Open Thread - Wed. May 25, 2016 - Neo-Liberalism = The Legacyof Bill Clinton
Good Morning 99%'ers! Today marks the sixth edition in my series on neo-liberalism. To be honest, I never thought this series of essays would go on this long, but it seems to be a never ending wealth of information out there on the black hole ideology that is neo-liberalism.
Just when we thought it could not get any worse, Hillary Clinton announced while campaigning in Kentucky that when she is elected that she intends to put her husband, former President Bill Clinton in charge of revitalizing the economy.
Campaigning in Kentucky recently, she promised that, should she be elected, she would task former president Bill Clinton with “revitalizing the economy, because he knows how to do it”. A few minutes before, she had recited her husband’s qualifications for this job: “In the 90s, everybody’s income went up, not just people at the top. We lifted more people out of poverty than at any time in our recent history.” And so on.
If you can bear to watch, here is the video of that speech. I will be honest that I have not watched it because I cannot stand to listen to her for more than about five seconds. Part of it is her voice, but mostly it is because I know she is just self serving and corrupt and not a single word out of her mouth should be believed. However, I will accept numerous written reports that this is what she said in that video.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJgJfE40ZrU]
The idea of having Bill Clinton in charge of revitalization of the economy presents a horrifying scenario to those who know just how destructive the policies enacted under his administration have proven over the long term. On Monday, May 23, Bob Swern posted two diaries over at the other place based upon columns written by Thomas Frank and Yves Smith of Naked Capitalism. Both writers were adamant that Bill Clinton should not be allowed anywhere near the economy after all the damage he did during his own administration. Yves Smith did a nice summary of exactly why Bill Clinton's policies were so destructive to our economy in the long term.
In an article, written nearly one year ago, the staff of the Alternet listed fifteen ways Bill Clinton failed the United States and the world. I suggest you follow the link in this paragraph to read what the Alternet staff had to say.
In my May 18, 2015 essay last week, I referenced a May 15, 2016 interview between Truthout and Thomas Frank on Bill Clinton's legacy. I am going to post a quote from that article again this week because, in light of Hillary Clinton's announcement, it serves as another reminder of the danger of having Bill Clinton in charge of the economy again, should Hillary Clinton become elected President.
Truthout:This is a little off message regarding the book, but can you speculate why the Republicans were so obsessed with removing Clinton from office when he was fulfilling so much of the GOP agenda, including negotiating with Newt Gingrich about cutting Medicare and Social Security?
Frank: "Fulfilling so much of the GOP agenda": That is a point worth reiterating. Clinton had five major achievements as president: NAFTA, the Crime Bill of 1994, welfare reform, the deregulation of banks and telecoms, and the balanced budget. All of them -- every single one -- were longstanding Republican objectives. His smaller achievements were more traditionally Democratic (he raised the earned-income tax credit and the minimum wage), but his big accomplishments all enacted conservative wishes, and then all of them ended in disaster.
Each of these five major achievements of the Clinton administration was not only a long standing Republican objective, but also each one represents one of the characteristics of neo-liberalism which was the focus of my May 11, 2016 essay. These characteristics were defined in an article written by Elizabeth Martinez and Arnoldo Garcia for Corporate Watch.
Here is a brief summary of those five characteristics of neo-liberalism, in light of which I will review Bill Clinton's five major achievements during his administration.
THE RULE OF THE MARKET.
CUTTING PUBLIC EXPENDITURE FOR SOCIAL SERVICES and REDUCING THE SAFETY-NET FOR THE POOR.
DEREGULATION.
PRIVATIZATION.
ELIMINATING THE CONCEPT OF "THE PUBLIC GOOD" or "COMMUNITY."
So let's look at the five of Bill Clinton's major achievements and how they relate to the neo-liberal agenda based upon the characteristics of neo-liberalism.
1. NAFTA
THE RULE OF THE MARKET. Liberating "free" enterprise or private enterprise from any bonds imposed by the government (the state) no matter how much social damage this causes. Greater openness to international trade and investment, as in NAFTA. Reduce wages by de-unionizing workers and eliminating workers' rights that had been won over many years of struggle. No more price controls. All in all, total freedom of movement for capital, goods and services. To convince us this is good for us, they say "an unregulated market is the best way to increase economic growth, which will ultimately benefit everyone." It's like Reagan's "supply-side" and "trickle-down" economics -- but somehow the wealth didn't trickle down very much.
It has been over twenty years since NAFTA was enacted so we have a very good picture of how much harm the lifting of trade barriers has done. The goal of NAFTA was to eliminate trade barriers, such as tariffs between the United States, Canada, and Mexico. NAFTA was sold to the American people as a way to increase jobs and benefits for US workers. Bill Clinton specifically promised that NAFTA would create 200,000 new living wage jobs each year. In fact, the opposite happened almost immediately as corporations began shedding jobs in the US for lower wage jobs in Mexico and depressing wages and benefits thus increasing income and wealth inequality.
In an article in the Huffington Post dated March, 2014, the author lists the long term impacts of NAFTA. These impacts include the loss of over one million US jobs, mostly in manufacturing and a $181 billion trade deficit with Canada and Mexico. In addition, NAFTA has led to an escalation in income inequality and the displacement of over one million Mexican campesino farmers.
The study makes for a blood-boiling read. For instance, we track the specific promises made by U.S. corporations like GE, Chrysler and Caterpillar to create specific numbers of American jobs if NAFTA was approved, and reveal government data showing that instead, they fired U.S. workers and moved operations to Mexico.
The data also show how post-NAFTA trade and investment trends have contributed to middle-class pay cuts, which in turn contributed to growing income inequality; how since NAFTA, U.S. trade deficit growth with Mexico and Canada has been 45 percent higher than with countries not party to a U.S. Free Trade Agreement, and how U.S. manufacturing exports to Canada and Mexico have grown at less than half the pre-NAFTA rate.
2. Crime Bill of 1994
ELIMINATING THE CONCEPT OF "THE PUBLIC GOOD" or "COMMUNITY" and replacing it with "individual responsibility." Pressuring the poorest people in a society to find solutions to their lack of health care, education and social security all by themselves -- then blaming them, if they fail, as "lazy."
The 1994 Crime Bill provided for increased policing, tougher sentencing laws, and more money to build prisons. The result of the 1994 has been mass incarceration, with minority communities suffering greatly. It has come with a huge human cost. With tougher sentencing laws and the criminalization of what once were minor offenses, the net effect of the 1994 Crime Bill has been to create a huge under class of people in this country with no hope of ever getting a second chance.
"We now know with the fullness of time that we made some terrible mistakes," Travis said. "And those mistakes were to ramp up the use of prison. And that big mistake is the one that we now, 20 years later, come to grips with. We have to look in the mirror and say, 'look what we have done.'"
Nick Turner of Vera put the human costs even more starkly.
"If you're a black baby born today, you have a 1 in 3 chance of spending some time in prison or jail," Turner said. "If you're Latino, it's a 1 in 6 chance. And if you're white, it's 1 in 17. And so coming to terms with these disparities and reversing them, I would argue, is not only a matter of fairness and justice but it's, I would argue, a matter of national security."
3. Welfare Reform
CUTTING PUBLIC EXPENDITURE FOR SOCIAL SERVICES like education and health care. REDUCING THE SAFETY-NET FOR THE POOR, and even maintenance of roads, bridges, water supply -- again in the name of reducing government's role. Of course, they don't oppose government subsidies and tax benefits for business.
In keeping with the neo-liberal ideology that everyone should be able to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, Clinton's welfare reform ignored the structural issues that reinforce the cycle of poverty. In addition, the effect of Clinton's Welfare reform was to penalize poverty. Welfare reform worked hand in hand with the crime bill by taking money away from the social safety net and funneling it into more policing and prisons.
His primary goal in dismantling AFDC, as he put it, was to end the “cycle of dependence” and “achieve a national welfare reform bill that will make work and responsibility the law of the land.”
Clinton did not offer a departure from either earlier liberal policies that blamed the poor for their poverty or neoliberal economics. Instead, he turned what had been a few piecemeal reforms into a systematic overhaul of federal policy that led to the criminalization of the welfare poor. He redirected state resources away from financial support for the needy and toward surveillance and criminalization.
4. Deregulation of banks and telecoms
DEREGULATION. Reduce government regulation of everything that could diminsh profits, including protecting the environmentand safety on the job.
While we all are familiar with the repeal of Glass-Steagall, many people are not aware of the impact of deregulation of the telecoms. Clinton hailed the deregulation of the telecoms as something that would foster competition by removing barriers to ownership. So what happened? Here is just one example. Let this sink in for a moment. And it continues across all forms of the telecommunications industry.
By 2001, there were 10,000 radio station transactions worth approximately $100 billion. As a result, 1,100 fewer station owners were in the business, down nearly 30 percent since 1996. Two companies -- Clear Channel and Viacom's Infinity Broadcasting -- controlled one-third of all radio advertising revenue; in some individual markets their stations commanded nearly 90 percent of the ad dollars. Clear Channel alone owned nearly 1,200 stations, the result of buying up 70 separate broadcast companies.
As far as the repeal of Glass/Steagall, which had previously separated commercial banking from investment banking, both Hillary and Bill Clinton have argued that its repeal was not the cause of the banking crisis and the great recession of 2008. But here is an interesting quote from an article by Charles Pierce in Esquire magazine.
Greider goes on to quote a former Citigroup CEO named John Reed, who makes an interesting point about what happened within the culture of banking after the walls of Glass-Steagall were removed.
"Mixing incompatible cultures is a problem all by itself," Reed wrote. "It makes the entire finance industry more fragile…. As is now clear, traditional banking attracts one kind of talent, which is entirely different from the kinds drawn towards investment banking and trading. Traditional bankers tend to be extroverts, sociable people who are focused on longer term relationships. They are, in many important respects, risk averse. Investment bankers and their traders are more short termist. They are comfortable with, and many even seek out, risk and are more focused on immediate reward." Reed concludes, "As I have reflected about the years since 1999, I think the lessons of Glass-Steagall and its repeal suggest that the universal banking model is inherently unstable and unworkable. No amount of restructuring, management change or regulation is ever likely to change that."
5. Balanced budget.
PRIVATIZATION. Sell state-owned enterprises, goods and services to private investors. This includes banks, key industries, railroads, toll highways, electricity, schools, hospitals and even fresh water. Although usually done in the name of greater efficiency, which is often needed, privatization has mainly had the effect of concentrating wealth even more in a few hands and making the public pay even more for its needs.
For this one, I return to Thomas Frank who has such a wonderful way of articulating issues in a language that we all can understand. In his recent article in the Guardian, Thomas Frank explains the myriad of reasons why Bill Clinton should not be allowed near the economy. When it comes to a balanced budget, he begins with a quote from Hillary Clinton herself and then takes it from there.
It seems that Hillary, too, longs to make America great again, and she reminded the audience in Kentucky of the specific elements of our lost golden age. First among those gauzy memories: “A budget that is balanced and in surplus” – like the budget Bill Clinton built in the good old days before the spendthrift George W Bush administration came in.
So what does a balanced budget do to a nation in recession? Frank explains that too in very simple terms.
Take her apparent belief that balancing the federal budget is a good way to “revitalize” an economy stuck in persistent hard times. Nostalgia might indeed suggest such a course, because that’s what Bill Clinton did in the golden 90s, and those were happy days. But more recent events have taught us a different lesson. Europe’s turn toward budget-balancing austerity after the financial crisis is what made their recession so much worse than ours. President Obama’s own quest for a budget-balancing “grand bargain” is what destroyed his presidency’s transformative potential. There is no plainer lesson from the events of recent years than the folly of austerity and the non-urgency of budget-balancing.
So do we really want a staunch neo-liberal like Bill Clinton in charge of our economy? I think not. Heck, I know not. Neo-liberalism is the ideology that has destroyed our economy for the average person and funnels wealth upwards.
As always, this is an open thread so feel free to post whatever is on your mind this morning.
Comments
Good morning! Wonderful diary - Thanks!
Neoliberalism has at its core the belief that "free" markets(they are anything but that - government establishes them and maintains them) and unregulated capitalism tends towards full employment with rising wages.
The fact is that unregulated capitalism, especially international monopoly capital tends towards stagnation and can exist only through exploitation and expropriation of new sources of labor and raw material. Capitalism never wants to clean up its environmental messes because the system views the earth as its free dump ground.
With the repeal of Glass Steagall, we have a regime of banksterism where bankers run roughshod over communities they are chartered to serve and create all manner of financial securities, some of which are designed to fail. As has been shown, bankers have created these instruments and then made bets so that when they fail, banks profit. This is in addition to the fees they had already made selling these instruments to pension funds, mutual funds, and individuals.
Bankers commit crimes, banks do not: When Goldman bank(I think it was Goldman) was fined - actually agreed to pay - $5Billion, Obama hailed it as proof his DoJ and other Depts were effective and on the job. Part of the fine was unmonitored payments to financially marginal communities that had been abused by the bank; and part of it was allowed to be a business expense which means We The People subsidized the fine with our tax dollars. And...The bankers who committed the crimes were not prosecuted and went unnamed.
Why are we letting these people near our drinking water? Why does anyone think having a new layer of middlemen skimming money can make anything more efficient? It's absurd on its face and has been proven so in real life.
One last thing: I never thought I'd see the day when public schools and their teachers would be villified; marginalized; shut down; and replaced with for-profit entities with through-the-roof compensation for the companies. New Orleans used the hurricane to eliminate its public schools and it is a disaster for the people of the city. Obama needs to be singled out for blame here for appointing Arne Duncan and giving his privatization schemes full support.
To me, neoliberalism has shown to be a corrupt and corrupting system, impoverishing people, and destroying the local environments in which it operates. Those traditional societies that are food secure are being displaced, people thrown off their ancestral lands, and plantations of monoculture for-export crops replacing the staples previously grown by farmers with small acreage farms. It's a parasitical system that is making the earth uninhabitable and needs to be eliminated. Bill Clinton is not the one to do this and Hillary Clinton is not the one to be president at this, or any other, time.
Thanks again for the series - I've learned a lot and appreciate your effort.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Thank you!
Thank you for your always excellent comments.
Neo-liberalism is another term for the rampant greed of a few at the expense of many.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Rampant greed and no thought for others about
sums it up.
It's fascinating, and appalling, that so many will throw over their education and vocation to enable the money junkies. I am particularly thinking of economists who refuse to process the data that shows neoliberalism to a destructive force and continue with what amounts to received wisdom and pass that on as research and the basis of economic activity.
Mainstream economists are loathe to address the obscene concentration of wealth and power and work to marginalize those few economists who do. Martin Feldstein who chaired Reagan's council of economic advisors said certain CEOs and basketball players received huge annual paychecks but that it wasn't a topic for serious economic discourse. (Didn't Krugman work for Reagan too?)
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
You have to be a master carpenter.......
Hitting so many nails on the head is practiced skill. ;}
Only thing i'd add was that the "booming 90's" was fueled by credit card debt and using our homes as ATM machines. Which is what really gets under my skin when the BillHillShill machine brags about their economic prowess. We paid for it but they want all the credit (not so funny pun).
21st Century America: The distracted, superficail perception of a virtual reality.
Debt in the USA
In 1970, total debt - federal, state, municipal, corporate, household - was approximately $1Trilion. In 2012, total debt was approximately $50Trtillion. This is from the man who began the PIMCO investment firm which at one time owned more bonds than any other firm.(His name slips my mind but he's an excellent source.) He was interviewed in Barrons.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Capitalism's success itself is misleading
The largest companies are benefiting from resources that belong to all of use by virtue of us being humans on this planet. No one "owns" the oil or the water or the trees in the forests. Not legitimately. Those things are provided by the planet and are equally available or equally belong to all of us plus all the other beings on the planet.
These companies have become so huge by taking our collective resources for themselves. Once those resources are gone, their system no longer functions. It's only by getting essentially free raw materials that they are able to monetize and sell back to us that they managed to grow so big. If you factor in the value of resources they are taking for free, they would no longer BE profitable, at least not to the extent they are.
Once they run out of free material, and that day is not far off, they will no longer be able to be operate profitably. And while I can almost accept the argument that their ability to recover oil from underground gives them rights to it (not really, but they are investing money to recover it), I can't for the life of me understand why anyone, anywhere would ever consider privatizing water. It requires no expensive machinery to access, and unlike fossil fuels, it is 100% essential for life on this planet. It's insanity of the highest order.
Although I don't agree with continuing to use fossil fuels, I do remember hearing about countries who divided up the profits among all the citizens, since those resources technically belong to everyone in that country.
The entire thing is a scam and a theft, and the banking industry on top of it just compounds the thievery.
They have every incentive to take it all now.
And that's what is so dangerous for the planet.
There is no disincentive for capitalists to "conserve." If they conserve, they lose out on profits. Obviously. All of the incentives push them toward raping and pillaging of natural resources, along with those incentives, baked in, which deny even remotely fair wages for workers, fair trade between unequal partners, etc. etc.
Capitalism is inherently immoral, from the ground up. It's based on slavery, though it has much, much better PR. Capitalists were also very smart in broadening the reach of who gets to consume its products, thus co-opting large groups of humans and making them dependent upon capitalists.
It killed small, direct producers, family farms and the like, thus forcing the formerly self-employed into the factories to make others rich. And it made pretty much everyone dependent upon its products, because so few people made their own after capitalism all but destroyed the concept of self-provisioning.
The other thing that provides the illusion of "success" is this: It's never even tried to allocate resources effectively to the masses. As long as it concentrates wealth at the top, gives some crumbs to the professional and managerial classes, organized opposition is virtually stopped in its tracks. If it had to allocate resources to everyone, it couldn't possibly do so and still be "capitalist."
IOW, the threshold for determining its "success" is very low to begin with. It doesn't have to be remotely effective for anyone but those at the top, and all too many still see it as "successful." Perhaps because they aspire to the top, and are willing to ignore the "bottom" 80% and their plight.
There is in me an anarchy and frightful disorder. Creating makes me die a thousand deaths, because it means making order, and my entire being rebels against order. But without it I would die, scattered to the winds.
-- Albert Camus
I am a landowner in a capitalist system.
20+ acres mature forest. I pay to own it. I am the caretaker of my trees, that make O2 and a hillside that recharges waters below. I know letting forest "go primeval" is not be best use of land or energy. And several tree-killing epidemics are on me.
To keep the health of my forest (accumulating Carbon, releasing O2 in summer) I should remove some elderly or misshapen trees that limit sunlight for new ones. I have had a timber Co rep walk the property, mark trees for harvest. He marked something like 80, all over 20 A, requiring heavy equipment to access them all. My payout would be IIRC, $5000. No deal. F-n roads, not paved, just washout potential.
I believe I am an anti-Capitalist now. I won't destroy even temporarily (which would be the rest of my life) my surroundings. I told the frackers to shove it, too. Legal Town ban has held through 3 lawsuits. My water comes from a well on-site. I have what I hope is not privileged reasons to be steward. Except I pay taxes, so it's mine.
Hey! my dear friends or soon-to-be's, JtC could use the donations to keep this site functioning for those of us who can still see the life preserver or flotsam in the water.
I'm a landowner, too
Of a measly 3/4 acre, but still a landowner.
Until we do away with the idea of owning land, I think its good to have landowners who want to protect the land they "own."
That is the best we can do under the current system.
People forget, or were not taught, that the concept
of private ownership of land came to the western hemisphere with the Euros. There were societies that featured the private ownership of real property but they were in the minority. We think it's the natural unalterable order of things but it's not so.
"The second greatest cause of death is the acquiring of property"....Gregory Corso
My wife and I owned nine acres on the eastern continental divide and we wouldn't allow it to be logged. Nice Appalachian cove hardwood forest and 12 springs but we liked it the way it was and it was nice to live there. Our 2 acres where we live now has beeches, oaks, and hickories - many over 100 feet tall - that we won't cut. Like you say: It's the best we can do.
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
in these parts, there's at least one guy who does
"horse-logging". might want to look around for some such in your area.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Neolib meritocracy: “American Dream seems to be alive and well”?
Millionaires chalk success up to hard work and family values
Most high net worth Americans say they worked their way up from a lower class
Interesting
Does anyone still believe that to be true? Then why does the United States have the greatest income inequality in the developed world?
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
no way, it's baloney, the "work hard" meme
is their smartwass way of enslaving their workers and make them hope they can get places if they just believe in it. Those times are over.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Good Morning, gg, your series is a gift, I hope it gets
a special place on the right hand side column somehow. I like to find it with one click.
I became more aware of what Bill Clinton's deregulation of the airwaves with the Telecommunication Act of 1996 has done to today's news providers. We get all the news that fit their advertisement models, so you get all the news that you don't need and aren't any like 4 minutes of weather telling you how many degrees and how many snow flakes they measured in what kind of geographic regions.
Really appreciate your series a lot. But it's hard for me to write something comprehensible about it. I am in reading and listening mode and what I learn I can't translate it into written words of my own. I am sorry.
Have a good day, I am off to the third day of the "Breaking through Power" conference. You won't hear a word about it. Their efforts will be ignored, on purpose.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Mimi
First, thank you for your kind words.
I hope you will find the time to write about the Breaking Through Power conference. I think it is something that we all would benefit from.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
It's hard for me to write about, as there are no transcripts
and there are so many speakers. I am curious to see how The Real News Network is handling their own material later on. I wished they would post separate video clips for all the speakers.
https://www.euronews.com/live
My comments from the Evening Blues
Hey gg, another great essay. Another factor during Billary's reign was the advent of the home computer. I think we bought three computers during the 90's as the technology improved....so did all schools, businesses, and so on. Good timing on his part. As you quite adequately document he was not working for the people!
Nader's meeting is online at therealnews.com. I did take notes yesterday during the meeting. I posted them in the "Blues" last night but here they are again:
Here's what I heard today at Naders meeting. My take is that we have a window before they shape what we access on the internet. Hope this isn't too much to put in a comment in the blues? If any c99ers are interested, it is at therealnews.com Tomorrow is focused on peace/war. I'll miss it, I'm off to the Florida Folk Festival.
Breaking Through Media
Leading authors, documentary filmmakers, journalists, cartoonists, new media content producers and other creative advocates will gather to discuss tactics to reform our communications landscape, and open the airwaves and internet up to serious and compelling content. Together we will launch a new organization – “Voices” – a full-spectrum advocacy group to champion an open, democratic communication commons.
Media for a Democracy
John Nichols - Journalist, suggested giving everyone a $200 tax credit to invest in any nonprofit media outlet they wanted.
Corporate Control of the Media and Broadband
Jeff Chester - Center for Digital Democracy
Jeff Cohen - Park Center for Independent Media
Fewer media outlets has resulted in lower voter turn out.
The number of independent outlets online is the hope.
Better work on helping them flourish while we can.
Corporate control of social media is global like google and facebook. Net neutrality is a myth - they have teamed up with the ISP's to collect data, create an ID management files, and then auction your profile in order to target you with specific advertising. We are inventory. It is hyper commercial. It's working across platforms.
Take back the spectrum for the public. Break up big media.
Phil Donahoe I can appreciate that he has done good work, but it always seemed to me he went for the sensational (sex, shock, and awe) rather than the substantive.
His thoughts:
Real conversations are compelling. Gay folk on his early shows were vilified. Now they have corporate sponsors.
Examples of his work included JFK mistress who also slept with mafia types, Nader questioning an oil exec, and Bill Clinton dominating an interview with Phil.
How far should journalists push and how much does the public want to know are the operative questions according to Phil.
Patty Smith sang a few making the point that songs and poems speak to people. She was involved with the Iraq war protests that gathered 150,000 people in DC. When people clapped she said there were a million in Paris and several hundred thousand in London. CNN ignored the march. Each person is a thorn...get busy poking.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPR-HyGj2d0]
Mark Green from Both sides now...it is the producer that decides the stories that play. We need another fairness doctrine.
Jim ? From Extra must have been a sub. He did a great job talking about public media...a corporation appt by the pres. A tax subsidy used like a club. Where underwriters are advertisers. There's a nightly business news but no nightly labor news or environmental news. Public broadcasting is for sale. 85% of the board members are from corporate backgrounds. PBS is a decoy media. We should really try public media.
Laura Flanders ( show) We don't hear good progressive stories. Around the world there is a progressive movement. Support media that supports you.
Eugene Jurecki film maker. The US was broken from the start. It has always been a work in progress. The arc is toward justice. The town squares is now a digital platform which has the danger of centralized power. We need a digital Magna Carta. Democracy is being fracked.
Mickey Huff project censored
Science has been captured by big pharma, ag and oil. We have junk food news. We need to be the media. No matter what your issue (climate, war, poverty, racism,...) media is your 2nd issue.
Matt Woerker, political cartoonist: Don't forget Mr. Humor. Comedy is a funny way to be serious. We have a brave new world of short attention span, and people use little screens are are visual. Over 40,000 journalist have lost their job in the last decade.
Jim Hightower there are 120 alternate weeklies, Free speech TV, and many youtube journalists that should use social media to connect and coordinate
Jeff (same info from AM) plus http://www.freepress.net/
Intrusions of the Mass Surveilance State
Kirk Wiebe and William Binney
Kirk and Wm are whistleblowers. Their story is found at: http://agoodamerican.org/
They suggest gov't moles are planted in media. I guess like Hillary moles?
Ralph concludes with his concept of a people or audience network he's calling voices. Sounds like a story corp project based on journalism?
“Best stories you never hear”
Lori Wallach on Trade
Robert Peck on Torts
Phyllis Bennis on Empire
Kathy Ozer on Plight of Family Farmer
Janine Jackson on Mass Media criticism
Rena Steinzor on Wall Street’s Crimes
Peter Davis on Minimum Wage
Stephen Cohen on Russia
Ralph Nader on Contracts
So that's my dull summary.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
Wow!
What a terrific summary! Thank you for sharing on the morning Open Thread.
This!
Back in my youth, I attended it once and it was great fun. Have a great time!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Any c99ers going?
I play with Lloyd Baldwin and friends. Come by and say Hi if you're at the festival.
“Until justice rolls down like water and righteousness like a mighty stream.”
I am in NC now
I hope you have a wonderful time playing!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thanks for the Rundown
That sounds like a lovely conference. thanks for sharing it with us!
good idea mimi...
totally agree. especially for those of us who might have been away for a while, it's a nice feature.
“There are moments which are not calculable, and cannot be assessed in words; they live on in the solution of memory… ”
― Lawrence Durrell, "Justine"
If you wish
I can add links to the first five parts here.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Morning gg and all :=) Great summary of the Clinton years and
why Clinton making Bill economic czar is so terrible.
I agree with mimi. This series is very valuable and c99ers should be able to access the posts easily.
It is a great resource to help folks who don't know economics, but know that things have gone terribly wrong. It helps counter the prevailing right-wing ideology; here we can learn WHY thing are so wrong and why Bernie's democratic socialism is the solution to our social problems.
It would be great if JtC could pin it to the right-side column. And please continue as long as you wish. Like you said, gg, neoliberalism is responsible for so very many of our social ills, there's so much to tell and learn.
Enjoy your day, my friend,
Resilience: practical action to improve things we can control.
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Thank you, Gerrit!
You are always so kind and generous with your comments. Have a great day too, my friend.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Maybe it shouldn't surprise me,
but it does at least a bit that Hillary is now promoting her husband as part of the deal. She says it's a done deal, but she has to be worried, and not confident, to be adding Bill into the mix and reciting his qualifications. Is she hoping that since people won't vote for her, maybe they will vote for her husband? I didn't think I could respect her less, but turns out I could and now do.
I looked up his favorable polling and he is 45 favorable, and 35 unfavorable according to one recent poll. Quite a bit better than hers although not that good, and I understand his faves are dropping. She must hope he can drag her over the finish line.
CBS/NYT poll, 5/13-17/16 RegVoters.
I think Bill's numbers are based on amnesia of then
Now he looks off-color, and has a gape that seems ominous. Not quite so sharp.
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I saw yesterday a video clip of how Phil Donahue was
once ripped in pieces by Bill Clinton in an interview he had with him. The way Bill Clinton handled him made me aware of how similar Hillary Clinton is to her husband in the way she handles criticism when she gets angry and has to defend herself.
No way I would want to see this couple any longer in power. They are strong but use their strength for wrong goals. Too bad.
https://www.euronews.com/live
Hubris
The Clintons are entitled and self serving. They truly believe that they are better and more deserving than the rest of us. The psychology behind the neo-liberal ideology is very interesting. These people have no real empathy for those outside their own class.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
It's because they really do
believe they know better. It's the entitlement that comes from being part of the meritocracy, and the insecurity from not really belonging to the aristocracy.
On another subject, I have noticed some people leaving TOP annoyed to find they could not cancel their account. It's not apparent, but if the email address provided by the user in setting up the account is deleted, the software will take care of the rest. Call it an undocumented feature.
That got me thinking:
I am still crippled TU OT. Can I cahnge my email to a throwawy account? I have several, with notes on passwords. Or will They remember my functional addy?
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Don't know
I deleted my email account, saved settings while blank, and logged out thereby violating the requirement for an email account to be a registered user so my account was no longer available to log into. I don't know if changing the email triggers an automatic email to the new account, but that's likely.
I did that now!
I was still NR. haha.
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Thank you for another lesson, gulfgal,
and for the Open Thread. Hope you are having a good morning in spite of today's subject matter.
And, good morning to everybody!
Crazy weather here. Sunny days, then out of nowhere, and not in the forecast, an hour long hail storm yesterday in the middle of the afternoon. Size of marbles. Quite a racket.
Thank you, O'Linda!
I am learning a lot myself from the research. It is difficult to keep these essays at a reasonable length. Today's could have been broken up into five distinct essays with a lot more fleshing out. The material is out there. I have to thank Thomas Frank who knows how to articulate this stuff in layman's terms so beautifully. If I do not understand something, I look for his writing to clarify it for me.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Good morning gg and all you beautiful 99%ers,
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Good morning, kharma!
Have a great day!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
You too gg
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
ah the great Bill O Clinton
couldn't agree more, gg.
I wrote a piece in 2008 at TOP titled Bill Clinton? He was ALWAYS a Republican Here are a few more goodies to add to his, um, legacy:
strong-arming 3rd world countries
arms deals
and i can't find where I read it, but Clinton was also ramped up privatizing the military (which one could extrapolate from the arems deals stories)
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― Lawrence Durrell, "Justine"
Thank you, peef!
You never know when one of your links might show up in a future essay. I always appreciated people sharing links and other information to help us all better understand what we are up against.
Bill Clinton was the first purely neo-liberal President and the Democratic party is wholly owned by the Clintons. That is why we see so few national politicians straying away from Hillary and Bill.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Clinton Neoliberalism
Great job, gulfgal98! This essay needs to be published everywhere, especially in the lame-stream and social media channels. Voters have amnesia concerning Bill and Hill's policies in the nineties. Millennials are mostly ignorant about them. The media has been under their sway of "coolness" and "hipness" and was derelict in their duty to tell the truth about Clinton policies and corruption. They're still held in their sway. The harm done endures and will surely metastasize should the Clintons take over again. Political corruption is the number one complaint voters living in highly unequal countries voice over and over again. If those two get hold of power again, I despair that we, let alone the planet, will survive. They made a deal with the devil long ago, and their evil is in not caring while pretending to care in public and promote themselves as the lesser evil.
Thank you Writerinres!
Excellent comment and I agree completely!
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Known by the company they keep.
Kissinger, Bush family, Trump, that sexualizing billionaire, Crooks, murderers, liars all. But they hang out in that crowd.
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Add Marc Rich to your list please
"The justness of individual land right is not justifiable to those to whom the land by right of first claim collectively belonged"
Excellent essay. Surprised Frank got this part wrong:
.
When he says the EITC is a traditionally Democratic thing, he's forgetting that it was Reagan's idea, and the essence of neoliberalism. Get taxpayers to supplement terrible wages paid in the private sector. Make it even easier for greedy, rich assholes to shaft the working poor, externalizing even more business costs, etc. etc. It was a dream come true for business interests. What should have been the Democratic Party response was to force businesses to pay a living wage, so no additional supplement was needed. And even the slight increase in the minimum was Republican Lite. It wasn't enough to keep up with inflation, much less productivity gains.
And I say the above as someone who really respects Thomas Frank. He's been fighting the good fight for a long, long time. He's got the guts, unlike all too many "liberals," to speak out against his own side when it's warranted. He's not a tribalist, etc. etc.
Anyway, thank you for the essay. Keep 'em coming!
There is in me an anarchy and frightful disorder. Creating makes me die a thousand deaths, because it means making order, and my entire being rebels against order. But without it I would die, scattered to the winds.
-- Albert Camus
Excellent comment--echos my sentiments, Diomedes! The
EITC was greatly expanded under Reagan, but it was enacted during the Ford Administration.
According to the Center On Budget And Policy Priorities,
(Robert Barro is a conservative macroeconomist, and father of journalist Josh Barro.)
Anyhoo, thanks for your comments, and for making the point that the EITC is not an acceptable substitute for a living wage.
Thank you for this excellent series!
Mollie
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Neoliberalism is the issue ...
I remember trying to explain Sectoral Balance to people who touted Bill's supposed budget balancing in the last year of his term. Yves linked an article this morning saying, "sectoral balances is going mainstream." It's about time. Here's the link: http://theweek.com/articles/625515/hillary-clinton-loves-trumpet-bills-budget-surplus-shouldnt
We wanted decent healthcare, a living wage and free college.
The Democrats gave us Biden and war instead.
In a nut shell: Running a
In a nut shell: Running a public sector surplus while running a foreign trade deficit looks like this:
Public Sector +1 = (Domestic Private Sector -2) - (Foreign Trade +1)
Where the domestic private sector not involved in conducting foreign trade must go into deficit (private bank debt) to fund both the public sector surplus and foreign trade deficit.
That's what Clintons' economy was all about.
James Galbraith was run out of Washington for testifying to Congress what the results of Bills' "great plans" would be, ie, a recession, which Bush inherited.
Here's Galbraith:
http://www.thenation.com/article/defense-deficits/
Excellent article
Thank you for sharing it with us. Economics is not something I completely understand so I rely on others to fill me in. But a fool can rush in with her own (my) simplistic take on this. Please correct me if I am wrong.
My own analogy would be that in order for a society to remain healthy, it must be willing to invest and reinvest in itself. Austerity cuts off that reinvestment and causes the society to wither away.
I would also point out that the majority of the national debt is money that the US govt owes is owed to ourselves with the biggest single chunk being held by the Social Security Trust Fund.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
To me, it's even more simple than thinking in terms of...
"investing", which is a business term, where we think there must be a monetary return on that investment.
More simply, a monetary economy needs money. No money, no monetary economy.
The national "debt" isn't like a household or business debt because households and businesses must earn government created dollars to pay off their private bank debt, while the government just issues the dollars we use, and never needs to pay off its' debts, ie, it can just roll them over indefinitely, because it just creates dollars out of thin air.
When we were on the gold standard, treasury bonds were issued against our gold holdings, now they're not. Now they're optional, and are just savings accounts at our Central Bank. Even China has a savings account at our Central Bank, where they put the dollars they've earned by selling us stuff.
We could stop issuing T Bonds today and still create dollars if we wanted to. It would just take a few revisions to our laws regulating how dollars are created.
Here's more on this:
http://bilbo.economicoutlook.net/blog/?p=31715
I really enjoy your monetary remarks
…and economic take.
Thanks and please carry on.
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Thank you for this great comment!
I believe that some of this small "gains" were simply crumbs to distract the masses.
You have really gotten to the heart of it all with the lack of a living wage in this country. Add to that, the ability of businesses to get around providing any benefits by keeping workers part time or contractual and by keeping hours irregular. It is the business model here in the US.
Thank you for your comment. Feel free to add more.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Outstanding summary
But everybody missed one of Uncle Bill's biggest boondoggles. To be fair, because that's just the way I roll, I can't say for sure that we can lay all the blame on him. It was passed on his watch though and he signed it.
"It" is the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993. OBRA '93 is a huge and confusing budget bill that also goes by the nickname of Deficit Reduction Act. Buried waaaaayyy down near the bottom were some changes to Medicaid that weren't controversial then. In fact they even made sense to most people... or they would have if most people had read them.
Basically, it gave states a couple of tools to offset the massive amounts they spent on Medicaid. These tools are collectively called MER - Medicaid Estate Recovery. MER obligates a state's AG to file a lien against the estate of any person who received Medicaid when they were between the ages of 55 and 64. Yes, that does sound like age discrimination doesn't it? It also turns Medicaid into a loan program rather than health insurance coverage.
That obligation only applied to extended care in a nursing home however. This was NBD and even the people it was aimed at considered it fair. Back then you could own a house and still be eligible for Medicaid, although you couldn't own much else. And there were prohibitions to protect the survivors. The state couldn't take the house as long as a spouse or child occupied it.
Part two, however, gave states the option of filing these liens against the property of anyone between the ages of 55 and 64 for routine use of medical care - doctor visits, prescriptions, etc.
As I said, this thing is huge, confusing, and the option part of it was left up to the individual states. Most didn't bother. Medicaid had an asset test to qualify and many people ages 55-64 didn't have any estate worth grabbing. So most everybody focused on the nursing home obligation and called it a day.
Enter the ACA and Medicaid expansion. Under the expansion, the asset test went away. It no longer mattered how much you owned, all that mattered was your Modified Adjusted Gross Income, which used a formula almost identical to what the IRS uses.
This meant that it was possible for people to have assets into the hundreds of thousands, but still be eligible for Medicaid. It didn't matter if you had a large amount of savings, annuities, flashy cars, a $365,000 house, whatever. If you earned less than 138% of the poverty level, you can get on Medicaid. In fact if you went to the exchanges you were told to apply for Medicaid.
Okay, well, if you were too embarrassed to go on a "welfare" program, you could always say screw it and take the penalty for not having "health care coverage."
But let's say you were in my position and already received some sort of assistance. You didn't have to apply for Medicaid. You didn't have to do anything. You were automatically enrolled and never even saw an application. Great eh? Yeverybody gots health coverage!
One little problem though. Remember those obligations and options from OBRA '93? Nobody remembered to repeal those.
So now, with no asset test and auto enrollment at record highs, we have millions of 55 to 64 year olds being pushed into a program that can legally seize everything they own when they die. And all they have to do is go to a doctor. In fact, with the language being the very vague "any correctly paid amounts," in many states they could theoretically bill your estate for the premiums they paid to the ACA's insurance carriers whether you ever use the Medicaid loan or not.
Worse yet, a lot of them aren't even aware of this despite the law that they be told about it during the application process. Perhaps they're like me and there was no application process, or perhaps their caseworker didn't understand the law.
I finally got a hold of Ohio's application. Nowhere on it is there any mention of Medicaid Estate Recovery. Maybe they bring it up after you're approved and enrolled... as in after it's too late.
This thing was laying coiled up and silent for a very long time, and only now has it become venomous. Yet still there are very few people talking about it, and apparently fewer yet understand it. When I learned about it on TOP last fall, it took me the better part of the winter to learn the rules in Ohio. Even then numerous people told me "oh that only applies to nursing homes." It doesn't. It applies to "any correctly paid costs." Does that include premiums paid to the carrier? Beats me.
Somehow OOPS doesn't quite cover this, and I wonder if this was yet another item passed long ago that everybody would forget about until the time was right.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
I tried to unwind that one, as well.
Naturally, it was age discrimination against those most vulnerable — those most at risk for diseases of aging in the years just prior to MediCare. Those most like to have their only life savings in their home. No other age group was subject to asset seizure for general health care services through Medicaid.
(I do believe that those on Medicare, who are placed in Medicaid-funded nursing homes are still subject to asset seizure by Medicaid.)
I got derailed in the research when I discovered that each state treated this differently. People who lived it states that funneled their Medicaid money to for-profit insurers fared the worst. Those states paid insurers a monthly premium for each Medicaid patient, and the insurers took care of the rest. Thus, the states could instantly calculate total costs per year for each Medicaid patient. This makes it clear that the age discrimination came about because those 55 to 64 were charged higher premiums, across the board, and they all cost about the amount. That made them a target. The state was then recapturing Medicaid funds that the Federal Government had already given them to cover the costs of Medicaid patients. It's not clear where this recaptured money went after that, because the patients costs had already been paid, largely by Federal monies.
In states that managed their own Medicaid health care services, there are no premiums and costs for each patient are spread across all services and overhead. In those states, Medicaid recapture was unlikely until the nursing home years, when it became third party managed care.
Onward, I guess.
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That's correct
Yes they are subject to it. And this means people like me, who get dinky SS checks, have little choice but to take Medicaid as their Part B Medicare coverage or simply go without. I chose the latter.
And yes, they are discriminating against the most vulnerable. 55 to 64, this is the group most likely to be let go by the corporation's downsizing measures and be unable to find another job.
This really steamed my clams when I found out about it a year and a half after I was auto-enrolled. My "costs correctly paid" only amounts to $1200, but I never did find out if they go after smaller amounts or not. I don't know if I even want to try and find out what happens to the cash the Feds give the states for taking the expansion. I mean, if the Federal Government fully funds the expansion for the first year (or is it two?) then why would they need to file a lien against someone's estate if they were only on it for a year and a half?
It wasn't until after I got a new pair of glasses that I came across this subject over at TOP. Then I began trying to find out what my state's procedures were. I first learned about MER at the beginning of October and it took hours on the phone, online, and sending emails before I got a definitive answer at the end of January. Even my state Congress Critter had no idea - I don't believe he'd ever heard of MER.
Then it was a scramble to get myself UN-auto-enrolled in the Part B coverage, which would have taken effect in March. So all I have is part A, which is just fine with me until this country can get the kind of health care civilized countries have.
I'm just thankful I'm healthy.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Excellent comment, PD! Well, "I'll lay the blame on
WJC."
There is plenty of evidence that he very deliberately, or intentionally provided the states with additional tools, so that they could greatly expand the reach of MERP.
And, ironically, some of the most expansive MERPs are in so-called 'progressive' states. There is quite a high degree of variation; another unfair aspect of this program.
Some time during the GE, I plan to post WJC's (1990's) Georgetown University speech about 'welfare' reform [which he gave as a candidate]. I just stumbled onto it a couple months ago. It is staggering just how 'open' WJC was about his desire to upend the social safety net for low income Americans.
Totally agree. It's also very much 'class' discrimination, in that it infers that 'the poors' are not fully deserving of health care services--only a 'loan' to obtain said services.
Hey, got a tad more to add on this topic when we return. Again, thanks--MERP is one of my favorite topics.
Mollie
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We need to talk!
Seriously, this thing hit me in the face just last October and trying to get a straight answer was like pulling hen's teeth.
I was told it only pertained to nursing home care. I was told MAGI people were exempt. I was told the higher ups were drafting a decision. Most of the few articles I could find were two years old. It had me so frazzled and pissed off I could hardly sleep.
As I explained to the gal in my state rep's office, I've had loans before and they all had several things in common. For one, both the lender and the borrower were fully aware of their roles and attest to same by their signature on a very detailed contract.
There's another term for what they're pulling with this expansion thing - fraud.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
If Barry Goldwater married a Southern Democrat
…you'd have the Clinton's.
IMAGINE if you woke up the day after a US Presidential Election and headlines around the the world blared, "The Majority of Americans Refused to Vote in US Presidential Election! What Does this Mean?"
This subject is worth an essay
of its own. It is another case of penalizing people for being poor.
Thank you for sharing this.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Well that's been the plan
since mid-winter. I have a folder on here that contains articles I found, as well as my personal correspondence with... well everybody, and all the steps I had to take to extricate myself before it went any farther.
But, as Pluto's Republic pointed out, trying to unravel this thing enough to explain it isn't for the faint of heart. You can't be comprehensive because each state is different. Some states have reversed their practices since taking the expansion - Kasich's Ohio isn't one of them of course - but others are continuing bidness as usual. Betcha can't guess which ones they are.
There actually was a "guidance" letter sent out by CMS, but hell if I know what it says. I think it says "wing it."
Since this is affecting millions of people, I'd like to see it addressed at the campaign level, but who would do that? Trump? Or the woman whose husband signed this turd into law?
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
For Instance
Here is an article that attempts to explain the guidance letter sent out by the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons - For thou art crunchy and good with ketchup
Snowden gets vindicated
Proper channels don't work
The Drake story is enlightening and depressing
I watched a documentary on the whole story, and how he tried to do the right thing, and ended up being raided by the FBI.
I think it was United States of Secrets:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/united-states-of-secrets/
Although I'm not positive that's the one I'm thinking of, I remember it was a good Frontline investigation either way.
More and more govt insiders
seem to be fed up with a system that has gone wrong in so many ways. Drake is a real hero and he was the inspiration for Snowden. People like Drake and Snowden have empowered other whistleblowers and I believe we will see more and more of them come forward.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
So, Marvel Decided to make Captain America a Nazi...
http://time.com/4347224/captain-america-hydra-agent-marvel-tom-brevoort/
Yep. They've decided to turn a New Deal Democrat into a Nazi because reasons.
Apparently they wanted a stand in for Trump, and they decided that Captain America is the perfect one. Never mind that this completely flies in the face of 75 YEARS of continuity. Never mind that Cap was NEVER a jingoistic anti immigrant slimeball. Apparently according to the new corporate spin, he's always been evil.
And right before Memorial Day too.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Well, maybe they are thinking Captain America represents
America itself in some way, perhaps? Hasn't America gone from a New Deal country to a jingoistic anti-immigrant slimeball collectively?
I don't mind their reasons in that article. In other words, it seems that making people see that rhetoric from an outside perspective may make them realize just how horrific it is - that's kind of a good thing.
But I'm not a comics connoisseur, so maybe I don't really understand the affront.
Cap has always represented the BEST of America.
First off... Elephant in the Room. He was created by two Jewish artists. Joe Simon and Jack Kirby. Specifically to Punch Hitler and Nazis in the Face.
Cap has been fighting against oppression his entire Career, including OFTEN standing up against the American Government and Political Parties when they've made awful choices. He's been on the side of the Hippy, the Protestor and the Average Working person his entire run. (With ONE embarrassing deviation that was so bad Marvel made an Alternate Cap in order to ret-con it away.)
Essentially, Marvel is saying that 75 years of continuity doesn't matter, and that Cap should be a Nazi, because they really DON'T GET THE CHARACTER. (The Movies, Ironically, DO.)
There's many, MANY other characters in the Marvel universe that already have the anti-immigrant rhetoric. This seems tailor made for an X-Men run. (Of course, Marvel has also been phasing out X-men because they don't own the movie rights.) This is honestly, just a character assassination of a Beloved Character in order to gin up some controversy and make people angry.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
So it would be like saying Gandalf was supporting Mordor?
and not only that, he was always a double agent?
I guess I can get that.
I was just looking at it as a stand alone story - which isn't bad and is topical, but I can totally see how taking a beloved character that represents justice and turning them into secretly evil all along would be devastating.
Exactly.
Course, many people stopped reading Captain America years ago, when they repeatedly killed him off.
Marvel has always seemed to have been uncomfortable with that hero, and when they did their "Ultimates" reboot, they turned him into a jingoistic asshole. (Marvel always seems to want their heroes to be "shades of grey" and a hero like Cap, who is the 20th century equivalent of a Knight in Shining Armor, (Complete with Shield) seems to give their "edgy" writers hives.)
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Nope--Cap in the movies is the patriotic good soldier who
gets put into stasis in, I think 1943 or 44 and wakes up now-ish. Around 2010. He starts off (in the movies) as the patriotic good soldier--literally, the guy who throws himself on a grenade to save his fellows--who wants to go to war to protect his country. He starts to understand that his country has been corrupted.
By the time of Captain America: Winter Soldier that critique is sharpened to the point that Cap is literally fighting against the American security state, its mass surveillance, its tendency to define all dissent and all potential dissent as an "enemy" that must be destroyed. By the time of Captain America: Civil War, he is literally pursued by the government as a criminal, though for other reasons (that movie requires more analysis than I want to go into here, but suffice to say, Cap as understood by most people right now is NOT a simple representation of American political and military power).
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
I stand corrected. I am pretty ignorant regarding comics
in general, beyond seeing a few made into movies by Hollywood.
I haven't seen the Captain America movies (maybe I saw the first one?) so wasn't really aware of the backstory.
Here I am--sorry it took me so long--
got sidetracked/distracted by the Guccifer thing on twitter!
I think they did this because Cap has become a metaphorical focus and symbol for patriotic criticism of the system--since the new movies. LOTS of people around, adults and kids, wearing Cap merchandise lately, and I never used to see that before the movies. Cap has become the loyal patriot who criticizes the security state. During the Avengers, he goes from being a loyal soldier to a critic. By the time of Winter Soldier, he knows who his real enemies are, and the fact that they are all over America's own security industry.
"More for Gore or the son of a drug lord--None of the above, fuck it, cut the cord."
--Zack de la Rocha
"I tell you I'll have nothing to do with the place...The roof of that hall is made of bones."
-- Fiver
Pretty much.
Never underestimate the power of a good symbol. Marvel had been trying to kill him for years, and make him more "Pliable" to being a government agent. Every time they did the fans revolted. Even freaking Liefeld tried to make Cap morally Grey, and it didn't work.
What's scary to me is that this is exactly the kind of crap corporate slime pull on anybody who challenges the stasis quo. Not even fictional heroes are immune from it.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
Quick Update: 106K tweets against this.
at time of posting. People are PISSED about this.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
First issue for a newly introduced title
BS hype for a book they are launching.
[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywkzQTGkPFg width:420 height:350]
Yeah, my daughter agrees with that...
As it is right now, she's just reading the back issues, and honestly thinks Marvel's gone off the rails with regards to their new stuff.
And TBH, if it is just a "Gimmick" to get hype, it's a stupid ass gimmick. When actual Fascists are running around, making a hero into one is just insulting.
I do not pretend I know what I do not know.
OMG the stupid... It HURTS
Just heard. An IDIOT PUNDIT proclaim that the two most popular democrats are Elizabeth Warren and Bill "I did not (technically) have sex with those foreign donors" Clinton
(Bang head on IPad)
One day I went to sleep in America... And woke up I. A bad made for TV rewrite of 1984
SIGH
Orwell was an optimist
Serious comment, but
I had to laugh.
I never thought I would see the day when I was living in a bad made for tv movie.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy
Thanks, gg. More data for the evernote clip file.
That, in its essence, is fascism--ownership of government by an individual, by a group, or by any other controlling private power. -- Franklin D. Roosevelt --
Thank you, EL!
I hope you have a nice evening.
Do I hear the sound of guillotines being constructed?
“Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." ~ President John F. Kennedy