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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 7:56pm

Hi guys!

I am gonna be watching the debate and post comments and such on here and hope you join me.

If you are unable to watch it on TV CNN will be streaming it for free

I look forward to watching it with you all! Smile

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Submitted by magiamma on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:36pm
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unreal!

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:31pm
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they're just like her - nasty, fabricators, smug, overbearing

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:34pm
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positive Sanders diaries, but they are so god damned obnoxious it's getting harder and harder.

The same group seems to have a need to shit in any Sanders diary in the first couple of posts...

It's soooo damn annoying that Kos only enforces his edict against one side...

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:25pm
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I have a bunch of them, but that one is gonna get easier and easier. Smile

Particularly if Clinton wins the Nom. I doubt I would be able to go there, the cheer-leading and anti-free thought police will be running rampant.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:37pm
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between "Insurance Coverage" and universal healthcare are NOT the same thing....

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Submitted by thanatokephaloides on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:40pm
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....... to refuse to acknowledge the difference between "Insurance Coverage" and universal healthcare!

Bomb Diablo Bomb

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Submitted by Bob Phillips on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 12:38am
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is usually known as "the profit motive." Some of us are so damn naive we don't believe human suffering ought to be a profit center.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:39pm
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a terrible one, without any specifics...

Bernie CREAMS her non answer, crowd is very enthusiastic when he asks her, "Why can every other country do it and we can't?" "Canada has it, they ain't no communist crazy nation, they are 50 miles from me!"

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Submitted by KenInCO on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:55pm
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...I agree that healthcare planes are a terrible idea. Smile

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:27pm
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and you only get fed nuts and water... Smile

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:40pm
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I.E. A gimmie to the health insurance companies bigger than it already is...

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Submitted by Ravensword on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:42pm
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She'll do this by getting everyone to 100% coverage, a proposal that can only thrill health insurance companies.

If she wanted to improve Obamacare, she would propose throwing out the middle man.

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Submitted by Ravensword on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:41pm
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She should have a slogan that says, "Yes, I can/will. No, you can't/won't." As in, "Yes, I will be president. No, you won't get free college or single-payer healthcare."

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Submitted by Cassiodorus on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:43pm
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Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:41pm
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YES or NO question...

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:42pm
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Are you prepared to lift the cap on social security:

Says that is one way, but there are other ways, hasn't said she would implement one or not implement one.

Runs out clock talking about the history of social security, blah blah blah.

"Interesting comment, but you didn't answer the question, but essentially what you described is my legislation!"

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:42pm
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Bernie gets angry about her healthcare talk and she continues talking about Obama and affordable care act. Listen Lady, we want single payer medicare-style healthcare and nothing else. Would you please listen and shut up. Oh my, she is really getting really on my nerves. Have to get outta here.

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Submitted by Raggedy Ann on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:43pm
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he's doing well. My brother asked me why she irritates him. I said liars are irritating.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:44pm
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Redirects to social security trust fund.

Bernie, "You are finally coming out on lifting the tax on nontaxable income? Congratulations! welcome aboard!!"

Crowd goes crazy again!

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:45pm
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I can't figure if the crowd is in disagreement with her or not.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:45pm
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She calls Sanders out and redirects to insinuate that Sanders is an "Establishment crazy nutjub".

More boo's

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:45pm
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are you for lifting the cap on taxable income she says he's picking on her

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Submitted by BrutallyHonest on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:50pm
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How can she handle Trump?

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Submitted by blue drop on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 1:48am

something to the effect of "if you can't handle me how can you handle Trump IF you make it to the general election?" or "to get to Trump you have to go through me first."

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:47pm
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and they have all been at Clinton?

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Submitted by mjsmeme on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:51pm
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loud applause

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:49pm
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that supports womens rights, gets loud ovation so keeps running with it and tries to turn it into an attack on Sanders.

"I have a 100% pro choice voting record, I will take on Gov's that try to prevent women's right to choose"

"We gotta expand funding to planned parenthood"

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:51pm
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"Then why am I running for president on the democratic ticket?"

He brings up his appeal to independents, says it makes him more electeable and that he want's to open up the party to young people.

He did a great job but should have brought up that he has a better voting record of voting with the democrats than many democrats.

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Submitted by Twain Disciple on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:01pm

and I don't like her!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:53pm
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money"

Bernie tells her she is wrong and he has help raise millions and his movement will continue to do so without relying on wall street and big money, crowd chants BERNIE! BERNIE! BERNIE! (summary of what he said.)

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:53pm
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I'm reading these threads (and taking tests, so I'm not watching/listening to the TV or the livestream) and I'm thinkin' he's kicking her ass. So naturally, tomorrow's narrative will be all about how Mean Old Bernie picked on Her Ladyship (cough).

Oh, and no namecalling on her part, though!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:54pm
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I got's me a coalition...

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Submitted by Haikukitty on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:58pm
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Every time Hillary pisses me off I give what I can. She's raised a lot of money for Bernie. Wink

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:02pm
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for his stance on ending Cannabis prohibition.

Tonight he is getting $14.20. Wish I could afford more. Sad

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Submitted by Shahryar on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:55pm
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we can especially tell when she's lying (she might as well say so!) when she says "well it's true!"

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:57pm
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and stops Sanders from responding.

He admit's "We got murdered there" (the South)

Cue Fauxrage from the Clintonites at TOP in 3. 2. 1...

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:57pm
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when she says "well it's true!"

OMG, I can just hear it.

What is this woman like at cocktail parties, do ya suppose?

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Submitted by magiamma on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:58pm
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hell yeah!

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Submitted by Haikukitty on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:59pm
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Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:59pm
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YOU will, to use YOUR words... NEVER, EVER unite the Democratic party...

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Submitted by new minas on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 9:59pm
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the Brooklyn Dodgers take the pennant!!!

its a WHOLE NEW BALLGAME!!!!

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If you do not understand that being part of the "establishment" is a slur in the minds of 99% of the U.S. population then you are completely out of touch and probably are one.

Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:00pm
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She is so damn pathetic...

I hope they file charges on her ass and she has to do a perp walk over the email situation (It's rumor of course, but a buddy from my law enforcement days was insinuating that things are much more significant than the press or anyone is thinking.

Sorry, I got derailed, she just makes me that annoyed with her Doublespeak and outright B.S. insinuations.

We need to push to have at least the Dems reinstate the League of Women voters for our debates at least. They did a great, fair job...

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Submitted by lunachickie on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:00pm
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thank you fer being here, Alpha--I'm out Smile

GO BERNIE!

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Submitted by Martha Pearce-Smith on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:07pm
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she's going full 9/11.

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Submitted by Ravensword on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:12pm
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She tweeted about Bernie's "support" for gun manufacturers, while invoking the victims of Newtown or another mass shooting.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:16pm
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She really is a dispicable human being.

I am more and more convinced she is a Sociopath

When I saw this video my blood went cold... That cackle after what she said? Man, it was just soooo disturbing.

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmIRYvJQeHM]

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:14pm
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I know I couldn't post this clip at GOS, but every time someone says someone went "Full XXX" I have this scene flash through my mind... Smile

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q]

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Submitted by Ravensword on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:08pm
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Pot, meet kettle.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:09pm
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Bernie "I grew up in Brooklyn, NY the son of an immigrant" proceeds to do a great summary of the difference between him and clinton on taking money from special interests.

Gives inspiring closer, if we unite, we can achieve, healthcare, combat climate change, etc. etc. crowd is going crazy, he keeps going says "We are gonna WIN NY" crowd is chanting Bernie at an unbelievable level!

Clinton Responds in a very down tone, like she is on valium. Brings up her time as a senator, and that you voted for me before, I had your back, you had mine, brings up 9/11, multiple times, finally gets some applause for mentioning the responders.

Her crowd is very quite, you can see where she stopped for pre-designed applause breaks and there was just silence.

They were so subdued during her closings, even when she got applause it was kinda faint.

She got some cheers at the end, but it was kinda underwhelming IMO

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Submitted by Haikukitty on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:12pm
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It kills me that I can't help but feel empathy for people who so don't deserve it. I always had to fight my empathy for bush too. But don't worry, I won't lose sleep over it!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:34pm
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And you are obviously much more of a good person than I. Smile

I welcome her discomfort with a disturbing level of Schadenfreude. (Only the Germans could come up with such a great single world to describe that feeling.)

[video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCQGQ5qBQTA]

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Submitted by tapu dali on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 11:54pm
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Both E and I were "Immigrants' kids" (from Eastern Europe) too, but these days "immigrant" has a different, more sinister, and far less appealing connotation.

So we don't say that very much any more.

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Both E and I were "Immigrants' kids" (from Eastern Europe) too, but these days "immigrant" has a different, more sinister, and far less appealing connotation.

So we don't say that very much any more.

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:09pm
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against Bernie the long distance runner. Running beats talking.
All I will remember from this debate is Hilly the Bully Long Distance Talker pissing Bernie the Long Distance Runner off by throwing oily word salad on him to make him glitch and stumble.

Ok, Bernie's last statement was very good. Lots of applause.
Ok, Hillary's last statement is another very somber faily tale. A no go. Oh, CNN cut off her last statement short. What a glitch.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:10pm
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I would love to know how well everyone thinks Sanders performance was.

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Submitted by mimi on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:15pm
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Hillary's performance was so awful, that Sanders by default had the better one.

Oh, and now the start whinging about the "bad tone in this debate" and of course it's Bernie is at fault. Pathetic.

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Submitted by KenInCO on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:22pm
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I made this on poll-maker.com

Who won the NYC debate?

Bernie Sanders
Hillary Clinton

myiq

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Submitted by KenInCO on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:24pm
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Does it work for anyone else?

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:37pm
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Rate Sanders performance on a scale of 1-10.

I may have to see if I can set something like that up in advance for the next debate watchers thread. Thanks so much for sharing that with us!

Kudos to you Brother!

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Submitted by KenInCO on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:54pm
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I thought maybe you'd want to write a new post-debate essay with a poll.

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Submitted by Shahryar on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:24pm
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I voted in the thread, now to see if I can vote in the reply. So far it's 100% Bernie.

Yeah I think we can vote as often as we like. Won't change the percentage.

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Submitted by MarilynW on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 2:14am
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As a Canadian viewer, I learned here that Clinton's followers are mean and obnoxious but what would happen here if someone came forward and said they were voting for Clinton?

For me, she has some qualities, like endurance. She endured her husband for a lifetime and she endures campaigning. Other than that she lies like most politicians. Bernie is a new breed of politician who plays it straight. I think if he should win and I sure hope that he does, it will open up a new era in politics.

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Submitted by Haikukitty on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 6:51am
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Not all Clinton supporters are mean, you have to forgive us, a lot of us have Gos PTSD where we were treated obnoxiously so we are a little or a lot biased. There are undoubtedly many perfectly nice Clinton supporters and if they were willing to discuss the issues and her policies they would be welcome here like anyone else.

But they would have to be able to discuss the issues and not just pretend they don't exist.

I was a Hillary supporter before Bernie became known to me and before I really got to know more about hillary's past votes and actions.

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Submitted by Cassiodorus on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 7:25am
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Unfortunately so few of them have moral properties!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:20pm
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I think it was kinda telling that she got boo'ed so many times and he got none.

That was pretty incredible difference.

You could easily tell the excitement difference in the room. I Think Bernie kicked ass and really won the debate tonight but I will bet you Dollars to donuts that most MSM will say it was an "Equal Performance" or some variable.

I hope he keeps hammering those speech transcripts. Her unwillingness to bring them out is in itself quite damning.

Wouldn't it be great if one of the hackers that hacked her servers released them? Smile

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Submitted by Steven D on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:27pm
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And I don't believe they are connected to any network. Be more curious to see what a hack of her campaign servers and the DNC and the Super Pacs that are clearly coordinating with her campaign would show, however.

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:40pm
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the servers?

I could be mistaken, it isn't a subject I have followed with any depth.

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Submitted by Rhizomes on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:29pm
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When the applause stops for the responders, you could hear the crowd chanting "Bernie! Bernie! Bernie!" so loud that CNN had to cut the mic off and go to what sounded like a microphone taped to the inside of Wolf Blitzer's mouth to drown out the noise.

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Submitted by Christine.MI on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:49pm
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Thank you for creating this tonight and watching the entire debate! I got on late then went to watch it online (not live). Within 20 seconds my heart rate shot up because she was speaking and taking more than her share of time. Loved, loved, loved Bernie and the crowd supporting him. He won the debate from what I heard instead of saw.
Thanks again! Great job!

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:51pm
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I really enjoy doing it and hope to get better as I do more.

This is all kinda new to me to be honest. Smile

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Submitted by Alphalop on Thu, 04/14/2016 - 10:54pm
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and on those hopeful words, I will bid you folks a good night.

Today is the one day a week she doesn't have to Intern at the one hospital or Work at the other and she was kind enough to let me join you for a few. Smile

Have an excellent evening and keep feeling the BERN!!!

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Submitted by LapsedLawyer on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 2:57am
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Had other obligations in the first hour and blew off the second for the premiere of season 4 of Orphan Black, and really not motivated to watch any of the rebroadcast of the thing. So I thank you for this liveblog, as I can get a blow-by-blow/play-by-play description of the event.

(Seriously, if there are any fellow nerds out there, the season 4 premiere was fucking amazing! Hope you recorded it for later viewing!)

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Submitted by BrutallyHonest on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 9:53am
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Awesome show and you have amazing taste

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Submitted by LapsedLawyer on Sun, 04/17/2016 - 4:12am
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Mmmmmmm waffles.....

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Submitted by gulfgal98 on Fri, 04/15/2016 - 7:55am
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But I read every comment here and got a great sense of how it went. I cannot thank Alphalop and everyone else who participated in this live thread for giving folks like me a very well defined picture of what transpired last night. Alpha, you do a great job of hosting these live blogs. Good

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