFORE SHE'S EVEN BEEN NOMINATED OFFICIALLY makes the edict to stall and obstruct Obama almost reasonable by comparison.
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Obama has acknowledged that he supports FSC
(at a fundraiser, not open to the public), so I'm not sure that the dismissal of DWS--if it happens--is meant to diss, or disqualify FSC.
From what I've read, the Dem Party Leadership/Elites hope that throwing DWS under the bus will mollify Bernie supporters, so that FSC can get their support, and win the election.
Dunno. Guess time will tell.
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All true. We know who she's been working for all along.
But I still want her canned. I want a long list of symbolic gestures. Substance may yet follow form. The more the better. I want Sanders to take over the party. I think that's the best approach.
Sadly, it makes no difference...
...if she gets fires, or even if she loses her House seat to Tim Canova. In the end she still wins by failing upward into a plum job in the next Clinton Administration, or at AIPIC, or as a talking head on CNN, AND she won't have to spend 4 hours a day raising campaign funds by sucking up to plutocrats...
I want my two dollars!
Drip, drip, drip,...
Between the email server investigations and the coronation, looks like the DNCs rush to push out progressives is well explained, useful fools are cheap and easy to replace for a quick bump (read DWS), but it is the trail of disaster left in the wake of the Clintons that is difficult to erase. The winds must have shifted ... somewhere: triangulation antennas are spinning; possibly, wall street asked for some updated poll results for all their investment.
Good times
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said this would matter to them. Cheap dates.
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make no mistake, we are vindictive as hell
and know how to con and scam with the best of them. This aint a cheap date, more like surf and turf with no intention of giveing the DNC/clintons even a hug let alone a good night kiss.
Solidarity forever
nice to hear that....
You guys have the power and the future. I'd hate to see you vote blue no matter who.
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Hey, Where d'ja find the stats on Kentucky?
I've missed that - looks like fun (well, ok, not exactly fun to watch democracy be ground into the dirt, but at any rate, I've missed this nugget).
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I don't think the KY issue matters
The last data dump came from Louisville, so that would explain the Hillary votes. The ended up splitting the pledged delegates equally after all, so a half percent squeaker for Hillary means exactly the same thing as a half point squeaker for Bernie, except for bragging rights.
And Bernie did exceptionally well in KY, a closed primary border state that Hillary romped in against Obama.
It was a recanvass, not a revote
The votes that disappeared briefly, and entirely, from Pike Co. not explained. Complaints of fraud reported in 31 (!) counties in KY. Recanvass doesn't address any of that. He may well have won the actual vote; no way to tell with this half-measure 2nd look.
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Anybody know in HRC was a General in a previous life?
Because she sure seems to be really good at fighting the last war.
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I'll go with McClellan:
DC insider excellent at organizing forces but incompetent and indecisive in battle.
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at least his indecision was rooted in a sincere
concern for the wellbeing of his troops.
or so the story goes, at any rate.
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Caligula is the likely incarnation...
She would seem to fit his 'little boots' rather well, unfortunately.
This is a shiny object
hope no one here falls for it. As others have said DWS will be paid well for falling on her sword and her replacement will be cut from the same cloth that she is.
Team Clinton are desperate - they know the real math. Let's not appease them by sending the message that the kabuki of DWS's head on a plate changes anything.
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Agree that it's way too little way too late,
Let's not appease them by sending the message that the kabuki of DWS's head on a plate changes anything.but I still say take the scalp if it's offered. After all, it's they who are trying to appease us with this hollow gesture.
And at the very least it will give some of the other more obnoxious Hill boosters something to think about.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Yep. Total theater. (As in theater of the obtuse).
And IIRC, Kos called for her dismissal 2 or 3 weeks ago (when I was still a regular visitor of ToP.) Perhaps Marcos was asked by TPTB in the DNC to send out a trial balloon to the "left". As if there's much of a "left" left over there.
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How bout we let them think they're winning so they let their
guard down. And when/if they eventually do get it, it will be too late, and we win.
The splintering of Hill's DNC support begins.
A big crack shows in the united establishment wall. Superdels are getting nervous.
FYI: My guess is the anonymous Senate Dem floater was Boxer.
The current working assumption appears to be that our Shroedinger's Cat system is still alive. But what if we all suspect it's not, and the real problem is we just can't bring ourselves to open the box?
Only if Hillary ALSO has Time Traveling Delorean...
And does this six months ago.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Unfortunately, she only has ...
... a time traveling AMC Gremlin. And that won't even hit 88 mph on a 45 degree downward slope.
Or an AMC Pacer
Perfect for baking bread in the hot sun. Try driving across Arizona in one of those rolling convection ovens!
A Pinto
with a sign on the trunk saying To Ignite Strike Here.
Meh
If all I wanted was schadenfreude I could get my biggest bang for the buck voting for Trump. (All the sorrowful wailing and lamentations from the Clinton supporters - and the Clintons for that matter - should The Donald win ...). That would power the entire planet if you convert schadenfreude into electricity.
And outside of a quick hit of schadenfreude I couldn't care less about whether DWS stays in her position or fails up.
I think this may be more what I read on TOP (sorry):
It doesn't look good for DWS to go straight from the current position to Hill's Cabinet, so she takes a few months off. Then will be appointed to the Cabinet.
They're all assuming Hill will win, of course. If she loses, the joke's on DWS.
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Hillsry will just appoint her
Hillsry will just appoint her to her cabinet.
Beat Trump with Bernie!
not sure she'll get into the cabinet
i am sure she'll get a K street position
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if DWS is dropped it's because of the convention
she'd get such a poor response (boos from the Sanders people, competing cheers from the Clintonites) it would only highlight the problems the Dems have and I think that's what they want to avoid.
We might have party unity...
booing DWS off the stage.
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cowards. they are cowards.
and stupid... people supporting Sanders are NOT going to fall for this. what's even funnier is: Bernie's not going to fall for it. he's going to let them go on with this bullshit and then keep doing what he's been doing: playing his game. not theirs.
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I am sure DWS will end up just fine, if HRC beats Trump.
I imagine Ambassador to somewhere, or some other payback.
Peace out, tmp.
I knew this was coming.
It was only a matter of time that she would outlive her usefulness, even though that time came and went more than four years ago.
However, it was only a matter of time before the DNC would get rid of DWS as a show of good faith to progressives. When you have Kos calling for her ouster, you can get a feeling that the party can no longer take the heat from liberals by continuing to have her on as chairman. It's purely symbolic, and the machine will replace her w/ another party stooge.