BBB of TOP goes totally OTP!
In a thread at TOP, BBB said:
It isn't [Sanders's] ideology. Its his overloaded amount of wacko and weirdo shit he's written and done in his life.
Yes, Warren can clear a vetting. There's a few problematic items but nothing nearly as crazy as the shit Sanders has said and done.
The leftist hippy shit is fine for Vermont. Maybe Oregon. But in the rest of the country... No.
To which I responded
Hoo boy!
"His overloaded amount of wacko and weirdo shit he's written and done in his life."
and
"The leftist hippy shit "
Wow, this sounds like something RMoney would say behind closed doors.
I can’t believe you’re saying this in the open.
I guess you’re a 1%er. Good to know.
I'm looking forward to getting a nastygram. If my comment above is flagworthy, they're beyond redemption.
Thread:
http://www.dailykos.com/comments/1525601/61508791#comment_61509348
Comments
If I recall
BBB is a Wall Street worker of some sort.
That's reason enough
to dislike him. The fact he's been an unmitigated prick throughout the primary season is just more fuel for the fire.
"The real power is in the hands of small groups of people and I don't think they have titles. -- Bob Dylan"
he's been
an unmitigated, poser prick for years. that's not new.
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
And an anti-atheist BIGOT.
Our own Subir is a Wall Street worker
Plus he still posts at TOS and I follow his rec list. So I think it's great to have financial people in the movement. Some of my favourite posts are financial exposes written by insiders.
We can’t save the world by playing by the rules, because the rules have to be changed.
- Greta Thunberg
That is true.
The who wrote the Big Short was himself formerly a worker on Wall Street, and it gave him the expertise to explain what happened to the economy very well.
If you haven't read the book or watched the movie, I recommend you do. Both were quite good.
It's essentially the story of a group of people who knew that the bust in the economy, and it explains how they knew it, and a lot of craziness that really happened.
Not worth reading
Don't care what he does, where he lives, he's not worth reading.
Sorry so much of TOP is now being brought here.
Will start ignoring these essays too.
Really, not worth the time or energy to read.
Why can't people just let TOP sink into the slime it's in?
why do we need to call it the other place, for that matter?
there are lots of places. dailykos is a wreck anymore, call it what it is. i have no interest in another place. i've got the places i'm interested in, and orangewater isn't one of them.
we'd do well to start identifying ourselves as c99 members instead of former dk members.
GIANT ALL-CAPS SIG
I have to say Double X
is a pretty good beer.
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Oh...
Boston Bad Boy?
Yeah I just connected the acronym. He's one of the most annoying frontpagers on KOS. If he's attached to Wall Street that would certainly explain it.
That hippy shit he refers to is what is known as sound economics. It amazes me that these guys can look at what his happened over the last twenty years and still say Keynes is full of crap. He's obviously one of those guys.
I take it that particular poster
hasn't traveled much beyond NY. He'd be appalled by just about every major college town......... across the entire country.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
Has the People's Republic of Berkeley
deported Markos yet? If he still lives there -- maybe he moved to pricier climes and that's why he moved the offices to downtown Oakland to improve his BART commute...
Likely. n/t
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BBB lives in CA
Someplace near SanFran. His house is a major source of his wealth per him
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Are you sure? I thought he said he lives in
Gentrified Bed Sty in Bklyn ?
Orwell was an optimist
Yes, Bed Sty I believe. n/t
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I do know what "wacko" writings he is talking about
The link to them was in a diary that got banned. One of those "new people, switched to HRC" diaries with nothing but shit about Sanders.
The writings are basically what only an open-minded person or English major could appreciate for what they were. It was not literature, but it was typical of the types of writing being done at the time by the avaunt garde writers (think of people like Kerouac and Ginsburg, for the more literary types).
At TOP, I posted a part of Ginsberg's Howl to shut up one of them who was so "upset" that this kind of writing could exist. = ) Damn Faux Puritans!
Just a guess, but the "wacky" and "leftest" things probably meant living in a kibbutz. *sigh* Btw, if he is upset over "leftist" things being done, maybe BBB doesn't belong on a "progressive" site. (Although, he currently isn't on one now.)
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
Puritans
Cat damn the genuine Puritans, too!
-- Sir Thomas Overbury, "A Puritan"
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
Sir Thomas would do very well in today's
mass media...he has no problem with letting his bias color his rhetoric. = )
We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit.--Aristotle
If there is no struggle there is no progress.--Frederick Douglass
bias
Umm, what bias?
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
TOP is the perfect
spot for BBB. Matches his politics.
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I was over there today reading.
I was in TomPs diary. I don't get it. I wanted to drop him a note to come be with us. Where people were nice, exploring and having fun. Then I thought I just needed to mind my own business. I don't get it.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
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If bbb comes here
I am gone.
I want nothing to do with that person.
Who else do you want? Armando? Trix? Dhonig?
Seriously, why do you want people here who will drive the nice people away?
Am I missing something?
I believe dkmich was saying he wanted to invite TomP, not BBB
Wrong "him".
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Miss Sped, I think you misunderstood
TomP is cool, and a Berner. He'll probably vote for the Voice of Wall Street & Regime Change if Bernie doesn't get the nom, but he's good people!
BBB has his sane moments, but he's a pretentious dick much of the time. I don't want his condescending ass here either, but it's still a free internet - for now. If his soulless candidate takes the Whitehouse, probably won't be free for long!
Tom P is already here.
Has been.
Exactly, so why ask BlaBlaOligarchy about BBB?
And others like Trix, etc.
Again, I think you misunderstood. He was asking about TomP, not BBB, etc.
Edit: dkmich asked about TomP, but your response was to BlaBlaOligarchy.
Lol -not BBB or Trux
Tom is a member here. He didn't appear to be having fun in his diary.
Even as great an admin as Johnny and Joe are, I think BBB and Trix would be awful additions. If they even got in, they'd last a minute. ROF. Imagine BBB and Trix here.
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
No worries. They wouldn't have the moral fortitude to come
here and argue on a fair field.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
If BayonneBagBoy
Shows his lying, race-baiting avatar here, he will be pounded into nothingness. His level of blatant BS can never survive without the concerted protection of the entire DailyHos shill squad.
TomP is also over here. He'll move when he's ready, I suspect
It's the size of the audience, even if too many of them are snotty.
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BBB is a fundie, too.
The one TO I'm aware of him getting at TOP was for posting the idea that morality was impossible without faith in God.
Looks like Kos and Co. are allowing ever more of BBB's
underwearmask to slip off without correction these days......"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
This Christian gave him an HR for that one
I know that there are plenty of moral atheists, just as there are amoral Christians (like the tow truck driver who stranded the disabled woman after he saw her Bernie bumper sticker). Don't throw away HRs lightly either.
amoral "Christians"
I can't advocate feeding such "Christians" to lions, much as I'd like to some times (including that time!).
I have two kittehs who would maul me for mistreating perfectly good lions like that!
"US govt/military = bad. Russian govt/military = bad. Any politician wanting power = bad. Anyone wielding power = bad." --Shahryar
"All power corrupts absolutely!" -- thanatokephaloides
You say it as though those things are rare:
a moral atheist and an amoral Christian.
No offense to Christians but I think morality is a more core part of human (and animal) DNA than you give credit. Animals demonstrate acts of kindness and selfless empathy all the time. As sayeth wild hair guy:
Intuitively it is evident that creatures that value their own sort would have a higher success rate.
I'm not getting into my thoughts about whether or not he even existed but regardless, just assuming he did then: That Christ came along and advocated for humanitarian causes later doesn't make it his idea to 'do unto others' even though it was commendable and great that he did. That was a rule of nature long before he came along.
I think if you were really going to list what were the norm I would say:
moral atheist
moral Christian
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
Was that his rant about atheists?
I imagine he's not very keen on agnostics. Oh well.
Gëzuar!!
from a reasonably stable genius.
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That's funny
I'm imagining a Godless BBB. - lol
"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich."--Napoleon
Problem with that is some think all is forgiven if you only ask.
So do what you will and ask for forgiveness afterwards. Works pretty good for the morally challenged.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
When Jesus forgave someone
he had the caveat: "Go and sin no more." It wasn't a "Get out of Hell free card" -- he expected the behavioral change that's consistent with true contrition. Now people show up to church on Sundays then screw other people Mondays-Saturdays.
In the Lord's prayer, Jesus said something shocking
Remember, Jesus had been asked "how should we pray to God?" They wanted to know how to do it correctly.
1 Our Father, Who Art in Heaven
2 Glory be thy name
3 Thy Kingdom come, they will be done, on Earth as it is in heaven
4 Give us this day our daily bread
5 And forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors.
Lines 2 and 3 - Praise Him, hope that merciful and fair rules are enacted on earth
Line 4 - It is okay to ask that your basic needs be met
Line 5 - This one is the KICKER. It's essentially: "God, please FORGIVE ME to the exact same extent I am willing to FORGIVE OTHERS".
So many people chant these words and don't even realize what they are saying. The implications seem obvious to me.
If we are not willing to forgive others, we should not expect God to forgive us on judgement day.
If we are willing to forgive others, then God will be merciful to us.
Jesus wanted people to have more understanding and tolerance of others. I think of this as another form of the Golden Rule. We often get very angry at others over relatively simple misunderstandings. We should treat others the way we ourselves want to be treated. Sometimes people make mistakes. Obtaining forgiveness from someone you've accidentally hurt can be a very beautiful thing.
Just wanted to share the above ... but the teaching is complicated. Forgiving others for intentional wrongs can be very powerful, but it is very difficult. Now I'm thinking of the black Christians who chose to forgive, I'm forgetting his name, even after he came and shot many in the congregation. Those Christians are true followers of Jesus I think. Such forgiveness is very, very powerful, it can transform lives. But very few Christians that I have met understand and/or try to follow this teaching.
It is good to thank Jesus. But that's only half of the equation. I'm pretty sure that you and I are on the same page as far as this goes, Cali. Just wanted to share it because it seemed like a good place to share, not because I felt you "needed to be told". This is one of my most intimate beliefs/understandings. I didn't see what was being said in the Lord's prayer for decades; maybe others might find it interesting too?
~OaWN
Remember The Devil's complaint in Bedazzled?
He was complaining about how God cheats - "like Mussolini; I worked on him for sixty years, and just as they were abut to hang him he looked up to the sky, said, 'Scuze!' and pfttt! up he goes!"
On to Biden since 1973
BBB should himself be removed.
He has said a lot of outrageous things other people couldn't get by with. I have complained to several front pagers and found some agreement among them with my opinion.
You complained to FPers?
I would never discuss my opinions to anyone unless asked. Were you looking for back-ups at a higher power level? I would not ever do that, personally. I would not go whining to the Helpdesk, either, about intercession from above. That seems to be a popular move or suggestion OT. Got really turned off by some fake-victims invoking Markos to smite the Enemy. Snitches.
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Oh please
This happened a year or more ago. It had nothing to do with the current controversies. The comment didn't affect me nor was it in response to anything I said.
BBB made an egregiously over-the-top and vicious comment. I wrote to Kos as well as several front pagers saying I felt such writing by a front pager didn't serve the site well, especially by a front pager who has the blessing of the site. I never heard from Kos, but did hear from others. BBB was soon given a TO for another nasty comment.
I resent any implication that I am posing as a fake victim or am a snitch. This is the kind of talk that has caused me to flee TOP. Please save it for there and not infect this site with it.
I am sorry,
and some of that was snark. And the snitch word was used in that same way. I do not want anyone reporting to someone else what I do or say. Mea culpa.
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Thank you for the gracious reply
Snark meters are off and sensitivities are high.
BBB is the embodyment of the modern Democratic party.
As long as there is a demographically representative rainbow coalition of capitalist exploiters in the boardroom,and in government,screwing over the working class then they're happy.
It's meritocracy,baby.
Solidarity
As if that were what the downtrodden of the earth thirst for:
more diversity among the planet’s oppressors and exploiters.
"Stop complaining, Pablito, you were deported back to
Honduras by the first woman president! Isn't that progress?"
“If there is no justice for the people, may there be no peace for the government.”
"Look kids! Over here is a relic from the sixties,
a "hippie puncher". These were really vile people who hated peace and freedom and worst of all, flowers They would turn all red in the face and spit would be coming out of their mouths as they yelled and screamed at the long haired hippies. The funny thing is the hippie punchers were the biggest hypocrites of all. Be careful of these people kids, their minds are controlled."
BBB, Democratic Party scumbag exemplar.
This seems like the kind of guy that would've been a Republican before the Republican Party married itself to the Religious Right. Kinda reminds me of that hippy that became a yuppie, but worse.
Seriously, fuck that guy and everyone like him.
He revels in stoking racial divisions and animosity
I don't even know how to deal with that.
prog - weirdo | dog - woof
Stay away from it!
bbb is a repulsive loudmouth who gives all the "demographics" he falls into a very bad name. And there are several. Those people are sick with that potential power, sick to the point where they enjoy taunting their lessers.
Fucking mental cases. They're the worst kind. They'd stick a knife in your back while they're hugging you.
Their "lessers"
Truly the taunters and backstabbers are the lessers. They think money and power make you great. But it's heart that makes you great. They will never even realize that.
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To me,
BBB has no lessers. He's at the very bottom of the shit barrel. Of all the years I spent there he is the one FPer that I absolutely could not stand. He's a pompous, arrogant asshole who loves playing the race card when it suits him. Invariably, when he's losing an argument he will somehow pull out the old battered racism, sexist (when it comes to clinton) deck of cards. Fuck top and especially fuck the little boy-child owner. And you're right, we need to stay away from it. I won't click there anymore because all it does is put $ in the owner's bank account...oh, and the fact that going there is akin to swimming in a septic tank...
Read this over there today
on one of my occasional forays.
PsychoSavannah to Eagles92
May 11 · 07:07:38 PM
Really, really interesting…..from 2 million visitors prior to March 15 to barely 750K this week.
Data came from this
https://www.quantcast.com/dailykos.com#trafficCard
I checked it out myself.
Cool.
if all the Berners would quit clicking there we could get it down to less than 500K easily...
I simply cannot abide people who operate beyond
a certain level of unwarranted confidence in their own ill-reasoned dumbfuckery.
and BBB is way, way beyond that red line for me. he is one of those folks who thinks he is way, way, way smarter than he actually is, probably because he doesn't spend much time around people who are particularly smart. more to the point, he imagines he's way, way, way smarter than, for example, me. the immodest reality is that folks who are somewhere near 3 sigmas get used to being the smartest person in the room, and don't realize it when they're outclassed, whereas folks out near 3.5 sigmas usually end up in jobs where they're surrounded by other people in that region, and they can usually tell within 10 or 20 minutes whether they're talking to someone in that class or not. being condescended to by someone who does't realize just how far out of his league he is, well ... that's a bitter fucking pill to swallow, and i impolitely demur, because fuck him.
The earth is a multibillion-year-old sphere.
The Nazis killed millions of Jews.
On 9/11/01 a Boeing 757 (AA77) flew into the Pentagon.
AGCC is happening.
If you cannot accept these facts, I cannot fake an interest in any of your opinions.
Agent ◶◵7 — license to troll.
Management-authorized trolling appears to be a thing now. (cough Correct the Record cough)
My white librul guilty ass made me try to like him
but what, about a year ago (?) he kicked into overdrive. I don't mind people making contentious comments all of the time.
I lost any semblance of respect for him when he went on about some richie "friend" having a bar in their spa toilet room. He was impressed.
I am on my third NR for insulting someone OT. I did not use any bad words and did not call out a shill.
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I have liked him occasionally. But to defend Her Inevitableness
with one's entire arsenal while pretending not to be paid for doing so is hypocritical and nasty. I don't read him any more, I know it's going to be some dishonest screed.
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OMG, you called shill!
There's the paid-to-do and the waiting-for-pay-later types. And the middle who do both.
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I know, I think shill over there a lot! I just don't say it.
Shilling is not necessarily a bad thing, I'd shill for Bern if he'd let me, why not get paid to take positions I support anyway. But when a blog says, "Identify yourself if you're paid," which Kos does, I'd respect that. I don't think Kos enforces that any longer (getting paid himself). OTOH, I can certainly refute the arguments with facts and logic without worrying about who is paid. But I would have trouble supporting a position I don't believe in. And when people I used to think of as progressive are suddenly expressing their support of Hill, and it's usually the "we need a woman" type of thing, and some of them are even wandering into the fact-free zone and thinking if they sneer condescendingly enough we won't notice... well, not only am I unconvinced, I think they're not convinced either - thus, writing because they're getting paid.
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I am glad
to be here with all of you.
BBB is a pathetic wannabe.
Just read his 'diaries' where he throws in things like Rolex and Gucci so you know, we know, that that is the circle he runs in. His 'State of the Race' diaries read like a 6th grade literature project. A joke really. BBB is great in his own mind, that's about it.
There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties.. This...is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.--John Adams
3B probably buys his Rolex in china town
Where a "Rolex" costs about 2.99 and turns your wrist green (wink)
Orwell was an optimist
he's an ass ...
Kos is over there delivering the thursday hate.. BBB is all pleased , engaging, the flock of the blind frantically grasping out to feel another, to know its real .. haha
In the end, it is important to remember that we cannot become what we need to be, by remaining what we are...
BBB is been really poor
this primary season.
I have the feeling he would have supported Nixon.
Good post.
Not to mention
Au(H2O).
There are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know.